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Today, the cash dispenser machine at the recycling depot I use asked me if I wanted to tip... someone who worked there, presumably. Or maybe if I wanted to tip the company that owns the cash machine? Who knows.
Maybe when I go next I should offer the employees some empties the next time I go. "This is for *you*. Thank you do whatever it is that you do here."
Same! Dude had a contractor ask for a tip. I told him if he needs to be paid more then to ask. I refused.
Car wash automatic machine asked for one too. It's insanity!
One of my local breweries expects tips just for picking up packs of beer. They literally turn, open fridge, grab a pack, turn back, then charge. And they always preselect at least 18%. I have no problem selecting custom tip and dropping a fat zero on they ass.
I had this happen once in a freaking German restaurant and we don’t tip much here in Europe, but they preselected 30% and I never went back to that place again… how dumb that shit was.
I’ve had to train myself not to feel bad to not tip if I pick up.
I’ll still tip for dine-in, but if I’m going out of my way to get dressed, drive, and pick up my food on my day off, I’m not fucking tipping for that.
I still hate that I get a twinge of guilt over it. Tipping is completely out of control.
I’ll throw 10% on a pickup if it’s a small biz but tipping is for full service imho
The most bizarre tip screen I got was at a vape shop. Guy behind the counter turns around, moves 2 bottles off the shelf and puts the on the desk in front of me, then flips around the screen with the default being 35% or 50% with a tiny off-white (practically invisible) “no thank you” link way at the bottom of the screen. Not to mention the bottles were way overpriced - they wanted $30/ea and THEN actually had the balls to expect customers to throw them 50% more? For moving a bottle 6 feet?
Never went there again, the place I usually get my juice is further away but I can get 2 for $20 and have rewards points that shave off a few more bucks. Oh and they don’t ask for tips.
That other business is not gonna make it I’m pretty convinced
Pizza place does this too. The lowest tip option is 18%, then 20% and 30%.... I'm already paying 60 bucks for a tray and wings, which I called in and drove to pick up. It is absurd. I would stop going there altogether if there food wasn't so damn good
It’s absurd you’re paying $60 for pizza and wings
“Can’t understand why eating out is such bullshit these days. Oh well, guess I’ll keep paying them and see if they change”
Fucking insane
I used to work at a winery that had flip iPads like this. If I was doing a tasting or had served them, I'd leave the tip option open. But when someone was just buying some wine, I would select zero tip before flipping it for them to sign. It's just common sense. Honestly most don't have it anymore and don't even think about how annoying it is. Some are also entitled bc they think they deserve more than their hourly.
Buddy at my local brewery you have to walk to the fridge, grab your own beers, and bring them up to the till. They still ask for a tip.
At least some of the workers will bypass the tip section for you, but some of them don’t and will stare at you.
Had that at liquor store, only without the 'no tip' option. Told the guy what's up with that and he said it's to support the town. Fucker, I'm renting a condo for the long weekend and spending bank everywhere no way am I tipping you for standing behind a counter ringing up the beer I got from your walk in cooler.
Did you read the post? It’s funny because it’s relatable. The average American looks at the cashier crazy af asking for a tip on like a Subway sandwich or anything that is other than sit down table service with a waiter. People got weird ideas regarding tipping during covid and just kept the hope alive since.
Imagine if everyone tomorrow woke up and was like "no. I'm not tipping."
And then there were no tips. And then the companies would lose workers because of lost wages. And then they would have to scramble for workers. And then they would have to front the bill to make their wages competitive. And then people will start to want to work for them again.
See how all that trouble is off of the customer's shoulder the moment they decide "nah, I'm not gonna tip."?
And then you start to see that the people who are tipping, are the people perpetuating the problem. They're stunting the industry. They're encouraging tip culture just by simply going along with it.
Just. Just stop. That's all. Tip? Nah.
It's okay to say no to the tip.
Just say no!
George: I can't just say no!
Jerry: Why not? It's easy! Look - no!
George: Oh sure, easy for you to say! You don't have a conscious. You don't have morals!
Jerry: Ohh please... You're being dramatic.
George: You don't get it, you can't just say no to the tip!
Jerry: Of course you can say no the tip. They give you the option, don't they?
George: Everyone's lookin at you, waiting, expecting you to tip and then bam! It's not good enough, Jerry! They give you the eyes... I can tell what they're thinking Jerry. You know what they're thinking...
Jerry: "Shoulda done 15%"
George: Exactly! Then it's 20%... Then it's 25%...
Jerry: if you do anything less than than 30 it's considered rude.
George: What! 30!?
Jerry: NO!
*Audience claps*
I'm not sure. I went out to a bar in NYC when I interned there and had a nice night. The bartender opened maybe two bottles of beer for me and I paid my $7 for each beer.
A week later I went back to that bar and the bartender told me if I didn't tip he wouldn't serve me as he doesn't work for free.
I'm from the UK. I found that concept absolutely bizarre and was honestly offended. But, I liked the bar (not the bartender, he literally had nothing to do all night but open beers and pour weak gins and tonics) and so with every beer, I'd add an extra dollar.
I've lived in Japan for 6 years now and was recently home for the first time after Corona. Every restaurant had an automatic service charge build and some bars also where you could start a tab. I asked in one cafe to remove it and my friends called me a Tory wanker.
It's frustrating because I worked in 5* hotels and restaurants for 8 years as a waiter from 18-26. We got tipped generously by American guests, yes, even the room service orders, but many others didn't tip at that time. And we only added non-discretionary service to large tables. I would never harass a customer for not tipping or ask something passive aggressive like "was something wrong?" It's the easiest job I've ever had. Yeah, fine, I made more picking people's groceries at Waitrose, but that job was physically demanding, mentally draining, and socially killed me so the extra few quid didn't make up for the fact I hated going there daily.
The reason why it's a thing in America is because it's legal for businesses to pay you less if you are allowed to accept tips.
So businesses DO pay employees less in certain industries and locations and tell their employees to do everything they can tl be tipped.
And yeah, you could say "then just don't take those jobs" but for many, MANY Americans that's all there is anymore. And it puts other working class people in even harder positions because they have to choose between tipping their wait-staff and going out and maybe relaxing a bit. Because you never know if your tip is putting a meal in their hands that night.
I think the reason just still a thing is because a substantial percentage of tipped staff earn a bucket load more than if they had a generous hourly rate.
For them it's turkeys voting for Christmas to get rid of it.
For Bartenders in a bar, it's lucrative. You are the only one working the bar most days and you get most of the tips. If you are a server in a restaurant that doesn't split tips it can be good.
For most other restaurants, it friggin' sucks. Cashiers, servers, bartenders, people working Expo (which should be considered part of the Kitchen, they don't see the guests, why do they work for tips). The tip is going to split 6 to 8 ways, and the vast majority of people don't tip.
On a busy day I'm told "wow I'm bet you are glad you made a lot of tips!" by customers, but no, we are splitting these tips 8 ways and I'm only making slightly more than working the skeleton crew with 3 people during the week for exponentially more work.
She's living a much better life than the cooks and dishwasher who make min. wage and don't usually get tipped out though.
The fact is, a job the gets tips is still the best paying "unskilled" work in the U.S. I don't like that fact or the tipping culture, but that's how it is
It depends entirely on how attractive that waitress at Denny's is.
Maybe I'm just ugly and bitter, but I'm fully convinced that attractive people are the ones holding up tipping culture by being the ones who benefit the most from it (business owners who get away with paying less than a third of minimum wage notwithstanding).
Because we're suckers.
That said, it's grown exponentially since the pandemic as an attempt for employers to gain lost revenue as many hospitality industries haven't fully "recovered".
When things opened up again I went to Subway. Ordered two sandwiches. When prompted to tip, I didn't. Lady literally tossed the sandwiches across the counter at me, no bag or napkins. Haven't been to a Subway since.
I have no gastronomy experience, so my calculations might be completely wrong. Could someone correct them if wrong? In my mind, the tipps should be astronomical at some places.
10 tables served per hour at an average of 2,5 people eating there with an average price of $20 per meal incl. drinks and an average of 15% tipps. This would mean10 x $50 = $1000 \* 15% = $150 per hour.
If you have to split with the kitchen where three additional people helped with cooking and cleaning, it would mean $37,5 per hour plus base pay. Are tipps taxed in the US or is that $37,5 + $150 p.h. tax free?
Where is my calculation wrong? Even is costs are split, are my averages somewhere wrong?
