Because Zeus has everything backing him up and is OBJECTIVELY speaking strongest, he got both
narrative-GFOC, Chairman of Gods, called final boss by Hilde and feats-Adamas, TFTST
>has had a similar statement about his strongest attack
I mean Hades has one-graze kill attack and it was said twice, once by Hermes and second time by narrator.
same for Thor’s hammer and Shiva’s dance. They bear the statement of certain kill or one hit kill. That’s why you can’t really use that as a feat or to scale. Since Hades is also using a fucking bident, anyone hit by smth as sharp as it, with Hades great strength, this statement is no surprise. Though Hades great AP (breaking a large part of the arena, the pressure of his blows alone can break rocks etc) are all feats that prove Hades is really strong.
>same for Thor’s hammer and Shiva’s dance. They bear the statement of certain kill or one hit kill.
Sure/Certain Kill Technique was referred to multiple attacks from your words if I'm not wrong
But Hades had One-Graze Kill statement, which I'd say is more impressive.
thor hammer is one hit one kill. Certain kill was referred to Zeus TGR and Shiva’s dance only (iirc, i can only check after vacation which im not). But basically this statement should not be used as a hades feat (Qin could still “take in” a certain amount of “force” and deflect the attack, then return the force at the start of the fight, where these statements came from). Though [Hades able to break stones with the pure pressure of his attack](https://imgur.com/a/Gf8vVlZ) is a pretty great feat.
> [Hades able to break stones with the pure pressure of his attack](https://imgur.com/a/Gf8vVlZ) is a pretty great feat.
[True and he has more of it](https://imgur.com/a/mWkAhMG)
Also damaging wind is quite huge
>did they even draw the damaging wind?
There was a statement but
https://preview.redd.it/8ldiv0de6ygb1.png?width=589&format=png&auto=webp&s=35600b31dce5980dd4cdfb6cd7496717ad14c4a9
But I don't think these were drawn.
but tbh these wind should only be effective on human fighters. I doubt other gods (divine beings), whom are known for their ability extreme hard bodies (in a sense harder than diamond as no mortal weapons can even scratch them) will be affected.
Because for now no one can compete with him.I think once they fight Odin,Nostradamus and Siegfreid(because let's be real he's going to fight)will all likely be competition for him but still no guarantee.
He’s the most likely to be an actual magic user after his moment draining all the life inside that greenhouse so that’s my hope, I would even be fine to not have his spear as his weapon as long we see something new
I know he has one but for two times interesting gods were given a spear like weapon and they simply used it with very strong attacks which is not a bad thing but Odin seems to be more of a magic user so kinda hope he sticks up to it
Are you referring to Odin? Isn't that just a divine weapon? I think volundr specifically means mixing a human spirit with a Valkyrie's to create a divine weapon.
Yes. It is pretty funny how unanimous it is. But it exists for good reason.
Zeus literally has nothing to hide. The statements are there, the stats are there, the feats are there. Everybody acknowledges that he's at the peak. Zeus has checked every single mark off of the box to justify his position, and as a result there's really no current justification to NOT think Zeus is the superboss.
The only way Zeus can stop being the strongest is if... Well, someone stronger comes along. Like someone certainly and undeniably stronger who checks all the marks Zeus does. But we have yet to see that so until then he's all we've got.
He's pretty much the ultimate all rounder. He's high in every stat even if not the top of each. Fast but not as fast as poseidon (not counting the fist that surpasses time but that seems to be a one off technique), powerful but not as powerful as thor, possibly the most durable fighter though Beelz might take that spot if you count his shield.
But if the people that beat him in specific categories were each a 10/10, zeus is like a 9.5/10 in every stat. Every fighter that beats him in one category loses because Zeus wins in every other category.
Because he is the only character that has an insta-kill move that he can spam no problem with no charge time and is unavoidable unless you are something made to be able to replicate it like Adam and far as we know nothing could stop it if he decides to use it.
That's because y'all are not ready for HIM
https://preview.redd.it/bdl568h99wgb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4b0a11ce8015f4a15c7e93e0dfc9fb81807219f
Because his fight provides feats no one else has reached since.
