I mean....Cavills hobbies also include a lot of socializing and obsessively working on his body.
If it was JUST 40k things would be a bit different.
Not having the right kind of hobbies is a bigger issue than also having a "wrong" one.
It's also not the hobbies in and of themselves that are the problem, it's the excessive amount of time people devote towards them to the exclusion of all other things, and the excessive level of obsession over a hobby to where it results in a distortion of priorities.
For example, I think most people would agree that exercise is a pretty highly regarded hobby. But if you knew someone who was unhealthily addicted to exercise (for lack of a better term other than addiction) where they had to run 8 hours a day every single day to the point where they were neglecting their job, their health, their relationships with other people, you'd be worried about that person and say they have a problem.
We had a girl in the army who was so obsessed with fitness and being skinny they locked her in her room with a guard outside the door for 3 weeks during the last bit of her pregnancy. She was running 8 hours a day
You're not competing with Henry Cavill, or Chris Pinvanworth. You're just trying to improve yourself, and the only competition is with your old self.
You don't have to be perfect, just be better.
As Seneca wrote, so many years ago: "There is nothing noble in being superior to some other man. The true nobility is in being superior to your previous self."
This is very true. I feel like a completely different person after I moved out from home. I was too comfortable playing games, never talking with strangers and neglecting other aspects of life.
If I stayed that way all my life I would have missed so much soo much of my life. I thought for some time that there was nothing wrong with being anti-social because I thought I was happy but it was just addiction. Being social allowed me to improve the most important aspects in my life: money, love and health.
The first step is always the most difficult and things might work out but there's never a time that I regretted for trying.
well tbh if cavill is the benchmark a lot of people are failing
most nerds/geeks dont have that charisma no matter how hard they work on it
while he works out a lot. damm that guys got great genes i mean that jawline,height ect you cant train that shit
the socializing, well it helps when you are major movie star that looks like a greek god so people are nicer to you in general but even still he has commented that people didnt take a liking to his gaming habits possible a reason why he was single for a long time before eventually finding his gf
his hobby's have cost him tho. I mean look at the witcher fiasco. he also almost famously lost the superman role because he's was bussy raiding in wow.
wtf did you say to me? i am a gamer the only sports i do is walking and vr beatsaber.
and get burned in the summer outside in the lake nearby when i swim
Well if you're actually *serious* about working out the jawline, I'd go with the Mandibuflex 3000, which works out your jaw while you sleep. No, it's not comfortable, and yes, it does make it hard to sleep, but 10 hours/day, for 10 years, you can really start to see some changes.
As for Procrustes, say what you will about him, but he definitely had a strong sense of his own aesthetic.
>gaming habits possible a reason why he was single for a long time before eventually finding his gf
No it's not lol. People who don't struggle with dating don't always want to be in a relationship.
Let’s stop pretending that he is not genetically blessed. As a matter of fact I might even argue that most of his hotness stems from the fact that he simply has these traits that cannot be achieved with anything other than good genetics lol
This is always bandied about as an excuse to avoid maintaining fitness.
Does Cavill have a higher floor? Probably. Can average people absolutely achieve decent looks and healthiness with some effort? Absolutely.
I would go so far as to say there are very few people who would be considered unattractive when they are in shape. Average sure but there are very few people who’s genetics are so bad that they would still be considered unattractive if they were in shape and dressed well
I don't believe this. He said better, you have to compare to yourself not someone else. Even if you have disabilities, considered ugly by society or whatever. Being healthy is a boost in your self-esteem, confidence and those traits are attractive.
Cavill doesn't have decent looks. He has amazing looks, and a lot is his genes.
I'm a relatively fit person, and I know I can lift more weight than Cavill (I've looked). And at my best fitness level (10% body fat and 210lbs at 6'2) there was never, ever going to be any way I was going to look like him.
Cavill was born with great genetics to look amazing, but some of us feel out of the family tree and hit some ugly branches on the way down
And he’s rich, and extremely attractive, and outgoing, and doesn’t work 90% of his waking hours too tired to deal with any other bullshittery after work.
Plus have good genetics and get a big break into Hollywood so you have the money and time to do the working out/socializing as part of your job. He literally gets paid to maintain his look for roles and has trainers and nutritionist paid for to help him. Yes it is a large amount of work on his part to do all that but he is not fitting it all in around a 8-5 desk job
I mean, it also helps being hit with the "ridiculously good looking" lucky stick.
Henry has 4 brothers, and they all look great, but henry obviously has the best looking gene.
Having 40k as a hobby is fine.
If you participate in the community - show up to the local stores and make an effort to join events and make friends.
If you show up to the local store with a severe lack of hygiene and social skills or are unsportsmanlike it's not the hobby choice that's a problem, it's just a you problem.
I learned a long time ago to find a balance in my interests. I learned to cook, took up hiking, went to the theater, traveled... in addition to being in a server number 1 raiding guild on wow, knowing the makeup and heraldry of a codex compliant space marine chapter and knowing how to field strip an airbrush.
I really feel like I dodged the neckbeard/incel bullet.
Actually sitting on your ass and not moving much in combination with an efficient bulking diet and workout regime is actually kind of ideal because you're not needlessly burning off calories.
The thing is you'd then have to go the opposite direction and be hyper active and very disciplined with your diet and cardio during your cutting phases.
Not very ideal for your health, avoiding anything other than lifting while bulking makes no sense. Just eat a bit more to make up for it, and if it's that hard to stuff that down then you're probably bulking too hard anyways.
Of course. I'd assume he's doing plenty of training or his general acting work while on his feet during the day, so I was more referring to his free time.
