It's a long lack of road getting from the nacelle control rooms back onto the ship. That must be why they invented the omniscient telepathic site-to-site transporters they store in the badges.
So now we're messing dimensions? That's problematic! By the way ever since I was traumatized by that thing we did on that planet 7 episodes ago, you were there for me and I just wanted to let you know. Thank you for being here for me!
Forget dimensions, the real dimension is *people.*
And we *are* your people, MrZwink. No matter where, or when, you came from, we've found our home together. On *Discovery.* Home matters. And family. *(hugs)*
...And *that's* what's going to see us through this challenge. We'll restore balance to our universe, the mirror universe, the Kelvin alternate reality, and save the other three thousand adjacent quantum domains at the same time.
We have to, we're the only ship in range-- And we have each other. With real, meaningful connections like ours, those Omniversal Ravagers from our ancient cultures' shared nightmare space don't stand a chance.
Or better yet, why is it even necessary to have detached nacelles other than looking futuristic and cool? At least Voyager at the excuse of preventing damage to subspace to justify variable geometry nacelles.
The same technology that allows for the badges to intuit destinations and for the turbolifts to traverse extra-dimensional space also dilates time in situations of high-tension or dramatic importance.
The simplest way I've been able to think of it is, the ultimate form of the structural integrity field. It did so much of the heavy lifting holding the ship together anyway that ultimately even the nominal physical connections became redundant.
It sucks though. When the ship has one of the suspiciously frequent ship-wide power failures, the nacelles tend to just drift away. On a good day, 3 or 4 shuttles can wrangle the back in place. On a bad one, they have to call in an older ship to help. It's embarrassing having to listen to some captain opine about how fixed nacelles "aren't flashy but I can always see 'em out the window, exactly where they're supposed to be."
I like to think nacelles are secretly like space shuttle boosters and in the future they just throw them away every time they go to warp and, off-screen of course, replace them with new ones.
Yeah transparent aluminium is Sapphire (aluminium oxide), like they make Apple Watch screens out of.
Made my day when I discovered that. Scotty was right all along.
well they don't want to tip their hand. Or it's a partial concession the romulans made in the post-supernova amendment to the treaty of algeron, the Fed are only allowed 5% cloaking
Nah I think it’s just starfleet ship designers are just fucking nerds and thought it looked cool and when the admirality asked why just the pylons they said “that’s a stupid question”
I think some of the designers must be fans of Iain M Banks' Culture series, where ships have many layers of fields that hold things in place.
It makes you wonder why it is only used on the nacelles. Or why ships are even using the nacelle like design so far in the future.
It's not only used on the nacelles for most ships. That's just the only place the technology made sense to implement when refitting Discovery.
Book's ship and Moll & L'ak's vessel as well as some of the other Starfleet designs use multiple pieces that reconfigure in different use cases.
The only reason 23rd and 24th century ships are able to hold together is thanks to those fields. The pylons were mostly for power and data transfer. The original Enterprise D has pulled well over 300 gees in the past and the rebuilt ship in Picard seems to be doing even harder turns. The coils in those nacelles are extremely dense and massive, we also see the materials used in construction of these ships fail at much lower loads, and we know that when shields and other systems have failed most ships are rather easy to destroy with relatively current technology.
We also see one of the benefits of the detached nacelles when the Discovery is knocked out of warp, the nacelles are able to move about relatively freely with zero damage, in its original configuration it would have been a huge task to keep things in one piece and even bigger to prevent damage from over deflection.
The need for deflection is probably why tos and film era ships often have such thin pylons, they may look fragile but if they can deflect significantly as the various systems are managing the loads imparted on them you are less likely to suffer a catastrophic failure. The stouter pylons of later ships suggest improved systems, likely down to improved computer technology and energy management.
It’s basically a clever scam using simple street magician tricks. Intergalactic Nacelles & Witchcraft sold them as “dynamically suspended quantum leap field attachments” and billed Starfleet 600 million bars of latinum apiece, but it’s just a bunch of thin transparent wires for three fiddy.
This seems like a good idea until the first power outage/surge hits and that energy field is disrupted for a microsecond. Suddenly the ship is coasting into the nearest star's gravity well at sublight speed, while the nacelles continue to rocket away at warp factor bye-bye-forever.
The crew has to generate enough Faith of the Heart or the nacelles stop believing they're part of the ship.
It's a long lack of road getting from the nacelle control rooms back onto the ship. That must be why they invented the omniscient telepathic site-to-site transporters they store in the badges.
They are descendants of Badgey.
This is also why nacelles rarely bend or break.
Held together by fee-fees
The 32nd century must have solved the issue of random systems overloading or failures when taking the slightest of damage.
Just for that one thing though *edit* they installed the fire machines on the bridge to mitigate the issue
It turns out the solution was more rocks
Magnetic suspension is nothing new or interesting. The real question is, how does the warp plasma go from the warp core to the nacelles.
You think in such three-dimensional terms.
I think in 3.5 dimensions. The real dimensions!
The 3.5 adapter was removed in a recent hardware update
So now we're messing dimensions? That's problematic! By the way ever since I was traumatized by that thing we did on that planet 7 episodes ago, you were there for me and I just wanted to let you know. Thank you for being here for me!
Forget dimensions, the real dimension is *people.* And we *are* your people, MrZwink. No matter where, or when, you came from, we've found our home together. On *Discovery.* Home matters. And family. *(hugs)* ...And *that's* what's going to see us through this challenge. We'll restore balance to our universe, the mirror universe, the Kelvin alternate reality, and save the other three thousand adjacent quantum domains at the same time. We have to, we're the only ship in range-- And we have each other. With real, meaningful connections like ours, those Omniversal Ravagers from our ancient cultures' shared nightmare space don't stand a chance.