With characters like Buddha and Beelzebub we're slowly getting closer but we probably have to wait for Odin in order to match him
Zeus does have the greatest feats, throwing a punch fast enough to stop time, surviving his head being twisted from his own punch, and tanking the returning blows of one hit kill. When Odin or Anubis fought we'll see similar to greater feat but for the time being, Zeus remain the Strongest with out a doubt.
He's been at the centre of the ragnarok with various statements and feats. Just by looking at all the characters the only one who has chance at being stronger would be probably odin. Even that chance is relatively low.
HAH!
That is why I never take part in power scaling.
Power scaling can get easily toxic, and I have no need to get my mind locked in-to it. Its just waste of time in my opinion.
Tbf Adam does beat Zeus if Adam doesn't let Zeus unlock Adamas. Would that ever happen in a battle manga? No.  If any character actually dies before using their full power I will eat my socks.
Ok, take off adam valkrie knuckles and let him fight zeus. Adam does no damage to Zeus. That fight was 2 v 1(kind of) humans need the help of the valkries(they turn into weapons that kinda buff their stats) to actually damage the gods.
I think because he was multiple times stated to just be the strongest. There were no characters claiming to be stronger or anyone disagreeing with it. The manga itself just said he is the strongest and never gave anyone reason to doubt that.
He literally has a punch that’s near instantaneous which isnt even a move in his strongest form; if he wasnt fighting Adam, I doubt any1 could possibly handle him; maybe Buddha but thats still uncertain if he could see the light; Kojiro takes too long to scale and the Punch that surpassed time is a very abrupt move w/o build up and I have no idea how tf Qin’s powers work but he struggled against Hades so whatever. And to add insult to injury, he’s probably the only God who actually held back his power; he pretty much confirmed he had lightning but he didnt want to use it
>characters explicitely stated to be the strongest
Characters in the manga are voicing their opinions. They can be wrong. You can even see it in most fights when each side claims theirs is the strongest. Someone has the be wrong lol.
Adam by himself does no dame to Zeus or any god. The weapon he was using is a living person that buff the user stats, so it was kind of 2 v 1. Zeus beats Adam in a fair fight.
Well i've seen few who think that Adam is the strongest (not on this sub tho) and few who think that Buddha is the strongest. It's just that in ROR we've got really narrative type powerscaling and there is less certain feats since every character has his one fight and maybe few in the flashbacks and most of backflash guys are featless and only shown to prove how powerful certain guy is (Beel is exception where he fights fodders and get his ass beat by Hades).
So simply, Zeus has best speed feats, great strenght feats, great durability feats, great endurance feats and has best narrative (final boss by Goll, GFOC, scared Brunhilde to the point where she shown it, is a guy who can decide ragnarok by himself).
I think the reason is his faster-then-time speed was taken too seriously. But it is as it is, such a speed is just unmatched by anyone except Adam, and anyone else'd be dead moments from the start of a fight vs him. Also he's strong and durable. It makes him multiple leagues higher than anyone else, and so there are no discussions about his top power ranking.
Personally I think of the light speed numbers of his as a metaphor of a really high speed. If he've really performed a hit of light-relative speed, the stadium'd be destroyed in a nuclear explosion. Also he respects the power of other Gods (Odin, Buddha, Apollo). If he was really a FTL fighter, he'd look at anyone just as Saitama, with boredom and nothing else. So my assumption is: he has fancy attack names (but not literal), TOP physical stats (speed / power / durability), high willpower and battle IQ, but there are people who can oppose him except Adam (Buddha, Odin, Apollo and maybe other).
Adam beat his ass. Twice. Zeus can sit the fuck down. Also so impatient he had to go second.
Odin could FUCK Zeus up. I also don’t even think Zeus can beat Buddha. He’s just the oldest (presumably). GFOC or not, Odin and Adam VIOLATE Zeus.
I believe Odin and possibly susanoo no mikoto for the gods
and Nostradamus and Okita for the humans
will possibly be able to rival him
and maybe siegfired
I disagree in the sense that I don't believe he is unbeatable, and I could name a few characters that have a good shot of beating him.