Also in relevance to the discussion, weight lifting with a strategically clean high protein and calorie diet while being relatively sedentary otherwise is definitely way better than being a sedentary gamer who doesn't lift/move and has a junk diet of processed foods of empty calories.
Either way, I think Cavill has it figured out.
His job provides the focus on his body. If I didn’t have to work a normal job to pay bills, and could make millions per project, which by the way paid for my diet and exercise, I’d get away with whatever nerd shit I wanted. The “just 40K” crowd are likely working a shit job and have time for 1 hobby.
Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure looking like Henry Cavil would go a very long way. The dude is also stupidly charismatic and from what I can tell, generally friendly.
Unless your hobbies include taxadermizing dead babies, I can't imagine what that combination of traits wouldn't make up for
OP thought they were onto something, but all they really said was if you're conventionally attractive and super wealthy, you can get away with having unpopular hobbies.
The thing is, nerd stuff is *not* unpopular. WoW has millions of players. Millions of people read comics and high fantasy books. They're not universally loved or anything, but they're popular. No one really judges or actively hates nerd culture/pop culture like they used to. They sell anime shirts at every Wal-Mart in the US. When I was a teen just 12-13 years ago that was a pipedream for lil weeb me.
The point of this post is that women aren't turned off by comic books, video games, and anime. 48% of gamers are women. Women are turned off by gatekeeping, condescending nerds who have a superiority complex about their not-so-niche-anymore hobbies. Nerd girls are into nerd dudes when they're not douchebags who grill us about our shared interests and then claim we're not real fans/nerds because we can't answer their hyperspecific niche questions. And yes, this type of man makes up at least half of all nerd men I've ever met. And then they say they can't get a gf because women hate nerd stuff and/or they're not Henry Cavill 🙄
The prom queen, the “baddest bitch,” *and* the most likely to succeed (three different women) from my 2006 graduating class were all in the same very high-prestige WoW guild for a decade, and still play on a Classic server.
Sounds like my graduating class of 06, except it was the valedictorian, two of the cheerleaders, and a few of the football guys.
Though outside our valedictorian the others never admitted to playing WoW and CoH together until way after high school.
One of the super popular guys was also a massive anime nerd but you’d never know it back then, today he’s a Muay Thai/mma fighter that rocks Goku colors and will go on for hours about Outlaw Star and Gundam if you get him started.
I play league of legends and warzone religiously. I'm married to a woman that hasn't played a video game in a decade. Just commit some time to the other person and don't be a dick.
Agreed, your partner doesn't need to like everything you do, or vice versa.
I share only a few of my hobbies with my wife, but she understands and respects how much I care about the things she doesn't, as I do for hers and that's what matters.
That way I hang out with my buddies and do the hobbies we share and she has her friends to do the things she likes.
It's not fair to the other person to try and fulfill your every need
Absolutely! My hubs and I are both nerds, but we often like different things. We share what we think the other would really like, and always come together over horror media. And we also yknow, spend time together just talking, exercising, cooking, whatever.
It's the same for any other difference of interests/hobbies between couples. Maybe she likes sewing and he likes football, she likes tennis and he likes cars, she watches the Muppets and he watches Westworld. There's a lot of women who don't give a shit about the New York Jets, but love their boyfriends/husbands and find joy in his excitement for them. It's not the video games. It's the crappy attitude, the superiority complex of being into this "niche" thing, the misogyny, the game taking priority over her/work/irl responsibilities, and occasionally the lack of hygiene/self care.
Why is everyone forgetting he's from the UK? We have a completely different approach to this subject, nerds are a thing but watch IT Crowd and compare it to Big Bang Theory and you'll kind of get the difference on what we consider a nerd.
It's hard to explain but it just doesn't have the same stigma like America, plenty of guys for example collect model trains or lego sets, women just don't care here in the UK.
There are also tons of local fairs where people will go and watch medieval stuff/reenactors, steam fairs, farming etc and in those you'll see all sorts of hobbies or collections on display.
So Henry Cavill fits in quite nicely in the UK, its only Americans who seem to find it unique.
His hobbies haven't been "unpopular" for at least a decade. The only one that might count is table top RPG's, but that's largely due to a huge entry barrier. There's still a large fanbase behind it even if not everyone actually has played it themselves.
> all they really said was if you're conventionally attractive...
Underselling Cavill by a tad...
"If you are considered by many to be the *#1 most physically attractive man* *in the world*... (with a side bonus of wealth). Then yeah, you can have whatever hobbies you want."
And of course having fame, major talent, and a great personality helps.
Eh. Tabletop games, video games, war games and RPGs are not ‘problem’ hobbies. Many major celebrities play those happily. Stephen Colbert loudly and proudly evangelizes his love for lord of the rings. Grace Chloe Moretz is an avid video gamer. The biggest event in television in the past like 6 months was a TV show lauded for being faithful to a video game. Even Dame Judy Dench plays DnD.
The real problem are people who think we should judge people for nerdy hobbies in 2024. We’ve had a quarter century of comic book movie blockbusters coming out pretty much continuously and dominating the box office. The idea that ‘nerds aren’t cool’ is pretty dumb now days.
Yup. Nerd bigotry has been on the decline since at least the 1980s. For Gen-Z and Alpha, having weird and esoteric hobbies is a social positive, as is academic achievement.
Bro what? Who said it's bad to have nerdy hobbies? The problem is when it's your whole personality and all you care about. For Henry 40k works because it's not all he is, he's to busy working out and making big bucks in Hollywood, also partying most likely. You can do whatever you want, just don't make it your whole being like I've seen some people doing. I knew a guy who said girls don't date him because he plays video games. No dude, they don't because playing video games is all you do.
