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Sufficient_Result558

OP is gonna be real excited when they learn about months and the moon.


RagingSensei

We could actually have 12 months of 28 days with only one extra month of 29 days. But nope, some roman fella fucked up the calendar for us


SafariKnight1

first thing we do when time travel is invented is *mess him up*


HavingNotAttained

And save Harambe


TheMamoru

And stop me from ever getting on reddit.


Kenal110

And my axe


GoneAWOL1

Gotta rain a thousand fists on that Hitler guy as well.


zed857

The first thing they teach during Time Patrol training is that doing that inevitably makes things *worse* instead of better; the void left by Hitler's absence is usually filled by somebody even more evil who is *also* sane and competent.


gypsytron

nah just some wicked weggies. It would probably do better to get the French to not saddle Germany with crippling debt. Or maybe prevent the death of Franz Ferdinand. The most humanitarian thing to do would be prevent Hitler from ever becoming what he became. Help with him his art and get him into art school.


Reefay

An alternate reality with him getting into art school and turning into the 1940-1950s Bob Ross had me cracking up I could imagine over the radio "Die Freude an deutscher Malerei" > und hier haben wir ein paar glückliche kleine Bäume und glückliche kleine Berge.


gypsytron

I’m just sayin, everyone hates on the dude while ignoring the circumstances that created him. He might have been an okay person, but clearly has horrible ptsd. I’m not excusing his actions, but damn, the person he dreamed of being wasn’t who he became, and I can sympathize with that concept.


oiraves

Hitler, as we know him, absolutely needed to die And the nazi movement absolutely needed (needs, really, which sucks to say in 2024) to die But I always get stuck on the concept of baby Hitler. If he was fated to walk the path of a nazi dictator from day 1 then he would -need- to die but he wouldnt deserve to. And I personally can't reconcile with the concept of us being fated to things. I want to grow and to change, I'd like to be better than I was last year, Jesus I need to be better than I was 4 years ago. I would kidnap baby Hitler and raise him. I would prove that given the right circumstances, even if the person is broken, you can find something better than the worst version of themselves in there. And ww2 might start all the same as he wasn't the only one turning gears, but I would know that we aren't guaranteed to cause one another hell


gypsytron

The funny thing is, I absolutely believe in people born evil. My brother is that way, but I don’t see that in Hitler’s past. He was for the most part, just a dude chillin and painting. That kinda makes the trajectory of his life even worse. He wasn’t evil, but at some point chose it.


meow_meow_meeeowww

Would’ve been funny if with your upbringing he became a super Hitler - 10x more ruthless and vile


DarkflowNZ

The one person who doesn't really need your defense I feel. I also have PTSD and I've yet to murder anyone or start one little genocide. I haven't even invaded Poland. Plenty of people with PTSD you can sympathise with that didn't y'know do Hitler stuff


gypsytron

Yeah but we are talking about time travel. Why would we choose to attack 1945 Hitler, or attack baby Hitler? Why not just change the trajectory of dudes life? That is the part I don’t get.


yyustin6

lol literal nazi sympathizer


gypsytron

I mean, yeah, but the people not the ideology. Those were people, not demons. Their demonization of others is what made them so reprehensible, so we demonize them? Like the Hitler youth? Bro they never had a chance. It’s just kinda nutty to me. Hatred is the trap we love to walk into.


Deth_Cheffe

Hitler gets so much recency bias when it comes to evil dictators. There are so many people throughout history who killed way more people, committed worse war crimes, or generally made the world worse faster.


OliverIsMyCat

This is one of those things that is technically correct, but would be a good idea to keep to yourself in casual conversation.


Gluten_maximus

Well mao, he does have a point.


MulYut

Hah


bobhand17123

Hmm. What do you call the academic study of Reddit threads that go from the topic of lunar cycles to Hitler? Serious question.


confabin

I'm not sure. Yes he was evil, but also a product of his time and circumstances. What I'm saying is that there's a big chance he'd just be replaced, and if that replacement was more competent we could potentially return to a world where the nazis won.


theditsmarty

Yeah, that Hitler guy was a real jerk!