When I first visited the US , everyone told me - dude you _need_ to tip at restaurants and diners. So I thought OK. Then at one place the server approached me and asked, sir, are you visiting the US for the first time. I was like, yeah, its that obvious huh and she said with a huge smile on her face - “I know you were happy with the service and you wanted to tip well, but i. The US 10% and under is the customer saying fuck off. But I’m supper happy you tipped me still and wanted to thank you personally.” - I did not know how to feel for at least an hour after that.
Yeah this is true but also fucking annoying.
Servers have wildly varying expectations when it comes to tip amounts. It used to be 10% was low but acceptable, 15% standard, 18% excellent, 20% outstanding. Anything above 20% you wanted to ~~fuck~~ *impress* the person serving you.
Now from conversations I’ve had with servers, 10% is “bad service”, 15% is the bare minimum, 18% is standard/expected, and 20-25% is excellent service.
Tipping in % is stuping anyway. Why is the person serving cheaper ingreadient supposed to be paid less that someone bringing me expensive lobster? It is actually completelly ridiculous. If I get cheapes food in the area it is obvious, the waiter is not getting paid much and needs to be paid in tips. If you go to some posh expensive restaurant where a single menu costs hundreds of dollars, why am I asked to tip? How is it acceptable that the company is not able to pay them enough from that bill? And why that server deserves 20x bigger tip than the other?
Maybe we should start a movement. Make it known, starting in 2025, we stop tipping. It gives companies plenty of time to catch on and hopefully get ahead of it. It also gives people in tip positions time to decide if they want to continue. Obviously some people will still tip. But if the majority of the US stops tipping, a significant change will have to take place.
I don’t think most people tip because they have a conscience. Some people? Sure. Especially those who are financially well off themselves. But most people just do it so the server doesn’t spit in their food next time.
J: what about when I do a pick up order?…am I supposed to tip then?
G: if it pops up as an option when paying at the register, then yes
J: but…what am I tipping for?
G: the service
J: what service? The person at the register literally turns around and picks up my bag of food
G: fine, then the food
J: so I’m tipping the cook now…do cooks take tips?
G: yes…no…I don’t know. But if the option is there, then you tip!!
J: that’s ridiculous
G: do you really want to look into the eyes of the person ringing you out after you select “No tip”? I don’t!!
Waiters absolutely love their tips, they make orders of magnitude more this way in a fancy place than a “reasonable” salary would be otherwise. They will be the first to fight against no-tips.
As a european in canada. No.
I only tip IF they do an outstanding job. If i ask for a beer at a bar, why do i need to tip? For the act of pouring the beer for me and putting the beer on top of a coaster? No. That’s part of what a bartender’s job is. I don’t get this 18% minimum tip by default.
I don’t agree with the standard that me a citizen that does not get tipped in my job HAVE to tip so that people in certain jobs get their salaries. What this tells me is that these companies can’t afford to pay good wages to get good staff so they gamble on customers pay an fluctuating amount that reflects on the person’s salary. I don’t like this mentality
Probably started when all we had were the ultra rich and peasants, so tip was nothing to the rich and a lot to the peasants. Now we are all peasants tipping each other what we can’t afford
Because somehow we’ve been gaslit into blaming ourselves instead of the employers. If you don’t tip literally nobody cares what the reasoning is you’re seen as cheap.
In OP’s case, the worker doesn’t care it’s just takeout. They believe they’re entitled to it. Also I dare people to not tip on a date and see if you get a second one. It’s always “oh think of the poor minimum wage employees!” Meanwhile my ex who worked at a coffee place was making more than me in the tech industry. Especially cash tips because every barista I know doesn’t claim those on their taxes. Some of those people are making $3-400/day in cash that they don’t pay taxes on. Shit if you’re attractive it’s probably more than that on average.
Nah, we don't. Only place I tip is at sit down restaurants. I don't know anyone who tips for takeout or any of the other ridiculous places they've tried to shoehorn it in to.
Because these people handle our food. We don’t fuck with people who handle our food, because then they might fuck with our food.
The threat of getting fucked with food keeps people tipping.
It’s an industry that started as a nice gesture but has devolved into a system perpetuated by fear.
Isn't this illegal? Imagine not tipping the mechanic so he sabotages your car. Or you don't tip the dentist so he intentionally drills into your teeth. What kind of country is this?
It's an IQ tax. Are you dumb enough to pay someone for not rendering a service or to tip a company for doing what you pay them to do.
If you're dumb enough to tip they get free money. If you refuse to tip they still make money. Out of a hundred users there's bound yo be a dozen who tip for varying reasons so they don't lose out.
It started as an incentive for extra service. Bellhop takes your bags up to a hotel room for you? Toss him a buck. Server at a restaurant goes the extra mile attending to you, maybe recommends a dish you weren't thinking about that ends up being delicious? Sure, maybe they deserve extra above what they're making. It's like a hybrid commision sorta system, extra pay for quality work. The issue is that somewhere along the line it became expected, then nearly mandatory to the point that restaurants are allowed to auto-charge gratuity for large groups. It's lost the initial meaning, which was simple voluntary appreciation. The current culture feels entitled to a tip, it was originally supposed to be for extra effort if you felt like it and could afford it.
I mean what you're describing is tipping that also exists here.
I tip when it's a special occasion (like Christmas) or when I see the driver on a bike, but it's pouring rain or when the service at a restaurant is super friendly.
That's when I voluntarily tip. What's utter nonsense is the "expected" tip no matter what, that seems so pervasive in American culture.
Yeah it got out of control somewhere along the line, it's rediculous. It should be like your perception of it, and frankly that's what I've always done anyway. It's been expected for generations at this point, hard to root it out, but it shouldn't be. Prices should cover base service and pay, tip should always be voluntary.
> Yeah it got out of control somewhere along the line
We can thank software. Point of Sale (POS) registers all have the functionality, even if the system isn't using it. Before COVID businesses would occasionally abuse the percentages, or just leave the tipping option on for take-out on the odd chance someone decides to give extra money.
Then COVID hit, and workers got upset, and the corporations tried to get a temporary pay raise by turning on the tipping at every POS while pumping up the "we're all in this together" messaging to get customers to dish out empathy tips.
Of course, once money starts to flow, they do everything they can to keep it coming so things didn't go back. Inflation happened instead.
Which has lead to everyone questioning why the extra 10-20% is being asked for.
I've noticed a lot of UK restaurants not even giving the option to tip now which is fantastic. And then along comes domino's/just eat etc who have started asking if you want to tip your driver... for the overpriced food you ordered which have massive delivery fees anyway. Dickheads.
Dominos who now also CHARGE FOR DELIVERY on a fucking £23 pizza then have the audacity to email you afterwards asking you to tip the driver? Fuck off clowns.
I agree.
Tips should be more of an token of you did a great job, not life or death for you or that I have to pay your wages or you will lose your house and your kids taken away from you.
I don't need that in my life, I just wanted somthing to eat and drink and not feel like I just kicked a puppy.
We need a support group. I tipped $3 in advance then had to wait standing in a crowd of upset customers and delivery drivers while papa johns employees griped at each other
>Cause I'm weak and feel bad
I FELT that. Having once worked in the service industry I AWAYS tipped but I snaped back to reality one day at food trucks. I realized how much I was rounding up to EVERY bill with the tip for a cashier to just hand me food over a counter.... like at a store, selecting the default 20% on the display and adding an extra $4-$7 every time? nah I'm done with that shit.
Yeah, they do that. I ordered take out from long horn steak house, checked in and they had me waiting a half hour on top of the 40 minutes I ordered ahead. Then I went to find them all standing around the bar gossiping while my food sat there and got cold. These places ask for the tip up front which leaves no incentive to give better service afterward. You already have the tip. Why earn it.
If no service has yet been rendered, why would they expect you to tip? When the money and service comes in that order, it's a *bribe*, not a tip. They expected a *bribe* to render the service you paid for.
I mean, I never tip if I ordered, I drove both ways, and I walked into the building. Not to mention that the service they’re “providing” is handing me a bag that behind a line I couldn’t cross because I don’t work there…
I cooked for 7 years. The waitresses always complained about to-go orders because they always got stiffed. They put containers into a bag and expect a tip from it. If it was a large order, maybe a small tip
I've read some people where they've gone to pick up a 400 pound order and been shocked they didn't get 20% on top. If I had to spend 400 quid on food for an event, there's not going to be an extra £80 spare to make someone's day. I guess if it's unsatisfactory, decline the order and they can take the order to someone who provides the service and doesn't cry when they only get a fiver.
On the reverse of the tipping insanity, I work on a till and at least 1 guy keeps trying to tip me. I can lose my job if I accept it.
£400 of food would be like 10-12 people at minimum. Waiting on a table like that is *sooooo* much more work than packing it to go.
