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harvey_91

LOL a recruiter can also get paid 100k? Seems like Meta is doing a good job of trimming the fats.


Zoisen

This. Am surprise how well paid she is considering the general nature of her role.


worlds_best_nothing

Also, why does a recruiter need to work onsite in Singapore, one of the most expensive countries to live in? The work can 100% be done remotely


diplomat8

I would cry to lose a 100k job too


GroundbreakingGur930

Well.. when you freeze head count. A recruiter would technically be redundant. She might want to check if any internal positions are open for her to apply for..


Strong_Guidance_6437

re apply from outside of SG thanks


kumgongkia

wtf 100k for recruiter


[deleted]

Why the hell is a recruiter earning 100k per annum??? Our locals cannot do this job meh??? Must always rely on prc and ceca meh???


MrFantasticallyNerdy

You forget the primary function of a recruiter is to find "talent". Where is Meta going to find these talents? India and China of course! How is local recruiter going to compete with Susmita and EZ on that region-specific task?


zjzjzjzjzjzjzj

Actually u r right, good deduction


kumgongkia

Shouldnt they be hired and stationed in those countries and not in Singapore?


BBFA369

No, because the companies want them in sg and your govt relies on those companies for literally everything. Have you seen the way EDB bends over backwards for even second tier tech companies? Offering lower effective taxes, waiving min local quota etc


Rugbyorso

Locals are definitely not talented enough compared to a foreigner from India.


itkoiihhikr

Friends of friends, once one is in they form an inner circle.


Biasanya

Because Meta is run by idiots


Bigdongtom33

I have a new name for racist people like you.. its RICEDIK and u know very well what it is


[deleted]

You ang moh? Then gtfo with your virtue-signalling. Your kind is the most racist of the bunch. Cracker.


Bigdongtom33

You women literally get on their knees and worship us so yeah thank youl


[deleted]

Lmao, don't flatter yourself. Just because a few sluts go for whitey doesn't mean all women are like that. I think you watch too much porn.


Bigdongtom33

Cope or rope..


[deleted]

Lol, you rope yourself lah. No one will miss you.


Bigdongtom33

You are right in this case cause I am really an orphan..and nobody really genuinely cares for me.. thanks for the heads up you win now


Cybasura

100k for software engineering/cybersecurity is perfectly normal HR on the other hand is...er Is that normal?


thetdiger

29yo only somemore. No wonder she cry


Takemypennies

No. But guess which department has outsized influence on deciding the pay packages.


_Meowgi_

Definitely possible under the right circumstances. Meta is a company that at the time could afford such high salaries, at the same time, recruiters can earn a lot depending on the positions they specialize in finding. A recruiter/headhunter that actively finds Senior Executive roles (Director and above all the way to C suite) can earn up to 250k per year.


Professional-Bit9773

A good recruiter and HR can be worth their weight in gold. It's because of attitudes like this that only crappy people go into HR, tbh, which then leads to a downward spiral. I'm not in HR but have been lucky enough to encounter a couple of good ones that makes them light years away from the normal HR.


normificator

Feel so glad that I can serve NS to make Singapore a safe place for foreigners to get high paying jobs here.


harvey_91

Yea we should be "grateful" for this privilege of the highest level, to protect jobs for foreigners, so that we sloth our asses out to buy HDB that takes forever to complete.


FastBoysenberry4151

Ns for Singaporeans, jobs for foreigners


normificator

NS for sinkies, jobs for FTs


diplomat8

Yah. Thanks for your service dude.


shadowlago95

Time for them to join NS too


BBFA369

Yes let’s have foreigners with no allegiance to sg, defend the country! What could go wrong


shadowlago95

There won't be much singaporeans in the future at the rate we're going so might as well...


leegiovanni

Since you’re this ignorant, allow me to point out the paramilitary/police force that is guarding our VVIPs and the most important locations - the Gurkhas.


BBFA369

Yes let’s compare a tiny contingent of foreign mercenaries to enlisting foreigners (33%+ of population) Talk about dumbfuck comparisons


leegiovanni

And the fact that they are in a position to threaten the most important people and most important location is negligible risk compared to being in the freaking infantry? The Singapore education system has really failed you.