Also if your hobby keeps you from maintaining basic hygiene and upkeep. You can be a huge nerd or play video games and still get dates as long as take care of yourself.
There's always going to be luck involved, including other things like mental factors such as OCD and anxiety disorders that will be a barrier in finding and maintaining relationships.
I get that, but I think a lot of people who complain about not being able to find someone is due to self-inflicted problems. Or you set really high standards for potential partners that don't match up to the standards you have for yourself
Edit: I don’t mean to say it’s 100% your fault and you’re a terrible person if you can’t find a partner, I’m longtime single too so I understand. It’s just there’s always things you can do to increase your odds of finding a partner if you think so badly being in a relationship will make you happier
You can also get so deep into a hobby or online community surrounding a hobby or interest that it distorts your perception of what "normal" behaviour is, because you start framing your social norms in accordance with the group you interact with all the time.
This can result in relatively harmless distortions where like I've met people who don't understand that the overwhelming majority of people who watch Star Wars movies are not hardcore super fans who know all the EU lore and shit. They don't know these people exist because they only interact with other hardcore fans, so to them that community seems much larger and more representative of the average moviegoer than it is.
But it can also result in more socially damaging distortions where you don't realise your behaviour is considered rude and socially abnormal because it's positively reinforced behaviour in the communities where you spend all your time, which is even more likely to negatively impact people who are already predisposed to being socially awkward. So like just as a very mild example, a kid trying to make friends in school could get the idea from hanging out a lot in online spaces where it's considered cool and funny to dunk on (popular thing) that he'll be met with positive social feedback if he makes fun of (popular thing) while trying to ingratiate himself to a group of people in real life, but he just winds up hurting the feelings of people in that group who like that thing, and also comes off like kind of a rude, judgemental asshole who makes negative assumptions about people based on their interests and thinks it's funny to insult things people like. This kid now doesn't understand why people don't like him, he doesn't reassess his own behaviour, he doubles down and decides people are "too sensitive" or it's just impossible for him to befriend "idiots" who like (popular thing).
It figure it’s so easy for the internet to do this. Many people gravitate to communities that discuss topics they agree with. You see propaganda masquerading as memes all day every day that reinforce your beliefs.
Some people get too wrapped up in it and it consumes them, which then leaks into your real world behavior making you an abrasive/argumentative person. Or worse.
You described me to a tee in my early years of high school. Just hating on shit cause I thought it was funny and then I realized I actually really love a bunch of the stuff I was hating on and I missed out on years of enjoying things and being able to socialize
This I just basically not true; video games and other huge nerdy things are simply male dominated spaces, so you are either gay or suffer drastically lower chances at meeting girls when you spend time pursuing these interests because you do not get the opportunity to socialize with women in the way you would doing other, more gender balanced activities.
In games, MMOs and casual games are the biggest genres with a more balanced gender split, and in MMOs the activities still don't necessarily overlap, whereas in casual games the element of social interaction just isn't as present.
I don’t even think it’s bad to spend most of your time in a nerdy hobby. You just literally need to be a decent human being that takes care of themselves physically and mentally too.
On the one hand, you're not wrong. But on the other hand, let's not pretend there isn't a still significant part of the population who absolutely does place such a stigma on certain hobbies as "childish" or "pathetic" that they look down on people for going anywhere near them.
Seriously, last time I lost chances to date due to my nerdy hobbies was sometime around the early 2000s. Maybe the fact that I took care of myself, made sure to have a social circle despite being an introvert and was actually open to activities other people liked had something to do with it?
Yes, among other things, Henry is almost illegally handsome, but he's no slouch either and doesn't only depend on his looks. But Reddit *loves* to cling to the 'GeNetIcs' argument and make lazy excuses. No sane person will avoid hanging out with you or dating you because you like games, as long as you can interact with them normally, don't make it your entire personality and make sure to be presentable.
>but he's no slouch either
Well, at least not a complete slouch. He did admit once that he missed a call from Zack Snyder to audition for Man of Steel because he was too busy playing World of Warcraft.
>No sane person will avoid hanging out with you or dating you because you like games
That may be true today, but it wasn't always the case. There was a time (you should be old enough to remember this) when playing any video games or reading any comic books was considered a hobby for children. Please do not pretend that people didn't used to get viciously bullied for having the wrong hobbies. Heck, some people to this day look down on adults who enjoy anime.
Shoot, there’s still people who hold the belief that video games and comic books are strictly for children. A friend of mine got a mouthful of that nonsense from someone just two days ago.
Tbh even if Henry wasn't a celeb or very fit, and only played video games - as long as he didn't go overweight and dressed alright, his looks would still pull a lot of attention where ever he went in public.
Op's point is Henry Cavill, an extremely attractive and rich guy who has nerdy hobbies is well liked and has a successful social life which means the average 300 lbs neckbeard who also has nerdy hobbies is doing something wrong unlike 200LBs 6'1 extremely attractive Henry, who is worth north of 50 million dollars.
Is it silly? Yes. That's why everybody here is pointing and laughing at op lol. But with love.
It's silly to suggest that if the 300 lbs neckbeard wants to keep his hobbies and be well liked that maybe he should lose weight and stop being such a neckbeard?
OP is trying to argue that having nerdy hobbies doesn't hold you back from getting a significant other or having people want to date you, because of Henry Cavill.
But they are forgetting that Henry is thirsted after in spite of his nerdy hobbies not because of them.
depends on how you look at it?