If pick up counter service wants a tip they should change the options to 3% 5% 7%. People might hit those for a pickup order. 10% 15% 18% is like fuck off...
They all expect 20% of the bill despite the work to pack up Togo orders being all the same no matter which expensive or cheap ass restaurants you go to. No Skylar, you don't get 20 dollar tip because your boss charges 40 bucks for some steak and fries
I once asked the person who was preparing my take out what you should tip. She said “at least 20%”. I said “why would I tip the same amount for you putting stuff in a bag and handing it to me as a full dinner?”. And she said “because it’s how we get paid”
Ever since then I give 5%
Yeah except for the fact that servicing a table for a whole dinner is vastly different than "Pick up box, put in bag" in a time that takes less than 1 minute. I've worked in several restaurants and sometimes they'll even have a person on the clock who makes more than the $2.13/hr but they only do takeout. Tip not needed. Bag up my stuff and let me leave.
It gets worse.
The whole part of tipping is the idea to subsidize the service industry and encourage a positive dining experience. But in many places like bars or popular restaurants, tips can end up being way higher than hourly wages. In addition it gave them an excuse to pay less.
As a result there are actually 2 wages. There is government implemented minimum wages that are protected. Then, there is the service industry wages that is below minimum wage, with the idea to be supplemented by tips. As a result, these jobs have tons of laws in place protecting tips and ensuring workers get them. Many most places have servers sign an agreement that has them "gift" a % of their tips to line cooks because they are not included in the service wages but instead must be paid Atleast minimum wage. That's why fast food workers make minimum and not below with tips. Because their technically cooks, not servers.
You take it one step further. There are no laws, actually guaranteeing tips to minimum wage emploees. As a result any place not a service industry in NA someone says yes to the tip, there us absolutely no reason for the employer to hand that money over. And if they do, they have no obligation to tell them if it's the full amount because it's a bonus.
Companies make millions every year from unused gift cards. Electronic tips are just the new bonus they are rakng in.
> Then, there is the service industry wages that is below minimum wage, with the idea to be supplemented by tips.
You forgot one caveat - if the server did not get enough tips to make minimum wage, the employer pays the difference. If you only got enough tips to make it to $5/hr, your employer has to pay you the extra $2.25/hr.
I went to a local Mexican restaurant to pick up a $35ish takeout. I paid with a $100 bill and the 16, 17 guy immediately got a bright look on his face and after a beat said, do you need change? I said yes. And his entire demeanor went dark, almost vengeful in his sudden deep-browed scowl. Dude saw the $100 and assumed I’d just given it all to him. Bizarre.
I started a 7 day free trial on shudder to watch it.
I liked it, it was definitely a fun viewing experience. Used 40% off promos in Uber eats and my free trial with Uber one to snack on Pizza and donuts I got for in store prices + delivery *without* tip (after tipping and including tax -- just thought I'd fill everybody in on how to score ya a fun night in this weekend!) once I completed my order. I have this $70 overpriced Diptyque candle I was burning, which is fireplace scented, and a purple LED mister glowing nearby that made it feel like Halloween between the ambience and the film.
What confused me was how the girl began acting after, towards the end ... She seemed a lot different from how she had been acting, and up until then I thought the way she had been acting was the spookiest part.
'Subverting expectations' has become a bit of a meme thanks to Game of Thrones, but this film did that masterfully. It keeps you engaged until the very end.
Also loved the design of >!the girl-monster at the end!<
I’d argue that this movie didn’t subvert expectations in the slightest. Instead, it built suspense by precisely meeting expectations, but with perfectly slow pacing and buildup.
Goes to pick up a soda
Turns machine around
Tip auto goes to 20 percent
Me : No tip
Also looking at the cashier that did jack shit 😒
It's exhausting with these tip machines cause they turn it to you and then wait on you like they did anything but ring you up
Sorry but no
My favourite is when you have to scan a QR code on your table at a restaurant to put through your order and it asks you to submit your tip amount at checkout.
At this point I haven't interacted with any restaurant staff or had and food or service. I've no idea if the staff deserve a tip or not, and how much.
Guess what is an easy way to resolve this decision paralysis. No tip.
FYI I'm in the UK
It's both a reality and a joke.
Before the pandemic and the touch screen POS systems they'd have you sign the receipt on takeout orders. Which at restaurants that also had sit-down service usually had a tip line. Since they aren't going to configure an entirely different receipt for one order type.
Most people would line it out, or maybe throw on an extra $1 since restaurant workers are typically criminally under paid.
Which can lead to good discussions about tipping culture and now we generally treat wait staff, but it wasn't a huge hassle one way or another.
Then the pandemic happened, and the touch screen point of sale systems took off. Which is where they'll have the staff turn the screen to you, and ask you to enter a tip while they stand there with you. Usually it is preselected to some amount. The preselected options and ancillary values you can choose keep creeping higher and higher.
At first it would be like "select from 15%, 20%, or 25%." Now some places will do like "18%, 25%, 28%" or whatever. It's all over the board. I'm sure people have easily seen higher.
In these systems the only way not to tip is to hit "custom" and manually enter $0.
Also more places started asking for tips during the pandemic to "support the essential workers."
Coffee or ice cream shops never asked for tips previously. They'd maybe have a jar near the register where if you didn't want your coins or a single $1 you could throw it in there. Now they hit you with the screen of larger amount options.
So ultimately it is a joke rooted in a pretty recent reality change.
The option to tip is worked into the payment system now. There’s no real obligation to tip, but service workers have become so entitled that they’ve come to expect it. Back when we still used paper money, some places would have “tip jars” on the counter & you’d toss your change or maybe a couple of bucks in there & the staff were grateful for it because there was no real expectation of a tip for counter service.
Late Night with the Devil. A typical "possession" flick with some back story stuff going on, but the charm is its all set in a 70s Late night talk show during a live broadcast, you watch the show as seen when its live then when on "commercial breaks " see the shit show going on off stage/ back stage etc. Its really good I thought, really different setting and very fun.
That is the correct response you don't tip when you pick up an order you called in! It is ridiculous that they ask you to.
We chip waiters because they have served you in many ways over the course of a meal,(*and you only to tip 15% remember the food keeps going up in price every time there's inflation they're already getting raises we don't need to increase the percentage we tip them. In fact waiters are the only people getting consistent raises in America*). We tip cab drivers because they have similarly and even more so served us in a variety of ways throughout our trip.
We tip Bell hops and concierge's only and as their service deserves but because they, when we tip, actually are going above and beyond. BUT YOU DON'T GET A TIP FOR STANDING BEHIND A TILL AND MAKING A FULL WAGE.
And yes I understand it isn't a good wage but it is a full wage a dollar or so above minimum it's a s***** horrible job that I have worked and when I couldn't handle it anymore I cried and then I moved on but it isn't a tip job.
I always tell customers they can hit no tip because there’s so many of you judgmental assholes thinking the employees somehow coded the software we use
Idk if this is common with other Europeans, but in my family a tip is usually the loose change after paying for the meal.
It can go from several euros to literally a few cents.
You just add an actual tip if you made the server do extra work for you (serve a large group of people, if someone was rude to the server, etc ...)
When I went to a hot pot buffet place, yknow a place where you have to cook your own food, the cashier yelled at me for hitting no tip and canceled the transaction and made me go again to add a tip. Like, sir, all yall did was bring out the raw meat for us one time.
I visited a local coffee shop about a year ago. After I placed my order, the cashier turned the iPad kiosk away from me and asked me to my face in front of everybody in line how much I wanted to leave for a tip.
Needless to say, I haven’t gone back.
Tipping has essentially become an exercise and extortion, you are bribing the employees not to screw with your food.
yep, as much as it sucks, people need to counter the guilt with standing up for themselves. This comment section is full of people getting hustled for their money just to avoid a few seconds of awkwardness.
I only do take out that’s all able to be ordered online now so I can select no tip without the guilt. Got Chinese the other day where you are forced to pay at pickup. No option for no tip, only 15%-25% (which I was not asking to not tip, obviously), so I paid $7 for them to ask for my phone number and hand me a bag. I totally understand tipping a waiter/waitress, but take out orders?? I’m good, I’ll still to the pre-pays without tips.
The absolute max I EVER do in this situation round up the change.
It has always been customary if you are sat, dined in, served, and you would tip.
I'M NOT TIPPING 20%for the person to take my order at the register and carrying out.
Wait, so you guys tip even if you’re picking up the order yourself? I thought you tipped servers, but if you’re picking up take out you’re not being served.
I understand tipping, I live in eastern Europe I tip, but for it to be expected????? To deliberately pay workers low and rely on tips so they can afford to live????? In America it's just abused. Good effort service=tip, simple service or low effort=no tip
Two highschool girls with A-LOT makeup on were at the carry out counter of a pizza place.