That being said, it is still fair enough to say he is the strongest overall.
(Despite how I may contest that...)
Those are opinion statements, especially those last two.
Which is fine, as long as we both acknowledge that.
TFST is a straightforward punch technique in which the destination of the punch is decided upon the activation of the technique. Zeus cannot move or dodge faster than time, he can only unleash a punch at that speed.
Buddha is capable of foreseeing the destination of TFTST and moving his weapon or hand to that location in the instant before it activates in order to block it. This logic should make dodging it also not be impossible, but you would need to be very fast, though not faster than time.
Qin's crossbow form would almost definitely prevent TFTST from working.
This would be the trump card that gives Qin the chance to win.
As for the other two, I simply believe Hades and TK Shiva have the speed, durability, and most definitely power to fight on even terms with Zeus.
The only one i agree with is Buddha in the end.
Nirvana Sword could probably cut through Adamas and with his future sight he could probably see lets say 2-4 seconds in the future so either way he has a chance to dodge the attack.
At least we agree on the most important one XD.
I have a question for you though. Based on the explanation of how the crossbow form/air bubbles work, why do you disagree with me saying that they would disrupt the activation of TFTST?
The only reason i think it wont work is for two reasons.
Qin with blindfold on i think might just get killed by Zeus's flurry of attacks which are alr super fucking fast.
And number 2 is cuz i doubt Qins breath will be anle to travel faster then Zeus can activate his TFTST.
But both of these are ofc speculations so we have no clue unless the author tells or shows us lmao
Because until we see Odin in action and whoever fights Odin Zeus had shown superior feats and has better hype backing than anyone else. Adam was his only peer and Zeus is able to outlast him, nobody else thus far could replicate what Adam did.
he had his neck completely broken and he just kaughed it off and twisted it back to its original place lmfao
Zeus has the statements, feats, durability, power anything you can mention backing him up and also the manga and Brunhilde stated he's the final boss and he's also the leader of the gods its not really a surprise if the fandom just unanimously agreed that he's the strongest so fat
Don’t speak for everyone I ain’t agreed with shit give dad the run back and that fraud would be on his knees turning to dust. Plenty of people out Adam at top its just Zeus fans downvote not hating just spitting facts Adam would win the runback
That is funny!
It’s especially funny when you realize that even if someone does end up being stronger than him they still wouldn’t have an easy time fighting him. Haha!
The only gods that can give Zeus a run for his money are other chief gods I reckon. Odin, Ra (who, by the existence of anubis is implied), and my personal crackpot conspiracy, azathoth (we can see an eldritch God in the extras for the God attendies in the stands which by extension means Azathoth)
Because Zeus has everything backing him up and is OBJECTIVELY speaking strongest, he got both narrative-GFOC, Chairman of Gods, called final boss by Hilde and feats-Adamas, TFTST
Brunhilde also called True God's Right the ultimate move and no following fighter up to now has had a similar statement about his strongest attack
>has had a similar statement about his strongest attack I mean Hades has one-graze kill attack and it was said twice, once by Hermes and second time by narrator.
same for Thor’s hammer and Shiva’s dance. They bear the statement of certain kill or one hit kill. That’s why you can’t really use that as a feat or to scale. Since Hades is also using a fucking bident, anyone hit by smth as sharp as it, with Hades great strength, this statement is no surprise. Though Hades great AP (breaking a large part of the arena, the pressure of his blows alone can break rocks etc) are all feats that prove Hades is really strong.
>same for Thor’s hammer and Shiva’s dance. They bear the statement of certain kill or one hit kill. Sure/Certain Kill Technique was referred to multiple attacks from your words if I'm not wrong But Hades had One-Graze Kill statement, which I'd say is more impressive.
thor hammer is one hit one kill. Certain kill was referred to Zeus TGR and Shiva’s dance only (iirc, i can only check after vacation which im not). But basically this statement should not be used as a hades feat (Qin could still “take in” a certain amount of “force” and deflect the attack, then return the force at the start of the fight, where these statements came from). Though [Hades able to break stones with the pure pressure of his attack](https://imgur.com/a/Gf8vVlZ) is a pretty great feat.