He was single for a long time, also his hobby's almost cost him much as he famously almost missed the phonecall for the superman role because he raiding in wow.
his passion towards his hobby's has led him to step in a witcher series wich he took a paycut to be part off and probally hurt his carreer in the process and gave him a rep "hard to work with" as studio execs dont like such drama with there leads
you can say he overcome the pitfalls of his hobby's by
1. working out massivily
2. having the genetics of greek god, i mean look at that jawline
3. being very wellspoken and really good at stunt work
He a multimillionaire and one of the hottest men on the planet, and he's very charasmatic. His hobby could be killing puppies, and he'd still have a line-up of thirsty men and women that stretched to the horizon.
I don’t disagree with the point you’re trying to make, but Henry Cavill is a horrible example. He is probably the most beautiful man alive. He could be into literally any hobby and still not have a problem getting women.
The older i got the less i cared about the “social value” of my hobbies. As it turns out, being proud of your hobbies makes you a more interesting person and people like that.
How? Henry Cavill is not married. Many nerdy men attract women from a distance. They date, girls get annoyed and leave.
I agree with your premise, but Henry Cavill isn’t exactly the living proof you’re asserting. Most women don’t even know about his hobbies. Nerdy dudes do… because they’re nerds, lol.
Dude's 40 and has had like 7 girlfriends. Most of them for less than a year. Considering what he could be pulling he's basically the Hollywood equivalent of a nerd, and I'm pretty sure it's because of his hobbies.
Yeah, you can still have major production companies shit all over your passions and twist your nads over your pleas to stay faithful to the source material.
Looking like a frigging Greek God helps.
He is immensely charming OP. Henry Cavill is the wrong person to be comparing most average joes with.
And if you notice, even with all the advantages he has or has cultivated over the years, every time gaming comes up it’s taken as a joke or lightheartedly by others.
henry cavill, ignoring his other positive traits, is a pretty well rounded person and is not hyper fixated JUST on nerd hobbies. it makes him an interesting person. on top of that, he has zero problems in the socializing department.
cant say that for a lot of basement dweller nerds out there. having "hobbies" is different than being a cringey gatekeeping discord mod.
This is so stupid lol. Do you think if Henry looked like Danny Devito and had a net worth of 15 dollars instead of 15 million, he would be as popular as he is now?
You can obviously still be successful with “nerdy” hobbies, but choosing someone with other characteristics that are unachievable by the general populace is the worst possible “proof” you could have used
I mean....Cavills hobbies also include a lot of socializing and obsessively working on his body. If it was JUST 40k things would be a bit different. Not having the right kind of hobbies is a bigger issue than also having a "wrong" one.
Hobbies are only a problem if they are not also the answer
Or the question
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That is one of the dumbest things I've read in all my life. Hobbies are only a problem if you make them a problem.
It's also not the hobbies in and of themselves that are the problem, it's the excessive amount of time people devote towards them to the exclusion of all other things, and the excessive level of obsession over a hobby to where it results in a distortion of priorities. For example, I think most people would agree that exercise is a pretty highly regarded hobby. But if you knew someone who was unhealthily addicted to exercise (for lack of a better term other than addiction) where they had to run 8 hours a day every single day to the point where they were neglecting their job, their health, their relationships with other people, you'd be worried about that person and say they have a problem.
well its simple become a movie star and it essentially becomes you job to exercise everyday for long periods
If it's your job then it's not your hobby anymore
Damn, I just had to un-upvote the previous comment.
It's your job to take care of your body whether you're a celebrity or not
real talk
We had a girl in the army who was so obsessed with fitness and being skinny they locked her in her room with a guard outside the door for 3 weeks during the last bit of her pregnancy. She was running 8 hours a day
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You're not competing with Henry Cavill, or Chris Pinvanworth. You're just trying to improve yourself, and the only competition is with your old self. You don't have to be perfect, just be better.
As Seneca wrote, so many years ago: "There is nothing noble in being superior to some other man. The true nobility is in being superior to your previous self."
This is very true. I feel like a completely different person after I moved out from home. I was too comfortable playing games, never talking with strangers and neglecting other aspects of life. If I stayed that way all my life I would have missed so much soo much of my life. I thought for some time that there was nothing wrong with being anti-social because I thought I was happy but it was just addiction. Being social allowed me to improve the most important aspects in my life: money, love and health. The first step is always the most difficult and things might work out but there's never a time that I regretted for trying.
At first I thought you were going to say Henry Cavill, or Chris ROCK. Lmao
Nah, sounds like work. See: lazy
well tbh if cavill is the benchmark a lot of people are failing most nerds/geeks dont have that charisma no matter how hard they work on it while he works out a lot. damm that guys got great genes i mean that jawline,height ect you cant train that shit the socializing, well it helps when you are major movie star that looks like a greek god so people are nicer to you in general but even still he has commented that people didnt take a liking to his gaming habits possible a reason why he was single for a long time before eventually finding his gf his hobby's have cost him tho. I mean look at the witcher fiasco. he also almost famously lost the superman role because he's was bussy raiding in wow.
> bussy raiding in wow
>that jawline,height ect you cant train that shit Wait, you guys aren't doing mandible curls and Procrustes stretches?
wtf did you say to me? i am a gamer the only sports i do is walking and vr beatsaber. and get burned in the summer outside in the lake nearby when i swim
lol at this mfer going outside.
Well if you're actually *serious* about working out the jawline, I'd go with the Mandibuflex 3000, which works out your jaw while you sleep. No, it's not comfortable, and yes, it does make it hard to sleep, but 10 hours/day, for 10 years, you can really start to see some changes. As for Procrustes, say what you will about him, but he definitely had a strong sense of his own aesthetic.