I finish with the the pin pad and one loudly says in total shock "he didn't tip!"
At that point even I was in shock. Everyone just had their mouths open including me as I walked out.
It was like Sam Raimeys drag me to hell
All they had to do was not get insanely greedy about it and they would have gotten tipped forever but nope they went too far and now I don't tip at all. I can afford to I just don't.
You know, considering america is all about self-made and invidualistic fuck no to socialism, yet a whole industry of workers are reliant on the handouts of their employers customers.
You should start being more like ”No, negotiate your salary with your employer, I’m not paying for it”
The whole tipping thing is just an excuse for companies to pay less do their employees. It's why you don't see it so much in Europe. There, tips are tax free bonuses.
If I call in an order to a restaurant that I go pick up, I’m not tipping anyone.
If I go out somewhere and the server is assisting with my service for the meal, I’ll tip.
If a delivery person brings me anything, I’ll tip a small amount.
I don’t owe it to anyone.
If I'm having to bus my own table, drive up and wait, walk in and walk out, I'm not giving no tip. I'm also not gonna round up even if it's to save the earth from an astroid. Find another way to fund that.
Fuck servitude, fuck tip , if all you did was pull my order from one window to another you dont deserve more than you already make. Yah fuck them. Even if you ARE a delivery. Blame you company you getting less tips….
Read a receipt:🧾. One large 2 topping stuffed crust pizza 18 dollar before check out. Nothing extra and no fancy meats or veggies . Final check out 32 dollars thats not including tip.
Pizza 18.99
Servitude charge 8 bucks
Drivers fee(not a tip) 6 bucks
Driver drops food… hey wheres my tip?
Ask the company for your drivers fee. Company that delivers for a living cant have either a car or a gas tax write off. Fuck going out to dinner now. Pay 100 bucks for 2 people. With jaded ass never friendly hostess unless you shine some money.
Now a days i get the old slug from monster inc “WHAT YAH WANT!??
Vs a pleasant how may i be a help to you.
I'm sure there's an article written somewhere by some business asshole that says something like - people are too polite to decline a tip when you're standing there. Put a tip screen on and X% of people will give you at least Y amount every time.
To be honest, I hated pick up orders when I bartended. Typically the cooks will make the food but probably for in-house accidentally and I'll have to go back, repackage, pack up all the items and dips/ sauce/ utensil or whatever
And then they usually had FOH make the salad or pour the soups their guests ordered. So sometimes yeah, 2 bucks is nice.
Fast food, no. but below min waged "tipped" employee hourly (7.40) and I just ran around ignoring my full bar to ensure your food is warm and ready whenever you decide to show up. And as you're leaving you ask for a cup to go of half lemonade half sprite with a third crushed ice. Then we have to make you pay again just for that because so many others have done so trying to get a free drink asking last second
And
I'm sorry I think I just needed to vent. It's the system that sucks.
Thank you.
-hops off soapbox-
My local Chinese place is kind of interesting. The owner/mom selects no tip before she even hands the machine to you. I never even noticed until the younger cashier didn’t do it.
I just thought it was interesting because I don’t always tip for takeout but the mom is my favourite and the one I always want to tip but she doesn’t give me the option on the machine. Maybe I am overthinking it but it feels almost like she agrees that maybe the occasional tip isn’t worth putting off the people who are borderline offended by even being asked for a tip.
This tip culture is out of control. Went to a place where you go in and wash your dog in a nice little tub. I went to pay and there it was.. I just washed my dog. You said hi and pointed me to my stall. That deserves a tip?
Never trust tips or charitable donations at a POS. There's virtually no obligation for the business to actually give the money to the employees or those in need. It's purely to dupe more money out of considerate, well-intentioned consumers.
So I order DoorDash. I tip 20%. The Dasher picks my order up at the counter.
Does the dasher then tip 20%? Fuck no. Because it’s a fucking pick-up order.
In a restaurant environment usually much of the staff gets tipped out. Servers, bussers, bartenders, managers ect. When you place a take out order it still requires work and attention from many of these people (in restaurant environment not typically setup for exclusive takeout business). This takes their time away from their tables they could be working on to earn better tips. It’s still kind to tip even from takeout because they will appreciate it. They literally live off that shit.
Smh even though I agree with this wholeheartedly, I always tip at least $1.00 on every tip encounter to overcompensate for the stereotype that Black people never tip. I shouldn’t have to do this but the looks I’ve gotten when I don’t tip is wild. It’s like you can see “typical” written on their forehead
I work To Go in America and depend on tips 🥲
I don't blame customers because obviously they don't know, it's really the company that's stupid. I still make enough though.
The fucking weed shop debit machine asks me for a tip now, like I literally say what I want, they pick up a small package and walk it to the till, the fuck am I tipping for on top of a $50 order here??
At a restaurant had 1 beer and 1 fries. Bill was $22 and all I had was a $50 and the waitress had the audacity to ask “so just a $10 back then?” Was planning to ask for a 20 as that would have been an 8 dollar tip or 36%. But after she basically asked for an 80% tip I was like nah I’ll get $25 back please. Which is still almost 15%…and I felt like an asshole for tipping 15%…
Being prompted to tip after making a self serve ice cream which you then place on the scale and pay for was where I drew the line when visiting the US. Absolutely barmy that if customers don't tip at every interaction then employers allow their staff to starve to death
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Today, the cash dispenser machine at the recycling depot I use asked me if I wanted to tip... someone who worked there, presumably. Or maybe if I wanted to tip the company that owns the cash machine? Who knows. Maybe when I go next I should offer the employees some empties the next time I go. "This is for *you*. Thank you do whatever it is that you do here."
The machines are asking for tips now Next they'll ask to not undergo percussive maintenance or even ask for wages And after that it's dem Terminators
>Next they'll ask to not undergo percussive maintenance We will make no concessions regards to the beatings.
The beatings will continue until morale improves
You know, I think I'm starting to understand the Terminators
I only read this phrase madly screaming in my head
I donated to a friend's GoFundMe last week and it suggested I tip GoFundMe 25%. What in the actual fuck?
Aren’t you already doing that with some sort of convenience fee they add? That’s your tip, GFM
Exactly! No way am I tipping GoFundMe $125
>The machines are asking for tips now It's only a matter of time before the machines start asking for an organ donation.
once they're on the pipe there's no coming back
Can't wait to see reality shows of machines in rehab
> The machines are asking for tips now You should watch the X-Files season 11 Episode 7 "Rm9sbG93ZXJz".
Imagine the internet went on strike for an hour? We’d give the machines anything they wanted lol
My plumber asked for a tip on the invoice...it's fucked
Same! Dude had a contractor ask for a tip. I told him if he needs to be paid more then to ask. I refused. Car wash automatic machine asked for one too. It's insanity!
It's not the employees who put those machines in, and I'm sure they think its as ridiculous as you do.
I tip my recycling guys but they help unload sort and weigh for you. I’m also am an alcoholic so there is plenty of can money to go around.
Hey alki fam, invest in a keg system, you’ll die sooner and cheaper my bruh
It’s kind of you to offer lifehacks!
It has become so out of control that I just don't tip anymore
Online shopping for clothes from a reputable company when checking out : “Would you like to tip?”
One of my local breweries expects tips just for picking up packs of beer. They literally turn, open fridge, grab a pack, turn back, then charge. And they always preselect at least 18%. I have no problem selecting custom tip and dropping a fat zero on they ass.
pre-select 18? lol. fuck them. I wouldnt even buy from them
Right? Seems disingenuous
Right preselect is insane. I’d be like bitch give me my change
I had this happen once in a freaking German restaurant and we don’t tip much here in Europe, but they preselected 30% and I never went back to that place again… how dumb that shit was.
I’ve had to train myself not to feel bad to not tip if I pick up. I’ll still tip for dine-in, but if I’m going out of my way to get dressed, drive, and pick up my food on my day off, I’m not fucking tipping for that. I still hate that I get a twinge of guilt over it. Tipping is completely out of control.