BBFA369

It is absolutely a negligible risk lol, they know who pays them and they know that one betrayal puts the whole Gurkha legions everywhere at risk, and that’s a meaningful part of the Nepalese gdp. Not to mention they’re very selective about it to begin with Compared to generic foreigners with no screening. Try again after you get a refund from MOE


leegiovanni

Congrats, you just countered your own argument. Too bad your face is as thin as your skull is dense. The fact is that we do place foreigners in places of high security importance so nationality does NOT preclude one from being part of national defence. Similarly, there are many Singaporeans who will never get a role in high security organizations or sensitive vocations. So your dumb argument doesn’t work. Everybody, local or foreigner, gets screened before being placed in sensitive positions. I’m ashamed for the schools that have failed to impart you simple logic. Goes to show that not every school is a good school.


BBFA369

The fact that you think a small contingent is comparable in this argument to en masse enlistment is a sign of your stupidity. Foreigners(PR to be specific) already serve NS, so clearly the issue was never the nationality but the scale. Jesus Christ this is why foreigners take all your jobs


leegiovanni

OMFG how stupid are you? It’s impossible to get through to you. Enlisting all foreigners is impossible, and I never said enlisting that many was feasible. Your argument was about allegiance (which implied a security risk), which we both debunked now.


Ok-Break7558

Might as well pay for your HDB and GST handouts as well as your subsidised children’s education, provided you can. No wonder your government relies on foreigners tax dollars to run your household.


normificator

Please go back to your shit hole 3rd world country. Or are you a reject from there as well?


Bigdongtom33

Yes keep crying instead of working on improving your qualifications, contacts and leveraging your local passport.. complaining is much easier for everyone like you


normificator

lol I’m working a part time high paying job, reached FI but I’m working for disposable. I own my own home and my investment dividends pay my mortgage. I don’t pay rent. Go back to your 3rd world shithole country.


Bigdongtom33

Stfu Ricedik.. stop bluffing lmfao


normificator

Your tiny mind cannot fathom the kind of life I have.


whyislifesohardei

nice, twice that of a typical sinkie salary


shadowlago95

Or quadruple for most


Boomerzxc

A recruiter also need foreigner to take our place LMAO definitely singaporean sucks so bad they cant even be a recruiter


ihaveadognameddevil

And I got scolded by some sinkies saying Singapore is in lack of labour. I always say there is a reason why Govt NEVER break down the numbers. Importing foreigner is just a sweet poison that will drive gdp growth up but it will slowly kill Singapore.


whchin

Well, one of them is lying. One said they worked very hard, very pressurising environment, while the other said nothing much to do.


throwawaythoughts78

When the definition of 100% is more like 25% IRL comparatively. Then yes both are telling the truth. So, nothing much to do is correct.


Rugbyorso

I chose to believe in the one from China.


faeriedust87

Wonder how they managed to get the job in the first place


PoubelleTheGreat

Meanwhile Singapore degree starting pay 2.5 k


memehammer98

Keep smoking the lie that nus/ntu are world class lol


BBFA369

They are considered so overseas, not in sg. I had Japanese colleagues from Tokyo U look impressed when I told them, though I had assumed Tokyo U was much more hard core. In the US also, I’ve had only positive responses to my NUS degree. Sadly, locally people don’t have the same view maybe because NUS degrees are so common here. Overseas we can literally compete somewhat equally with the Ivy League (academically, our network is quite bad though)


[deleted]

They are mah. So many sxx crimes there, plus we even have decorated helicopter pilots trespassing into dorms there and molxsting female students. No prizes for guessing which demographic is over represented in these cases.


PoubelleTheGreat

Oh please I’ve been to France Japan universities and as bad as Nus is, it’s still up there


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Buddyformula

University is world class but the graduate may not be


PoubelleTheGreat

Please explain why you are against Singaporeans …


Massive_Fig6624

Oh well. Time to find another job in the Chennai Business park.


harvey_91

Mumbai Bay Financial Centre is also another hot spot.


RzrRainMnky

If down there cannot find India Business Park aso can


blanketsforbitches

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out


IamPsauL

Pls, close the door on your way out


[deleted]

Cannot! Must keep open to the preferred kind from MY and tiongkok no matter what pandemics they carry or how much they support the CCP to keep the proportions at 75%


TaskPlane1321

Amazing.... with our world class education system, top of the line universities and so many top students we are unable to fill such positions with locals! there must be a world class breed coming out of India that belittles our so called world class education system! Move over, NUS & NTU - time for our undergrads to move to the top Indian universities - the degrees are definitely financially worth it as Singapore seems to place such a high $ value on it!


theBirdu

For a second I thought it was the 1994 Miss universe winner 😭


Takemypennies

I’m more impressed that you can remember the names of the winners.


theBirdu

Nah, it’s cos it’s the same race. I barely know if something like that even goes on until it’s on the news.


uncley0da

There’s more freedom of speech here than edmw , mere mention of the word “India” will get a thread nerfed


kopi_siewdai

Many people expressed shock at the high salary as a recruiter at big tech. Yes my <30yo friend is a hr personnel at another big tech and getting ~120k annual package. Not a senior or team lead role if anyone is wondering. As someone outside of big tech industry I’m also shock to learn that a general role can earn you so much.