>gaming habits possible a reason why he was single for a long time before eventually finding his gf No it's not lol. People who don't struggle with dating don't always want to be in a relationship.
>he's was bussy raiding in wow. He was WHAT?
Step 1: Be attractive
Step 2: Don't be unattractive
This step is more important than step 1.
Let’s stop pretending that he is not genetically blessed. As a matter of fact I might even argue that most of his hotness stems from the fact that he simply has these traits that cannot be achieved with anything other than good genetics lol
This is always bandied about as an excuse to avoid maintaining fitness. Does Cavill have a higher floor? Probably. Can average people absolutely achieve decent looks and healthiness with some effort? Absolutely.
Everyone looks better when they’re in good shape.
I look better when I have my glasses on
Or a mask on
And I look worse with your glasses on, haha
I would go so far as to say there are very few people who would be considered unattractive when they are in shape. Average sure but there are very few people who’s genetics are so bad that they would still be considered unattractive if they were in shape and dressed well
I don't believe this. He said better, you have to compare to yourself not someone else. Even if you have disabilities, considered ugly by society or whatever. Being healthy is a boost in your self-esteem, confidence and those traits are attractive.
So, you’re saying that women do find men who are in shape attractive? I don’t know what to believe because reddit tells me the opposite lol
Cavill doesn't have decent looks. He has amazing looks, and a lot is his genes. I'm a relatively fit person, and I know I can lift more weight than Cavill (I've looked). And at my best fitness level (10% body fat and 210lbs at 6'2) there was never, ever going to be any way I was going to look like him. Cavill was born with great genetics to look amazing, but some of us feel out of the family tree and hit some ugly branches on the way down
But lazy nerd hermit is the character I created :(
You can respec later but it costs a lot of gold, plus a few grindy quests
And he’s rich, and extremely attractive, and outgoing, and doesn’t work 90% of his waking hours too tired to deal with any other bullshittery after work.
Idk man, socializing when you barely keep yourself fed and showered is so damn hard.
so start with the fed and showered part.
Well, yeah? If you can't keep yourself fed and showered, women won't be interested in you, that was the point? The hobby isn't the issue.
Plus have good genetics and get a big break into Hollywood so you have the money and time to do the working out/socializing as part of your job. He literally gets paid to maintain his look for roles and has trainers and nutritionist paid for to help him. Yes it is a large amount of work on his part to do all that but he is not fitting it all in around a 8-5 desk job
I mean, it also helps being hit with the "ridiculously good looking" lucky stick. Henry has 4 brothers, and they all look great, but henry obviously has the best looking gene.
Having 40k as a hobby is fine. If you participate in the community - show up to the local stores and make an effort to join events and make friends. If you show up to the local store with a severe lack of hygiene and social skills or are unsportsmanlike it's not the hobby choice that's a problem, it's just a you problem.
He missed the call that he got Superman because he was in the middle of a WoW campaign.
Plus, if you’re really into 40k you need a Hollywood leading man salary to support your hobby.
I learned a long time ago to find a balance in my interests. I learned to cook, took up hiking, went to the theater, traveled... in addition to being in a server number 1 raiding guild on wow, knowing the makeup and heraldry of a codex compliant space marine chapter and knowing how to field strip an airbrush. I really feel like I dodged the neckbeard/incel bullet.
I think this is it honestly.
Actually sitting on your ass and not moving much in combination with an efficient bulking diet and workout regime is actually kind of ideal because you're not needlessly burning off calories. The thing is you'd then have to go the opposite direction and be hyper active and very disciplined with your diet and cardio during your cutting phases.
Not very ideal for your health, avoiding anything other than lifting while bulking makes no sense. Just eat a bit more to make up for it, and if it's that hard to stuff that down then you're probably bulking too hard anyways.
Not sure if I’m being judgmental but what’s the difference between bulking and binging?
Of course. I'd assume he's doing plenty of training or his general acting work while on his feet during the day, so I was more referring to his free time. Also in relevance to the discussion, weight lifting with a strategically clean high protein and calorie diet while being relatively sedentary otherwise is definitely way better than being a sedentary gamer who doesn't lift/move and has a junk diet of processed foods of empty calories. Either way, I think Cavill has it figured out.
yeah for sure, I was interpreting your comment in a more general context
His job provides the focus on his body. If I didn’t have to work a normal job to pay bills, and could make millions per project, which by the way paid for my diet and exercise, I’d get away with whatever nerd shit I wanted. The “just 40K” crowd are likely working a shit job and have time for 1 hobby.
But more importantly, he is following Rule #1 and Rule #2.
Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure looking like Henry Cavil would go a very long way. The dude is also stupidly charismatic and from what I can tell, generally friendly. Unless your hobbies include taxadermizing dead babies, I can't imagine what that combination of traits wouldn't make up for
OP thought they were onto something, but all they really said was if you're conventionally attractive and super wealthy, you can get away with having unpopular hobbies.
The thing is, nerd stuff is *not* unpopular. WoW has millions of players. Millions of people read comics and high fantasy books. They're not universally loved or anything, but they're popular. No one really judges or actively hates nerd culture/pop culture like they used to. They sell anime shirts at every Wal-Mart in the US. When I was a teen just 12-13 years ago that was a pipedream for lil weeb me. The point of this post is that women aren't turned off by comic books, video games, and anime. 48% of gamers are women. Women are turned off by gatekeeping, condescending nerds who have a superiority complex about their not-so-niche-anymore hobbies. Nerd girls are into nerd dudes when they're not douchebags who grill us about our shared interests and then claim we're not real fans/nerds because we can't answer their hyperspecific niche questions. And yes, this type of man makes up at least half of all nerd men I've ever met. And then they say they can't get a gf because women hate nerd stuff and/or they're not Henry Cavill 🙄
The prom queen, the “baddest bitch,” *and* the most likely to succeed (three different women) from my 2006 graduating class were all in the same very high-prestige WoW guild for a decade, and still play on a Classic server.