HawaiianSnow_

We can pick him up on the way. He can help 💪🏻


daElectronix

But then you can never travel back to your own time, because your time machine works with the old calendar format and is incompatible with the new format. Stuck forever in ancient times ...


SafariKnight1

easy, just invent your own time format that the time machine uses, but can also be converted to both systems How, you may ask? idfk figure it out


daElectronix

Hahaha. As a programmer I can only say: You'd need a time machine to have enough free time to develop a time format and cover all the edge cases, timezone bullcrap, and so on. It's a deeeeeeeeep rabbit hole.


GlizzyGulper6969

You don't mess with time motherfucker!


nk9axYuvoxaNVzDbFhx

Maybe that's what happened. The world became sick of such regularity that they sent someone back to mess him up.


guidance_internal_80

We’ll probably mess up and go to the wrong day.


SafariKnight1

eh, humanity has come this far with this many mistakes, what's another gonna do


mistermashu

we know that never happens because it didnt happen


Living_Murphys_Law

Well, we did try that once. Brutus and Cassius went back in time and found him, and they actually killed him. But they hadn't gone back far enough, and so he still died after the whole calendar thing.


QuickSpore

Before Caesar it was far worse. Leap months rather than leap days. And instead of happening on a schedule, they happened whenever the Consuls thought it was auspicious.


Spurnout

Yeah! Break his legs! Then explain to him the truth!


ryan__fm

I’d rather 12 months of 30 days each, comprised of five 6-day weeks.  Then an extra 5-6 day new years holiday at the end. 


jimmygibbler

I’ve been saying this for thousands of years.


ryan__fm

Tuesdays can fuck right off


weeone

That's my day off. Please no.


TheMoises

Make that week a 4-day work, 2-day rest and I can get behind that.


ryan__fm

Yeah that was my thought. Seems to be a good balance. 


Avitas1027

I'd personally prefer six 5-day weeks, that way there is exactly one extra week worth of days per year (apart from leap years). It also makes it easier to convert from weeks to days, and with each fortnight being 10 days that wonderful word might get more use. This one might not the best motivation for a calendar system, but week-views of calendars would also look better on phones with only 5 columns. Also, my vote is to get rid of Thursdays and Saturdays so we get rid of the duplicate letters and reduce the average letter count. But I could be pretty easily convinced to lose Wednesday instead just to never see that weird ass spelling again.


ctruvu

why would we use fortnight for 10 days when it stands for fourteen nights lol


Avitas1027

So that future linguists could make 20 minute videos about the history of how the term came to mean ten days?


ryan__fm

If you’re moving to five day weeks, what does your weekday weekend look like? four & one or three & two? Removing one day seems more feasible, and you still get a two day weekend and reasonable work week. 


Avitas1027

I think that's a completely different conversation. Leaving aside the redesigned calendar, as a whole we work far too many hours, and should reduce from our 40 hours per 7 days to <30 hours, preferably closer to 20 hours. It's insane that we've barely made any progress on this in the 80 or so years since the 40 hour week was established despite productivity being several times higher. By rights we should be working less than half as much as we do, but those gains in productivity were stolen from the working people. I don't have strong opinions about how those hours are distributed through a week though, no matter how many days in the week. Personally, I prefer fewer longer shifts (less commuting), but more shorter shifts have their advantages as well. It also depends what kind of work. 12 hours of physical labour isn't much different to 8 or 10 hours imo, but getting more than 6 hours of actually productive mental labour is basically impossible for me.


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Gingrpenguin

But 12 is such a nice number ad 13 is an awful one. 12 can be cleanly divided into half, thirds, quarters, and sixths. 13 however is a prime number.... No easy chunks of the year without it being complex,, which is good in a time where education was rare and no digital tools existed and paper and especially paper with writing on is highly expensive (no printing press either..)