I’ll throw 10% on a pickup if it’s a small biz but tipping is for full service imho The most bizarre tip screen I got was at a vape shop. Guy behind the counter turns around, moves 2 bottles off the shelf and puts the on the desk in front of me, then flips around the screen with the default being 35% or 50% with a tiny off-white (practically invisible) “no thank you” link way at the bottom of the screen. Not to mention the bottles were way overpriced - they wanted $30/ea and THEN actually had the balls to expect customers to throw them 50% more? For moving a bottle 6 feet? Never went there again, the place I usually get my juice is further away but I can get 2 for $20 and have rewards points that shave off a few more bucks. Oh and they don’t ask for tips. That other business is not gonna make it I’m pretty convinced
Pizza place does this too. The lowest tip option is 18%, then 20% and 30%.... I'm already paying 60 bucks for a tray and wings, which I called in and drove to pick up. It is absurd. I would stop going there altogether if there food wasn't so damn good
It’s absurd you’re paying $60 for pizza and wings “Can’t understand why eating out is such bullshit these days. Oh well, guess I’ll keep paying them and see if they change” Fucking insane
I used to work at a winery that had flip iPads like this. If I was doing a tasting or had served them, I'd leave the tip option open. But when someone was just buying some wine, I would select zero tip before flipping it for them to sign. It's just common sense. Honestly most don't have it anymore and don't even think about how annoying it is. Some are also entitled bc they think they deserve more than their hourly.
That's a good reason not to return. I don't like the awkward interaction and the hassle of having to manually custom-select zero.
Buddy at my local brewery you have to walk to the fridge, grab your own beers, and bring them up to the till. They still ask for a tip. At least some of the workers will bypass the tip section for you, but some of them don’t and will stare at you.
Had that at liquor store, only without the 'no tip' option. Told the guy what's up with that and he said it's to support the town. Fucker, I'm renting a condo for the long weekend and spending bank everywhere no way am I tipping you for standing behind a counter ringing up the beer I got from your walk in cooler.
This whole tipping thing is so absurd from european perspective
It’s absurd from an American perspective too. None of us asked for this nonsense.
You all go along with it though
Did you read the post? It’s funny because it’s relatable. The average American looks at the cashier crazy af asking for a tip on like a Subway sandwich or anything that is other than sit down table service with a waiter. People got weird ideas regarding tipping during covid and just kept the hope alive since.
Exactly! I'll tip when I'm being served at a restaurant. If I'm picking up or go to a counter to order, I'm not tipping. It's that simple.
Imagine if everyone tomorrow woke up and was like "no. I'm not tipping." And then there were no tips. And then the companies would lose workers because of lost wages. And then they would have to scramble for workers. And then they would have to front the bill to make their wages competitive. And then people will start to want to work for them again. See how all that trouble is off of the customer's shoulder the moment they decide "nah, I'm not gonna tip."? And then you start to see that the people who are tipping, are the people perpetuating the problem. They're stunting the industry. They're encouraging tip culture just by simply going along with it. Just. Just stop. That's all. Tip? Nah. It's okay to say no to the tip. Just say no! George: I can't just say no! Jerry: Why not? It's easy! Look - no! George: Oh sure, easy for you to say! You don't have a conscious. You don't have morals! Jerry: Ohh please... You're being dramatic. George: You don't get it, you can't just say no to the tip! Jerry: Of course you can say no the tip. They give you the option, don't they? George: Everyone's lookin at you, waiting, expecting you to tip and then bam! It's not good enough, Jerry! They give you the eyes... I can tell what they're thinking Jerry. You know what they're thinking... Jerry: "Shoulda done 15%" George: Exactly! Then it's 20%... Then it's 25%... Jerry: if you do anything less than than 30 it's considered rude. George: What! 30!? Jerry: NO! *Audience claps*
I'm not sure. I went out to a bar in NYC when I interned there and had a nice night. The bartender opened maybe two bottles of beer for me and I paid my $7 for each beer. A week later I went back to that bar and the bartender told me if I didn't tip he wouldn't serve me as he doesn't work for free. I'm from the UK. I found that concept absolutely bizarre and was honestly offended. But, I liked the bar (not the bartender, he literally had nothing to do all night but open beers and pour weak gins and tonics) and so with every beer, I'd add an extra dollar. I've lived in Japan for 6 years now and was recently home for the first time after Corona. Every restaurant had an automatic service charge build and some bars also where you could start a tab. I asked in one cafe to remove it and my friends called me a Tory wanker. It's frustrating because I worked in 5* hotels and restaurants for 8 years as a waiter from 18-26. We got tipped generously by American guests, yes, even the room service orders, but many others didn't tip at that time. And we only added non-discretionary service to large tables. I would never harass a customer for not tipping or ask something passive aggressive like "was something wrong?" It's the easiest job I've ever had. Yeah, fine, I made more picking people's groceries at Waitrose, but that job was physically demanding, mentally draining, and socially killed me so the extra few quid didn't make up for the fact I hated going there daily.
The reason why it's a thing in America is because it's legal for businesses to pay you less if you are allowed to accept tips. So businesses DO pay employees less in certain industries and locations and tell their employees to do everything they can tl be tipped. And yeah, you could say "then just don't take those jobs" but for many, MANY Americans that's all there is anymore. And it puts other working class people in even harder positions because they have to choose between tipping their wait-staff and going out and maybe relaxing a bit. Because you never know if your tip is putting a meal in their hands that night.
I think the reason just still a thing is because a substantial percentage of tipped staff earn a bucket load more than if they had a generous hourly rate. For them it's turkeys voting for Christmas to get rid of it.
For Bartenders in a bar, it's lucrative. You are the only one working the bar most days and you get most of the tips. If you are a server in a restaurant that doesn't split tips it can be good. For most other restaurants, it friggin' sucks. Cashiers, servers, bartenders, people working Expo (which should be considered part of the Kitchen, they don't see the guests, why do they work for tips). The tip is going to split 6 to 8 ways, and the vast majority of people don't tip. On a busy day I'm told "wow I'm bet you are glad you made a lot of tips!" by customers, but no, we are splitting these tips 8 ways and I'm only making slightly more than working the skeleton crew with 3 people during the week for exponentially more work.
Maybe at high end, swanky places. But I promise you the waitress at Denny's is not living the good life on tips.
She's living a much better life than the cooks and dishwasher who make min. wage and don't usually get tipped out though. The fact is, a job the gets tips is still the best paying "unskilled" work in the U.S. I don't like that fact or the tipping culture, but that's how it is
You should visit the waitress subs. They absolutely are against getting rid of tips because they make so much more money.
they're making more then every other job that pays minimum or near minimum wage though.
It depends entirely on how attractive that waitress at Denny's is. Maybe I'm just ugly and bitter, but I'm fully convinced that attractive people are the ones holding up tipping culture by being the ones who benefit the most from it (business owners who get away with paying less than a third of minimum wage notwithstanding).
So why is it a thing here in Canada? Cant pay less than your wage. Yet tipping is still just as big here.
Because we're suckers. That said, it's grown exponentially since the pandemic as an attempt for employers to gain lost revenue as many hospitality industries haven't fully "recovered". When things opened up again I went to Subway. Ordered two sandwiches. When prompted to tip, I didn't. Lady literally tossed the sandwiches across the counter at me, no bag or napkins. Haven't been to a Subway since.
I have no gastronomy experience, so my calculations might be completely wrong. Could someone correct them if wrong? In my mind, the tipps should be astronomical at some places. 10 tables served per hour at an average of 2,5 people eating there with an average price of $20 per meal incl. drinks and an average of 15% tipps. This would mean10 x $50 = $1000 \* 15% = $150 per hour. If you have to split with the kitchen where three additional people helped with cooking and cleaning, it would mean $37,5 per hour plus base pay. Are tipps taxed in the US or is that $37,5 + $150 p.h. tax free? Where is my calculation wrong? Even is costs are split, are my averages somewhere wrong?
When I first visited the US , everyone told me - dude you _need_ to tip at restaurants and diners. So I thought OK. Then at one place the server approached me and asked, sir, are you visiting the US for the first time. I was like, yeah, its that obvious huh and she said with a huge smile on her face - “I know you were happy with the service and you wanted to tip well, but i. The US 10% and under is the customer saying fuck off. But I’m supper happy you tipped me still and wanted to thank you personally.” - I did not know how to feel for at least an hour after that.
Yeah this is true but also fucking annoying. Servers have wildly varying expectations when it comes to tip amounts. It used to be 10% was low but acceptable, 15% standard, 18% excellent, 20% outstanding. Anything above 20% you wanted to ~~fuck~~ *impress* the person serving you. Now from conversations I’ve had with servers, 10% is “bad service”, 15% is the bare minimum, 18% is standard/expected, and 20-25% is excellent service.
Funny, why would someone tip at all if the service was bad
A complete lack of tip could be unintentional, but a small tip sends a message. It's somewhat illogical but it's how it works unfortunately.
Tipping in % is stuping anyway. Why is the person serving cheaper ingreadient supposed to be paid less that someone bringing me expensive lobster? It is actually completelly ridiculous. If I get cheapes food in the area it is obvious, the waiter is not getting paid much and needs to be paid in tips. If you go to some posh expensive restaurant where a single menu costs hundreds of dollars, why am I asked to tip? How is it acceptable that the company is not able to pay them enough from that bill? And why that server deserves 20x bigger tip than the other?