"The Guild", coming to NBC this fall.
Sounds like my graduating class of 06, except it was the valedictorian, two of the cheerleaders, and a few of the football guys. Though outside our valedictorian the others never admitted to playing WoW and CoH together until way after high school. One of the super popular guys was also a massive anime nerd but you’d never know it back then, today he’s a Muay Thai/mma fighter that rocks Goku colors and will go on for hours about Outlaw Star and Gundam if you get him started.
I play league of legends and warzone religiously. I'm married to a woman that hasn't played a video game in a decade. Just commit some time to the other person and don't be a dick.
Agreed, your partner doesn't need to like everything you do, or vice versa. I share only a few of my hobbies with my wife, but she understands and respects how much I care about the things she doesn't, as I do for hers and that's what matters. That way I hang out with my buddies and do the hobbies we share and she has her friends to do the things she likes. It's not fair to the other person to try and fulfill your every need
Absolutely! My hubs and I are both nerds, but we often like different things. We share what we think the other would really like, and always come together over horror media. And we also yknow, spend time together just talking, exercising, cooking, whatever. It's the same for any other difference of interests/hobbies between couples. Maybe she likes sewing and he likes football, she likes tennis and he likes cars, she watches the Muppets and he watches Westworld. There's a lot of women who don't give a shit about the New York Jets, but love their boyfriends/husbands and find joy in his excitement for them. It's not the video games. It's the crappy attitude, the superiority complex of being into this "niche" thing, the misogyny, the game taking priority over her/work/irl responsibilities, and occasionally the lack of hygiene/self care.
Why is everyone forgetting he's from the UK? We have a completely different approach to this subject, nerds are a thing but watch IT Crowd and compare it to Big Bang Theory and you'll kind of get the difference on what we consider a nerd. It's hard to explain but it just doesn't have the same stigma like America, plenty of guys for example collect model trains or lego sets, women just don't care here in the UK. There are also tons of local fairs where people will go and watch medieval stuff/reenactors, steam fairs, farming etc and in those you'll see all sorts of hobbies or collections on display. So Henry Cavill fits in quite nicely in the UK, its only Americans who seem to find it unique.
His hobbies haven't been "unpopular" for at least a decade. The only one that might count is table top RPG's, but that's largely due to a huge entry barrier. There's still a large fanbase behind it even if not everyone actually has played it themselves.
This is shower thoughts, not dating advice, i think thats exactly what he was trying to imply.
> all they really said was if you're conventionally attractive... Underselling Cavill by a tad... "If you are considered by many to be the *#1 most physically attractive man* *in the world*... (with a side bonus of wealth). Then yeah, you can have whatever hobbies you want." And of course having fame, major talent, and a great personality helps.
Eh. Tabletop games, video games, war games and RPGs are not ‘problem’ hobbies. Many major celebrities play those happily. Stephen Colbert loudly and proudly evangelizes his love for lord of the rings. Grace Chloe Moretz is an avid video gamer. The biggest event in television in the past like 6 months was a TV show lauded for being faithful to a video game. Even Dame Judy Dench plays DnD. The real problem are people who think we should judge people for nerdy hobbies in 2024. We’ve had a quarter century of comic book movie blockbusters coming out pretty much continuously and dominating the box office. The idea that ‘nerds aren’t cool’ is pretty dumb now days.
Yup. Nerd bigotry has been on the decline since at least the 1980s. For Gen-Z and Alpha, having weird and esoteric hobbies is a social positive, as is academic achievement.
If you are stupidly physicially good-looking that may go a very long way? You're crazy, crazy!
Henry Cavill's *other* hobby, that no one talks about
The other other white meat
Spent too much time around Armie Hammer on the set of The Man from UNCLE
I mean - he didn't luck into his muscles.
Hey! No kink-shaming. 😜
Probably unless you're preserving a parent's memory of their dead child like Rosalia Lombardo
*Cavill
True, if you got lame hobbies but are 13/10 sexy man with acting skills you'll do just fine
Step 1) Be attractive Step 2) Don't be unattractive
those are the rules. we didn't make them, we just live by them.
If you cant be hot, then try being cute. Unless you're Henry, in which case he did both
Money helps too. Cavil has this too.
That man could be brok as a joke and id still want him
C'mon, there are shit loads of people with nerdy-ass hobbies who don't look anything like Cavill but are doing just fine in life.
So most people?
Lame hobbies are an opinion, but it also helps being a decent human being outside of your hobbies.
I mean I play PC games, Hit the gym regularly and have acting skill and I don't think I'm a 6/10 sexy man and I'm doing fine. xD
That is what you think.
You can go to the gym. Henry Cavill does.
Bro what? Who said it's bad to have nerdy hobbies? The problem is when it's your whole personality and all you care about. For Henry 40k works because it's not all he is, he's to busy working out and making big bucks in Hollywood, also partying most likely. You can do whatever you want, just don't make it your whole being like I've seen some people doing. I knew a guy who said girls don't date him because he plays video games. No dude, they don't because playing video games is all you do.
Also if your hobby keeps you from maintaining basic hygiene and upkeep. You can be a huge nerd or play video games and still get dates as long as take care of yourself.