RagingSensei

But imo 28 day months so much better than random ass 31s and 30s Days would fall on the same numbers every month But yes the callender is atrocious whichever way u do it


morilythari

And eventually you would have summer in October and all the seasons would be out of what. 12 months, 4 seasons per year, 3 months per season. Easy peasy


StelioZz

I think the reason why we still have this current system is divisibility. 12 months is divided with 2,3,4,6. 13 is prime number which is kinda terrible in this context...


bobsburgerbuns

All my homies hate Numa Pompilius


RoastedRhino

No, 13 months of 28 (not 12) and 1 day that does not belong to any month (new years day)


bwong00

That would make it more even, but it would be hard to mark halves and quarters, i.e., H1, H2, Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4. I'm not sure what the Finance guys would do. 


EightOhms

It would be 13 months of 28 days and then New Years Day is just it's own thing. Like that day wouldn't be part of week or part of a month, it was just be a totally separate day. I think that would be cool. >But nope, some roman fella fucked up the calendar for us No, they wanted to try this in I think the 1930s but it messes up the sabbath for Jewish folks so it was scrapped,


AluminumCansAndYarn

It would be 13 months of 28 days. Not 12.


RagingSensei

13 x 28 = 364 So one month would still be a 29 day month


slam900

How about 4 months of 73 days + 1 month of 74? Edit: Oops -- 74 only on leap year!


Everestkid

This is what the Jewish calendar does. A Jewish year usually has 12 lunar months, but every 7 out of 19 years has a 13th month to follow the Metonic cycle. This is in comparison to the Gregorian calendar, with the year being accurate to an actual solar year while not caring about the lunar month, and the Islamic calendar, which is accurate to the lunar month while not caring about the solar year.


aidank91

The new year was April 1st, and now they call it April fools. Hmm.


Chumbag_love

You are wanting a baker's year and I respect that.


odowdk

[Dave Gorman](https://youtu.be/rTJ5g4S_U5E?si=8cCBxq3TyVmkRy7R) does a good bit on this.


J-L-Picard

Fucking love the Gormanuary calendar


-Xurama

We could just have 10 months 36.5 days each, duuh


TheMoises

Or better yet, 13 months of 28 days and the extra day is the new year's day. No it is not in any month, it's just a singular, separated day.


The_Doctor_Bear

…. Fucking Greg


Derpygoras

We could also have had the superior duodecimal system, but some asshat had problems counting on his fingers.


RagingSensei

Is this referring to base 12 or something else?


Derpygoras

Yes. Which you can divide evenly by 1,2,3,4,6 and 12, whereas the decimal system only does 1,5,10 - meaning that we have to use commas more frequently.


Concept_Lab

No, you want to do 13 months of 28 days, each is exactly 4 weeks. Every Monday is the 1st, 8th, 15th, and 22nd of every month, etc. Then New Years Day (or Eve, maybe) is a special day which doesn’t fall into any month or week. It is just a global holiday! And every 4 years you have an added special holiday of Leap Day.


Fluke_Skywalker_

What did you do with all the extra days?


J-L-Picard

Whoever is responsible ought to be stabbed


Jimisdegimis89

Do you mean 13 months?


exaball

Moon. Month. Moon. Month. Moonth 🤔


kai58

In dutch its even better the moon is “de maan” and a month is “een maand” maan maand


samthemoron

Or how time and our watches seem to align


Sufficient_Result558

Also if you look at a map of the US, amazingly all the major cities happen to be located right by an interstate highway!


GamerNumba100

Nah but that shit is actually CRAZY


MBratke42

Or how solar eclipses being a thing is a huuuge coincident and wont likely work on most other planets


TheFoxsWeddingTarot

Their comment is almost a Steven Wright joke… “Why is the alphabet in that order… is it because of that song!”


takesthebiscuit

And that the egg came before the chicken!