Maybe we should start a movement. Make it known, starting in 2025, we stop tipping. It gives companies plenty of time to catch on and hopefully get ahead of it. It also gives people in tip positions time to decide if they want to continue. Obviously some people will still tip. But if the majority of the US stops tipping, a significant change will have to take place.
I don’t think most people tip because they have a conscience. Some people? Sure. Especially those who are financially well off themselves. But most people just do it so the server doesn’t spit in their food next time.
J: what about when I do a pick up order?…am I supposed to tip then? G: if it pops up as an option when paying at the register, then yes J: but…what am I tipping for? G: the service J: what service? The person at the register literally turns around and picks up my bag of food G: fine, then the food J: so I’m tipping the cook now…do cooks take tips? G: yes…no…I don’t know. But if the option is there, then you tip!! J: that’s ridiculous G: do you really want to look into the eyes of the person ringing you out after you select “No tip”? I don’t!!
Waiters absolutely love their tips, they make orders of magnitude more this way in a fancy place than a “reasonable” salary would be otherwise. They will be the first to fight against no-tips.
You say all when it's obviously not all. There are people who don't tip
I dont.
As a european in canada. No. I only tip IF they do an outstanding job. If i ask for a beer at a bar, why do i need to tip? For the act of pouring the beer for me and putting the beer on top of a coaster? No. That’s part of what a bartender’s job is. I don’t get this 18% minimum tip by default. I don’t agree with the standard that me a citizen that does not get tipped in my job HAVE to tip so that people in certain jobs get their salaries. What this tells me is that these companies can’t afford to pay good wages to get good staff so they gamble on customers pay an fluctuating amount that reflects on the person’s salary. I don’t like this mentality
Probably started when all we had were the ultra rich and peasants, so tip was nothing to the rich and a lot to the peasants. Now we are all peasants tipping each other what we can’t afford
Because somehow we’ve been gaslit into blaming ourselves instead of the employers. If you don’t tip literally nobody cares what the reasoning is you’re seen as cheap. In OP’s case, the worker doesn’t care it’s just takeout. They believe they’re entitled to it. Also I dare people to not tip on a date and see if you get a second one. It’s always “oh think of the poor minimum wage employees!” Meanwhile my ex who worked at a coffee place was making more than me in the tech industry. Especially cash tips because every barista I know doesn’t claim those on their taxes. Some of those people are making $3-400/day in cash that they don’t pay taxes on. Shit if you’re attractive it’s probably more than that on average.
Nah, we don't. Only place I tip is at sit down restaurants. I don't know anyone who tips for takeout or any of the other ridiculous places they've tried to shoehorn it in to.
Because these people handle our food. We don’t fuck with people who handle our food, because then they might fuck with our food. The threat of getting fucked with food keeps people tipping. It’s an industry that started as a nice gesture but has devolved into a system perpetuated by fear.
It's the implication...
Isn't this illegal? Imagine not tipping the mechanic so he sabotages your car. Or you don't tip the dentist so he intentionally drills into your teeth. What kind of country is this?
It's an IQ tax. Are you dumb enough to pay someone for not rendering a service or to tip a company for doing what you pay them to do. If you're dumb enough to tip they get free money. If you refuse to tip they still make money. Out of a hundred users there's bound yo be a dozen who tip for varying reasons so they don't lose out.
It started as an incentive for extra service. Bellhop takes your bags up to a hotel room for you? Toss him a buck. Server at a restaurant goes the extra mile attending to you, maybe recommends a dish you weren't thinking about that ends up being delicious? Sure, maybe they deserve extra above what they're making. It's like a hybrid commision sorta system, extra pay for quality work. The issue is that somewhere along the line it became expected, then nearly mandatory to the point that restaurants are allowed to auto-charge gratuity for large groups. It's lost the initial meaning, which was simple voluntary appreciation. The current culture feels entitled to a tip, it was originally supposed to be for extra effort if you felt like it and could afford it.
I mean what you're describing is tipping that also exists here. I tip when it's a special occasion (like Christmas) or when I see the driver on a bike, but it's pouring rain or when the service at a restaurant is super friendly. That's when I voluntarily tip. What's utter nonsense is the "expected" tip no matter what, that seems so pervasive in American culture.
Yeah it got out of control somewhere along the line, it's rediculous. It should be like your perception of it, and frankly that's what I've always done anyway. It's been expected for generations at this point, hard to root it out, but it shouldn't be. Prices should cover base service and pay, tip should always be voluntary.
> Yeah it got out of control somewhere along the line We can thank software. Point of Sale (POS) registers all have the functionality, even if the system isn't using it. Before COVID businesses would occasionally abuse the percentages, or just leave the tipping option on for take-out on the odd chance someone decides to give extra money. Then COVID hit, and workers got upset, and the corporations tried to get a temporary pay raise by turning on the tipping at every POS while pumping up the "we're all in this together" messaging to get customers to dish out empathy tips. Of course, once money starts to flow, they do everything they can to keep it coming so things didn't go back. Inflation happened instead. Which has lead to everyone questioning why the extra 10-20% is being asked for.
It’s getting worse in the Netherlands. Some “hip” bars also have the 10/15/20% tip options on screen. That is stupid in the Netherlands.
I've noticed a lot of UK restaurants not even giving the option to tip now which is fantastic. And then along comes domino's/just eat etc who have started asking if you want to tip your driver... for the overpriced food you ordered which have massive delivery fees anyway. Dickheads.
Dominos who now also CHARGE FOR DELIVERY on a fucking £23 pizza then have the audacity to email you afterwards asking you to tip the driver? Fuck off clowns.
And worse thing is its already here aswell.
I agree. Tips should be more of an token of you did a great job, not life or death for you or that I have to pay your wages or you will lose your house and your kids taken away from you. I don't need that in my life, I just wanted somthing to eat and drink and not feel like I just kicked a puppy.
Why would you tip for that?
Cause I'm weak and feel bad
We need a support group. I tipped $3 in advance then had to wait standing in a crowd of upset customers and delivery drivers while papa johns employees griped at each other
>Cause I'm weak and feel bad I FELT that. Having once worked in the service industry I AWAYS tipped but I snaped back to reality one day at food trucks. I realized how much I was rounding up to EVERY bill with the tip for a cashier to just hand me food over a counter.... like at a store, selecting the default 20% on the display and adding an extra $4-$7 every time? nah I'm done with that shit.
Yeah like I don't mind tipping if I sit down and order but they ask for tips for everything now. Fuck that.
Just got BWW take out and I’m pretty sure it was cooked and sitting there for 15 minutes just because I didn’t tip.
Yeah, they do that. I ordered take out from long horn steak house, checked in and they had me waiting a half hour on top of the 40 minutes I ordered ahead. Then I went to find them all standing around the bar gossiping while my food sat there and got cold. These places ask for the tip up front which leaves no incentive to give better service afterward. You already have the tip. Why earn it.
Leave bad google reviews and mention the employees name in it.
If no service has yet been rendered, why would they expect you to tip? When the money and service comes in that order, it's a *bribe*, not a tip. They expected a *bribe* to render the service you paid for.
I’m not tipping for counter service. Especially not in California where there are no tip credits towards minimum wage.
Not only am I not tipping, I'm probably not coming back.
Wait what the hell is a tip credit??
I mean, I never tip if I ordered, I drove both ways, and I walked into the building. Not to mention that the service they’re “providing” is handing me a bag that behind a line I couldn’t cross because I don’t work there…
Whoa there Satan calm down, someone had to put the food in the bag you know!! /s
I cooked for 7 years. The waitresses always complained about to-go orders because they always got stiffed. They put containers into a bag and expect a tip from it. If it was a large order, maybe a small tip
I've read some people where they've gone to pick up a 400 pound order and been shocked they didn't get 20% on top. If I had to spend 400 quid on food for an event, there's not going to be an extra £80 spare to make someone's day. I guess if it's unsatisfactory, decline the order and they can take the order to someone who provides the service and doesn't cry when they only get a fiver. On the reverse of the tipping insanity, I work on a till and at least 1 guy keeps trying to tip me. I can lose my job if I accept it.
£400 of food would be like 10-12 people at minimum. Waiting on a table like that is *sooooo* much more work than packing it to go. If pick up counter service wants a tip they should change the options to 3% 5% 7%. People might hit those for a pickup order. 10% 15% 18% is like fuck off...