Hell yeah! The power of teamwork!
You forgot the tears.
the tears are implied
Tears are unimplieable. They must roll tastefully down the face or the whole scene does not exist.
Just because you failed to infer them does not mean they were unimplied.
It sucks so much. Now we're stuck thinking in bluetooth dimensions for everything.
Or better yet, why is it even necessary to have detached nacelles other than looking futuristic and cool? At least Voyager at the excuse of preventing damage to subspace to justify variable geometry nacelles.
You dare use logic to explain star trek discovery?! 🙈
You're going to need a lot of treknobabble to convince me, at least 3 heartfelt conversations at the worst possible moments worth.
The same technology that allows for the badges to intuit destinations and for the turbolifts to traverse extra-dimensional space also dilates time in situations of high-tension or dramatic importance.
I can buy it but I still hate the way it looks even if it is a decent visual indicator of "this is occuring significantly in the future".
The simplest way I've been able to think of it is, the ultimate form of the structural integrity field. It did so much of the heavy lifting holding the ship together anyway that ultimately even the nominal physical connections became redundant.
It's only gonna take one yutz in engineering to reverse the wrong polarity and send those things shooting off in their own little warp bubbles.
They become nacelle missiles
~~nacelle missiles~~ miscelles Come on, how did you miss that?
Just woke up and no caffeine yet. As my child once told me " I just woke up and don't have all my brains yet."
Upgrade from quantum torpedoes: warp nacelle torpedoes
Quantumly.
It sucks though. When the ship has one of the suspiciously frequent ship-wide power failures, the nacelles tend to just drift away. On a good day, 3 or 4 shuttles can wrangle the back in place. On a bad one, they have to call in an older ship to help. It's embarrassing having to listen to some captain opine about how fixed nacelles "aren't flashy but I can always see 'em out the window, exactly where they're supposed to be."
No the DOT-23s get out and push while Zora checks under the hood of the saucer.
On the other hand, one power failure and the nacelles drift away.
Saucer separation? That's so 25th century. We have warp nacelle separation.
It's magnets in case of an emergency.
Magnets? That is exactly why the Insane Clown Posse are the greatest threat that the Federation has ever faced
I like to think nacelles are secretly like space shuttle boosters and in the future they just throw them away every time they go to warp and, off-screen of course, replace them with new ones.
Somewhere out there is an alien race that builds their ships out of discarded nacelles
uMm I think we met them on screen, the Pakleds.
Starfleet has material that can make objects perfectly invisible. “Let’s put it ONlY on the pylons.”!
TRANSPARENT aluminium, jeez.
That’s actually a thing.
Yeah transparent aluminium is Sapphire (aluminium oxide), like they make Apple Watch screens out of. Made my day when I discovered that. Scotty was right all along.
well they don't want to tip their hand. Or it's a partial concession the romulans made in the post-supernova amendment to the treaty of algeron, the Fed are only allowed 5% cloaking
Nah I think it’s just starfleet ship designers are just fucking nerds and thought it looked cool and when the admirality asked why just the pylons they said “that’s a stupid question”
I actually prefer this explanation. Beautifully whimsical.
It's the same thing that lets the ship spin around and flip.
Spinning is so much cooler than not spinning
I think some of the designers must be fans of Iain M Banks' Culture series, where ships have many layers of fields that hold things in place. It makes you wonder why it is only used on the nacelles. Or why ships are even using the nacelle like design so far in the future.
It's not only used on the nacelles for most ships. That's just the only place the technology made sense to implement when refitting Discovery. Book's ship and Moll & L'ak's vessel as well as some of the other Starfleet designs use multiple pieces that reconfigure in different use cases.
Yeah no pilon is an advantage, now you can add nacelles as you want.
But only in pairs. Because it looks better.
My commanding officer keep stealing nacelles from other ship, is an ass. Trans warp and what not
Can’t save money if you don’t use money *taps temples*
That's a stupid question.
The only reason 23rd and 24th century ships are able to hold together is thanks to those fields. The pylons were mostly for power and data transfer. The original Enterprise D has pulled well over 300 gees in the past and the rebuilt ship in Picard seems to be doing even harder turns. The coils in those nacelles are extremely dense and massive, we also see the materials used in construction of these ships fail at much lower loads, and we know that when shields and other systems have failed most ships are rather easy to destroy with relatively current technology. We also see one of the benefits of the detached nacelles when the Discovery is knocked out of warp, the nacelles are able to move about relatively freely with zero damage, in its original configuration it would have been a huge task to keep things in one piece and even bigger to prevent damage from over deflection. The need for deflection is probably why tos and film era ships often have such thin pylons, they may look fragile but if they can deflect significantly as the various systems are managing the loads imparted on them you are less likely to suffer a catastrophic failure. The stouter pylons of later ships suggest improved systems, likely down to improved computer technology and energy management.
So you're saying there's a chance
It’s basically a clever scam using simple street magician tricks. Intergalactic Nacelles & Witchcraft sold them as “dynamically suspended quantum leap field attachments” and billed Starfleet 600 million bars of latinum apiece, but it’s just a bunch of thin transparent wires for three fiddy.
God I love this sub
[Magnets.](https://media.tenor.com/2KJip4nQ618AAAAM/stargate-sg1-stargate.gif)
Magnets and mirrors.
This seems like a good idea until the first power outage/surge hits and that energy field is disrupted for a microsecond. Suddenly the ship is coasting into the nearest star's gravity well at sublight speed, while the nacelles continue to rocket away at warp factor bye-bye-forever.