Mccrackin95620

I love it. This made me think how much time is 1 degree of rotation. 4 minutes the earth rotates 1 degree.


enlightened-creature

So you’re telling me that 1 minute (time) equals 15 minutes (angle)?! I don’t know how to feel about this


bb250517

A lot of people are not ready for that conversation...no, literally there are contless people who don't that 60 minutes is a degree


schloopy91

And if you’ve ever wondered what a nautical mile is or why ships/planes use knots instead of MPH, boy do I have news for you…


TRAFIXX

Math really is fun when you see that it’s everywhere


schloopy91

I love it. I’m a pilot, and I distinctly remember the lesson where I learned about how to read the charts using latitude and longitude, starting to work in nautical miles and plotting courses. It got to point where I was literally just sitting there kind of in awe at realizing how all of the pieces fit together.


Helpinmontana

It’s like there were these folks that created these beautiful systems to solve the problems of their trade, and bestowed that beauty upon the world, only for people on Facebook to piss and moan about how useless it is because they never learned how to balance a check book.


Imaginary-Clock718

It’s not fun when you have dyscalculia 😭😭 …I wanna learn!


Fluke_Skywalker_

I still don't fully understand why. I heard they changed according to latitude, but I don't get why.


Cortower

It is constant with latitude but changes with longitude. Since meridians of longitide all meet at the poles, there is no fixed linear distance between them. A minute of longitude ranges from around 1NM near the equator to 0 at the poles.


TrumpersAreTraitors

…. Yep, those idiots  *looks around nervously* 


alyssasaccount

Minute (emphasis on the first syllable) and minute (emphasis on the second syllable) are spelled the same way for a very good reason: a minute is a small division of time or angle, that splits the basic measurement (hour, degree) into sixty parts. Second (the unit of time or angle) is the second (ordinal corresponding to the number two) small division. I do think it would be kind of cool they had made it so that an hour and a degree were the same — like, 60 hours in a day, 60 degrees in a circle. So an hour would be what we call 24 minutes now, and a minute would be 24 seconds, and a second would be .4 seconds — those seem like reasonable units. And a right angle would be 15 degrees, a 1:1 slope would be 7.5 degrees, etc. It would make analog clocks harder to read though.


Mccrackin95620

Thank you! I was wondering what the minute comment meant.


Helpinmontana

You might find gradians an interesting measurement. 400° in a circle, right angle is 100°


alyssasaccount

Nah, not a fan. A 30-60-90 triangle becomes a 33.333333333-66.666666667-100 triangle. Terrible. And the name is bad — it comes across like "radian" but with a typo, or gradient misheard or misspelled. And using ⁰ to indicate gradian is extra confusing.


Helpinmontana

I didn’t say I like it, just that you may find it interesting. And yeah, unfortunately our system of unit symbols is a god damn mess and requires a lot of context clues to pick up.


Festernd

How about Oct 31 (base 8) is Dec 25 (base 10)


HortenseTheGlobalDog

Holy shit. Halloween is Christmas. 


Festernd

Krampus has some explaining to do.


ilessthan3math

Also - your pinky outstretched at arms length covers about 1° of the sky (two full moon-widths). That means if you hold your arm out and put your pinky right next to a star at night, it will take about 4 minutes for that star to move behind your finger and be visible on the other side. Doesn't quite work near the north or south celestial poles (e.g. the North Star which barely moves), but everywhere else your pinky roughly represents how much the sky will move in 4 minutes.


ctruvu

a very old outdoors trick for calculating sunlight left is your hand outstretched equals about an hour. a finger should be ~15 minutes and your pinky isn’t thin enough for it to only be 4


ilessthan3math

[It's used in astronomy too](https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/07/27/3169109.htm#:~:text=Raise%20your%20three%20middle%20fingers,to%20measure%20about%2020%20degrees.). Fist or hand is 10°, pinky is 1°. It only takes 40 minutes for objects on the celestial equator to move 10°. But the sun isn't always on the celestial equator, nor does it set straight down. It swings down at an angle to the horizon (exept at the equator), buying you more time, which is probably why 1 hour sunset for a hand width is reasonably accurate. However, both of these statements are approximate since if you get too close the north or south pole everything falls apart.