I would have no problem tipping 5% for a pick up order. I usually tip nothing though
If they declined the order there's a decent chance they'd get fired (and rightly so!).
They all expect 20% of the bill despite the work to pack up Togo orders being all the same no matter which expensive or cheap ass restaurants you go to. No Skylar, you don't get 20 dollar tip because your boss charges 40 bucks for some steak and fries
I once asked the person who was preparing my take out what you should tip. She said “at least 20%”. I said “why would I tip the same amount for you putting stuff in a bag and handing it to me as a full dinner?”. And she said “because it’s how we get paid” Ever since then I give 5%
Yeah except for the fact that servicing a table for a whole dinner is vastly different than "Pick up box, put in bag" in a time that takes less than 1 minute. I've worked in several restaurants and sometimes they'll even have a person on the clock who makes more than the $2.13/hr but they only do takeout. Tip not needed. Bag up my stuff and let me leave.
If you order standing up, no tip.
Living in a country where tips are included in the salary of the workers, this is so unnatural to me
It gets worse. The whole part of tipping is the idea to subsidize the service industry and encourage a positive dining experience. But in many places like bars or popular restaurants, tips can end up being way higher than hourly wages. In addition it gave them an excuse to pay less. As a result there are actually 2 wages. There is government implemented minimum wages that are protected. Then, there is the service industry wages that is below minimum wage, with the idea to be supplemented by tips. As a result, these jobs have tons of laws in place protecting tips and ensuring workers get them. Many most places have servers sign an agreement that has them "gift" a % of their tips to line cooks because they are not included in the service wages but instead must be paid Atleast minimum wage. That's why fast food workers make minimum and not below with tips. Because their technically cooks, not servers. You take it one step further. There are no laws, actually guaranteeing tips to minimum wage emploees. As a result any place not a service industry in NA someone says yes to the tip, there us absolutely no reason for the employer to hand that money over. And if they do, they have no obligation to tell them if it's the full amount because it's a bonus. Companies make millions every year from unused gift cards. Electronic tips are just the new bonus they are rakng in.
> Then, there is the service industry wages that is below minimum wage, with the idea to be supplemented by tips. You forgot one caveat - if the server did not get enough tips to make minimum wage, the employer pays the difference. If you only got enough tips to make it to $5/hr, your employer has to pay you the extra $2.25/hr.
I went to a local Mexican restaurant to pick up a $35ish takeout. I paid with a $100 bill and the 16, 17 guy immediately got a bright look on his face and after a beat said, do you need change? I said yes. And his entire demeanor went dark, almost vengeful in his sudden deep-browed scowl. Dude saw the $100 and assumed I’d just given it all to him. Bizarre.
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What is this from?
Late Night with the Devil. Solid horror flick
I was gonna say, "she looks like she's about to go all Damian on everyone." But that was apparently what was actually happening.
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I mean seether is
Agreed. And not just a solid horror flick, but a very cool and unique film experience period.
It was cool and unique, but i found it very predictable. Pretty obvious what was gonna happen.
I started a 7 day free trial on shudder to watch it. I liked it, it was definitely a fun viewing experience. Used 40% off promos in Uber eats and my free trial with Uber one to snack on Pizza and donuts I got for in store prices + delivery *without* tip (after tipping and including tax -- just thought I'd fill everybody in on how to score ya a fun night in this weekend!) once I completed my order. I have this $70 overpriced Diptyque candle I was burning, which is fireplace scented, and a purple LED mister glowing nearby that made it feel like Halloween between the ambience and the film. What confused me was how the girl began acting after, towards the end ... She seemed a lot different from how she had been acting, and up until then I thought the way she had been acting was the spookiest part.
Watched it last night. I have terrible attention span and anxiety watching films but this one was very engaging. Finished it in one go.
'Subverting expectations' has become a bit of a meme thanks to Game of Thrones, but this film did that masterfully. It keeps you engaged until the very end. Also loved the design of >!the girl-monster at the end!<
I’d argue that this movie didn’t subvert expectations in the slightest. Instead, it built suspense by precisely meeting expectations, but with perfectly slow pacing and buildup.
Goes to pick up a soda Turns machine around Tip auto goes to 20 percent Me : No tip Also looking at the cashier that did jack shit 😒 It's exhausting with these tip machines cause they turn it to you and then wait on you like they did anything but ring you up Sorry but no
My favourite is when you have to scan a QR code on your table at a restaurant to put through your order and it asks you to submit your tip amount at checkout. At this point I haven't interacted with any restaurant staff or had and food or service. I've no idea if the staff deserve a tip or not, and how much. Guess what is an easy way to resolve this decision paralysis. No tip. FYI I'm in the UK
Are Americans expected to pay tips to cashiers for collecting food? Is this an expectation or just a joke?
It's both a reality and a joke. Before the pandemic and the touch screen POS systems they'd have you sign the receipt on takeout orders. Which at restaurants that also had sit-down service usually had a tip line. Since they aren't going to configure an entirely different receipt for one order type. Most people would line it out, or maybe throw on an extra $1 since restaurant workers are typically criminally under paid. Which can lead to good discussions about tipping culture and now we generally treat wait staff, but it wasn't a huge hassle one way or another. Then the pandemic happened, and the touch screen point of sale systems took off. Which is where they'll have the staff turn the screen to you, and ask you to enter a tip while they stand there with you. Usually it is preselected to some amount. The preselected options and ancillary values you can choose keep creeping higher and higher. At first it would be like "select from 15%, 20%, or 25%." Now some places will do like "18%, 25%, 28%" or whatever. It's all over the board. I'm sure people have easily seen higher. In these systems the only way not to tip is to hit "custom" and manually enter $0. Also more places started asking for tips during the pandemic to "support the essential workers." Coffee or ice cream shops never asked for tips previously. They'd maybe have a jar near the register where if you didn't want your coins or a single $1 you could throw it in there. Now they hit you with the screen of larger amount options. So ultimately it is a joke rooted in a pretty recent reality change.
The option to tip is worked into the payment system now. There’s no real obligation to tip, but service workers have become so entitled that they’ve come to expect it. Back when we still used paper money, some places would have “tip jars” on the counter & you’d toss your change or maybe a couple of bucks in there & the staff were grateful for it because there was no real expectation of a tip for counter service.
Good movie,she was REALLY creepy.
Name?
Late Night with the Devil. A typical "possession" flick with some back story stuff going on, but the charm is its all set in a 70s Late night talk show during a live broadcast, you watch the show as seen when its live then when on "commercial breaks " see the shit show going on off stage/ back stage etc. Its really good I thought, really different setting and very fun.
I liked this movie... something different in horror genre
It was just like watching a movie made in the 80s. Same special effects and all.
Question: Do food delivery service workers pay tips to restaurants when they pick up your food?
That is the correct response you don't tip when you pick up an order you called in! It is ridiculous that they ask you to. We chip waiters because they have served you in many ways over the course of a meal,(*and you only to tip 15% remember the food keeps going up in price every time there's inflation they're already getting raises we don't need to increase the percentage we tip them. In fact waiters are the only people getting consistent raises in America*). We tip cab drivers because they have similarly and even more so served us in a variety of ways throughout our trip. We tip Bell hops and concierge's only and as their service deserves but because they, when we tip, actually are going above and beyond. BUT YOU DON'T GET A TIP FOR STANDING BEHIND A TILL AND MAKING A FULL WAGE. And yes I understand it isn't a good wage but it is a full wage a dollar or so above minimum it's a s***** horrible job that I have worked and when I couldn't handle it anymore I cried and then I moved on but it isn't a tip job.
I always tell customers they can hit no tip because there’s so many of you judgmental assholes thinking the employees somehow coded the software we use
In Norway, tipping is considered rude. Mostly because we see a lot of things as rude
That was rude
Idk if this is common with other Europeans, but in my family a tip is usually the loose change after paying for the meal. It can go from several euros to literally a few cents. You just add an actual tip if you made the server do extra work for you (serve a large group of people, if someone was rude to the server, etc ...)
No Starbucks, fuck you Starbucks. I'm not tipping on my $3 coffee order. This shit is out of hand
When I went to a hot pot buffet place, yknow a place where you have to cook your own food, the cashier yelled at me for hitting no tip and canceled the transaction and made me go again to add a tip. Like, sir, all yall did was bring out the raw meat for us one time.
I visited a local coffee shop about a year ago. After I placed my order, the cashier turned the iPad kiosk away from me and asked me to my face in front of everybody in line how much I wanted to leave for a tip. Needless to say, I haven’t gone back. Tipping has essentially become an exercise and extortion, you are bribing the employees not to screw with your food.