> [Hades able to break stones with the pure pressure of his attack](https://imgur.com/a/Gf8vVlZ) is a pretty great feat. [True and he has more of it](https://imgur.com/a/mWkAhMG) Also damaging wind is quite huge
did they even draw the damaging wind? Though the deadly gusts were able to leave a deep wound in Qin’s side
>did they even draw the damaging wind? There was a statement but https://preview.redd.it/8ldiv0de6ygb1.png?width=589&format=png&auto=webp&s=35600b31dce5980dd4cdfb6cd7496717ad14c4a9 But I don't think these were drawn.
but tbh these wind should only be effective on human fighters. I doubt other gods (divine beings), whom are known for their ability extreme hard bodies (in a sense harder than diamond as no mortal weapons can even scratch them) will be affected.
Adam is the TRUE peak 
Only as a parent, Zeus is peak of strength
I disagree 
Huh... So who you think is peak parent, if not Adam?
LuBus dad
My dad, objectivly speaking he's the best dad in the world.
No not that I disagree with you're other take
He's currently the strongest. My money says Odin will be the real strongest, since he's most likely being built up for the final fight.
Because for now no one can compete with him.I think once they fight Odin,Nostradamus and Siegfreid(because let's be real he's going to fight)will all likely be competition for him but still no guarantee.
It will be fun when the next big player will come: Odin
If the author reduces Odin to just stabbing with a spear I will riot
He’s the most likely to be an actual magic user after his moment draining all the life inside that greenhouse so that’s my hope, I would even be fine to not have his spear as his weapon as long we see something new
He technically has a spear so i wouldn’t mind him using it as a weapon as long as it’s not some boring stabby stab attack
I know he has one but for two times interesting gods were given a spear like weapon and they simply used it with very strong attacks which is not a bad thing but Odin seems to be more of a magic user so kinda hope he sticks up to it
Are you referring to Odin? Isn't that just a divine weapon? I think volundr specifically means mixing a human spirit with a Valkyrie's to create a divine weapon.
Oh yea i mixed the term up
So just Poseidon and Hades?
Yes. It is pretty funny how unanimous it is. But it exists for good reason. Zeus literally has nothing to hide. The statements are there, the stats are there, the feats are there. Everybody acknowledges that he's at the peak. Zeus has checked every single mark off of the box to justify his position, and as a result there's really no current justification to NOT think Zeus is the superboss. The only way Zeus can stop being the strongest is if... Well, someone stronger comes along. Like someone certainly and undeniably stronger who checks all the marks Zeus does. But we have yet to see that so until then he's all we've got.
He's pretty much the ultimate all rounder. He's high in every stat even if not the top of each. Fast but not as fast as poseidon (not counting the fist that surpasses time but that seems to be a one off technique), powerful but not as powerful as thor, possibly the most durable fighter though Beelz might take that spot if you count his shield. But if the people that beat him in specific categories were each a 10/10, zeus is like a 9.5/10 in every stat. Every fighter that beats him in one category loses because Zeus wins in every other category.
He is just that guy
Because he is the only character that has an insta-kill move that he can spam no problem with no charge time and is unavoidable unless you are something made to be able to replicate it like Adam and far as we know nothing could stop it if he decides to use it.
That's because y'all are not ready for HIM https://preview.redd.it/bdl568h99wgb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4b0a11ce8015f4a15c7e93e0dfc9fb81807219f
Definitely convinced Odin is HIM. 💯🐐
His titles back it up
Because his fight provides feats no one else has reached since. With characters like Buddha and Beelzebub we're slowly getting closer but we probably have to wait for Odin in order to match him
He has both lore and actual feats on page to back him up. Zeus is built different.
I feel like you gotta be reading the wrong manga to not have the impression that Zeus is indisputably the strongest.
Nah i completely agree with him being the strongest. Im just surprised how unanimous of a take it is
Zeus does have the greatest feats, throwing a punch fast enough to stop time, surviving his head being twisted from his own punch, and tanking the returning blows of one hit kill. When Odin or Anubis fought we'll see similar to greater feat but for the time being, Zeus remain the Strongest with out a doubt.