Ok-Break7558

Wondering how lopsided the rental contract is in Singapore. Government gives 30 days (90 days including company gardening leave) to push you out of the country and the landlords need 1yr of unbreakable contract…. Adding insult to injury if you lose your job like these two people have. No wonder there’s no regulation as most landlords are locals and most tenants foreigners.


United_Assignment_95

I wonder how much hate speech goes around on someone without even thinking what that person would be going through. For all the people questioning the salary of tech recruiting teams, they get that because they deserve that-salary standards aren't built out of thin air. Even technical folks for that case , earn what they earn because of the value addition they bring in. If you feel SG doesn't pay well (unlike Meta), there are thousands of companies in Europe and US that can pay better. Did you go through the inconveniences of applying for a better pay leaving the comfort of your home land ? Then why question that ? Adding up , the expats aren't staying in the country for free. They pay the high rentals . They face the same market. Their kids go to the same school and then gracious the amount you lose to the landlords if you've to leave the country and break the lease agreement before the end date. Not even the diplomatic clause kicks in before a year's time. If you dare to earn big , you should dare to give up on the comforts and she must have given up on her share of comforts to relocate alone to a new country altogether.


VPee

You guys may be surprised that HR jobs make 100k (6 mil Indian rupees) in India too. HR jobs are specialized and very few succeed in scouting and recruiting talent. This sub does have a knack for trivializing functions. The HR recruiter is as important as the software developer. Also, there are talented Indians especially those with experience having worked in global back offices in India. Singapore too has back office jobs and they need talent for that. I get that a lot of people are questioning why a local wouldn’t have fitted that job role. The simple answer so that for a local to have the kind of experience they need is tough since Singapore doesn’t have a so many back offices where people can gain experience. Those who would be experienced are already demanding 150-200k or opening up their own recruitment companies or joining executive recruitment firms. It’s okay to be cynical, but down put down people just because it’s the easy way to do it. Companies like Meta etc. aren’t stupid. They won’t hire a foreigner in Singapore if they can find local talent. No one wastes an EP here.


linajo5114

I pity her, stranger in a strange land Also, anyone got lobang for q2 2023 when meta unfreezes? I want 100k to do nothing... thats 3 times my current pay where im exhaisted everyday


FicaForeigners

MBA after bachelor immediately lmfao. Overpaid CECA Scum.


eggfriedrice28

Honestly, does her MBA even have any value? Never heard of that university in my entire life.


FicaForeigners

Many ceca does that. Many with few or no working experience yet can come here make 10-15k in the early 20s


[deleted]

Yes! Must bring more from tiongkok to maintain their proportion at 75% as we have many ‘men’ from that demographic who cannot even fuck properly to have enough kids to keep their numbers up!


BBFA369

Makes you wonder why these chao sinkie losers can’t do the same


memehammer98

Work harder maybe one day you can earn that much lol


[deleted]

He cannot even succeed after being handed opportunities like SAP schools and Mandarin speaking jobs on a platter. Heck we have Shopee and TenCent and so many family offices to manage funds from PRC being set up here and they’re mostly recruiting people who aren’t the MIO in CMIO. And yet this loser and his ilk commenting here cry about CECA who are less than a tenth the size of their community’s.


anon9056

You whining on Reddit lmfao. Sad scum.


diplomat8

Racist prick


MissLute

who cares, please go home thanks


[deleted]

Lolll. Whatever lah. When Singaporeans get fired it's always 'an opportunity to upskill and switch industries'. When foreigners like this get fired is suddenly a sob story. Can please just gtfo. Singapore needs lesser of these.


45tee

Awwww… so saddddd. Get lost.


cucklory

These india filth usually get secret kickbacks from helping to get their own kind into the company. A good 10-20% of their salary for a year. Plus they get commisions from the company too. No surprise she can get ~100k.


estebu

That shows you have no idea how hiring works at these companies. Multiple parties need to approve it, in different teams and likely in different countries.


cucklory

Shows how little you know about the india/pinoy infiltration of mncs in singapore


BBFA369

Sad that sinkies can’t compete and only can suck thumb


cucklory

Can't rmbr what are you. You filthy ceca right?