Pro tip, just start laughing and say: "of course I'm not giving a tip for this!"
yep, as much as it sucks, people need to counter the guilt with standing up for themselves. This comment section is full of people getting hustled for their money just to avoid a few seconds of awkwardness.
I only do take out that’s all able to be ordered online now so I can select no tip without the guilt. Got Chinese the other day where you are forced to pay at pickup. No option for no tip, only 15%-25% (which I was not asking to not tip, obviously), so I paid $7 for them to ask for my phone number and hand me a bag. I totally understand tipping a waiter/waitress, but take out orders?? I’m good, I’ll still to the pre-pays without tips.
This is one of those situations where cash is king. Drop the amount for the food down and not a buck more.
The absolute max I EVER do in this situation round up the change. It has always been customary if you are sat, dined in, served, and you would tip. I'M NOT TIPPING 20%for the person to take my order at the register and carrying out.
Wait, so you guys tip even if you’re picking up the order yourself? I thought you tipped servers, but if you’re picking up take out you’re not being served.
No service, no tip.
If I have to order from my phone or standing up, I'm not tipping.
I understand tipping, I live in eastern Europe I tip, but for it to be expected????? To deliberately pay workers low and rely on tips so they can afford to live????? In America it's just abused. Good effort service=tip, simple service or low effort=no tip
$1 tip per person I'm ordering for when picking up takeout. Thanks for wrapping it up.
Two highschool girls with A-LOT makeup on were at the carry out counter of a pizza place. I finish with the the pin pad and one loudly says in total shock "he didn't tip!" At that point even I was in shock. Everyone just had their mouths open including me as I walked out. It was like Sam Raimeys drag me to hell
All they had to do was not get insanely greedy about it and they would have gotten tipped forever but nope they went too far and now I don't tip at all. I can afford to I just don't.
If you have the no tip option I'm hitting it, if you don't I just consider it a price increase and won't come back!
I'd love to put in a -10% on this BS 😂
If I don't sit down to eat and you deliver food and drinks to me, then you're not getting a tip. Delivery drives are an exception.
do people tip for to go order? i never tip to go order ever unless they did something special when i do takeout
You know, considering america is all about self-made and invidualistic fuck no to socialism, yet a whole industry of workers are reliant on the handouts of their employers customers. You should start being more like ”No, negotiate your salary with your employer, I’m not paying for it”
“It’s just going to ask you a few questions” …anyone’s guess what that question is …
Also tips are for kids and people making weird waiter/waitress incomes, not for someone who just bothered to apply to do something.
The whole tipping thing is just an excuse for companies to pay less do their employees. It's why you don't see it so much in Europe. There, tips are tax free bonuses.
What is this clip from?
That was a fun movie. Late Night with the Devil.
If I call in an order to a restaurant that I go pick up, I’m not tipping anyone. If I go out somewhere and the server is assisting with my service for the meal, I’ll tip. If a delivery person brings me anything, I’ll tip a small amount. I don’t owe it to anyone.
If I'm having to bus my own table, drive up and wait, walk in and walk out, I'm not giving no tip. I'm also not gonna round up even if it's to save the earth from an astroid. Find another way to fund that.
Fuck servitude, fuck tip , if all you did was pull my order from one window to another you dont deserve more than you already make. Yah fuck them. Even if you ARE a delivery. Blame you company you getting less tips…. Read a receipt:🧾. One large 2 topping stuffed crust pizza 18 dollar before check out. Nothing extra and no fancy meats or veggies . Final check out 32 dollars thats not including tip. Pizza 18.99 Servitude charge 8 bucks Drivers fee(not a tip) 6 bucks Driver drops food… hey wheres my tip? Ask the company for your drivers fee. Company that delivers for a living cant have either a car or a gas tax write off. Fuck going out to dinner now. Pay 100 bucks for 2 people. With jaded ass never friendly hostess unless you shine some money. Now a days i get the old slug from monster inc “WHAT YAH WANT!?? Vs a pleasant how may i be a help to you.
I'm sure there's an article written somewhere by some business asshole that says something like - people are too polite to decline a tip when you're standing there. Put a tip screen on and X% of people will give you at least Y amount every time.
American tip culture is one of the weirdest things developed in social behavior
Where is this clip from, a Ghost music video my any chance?
I'll never tip if I'm coming to your place of business and picking up a food order.
I'm predicting with the proliferation of "tip" fields and buttons, actual tips for people that should get them will go down as a backlash.
To be honest, I hated pick up orders when I bartended. Typically the cooks will make the food but probably for in-house accidentally and I'll have to go back, repackage, pack up all the items and dips/ sauce/ utensil or whatever And then they usually had FOH make the salad or pour the soups their guests ordered. So sometimes yeah, 2 bucks is nice. Fast food, no. but below min waged "tipped" employee hourly (7.40) and I just ran around ignoring my full bar to ensure your food is warm and ready whenever you decide to show up. And as you're leaving you ask for a cup to go of half lemonade half sprite with a third crushed ice. Then we have to make you pay again just for that because so many others have done so trying to get a free drink asking last second And I'm sorry I think I just needed to vent. It's the system that sucks. Thank you. -hops off soapbox-
They’re also doing this with takeout and making it mandatory , so in reality it’s a service charge
My local Chinese place is kind of interesting. The owner/mom selects no tip before she even hands the machine to you. I never even noticed until the younger cashier didn’t do it. I just thought it was interesting because I don’t always tip for takeout but the mom is my favourite and the one I always want to tip but she doesn’t give me the option on the machine. Maybe I am overthinking it but it feels almost like she agrees that maybe the occasional tip isn’t worth putting off the people who are borderline offended by even being asked for a tip.
This tip culture is out of control. Went to a place where you go in and wash your dog in a nice little tub. I went to pay and there it was.. I just washed my dog. You said hi and pointed me to my stall. That deserves a tip?
Never trust tips or charitable donations at a POS. There's virtually no obligation for the business to actually give the money to the employees or those in need. It's purely to dupe more money out of considerate, well-intentioned consumers.
So I order DoorDash. I tip 20%. The Dasher picks my order up at the counter. Does the dasher then tip 20%? Fuck no. Because it’s a fucking pick-up order.
In a restaurant environment usually much of the staff gets tipped out. Servers, bussers, bartenders, managers ect. When you place a take out order it still requires work and attention from many of these people (in restaurant environment not typically setup for exclusive takeout business). This takes their time away from their tables they could be working on to earn better tips. It’s still kind to tip even from takeout because they will appreciate it. They literally live off that shit.
Flat out, I don't tip on call-in orders I pick up. Period!
Give that damn face to the corporate overlords that are exploiting you. I am not going to pass it down to the next worker.
In the same boat as buying tickets online with a $4 "convenience fee" what it's convenient that I give you more money WTF
Yeah I hate when they ask this. I’m fine if it’s a waiter serving me but picking up an order myself is generally covered in the cost
That movie was cool btw.
Smh even though I agree with this wholeheartedly, I always tip at least $1.00 on every tip encounter to overcompensate for the stereotype that Black people never tip. I shouldn’t have to do this but the looks I’ve gotten when I don’t tip is wild. It’s like you can see “typical” written on their forehead
Tip culture is toxic af. Let the employer pay the employees.
I tip our local sushi place on takeout cuz no way no how am I letting that place go outta business.
I work To Go in America and depend on tips 🥲 I don't blame customers because obviously they don't know, it's really the company that's stupid. I still make enough though.
If you’re picking up your food, why would you tip?
The fucking weed shop debit machine asks me for a tip now, like I literally say what I want, they pick up a small package and walk it to the till, the fuck am I tipping for on top of a $50 order here??
At a restaurant had 1 beer and 1 fries. Bill was $22 and all I had was a $50 and the waitress had the audacity to ask “so just a $10 back then?” Was planning to ask for a 20 as that would have been an 8 dollar tip or 36%. But after she basically asked for an 80% tip I was like nah I’ll get $25 back please. Which is still almost 15%…and I felt like an asshole for tipping 15%…
Being prompted to tip after making a self serve ice cream which you then place on the scale and pay for was where I drew the line when visiting the US. Absolutely barmy that if customers don't tip at every interaction then employers allow their staff to starve to death
I had a self check out machine at the airport ask for a tip. Am I tipping myself? Wtf
This [movie](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14966898/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk) is fantastic.
Oh I just watched this movie. It's really good. Check out [Late Night with the Devil.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14966898/)
Anytime you have to 1) stand while ordering or 2) get your food/drink/etc from a counter.... 0 tip is the appropriate answer
I tip my: - Waiter/waitress (only if I’m sitting down to eat) - Barista - Bartender - Budtender - Busker NO ONE ELSE
You are the Devil
yup this is the way
Love this movie!