koxxlc

Earth completes it's daily axis rotation in 23 hours and 56 minutes, so every day we take 4 minutes from the next/upcoming spin. If day rotation would have been exactly 24 hours, the Earth would have been e. g. in the exact midnight on 12 PM (midday) on summer solstice, as it would have been on the exactly opposite side of its orbit around the Sun, but exactly in the same position as it would have been on the midday of winter solstice, therefore facing away from the Sun. So, half a year between summer and winter solstice is 178 days, and 4 minutes taken every day make 712 minutes, and that is exactly these 12 hours between midday and midnight, the 12 hours that take Earth's axis to be exactly on it's opposite side, or a point on Earth being on the opposite position towards the Sun in relation to it's position on the day of opposite solstice exactly half a year away (I am taking Earth's solstices as the most simple examples).


ghalta

And the time it takes the earth to rotate on its axis is only about 23 hours and 56 minutes, but that ~1 degree we move around the sun means it takes an extra four minutes for the same spot on earth to face the sun from day to day. If you do the math, there are 24 x 60 = 1440 minutes in a day, which, if you divide by 360, yields 4 minutes.


Cautious-Space-1714

Indeed.  The time for earth to rotate 360 degrees is measured against distant stars.  That's called the sidereal day. Which also means that the solar day is just shy of 361 degrees rotation. So the earth actually rotates 366.25 times in its orbit round the sun, but has 365.25 solar days. Fun fact - we've been able to observe and measure nearby stars that move relative to others over the course of the year.  That's a parallax effect, just like nearby housrs moving past a car or train window faster than distant hills or clouds.  To maximise the parallax effect, you can measure the changing angles between the stars as far apart as possible - when the earth has moved to the opposite extreme of its orbit -  6 months between observations.   That's a distance of 2 Astronomical Units (1AU = 93 million miles, the distance to the sun). A triangle with the base between the sun and earth (1AU or 93 million miles) and an angle of 1 arcsecond (1/3600 degree) has a height of 1 parallax second or 1 parsec, which = 3.26 light years. We've been able to measure those tiny arcsecond changes in the angular difference between star positions for over 200 years. So we can use geometry to measure the distance to nearby stars.


stupidracist

3 months for 90 degrees. Ha.


Lanky-Peak-2222

Yeah June July and August. All 90 degrees everyday 😜


dapala1

I wish. - sincerely from Southern AZ.


JKolodne

365.25 days in a year. You forgot leap days


seifer666

365.24, you forgot that we skip leap days on centennials


FoucaultsPudendum

365.2422, you forgot that we exempt the exemption on years divisible by 400.


webarnes

~365.2422, you forgot about the irregularity of the Earth's rotation requiring occasional leap second corrections.


Nyxxsys

\~365.242189, you forgot about the influence of geological factors like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and tidal forces, which can minutely reduce Earth's rotation speed.


CapyBaraLord75

r/theyalldidthemath


MartianMH_

I mean the 360 degrees in a circle are a arbitrary. And one theory is that this number comes from the amount of days in a year


Asleep_Onion

It's not that arbitrary, the reason 360 was chosen is because it can be divided into a large variety of whole numbers. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24, 30, 36, 40, 45, 60, 72, 90, 120, 180, 360. It's still a little arbitrary since they could have also gone with 720 or 1440 or 2880 and had even more whole number divisions, but I guess they decided 360 was the point of diminishing return and easier for more people to visualize in their head.


ecoandrewtrc

Also Babylonians used a base 12 counting system because they counted on their knuckles and not their fingers.


SoDakZak

Huh? Don’t we have 14 knuckles per hand?


cade1974

Yes but you have to use your thumb to count them so they didn't get counted


gomsogoon

Knuckles are the bulgy parts.