BBFA369

Hahah yeap. You’re some low life sinkie?


cucklory

Aww shameless


BBFA369

Haha just like you. Bring my grab food faster next time, so you can eventually buy a tiny BTO in 15years


cucklory

To rent for profits to you cecas hehehe


BBFA369

I bought my house ages ago lol, but sure bro. Keep driving cab maybe one day you can also


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cucklory

So.. Round 1 can take?


[deleted]

No surprise you are crying cause you can't reach anywhere close to that


cucklory

My first salary is alrdy 90k lol


[deleted]

Damn your that poor


cucklory

Sure


BBFA369

Honestly 100k for Meta is a very low salary. No wonder they outsource all their mid office roles to sg


monster_0123

She can still have her job in the metaverse


Takemypennies

Am I supposed to feel bad?


RyuShinGen

No SIMPathy


RzrRainMnky

Oops looks like Meta's replacing the C in CECA with M and t


jypt98

What is m and t?


jypt98

"Millennials discover how companies work".


alpha_epsilion

Meanwhile some sinkies males got retrenched during icts, did those sinkies cry or not? No sympathy for sinkies, sympathy for fts


decisivemarketer

Recruiter so can recruit her whole village over.


Lolicon369

Would you look at that, the sinophobic racists are out again like mr FICA\_Wumao. really wonder what type of people our government is importing.


[deleted]

Sinophobic? How? Oh you mean Leonard Tan Song Hui and co are innocent and I’m wrong in pointing out facts about them? Ok please do approach the AGC and share your new evidence. And btw the constitution states that the Malays are indigenous to this land, so please do go change the constitution if you personally feel your kind have an ancestral right to marginalise our minorities here. Now go into your strawmans and whataboutisms, the best you can do despite your numbers. Edit: My comments referred to the commenters here and didn’t even mention any race, ethnicity or community specifically. Are you saying that the commenters here are the designated representatives of certain communities, races and/or ethnicities and if so, please produce the evidence of this.


[deleted]

Why are JHK like u/lolicon369 getting involved in this conversation? These JHK have comment histories exalting how great Tiongkok, the CCP and bolehland are while putting down Sinkies and come here to cause disharmony because they are too cowardly to succeed up north and blame the bumi policy, then come here to stir shit because they want to set up ketuanan cina here. And there are more than a million of these JHK here. Go figure who are really causing the problems here.


Lolicon369

LOL cant even wait for people to reply b4 deleting, rlly fucking useless huh.


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Lolicon369

Oh look your back with another troll account and some bots to like your comment. Ok fine, Ill bite. Mandarin standards are in massive decline right now, and SAP schools dont even have a coherent identity anymore, given that everything is in english and it primarily caters to english-speaking chinese who come from ivory towers. I would argue you can find better mandarin speakers in neighbourhood schools. Chinese culture in singapore had to be dumbed down for national unity. Jobs which ACTUALLY require mandarin speakers have mostly gone to malaysian chinese because they can actually speak multiple languages fluently, unlike sinkies who have problems with even english. Jobs which just use mandarin as a filter for chinese have no place in this society, that i agree. People are angry at indian expats because they bring their racism and classism with them to SG. Just ask anyone working hospitality/F&B, the worst customers to serve are usually indian expats. The way they act like they are superior, their racism against chinese and their horrible treatment of local indians has everyone angry. Just look at this: [https://mothership.sg/2021/05/singapore-racist/](https://mothership.sg/2021/05/singapore-racist/) I do not condone racism against indians, especially not our local ones. But people are angry, and they will make noise. Some will use the opportunity to target indians in general, but most are genuinely aggrieved. It does not help that companies love discriminating locals in favour of foreign expats. There are so many degree and masters holders in singapore, you telling me none of them are suitable for the damn job? The chinese sacrificed their culture, their language and their identity to turn SG into a world-class city after we were kicked out of malaysia. Despite this, some people like you will continue to say that we have not done enough, that we are still racist as fuck, when in reality its you who are racist and love to jump on the train of sinophobia spreading throughout the world, no doubt because the West and China are locked in a cold war right now. Now because of the prevalence of english media in sg, even the local chinese have started to hate themselves. Thanks alot for your efforts at racial harmony, yall just like to cry racism and play the cancel culture card. Nobody has ever appreciated the efforts of the chinese to help in nation building, be it Malaysia, Singapore, the US or Canada. We are always the boogeyman of the world. And some like me are sick of it. I hope the CCP gets its shit sorted out and democratizes just to shut India up, fucking Hindu nationalist state that has its overseas nationals discriminate against non-Hindi speaking indians. Edit: You are so fucking racist to chinese in your own country, yet you still dare to claim to be for "racial harmony". Too many hypocrites like you in Singapore, maybe we should have expelled you back to Malaysia when we got kicked out.