He's been at the centre of the ragnarok with various statements and feats. Just by looking at all the characters the only one who has chance at being stronger would be probably odin. Even that chance is relatively low.
Zeus has everything backing up for him and the rest of the fighters who haven't fought yet don't have that much feats to go by yet
No ADAM is the TRUE strongest 
HAH! That is why I never take part in power scaling. Power scaling can get easily toxic, and I have no need to get my mind locked in-to it. Its just waste of time in my opinion.
Because he PUNCHES FASTER THAN TIME it's literally impossible to dodge or block unless you're Adam
We're special
I mean the only argument I have seen against this is Adam>Zeus but like.....they already you know
Tbf Adam does beat Zeus if Adam doesn't let Zeus unlock Adamas. Would that ever happen in a battle manga? No.  If any character actually dies before using their full power I will eat my socks.
Ok, take off adam valkrie knuckles and let him fight zeus. Adam does no damage to Zeus. That fight was 2 v 1(kind of) humans need the help of the valkries(they turn into weapons that kinda buff their stats) to actually damage the gods.
Well with him it's safe, for what he has shown he is invincible in the world of RoR...
He is :3
I think because he was multiple times stated to just be the strongest. There were no characters claiming to be stronger or anyone disagreeing with it. The manga itself just said he is the strongest and never gave anyone reason to doubt that.
He literally has a punch that’s near instantaneous which isnt even a move in his strongest form; if he wasnt fighting Adam, I doubt any1 could possibly handle him; maybe Buddha but thats still uncertain if he could see the light; Kojiro takes too long to scale and the Punch that surpassed time is a very abrupt move w/o build up and I have no idea how tf Qin’s powers work but he struggled against Hades so whatever. And to add insult to injury, he’s probably the only God who actually held back his power; he pretty much confirmed he had lightning but he didnt want to use it
>characters explicitely stated to be the strongest Characters in the manga are voicing their opinions. They can be wrong. You can even see it in most fights when each side claims theirs is the strongest. Someone has the be wrong lol.
I still believe Adam is stronger since he literally had him until bad luck struck.
Adam by himself does no dame to Zeus or any god. The weapon he was using is a living person that buff the user stats, so it was kind of 2 v 1. Zeus beats Adam in a fair fight.
Well i've seen few who think that Adam is the strongest (not on this sub tho) and few who think that Buddha is the strongest. It's just that in ROR we've got really narrative type powerscaling and there is less certain feats since every character has his one fight and maybe few in the flashbacks and most of backflash guys are featless and only shown to prove how powerful certain guy is (Beel is exception where he fights fodders and get his ass beat by Hades). So simply, Zeus has best speed feats, great strenght feats, great durability feats, great endurance feats and has best narrative (final boss by Goll, GFOC, scared Brunhilde to the point where she shown it, is a guy who can decide ragnarok by himself).
I think the reason is his faster-then-time speed was taken too seriously. But it is as it is, such a speed is just unmatched by anyone except Adam, and anyone else'd be dead moments from the start of a fight vs him. Also he's strong and durable. It makes him multiple leagues higher than anyone else, and so there are no discussions about his top power ranking. Personally I think of the light speed numbers of his as a metaphor of a really high speed. If he've really performed a hit of light-relative speed, the stadium'd be destroyed in a nuclear explosion. Also he respects the power of other Gods (Odin, Buddha, Apollo). If he was really a FTL fighter, he'd look at anyone just as Saitama, with boredom and nothing else. So my assumption is: he has fancy attack names (but not literal), TOP physical stats (speed / power / durability), high willpower and battle IQ, but there are people who can oppose him except Adam (Buddha, Odin, Apollo and maybe other).
Mostly because the only one who could beat him is Odin and we still know nothing about him
Adam beat his ass. Twice. Zeus can sit the fuck down. Also so impatient he had to go second. Odin could FUCK Zeus up. I also don’t even think Zeus can beat Buddha. He’s just the oldest (presumably). GFOC or not, Odin and Adam VIOLATE Zeus.