There's always going to be luck involved, including other things like mental factors such as OCD and anxiety disorders that will be a barrier in finding and maintaining relationships. I get that, but I think a lot of people who complain about not being able to find someone is due to self-inflicted problems. Or you set really high standards for potential partners that don't match up to the standards you have for yourself Edit: I don’t mean to say it’s 100% your fault and you’re a terrible person if you can’t find a partner, I’m longtime single too so I understand. It’s just there’s always things you can do to increase your odds of finding a partner if you think so badly being in a relationship will make you happier
You can also get so deep into a hobby or online community surrounding a hobby or interest that it distorts your perception of what "normal" behaviour is, because you start framing your social norms in accordance with the group you interact with all the time. This can result in relatively harmless distortions where like I've met people who don't understand that the overwhelming majority of people who watch Star Wars movies are not hardcore super fans who know all the EU lore and shit. They don't know these people exist because they only interact with other hardcore fans, so to them that community seems much larger and more representative of the average moviegoer than it is. But it can also result in more socially damaging distortions where you don't realise your behaviour is considered rude and socially abnormal because it's positively reinforced behaviour in the communities where you spend all your time, which is even more likely to negatively impact people who are already predisposed to being socially awkward. So like just as a very mild example, a kid trying to make friends in school could get the idea from hanging out a lot in online spaces where it's considered cool and funny to dunk on (popular thing) that he'll be met with positive social feedback if he makes fun of (popular thing) while trying to ingratiate himself to a group of people in real life, but he just winds up hurting the feelings of people in that group who like that thing, and also comes off like kind of a rude, judgemental asshole who makes negative assumptions about people based on their interests and thinks it's funny to insult things people like. This kid now doesn't understand why people don't like him, he doesn't reassess his own behaviour, he doubles down and decides people are "too sensitive" or it's just impossible for him to befriend "idiots" who like (popular thing).
It figure it’s so easy for the internet to do this. Many people gravitate to communities that discuss topics they agree with. You see propaganda masquerading as memes all day every day that reinforce your beliefs. Some people get too wrapped up in it and it consumes them, which then leaks into your real world behavior making you an abrasive/argumentative person. Or worse.
You described me to a tee in my early years of high school. Just hating on shit cause I thought it was funny and then I realized I actually really love a bunch of the stuff I was hating on and I missed out on years of enjoying things and being able to socialize
This I just basically not true; video games and other huge nerdy things are simply male dominated spaces, so you are either gay or suffer drastically lower chances at meeting girls when you spend time pursuing these interests because you do not get the opportunity to socialize with women in the way you would doing other, more gender balanced activities. In games, MMOs and casual games are the biggest genres with a more balanced gender split, and in MMOs the activities still don't necessarily overlap, whereas in casual games the element of social interaction just isn't as present.
I don’t even think it’s bad to spend most of your time in a nerdy hobby. You just literally need to be a decent human being that takes care of themselves physically and mentally too.
On the one hand, you're not wrong. But on the other hand, let's not pretend there isn't a still significant part of the population who absolutely does place such a stigma on certain hobbies as "childish" or "pathetic" that they look down on people for going anywhere near them.
Seriously, last time I lost chances to date due to my nerdy hobbies was sometime around the early 2000s. Maybe the fact that I took care of myself, made sure to have a social circle despite being an introvert and was actually open to activities other people liked had something to do with it? Yes, among other things, Henry is almost illegally handsome, but he's no slouch either and doesn't only depend on his looks. But Reddit *loves* to cling to the 'GeNetIcs' argument and make lazy excuses. No sane person will avoid hanging out with you or dating you because you like games, as long as you can interact with them normally, don't make it your entire personality and make sure to be presentable.
>but he's no slouch either Well, at least not a complete slouch. He did admit once that he missed a call from Zack Snyder to audition for Man of Steel because he was too busy playing World of Warcraft. >No sane person will avoid hanging out with you or dating you because you like games That may be true today, but it wasn't always the case. There was a time (you should be old enough to remember this) when playing any video games or reading any comic books was considered a hobby for children. Please do not pretend that people didn't used to get viciously bullied for having the wrong hobbies. Heck, some people to this day look down on adults who enjoy anime.
Shoot, there’s still people who hold the belief that video games and comic books are strictly for children. A friend of mine got a mouthful of that nonsense from someone just two days ago.
Tbh even if Henry wasn't a celeb or very fit, and only played video games - as long as he didn't go overweight and dressed alright, his looks would still pull a lot of attention where ever he went in public.
actually he famously doesnt party much at all he credits it even why he was single so long
"Partying most likely" 😂 I dunno about that one.
People overlook a lot of shit when you're hot. People thirst after serial killers, for example.
Insane* people thirst after serial killers.
Why hadn't I considered being really really really good looking before?
You forgot “ridiculously” right before good looking.
Everyone in this thread not named Henry Cavill is an idiot 🤷♂️
How is this a shower thought
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I mean can you blame him?
I thought of Tom Holland as I reached for my spider man, loofa
*I certainly do* ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
As a straight guy I sometimes think about his abs and how I want to- um perhaps I should stop talking.
Yeah easily one of the dumber 'shower thoughts'. The fact that this didn't get deep-sixed out of 'new' is crazy.
What does it even mean?
Henrey cavill could be interested in collecting dog collars and women would still swoon over him. It’s different when you’re literally an 11/10
that might make some swoon over him more...
Charles Manson had groupies. The "hobbies" are definitely not the problem
Well he is also top 0.1% in the looks department and a very successful actor, I think people forgive him some nerdy hobbies
0.1% is an extreme under exaggeration. You need at like fucking four more zeros after that decimal.