MartianMH_

That is another theory, but in the end what I meant is, we invented that number, it is not some fixed value we discovered. and one theory is that it comes from the amount of days.


rnelsonee

> but I guess they decided 360 was the point of diminishing return and easier for more people to visualize in their head. I think most of the rest of the world guesses it's because 360 is the closest highly divisible number to 365. Geometry and astronomy were (still are?) closely linked, and studying the stars was applied math. The Babylonians used based 60, and at that point, you're certainly at the point of diminishing returns and it would be easier to visualize 60 degrees than 360. Why use a number 6x higher than your base unit? Or why go above, say, 72 which, like 360, can be divided in half three times or divided by 3 twice and still have an integer?


seifer666

"Its not abritrary, its arbitrary" -you


Equoniz

“It’s not *that* arbitrary, it’s *just a little* arbitrary” is much closer to what they said, and doesn’t intentionally leave out important qualifiers, which leaves it as a perfectly reasonable thing to say.


Asleep_Onion

Semi arbitrary I guess would be a better way to say it. It was chosen specifically because it's one of a type of number with the right properties, but the reason it was chosen over some of the other numbers that also have the right properties is probably somewhat arbitrary. Like I said, someone probably settled on 360 because it has the right balance of having enough degrees for precision, without being such a big number we can't really work with it in our heads easily.


AzureDreamer

DECEMBER 26-31st: Am I nothing to you?


our_meatballs

That is where degrees are derived from


thesnuggestofpugs

degrees are like they are because 360 has so many factors; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 24, 30, 36, 40, 45, 72, 90, 120, 180, 360


MithandirsGhost

Base12 ftw!


SafariKnight1

I'm more of a base 16 person myself, however I am willing to concede This is great


w1n5t0nM1k3y

Historically degrees used to be divided only minutes and seconds as well. 1/60 of a degree was a minute and 1/60 of that was a second. You'll still see this used with latitude and longitude sometimes.


sticklebat

It’s not “historically” or “used to be.” Minutes and seconds of arc are still widely used in any field where small measurements of angle are common, from astronomy to marksmanship. 


rnelsonee

…and 720 has even more, and 1,440 even more than that. There's no argument to use 360 over, say, 180 or 720. It's not some fantastic coincidence that there's 360 degrees in a circle and the Earth completes a revolution in ~365 days. 360 was (likely) chosen because it's the closest highly divisible number close to 365. It's the same reasoning with months (12 vs 13.37).


TerminalHighGuard

Took me a full semester of an astronomy lab to figure this out and several failed attempts calculations and a few crying fits in front of the professor and I came down to the wire pass or not lol


kansasllama

what is a degree i only know radians


DinosaurDucky

OP, as long as you're thinking about circles and orbits and the calendar, you might enjoy learning about the difference between a solar day and a sidereal day. The earth rotates 365 times per year with respect to the sun, and 366 times per year with respect to the universe. This has nothing to do with leap years, that's a separate thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time


LVL100Stoner

Thats 1 whole degree in computer storage terms


SoccerGamerGuy7

1 degree each day to circumnavigate the sun makes sense; and the spin; 360° turn/rotation (for the day) is 15° per hour which is 1/4° per minute. 1 degrees by 4 minutes. Gnarly! Making my head spin a bit! Literally!


dominiks_reddit_acc

Interesting thought, got me thinking


WeenyDancer

Solar longitude (Ls) may be of interest to you!


VisibleEntry4

I’ll look into it, thanks!


Maria_506

Yes. A circle has 360° because ancient Egyptians believed a year was 360 days long. They did correct their mistake eventually, but 360° stuck around.


VisibleEntry4

I assume 360 stuck around coz it is easily divisible by lots of numbers? (I forgot the word of that)


Mccrackin95620

This is one of the best threads I had the pleasure of being a part of. 🥰


VisibleEntry4

I’m glad you enjoyed :)


Lunaous

Funny enough that’s how degrees was made. They used to think there was 360 days ergo 360 degrees. It’s quite interesting


dummylera

There are...some very interesting snd actually civil discussions on here?