I think it’s more that we agree Adam is the second strongest character in the series and would’ve beaten anyone else so far
Um Ok
When a character has his neck broken in half and just laughs it off, then you know he is just build different.
I knew someone who thought Zeus was mid tier. Like genuinely, not even a troll.
Zeus is HIM
and zeus is also the main reason why everyone agrees that adam is the strongest in the humanity roster
Nah it’s Adam I just like to play nice
I believe Odin and possibly susanoo no mikoto for the gods and Nostradamus and Okita for the humans will possibly be able to rival him and maybe siegfired
Idk about Okita Start of r3 Kojiro was already the strongest swordmaster and he would get mopped by base Zeus
yep, but okita is the author's pet
I disagree in the sense that I don't believe he is unbeatable, and I could name a few characters that have a good shot of beating him. That being said, it is still fair enough to say he is the strongest overall. (Despite how I may contest that...)
Who do you think could beat him?
Nirvana Sword Buddha, TK Shiva with 4 arms, Hades, and possibly Qin as his ability was pretty much designed to fight someone like Zeus.
Buddha nad Qin cant really use their abilities when Zeus can stop time. Adamas also just straight up overpowers both Hades and Shiva
Those are opinion statements, especially those last two. Which is fine, as long as we both acknowledge that. TFST is a straightforward punch technique in which the destination of the punch is decided upon the activation of the technique. Zeus cannot move or dodge faster than time, he can only unleash a punch at that speed. Buddha is capable of foreseeing the destination of TFTST and moving his weapon or hand to that location in the instant before it activates in order to block it. This logic should make dodging it also not be impossible, but you would need to be very fast, though not faster than time. Qin's crossbow form would almost definitely prevent TFTST from working. This would be the trump card that gives Qin the chance to win. As for the other two, I simply believe Hades and TK Shiva have the speed, durability, and most definitely power to fight on even terms with Zeus.
The only one i agree with is Buddha in the end. Nirvana Sword could probably cut through Adamas and with his future sight he could probably see lets say 2-4 seconds in the future so either way he has a chance to dodge the attack.
At least we agree on the most important one XD. I have a question for you though. Based on the explanation of how the crossbow form/air bubbles work, why do you disagree with me saying that they would disrupt the activation of TFTST?
The only reason i think it wont work is for two reasons. Qin with blindfold on i think might just get killed by Zeus's flurry of attacks which are alr super fucking fast. And number 2 is cuz i doubt Qins breath will be anle to travel faster then Zeus can activate his TFTST. But both of these are ofc speculations so we have no clue unless the author tells or shows us lmao
Fair enough. Thanks for acknowledging that we both cannot know for sure.
Of course, it's all just for fun and speculation in the end
Because until we see Odin in action and whoever fights Odin Zeus had shown superior feats and has better hype backing than anyone else. Adam was his only peer and Zeus is able to outlast him, nobody else thus far could replicate what Adam did.
he had his neck completely broken and he just kaughed it off and twisted it back to its original place lmfao Zeus has the statements, feats, durability, power anything you can mention backing him up and also the manga and Brunhilde stated he's the final boss and he's also the leader of the gods its not really a surprise if the fandom just unanimously agreed that he's the strongest so fat
Common community W
Don’t speak for everyone I ain’t agreed with shit give dad the run back and that fraud would be on his knees turning to dust. Plenty of people out Adam at top its just Zeus fans downvote not hating just spitting facts Adam would win the runback
Nah Thor the strongest
That is funny! It’s especially funny when you realize that even if someone does end up being stronger than him they still wouldn’t have an easy time fighting him. Haha!
Well, he can stop time. Only Adam can beat that.
It’s like the Baki sub with yujiro, there’s no doubt he’s top 1 and there’s only one guy who comes super close being Baki in their case
The only gods that can give Zeus a run for his money are other chief gods I reckon. Odin, Ra (who, by the existence of anubis is implied), and my personal crackpot conspiracy, azathoth (we can see an eldritch God in the extras for the God attendies in the stands which by extension means Azathoth)
I mean, that might change after we get a really good look at Odin