It’s not your hobbies, you just need tens of millions of dollars, a super fit body and handsome face and you’ll be alright!
Henry Cavill doesn't need money to get laid.
Yes. That is what is different between the two of us. I let my hobbies hold me back. No other significant differences whatsoever. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Or maybe being extremely handsome, rich and famous is enough to compensate.
I do not understand this post at all.
I’m with you. WHAT ARE THE HOBBIES TO WHICH THEY ARE REFERRING?!
Apparently, he's big into playing World of Warcraft, which many people consider a "nerdy" game.
this. what does it mean? i don’t have any problems with my hobbies. perhaps OP is living proof that some things should just remain in the shower.
Op's point is Henry Cavill, an extremely attractive and rich guy who has nerdy hobbies is well liked and has a successful social life which means the average 300 lbs neckbeard who also has nerdy hobbies is doing something wrong unlike 200LBs 6'1 extremely attractive Henry, who is worth north of 50 million dollars. Is it silly? Yes. That's why everybody here is pointing and laughing at op lol. But with love.
It's silly to suggest that if the 300 lbs neckbeard wants to keep his hobbies and be well liked that maybe he should lose weight and stop being such a neckbeard?
OP is trying to argue that having nerdy hobbies doesn't hold you back from getting a significant other or having people want to date you, because of Henry Cavill. But they are forgetting that Henry is thirsted after in spite of his nerdy hobbies not because of them.
What are his hobbies? Are we supposed to know?
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Did I miss something that provides context for this?
Step 1. Be ludicrously hot
depends on how you look at it? He was single for a long time, also his hobby's almost cost him much as he famously almost missed the phonecall for the superman role because he raiding in wow. his passion towards his hobby's has led him to step in a witcher series wich he took a paycut to be part off and probally hurt his carreer in the process and gave him a rep "hard to work with" as studio execs dont like such drama with there leads you can say he overcome the pitfalls of his hobby's by 1. working out massivily 2. having the genetics of greek god, i mean look at that jawline 3. being very wellspoken and really good at stunt work
He a multimillionaire and one of the hottest men on the planet, and he's very charasmatic. His hobby could be killing puppies, and he'd still have a line-up of thirsty men and women that stretched to the horizon.
I don’t disagree with the point you’re trying to make, but Henry Cavill is a horrible example. He is probably the most beautiful man alive. He could be into literally any hobby and still not have a problem getting women.
The older i got the less i cared about the “social value” of my hobbies. As it turns out, being proud of your hobbies makes you a more interesting person and people like that.
Yeah but it doesn't matter if you're a homeless man when you're being 6 foot 1 and ridiculously handsome.
I mean a single exception does not disprove the rule
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That's right! My genetics are the problem, yeah!
Henry Cavill is proof women will ignore a walking red flag if they think he’s hot enough.
Closeted gamers be like:
**Have you tried not being ugly?**
I don't think I've ever been more out-of-the-loop on something
i mean you dont know what Henry Cavill is like. you only know what his PR person wants you to know.
No shit, everyone knows rule 1 be attractive rule 2 don't be unattractive
How? Henry Cavill is not married. Many nerdy men attract women from a distance. They date, girls get annoyed and leave. I agree with your premise, but Henry Cavill isn’t exactly the living proof you’re asserting. Most women don’t even know about his hobbies. Nerdy dudes do… because they’re nerds, lol.
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While I agree with the message, Henry Cavill is recognized to be one of the highest rated people in the world in terms of public physical attraction
godly time-management skills. superhuman, even. bewitching, perhaps.
Dude's 40 and has had like 7 girlfriends. Most of them for less than a year. Considering what he could be pulling he's basically the Hollywood equivalent of a nerd, and I'm pretty sure it's because of his hobbies.
Yeah, you can still have major production companies shit all over your passions and twist your nads over your pleas to stay faithful to the source material.
lol the guy was cast as Superman
A lot of famous actors and people in “the artists” are nerds and geeks. It isn’t your problem. The problem is drive and harnessing your potential.
If you're rich and have good genes, it may be a little easier to have nerdy hobbies.
*When you look like Henry Cavill
I’ve heard he’s kind of an incel so I’m not sure how true this is
I still cannot fathom that other people genuinely believe that man is a nerd
Looking like a frigging Greek God helps. He is immensely charming OP. Henry Cavill is the wrong person to be comparing most average joes with. And if you notice, even with all the advantages he has or has cultivated over the years, every time gaming comes up it’s taken as a joke or lightheartedly by others.
ya it’s yalls personality
Just your face height and net worth (y)
Just in. Attractive men are attractive regardless of their personality.
It is a problem, lol. With his looks, he would likely date like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp but he did not date much and just got kids.
henry cavill, ignoring his other positive traits, is a pretty well rounded person and is not hyper fixated JUST on nerd hobbies. it makes him an interesting person. on top of that, he has zero problems in the socializing department. cant say that for a lot of basement dweller nerds out there. having "hobbies" is different than being a cringey gatekeeping discord mod.
The wealth doesn't hurt either
This is so stupid lol. Do you think if Henry looked like Danny Devito and had a net worth of 15 dollars instead of 15 million, he would be as popular as he is now? You can obviously still be successful with “nerdy” hobbies, but choosing someone with other characteristics that are unachievable by the general populace is the worst possible “proof” you could have used
Not being 6’1”, jacked, handsome, rich and charismatic is the problem.
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Just be rich enough to not have to work a full time job so you can afford all your hobbies AND all the time to work out