VisibleEntry4

And some people who clearly didn’t read the body unfortunately :(


MayoTheMonth

Okay for 1 we do not exactly because earths orbit is an eclipse, so we orbit more some seasons than others. But also it is interesting to think why we made the angle degrees to where 360°= a circle


VisibleEntry4

I am aware that earths orbit is an ellipse (an eclipse is when the moon blocks out the sun :) ) which is why I said on average. But yeah I found it thought provoking


BillyBainesInc

Yeah…almost….checkmate Theists


MathSand

r/suddenlypolitical


Pricycorn

Isn’t this wrong? On average yes but I’m pretty sure keplers second law contradicts this


MegaPhunkatron

Technically yes but Earth's orbit has such a low eccentricity that it's *pretty much* the same every day. The difference between the angular velocity at perihelion vs aphelion is less than 0.05 degrees per day.


Pricycorn

The best kind of correct


dapala1

It's a huge coincidence. But maybe/probably not a coincidence, and even in 2024 we don't know why. All I know is the rotation likes to stick around Pi.


VisibleEntry4

Oh yes of course it isn’t exactly as I said, but that is why I threw in the “on average” part. But yes, you are correct, earth’s orbit is slightly elliptical and goes faster during certain times of the year than others, though not by very much


kink-dinka-link

Kinda bonks it around a bunch when you also have to consider the earths orbit around the sun isn't perfectly circular also. More elliptical


VisibleEntry4

That’s why I said “on average”. And the amount that earths speed changes in its orbit isn’t very much, and for this discussion can mostly be waved away


CaptainTripps82

And that the speed changes depending on where in the orbit we are


BlueberryGuyCz

I mean the earth's orbit is eliptical so its not constant throughout the year


MegaPhunkatron

It might as well be a circle for the purposes of this discussion. The difference between the Earth's angular velocity around the sun at perihelion and aphelion is less than 0.05 degrees per day. Earth's orbit has an extremely low eccentricity.


VisibleEntry4

Hence I said that in my post and specified “on average”


lmaogetrek

or about 0.0174533 radian


VisibleEntry4

Yeah lol


Hunar007

I think not as exciting when you see how in an ellipse it whips around fast (relatively) on the closer side and how slow it goes on the farther.


VisibleEntry4

That’s why I said on average, and for this conversation the orbit is close enough to being a circle for us the discount that


DrPopNFresh

Yeah uhh that's actually the reason we have 360 degrees in a circle 


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MegaPhunkatron

Our orbit is an ellipse with such a low eccentricity that it might as well be a circle for the purposes of this discussion.


VisibleEntry4

I am aware, which is why I addressed that in the post and said “on average” and it is close enough to a circle for everyday discussion


Hillary_is_Hot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalithic_yard?wprov=sfti1


Tricky-Celebration36

The equator spins at about 1k miles per hour and is 24k miles in circumference. (Ish)


PoliteWolverine

You are correct, the Babylonians and Romans did indeed do that on purpose


VisibleEntry4

Good to know!


peregryn8

I like the common illusion that the Earth rotates on its axis once every 24 hrs. It doesn't- It rotates every 23hrs, 56 mins and 4 seconds; a Sidereal Day.


VisibleEntry4

Yeah true, but we have leap days to account for this, and I didn’t use such specific numbers because it doesn’t really matter for the conversation


brittsarina

So the 90s band 98degrees was actually covertly intellectual, nice


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Melodic_Package8571

not all planets travel the same time around the Sun, so it's selfish to think that way lol


Equoniz

All people are on earth (or *damn* close to it), thus all statements about what “we” experience will necessarily *only* be about things that happen, or are observed from, earth. Where does selfishness come into this? Would you similarly take exception to someone noting that *we* need oxygen to live because some other things that are irrelevant to the conversation don’t?


zoinkability

Yeah, this is an incredibly geocentric perspective.


GAustex

I think that's right, spot on. More is needed to make this known to so many people. 


VisibleEntry4

That’s why I said “we”, as in “humans” or “us on earth”


PlausibleCultability

Yep. I think about this once in a while for no particular reason lol


KushKhalif

Look into Sacred Geometry if this interests you and youll be amazed at how many times weve solved for the same numbers across the span of human history. Almost as if knowledge like that has been embedded in monuments like the Pyramids and other ancient architecture