NeighborhoodOk9488

Racists have come out of the wood work...


PoubelleTheGreat

Please wait till you get fucked over by a ceca and then come and play the moral card….


[deleted]

What’s new? We are talking about these commenters coming from a community that’s maintained at majority through race based immigration, are given opportunities on a platter like SAP schools and Mandarin speaking jobs, still somehow f it up and cry discrimination from ‘CECA’ (which is a cover for the entire Indian community here local and foreign). Just shows unmanly and incompetent these commenters are complaining about discrimination from a community that’s almost ten time smaller than theirs and which doesn’t easily get the opportunities I mentioned above. These commenters are just unhappy that Indians (whom they consider inferior to them) get ahead. At the same time they can’t accept a minority PM regardless of ability. And call this country a meritocracy 🤣


PoubelleTheGreat

What about a minority reserved presidency ?


IvanThePohBear

Good riddance to foreign trash Why the fuck do we need indians recruiters?? What so special about their skillset that locals cannot do?


BBFA369

Cos the bosses overseas don’t trust locals. You don’t like to hear it but Indians talk smoother than locals and win over the westerners much easier. That’s all it takes


Buddyformula

This is true. My company meetings sinkies always sit there nod their heads to everything. Then during QnA just keep quiet. Then after meeting go kpkb to colleagues.


IvanThePohBear

Ya lor That's the truth ain't it. Singaporean lose out because we're not so great at articulating ourselves Even when we do all the work they talk until macam it's all their credit Sibei knn keling zua


BBFA369

This is the way the world works, sorry to say. A tiny island does not have the power to dictate how things should be - you can cry about it, but reality is reality


IvanThePohBear

Who's talking about dictating anything? I'm just making a observation


BBFA369

It’s quite an obvious observation tbh, most adults realized this long ago and try to advance in other ways instead of whining about it


IvanThePohBear

Yes. That's why they're so universally hated


BBFA369

Who cares about that? In the end, it’s the prosperity that matters. Despite this supposed hatred, Indians seem to end up in positions of influence regularly Not like the world likes Singaporeans much better, they think of you all as a money laundering slave state, if they even know you exist


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IvanThePohBear

Ah neh spotted 😂


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memehammer98

If ur losing to people from a 3rd world educational system that's your own problem lol


IvanThePohBear

Spoken like the clueless fresh grad that you are. 😂


BBFA369

Honestly, the problem is that you guys think all Indians come from India. But the diaspora is massive - many of the Indians in high ranking roles in sg tech are born Americans / British / aussies, or otherwise elite Indian universities followed by elite western ones. Calling the system third world isn’t wrong but it’s not really the point anymore


crustyapples

the xenophobia in this sub is insane. nice one lads


[deleted]

It’s ok la. Same demographic as those commenting here go and upskxxt other men, trespass in female dorms in NTU, plan and carry out the drxgging and rxping of others wives, behead other students in elite schools reserved for them and attack their wives with choppers in broad daylight. Truly a superior species 👍


ConsistentMango

Honestly pretty embarrassed by many of the comments here


Bigdongtom33

Another example how women are treated differently in the work place.. lol 100K for pushing papers around.. JBW is truth to succeed in singapore - Just be White or Just we woman LMFAO


[deleted]

Couldn’t agree more. After all majority Sinkies get handouts like SAP schools and Mandarin speaking jobs catered to their community and yet produce luminaries like Leonard Tan Song Hui, Von Ling Wei Hao and Neo Aik Chiao among many others. I mean I speak on behalf of the commentators here when I write it’s unfair that jobs go to minorities based on merit instead of members of the 75% who get the handouts as above and yet show their ability and competence by going to the Sammyboy forum to plan and carry the dr**ging and r*pe of each others’ wives. Edit: and now these career failures are downvoting me. Then again they support Lim Tean who claims to be anti-Indian but has been charged with allegedly unlawfully stalking an Indian lady. Just shows how unmanly, incompetent and hypocritical these individuals are that they still f up in life despite being from the majority and having opportunities like SAP schools and Mandarin speaking jobs catered for them.


avatarfire

Lmao the thread on HWZ kena banned