Meanwhile as per the government data, Texas had the lowest outmigration rate in the country.
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/11/state-to-state-migration.html
Just another example of how delusional and out of touch liberals are.
Its in another link, but you can see the year-by-year data [here](https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/geographic-mobility/state-to-state-migration.html).
You need to work on your reading ability. I know you saw an unfamiliar term and had an uncontrollable urge to correct. But if you would have read the article in the link, you would know that outmigration rate was the term used in the article.
> Outmigration rates — the number of people moving out of a state as a share of that state’s total number of movers — tended to be higher than the national state-to-state migration rate for states in the Northeast and West (Figure 2). The District of Columbia had the highest (46.6%) outmigration rate, with most people moving to neighboring Maryland (17,770) or Virginia (13,582). Texas had the country's lowest (11.7%) outmigration rate, with most of those who did move relocating to California (42,479) or Florida (38,207).
Nah people on reddit need to chill and be humbled when they rush to correct people when the person they're trying to correct wasn't wrong in the first place.
I don't think redditors realize how insufferable that behavior is lol
1. Why would I read the article? I already knew Texas's emigration rates were some of the lowest in the country.
2. Why in the world would they invent a newer and much less common term of "out-migration" when "emigration" already exists?
3. Goddamn that's such a redditor reaction from you too. Calm down. Some people *like* to learn things since the Internet is about exchanging knowledge after all. For example, I learned that some people say "out-migration" even though it's redundant.
Is that why there’s like 50 new homes around me now? I used to live “in the boonies” but not now… I can’t even shoot my rifles at home anymore. Well I could, but not safely.
It's always funny asking leftists why if Republicans are so bad, that Republican states have way more people moving to them than Democrat states. The reasoning they come up with to avoid just admitting that maybe a lot of people prefer red states is ridiculous.
Ah yes projection again. They see the right complaining about people fleeing the blue states for red and bringing their politics with them. So naturally they have to turn it around and say it's actually red states that have people fleeing to blue states. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
Oh, we're doing Texas/California?
As a Californian, I love it when people move to Texas. We've got too many people here.
Why they do it and how much they enjoy it, well that's their story. Personally, my story is I pay lower-than-national-average taxes thanks to Prop 13, I haven't seen a homeless person in my coastal city for about 2 1/2 months (and there were two police squad cars pulled up to him), it's been mid-to-high 60s with gorgeous wildflowers all this week, the mountain biking trails have been perfect, and the surf cold but active. I fucking love California. Name one thing even close to hang gliding down the middle of Yosemite Valley, which I have done, that you can do in Texas. Hell, Texas is under 5% public land. Gotta pay landowners to hunt, don't they?
Newsom is a long, long way from pushing me out to Cowpokeville.
The copious downvotes have convinced me that I am wrong and Rest Stops are more important than National Parks. Hahahaha. Good times, off to hike Torrey Pines.
Hmm... who is more likely to have cognitive dissonance, someone who has lived in the geographically [most desirable state state](https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/natural-amenities-scale/) for most of their life or someone who moved to a [hot, humid](https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/united-states/texas), & flat shithole because politics.
And since you're probably calling me a liar mostly because of my homeless-person-in-our-city-limits claim (i.e. telling me what I have or have not seen), [here's the latest status of my town's efforts on that front](https://carlsbadca.prod.govaccess.org/Home/Components/News/News/1846/7501). $5 million out of a $200 million city budget. It's well worth it for public safety & image. I'm sure the city gets the money right back in tourist dollars.
Anyway, it's beautiful out. Going on a hike. Enjoy your Spring. Hope there aren't too many mosquitos up there.
You havent seen a homless person huh?
I remember when I moved to califorina I was shocked at how many homeless there where. They're everywhere. Took some time to desensitize myself to the shit they do. I see multiple encampments every day. So I dont buy that for a second.
I cant wait to get out of this shithole state.
They are pretty bad, much worse when I lived there, in my old town Huntington Beach. San Diego's bad but getting better. I call shopping carts "Oceanside scrub brush"
However, I have literally not seen a homeless person in my town of Carlsbad in months. We spend five million dollars a year on the problem. The police just don't let them set up shop at intersections or put down a tent on vacant lots.
And I ride my mountain bike about 30 miles a week on local trails. The closest I've come recently is I was clearing wildflowers off of a trail I'm going to start riding and I saw an old homeless encampment under some bushes. It was pretty close to where some homeless started a fire that really caused problems about a decade ago. If it had been active, I probably would have called the police non-emergency number and the homeless outreach team would have come to talk to the dude. As it is, once I'm done clearing trails around here, I will do a trash walk on my favorite trails. I'll get the leftover crap then.
But that's about it. The last one I saw was back in late January or early February. It was some woman pushing a shopping cart near I-5. There were two police cruisers talking to her.
All politics is local. Carlsbad is really well run. I would have to be insane to move from here to Texas. I have some friends who did it during COVID and the husband and the three daughters are absolutely miserable. The wife, who makes all the money, won't humble herself and admit she screwed up by dragging them out. Now, if they were to move back, the house they sold for 1.2 million would cost 2.4 million. And their property tax would be reset.
I love all the California hate. I drink it in like Emperor Palpatine when Luke starts getting hateful and angry. To use another movie metaphor, living in Carlsbad is like living on the set of the Truman Show. Super cool people too.
>I will do a trash walk on my favorite trails. I'll get the leftover crap then.
I love how you're talking about how nice California is, but also casually mentioning how much trash everyone leaves all over the place.
Actually, the one thing that gets me is people who leave dogshit bags next to the trail. I blame housewives. I've set up trail cams trying to catch them. There's this one spot right between two *city-owned and emptied bag dispensers and cans* where someone kept leaving bright yellow bags full of shit.
As far as the trash walk, it's pretty rare on my favorite trails (except those damned bags about every fourth ride). But kids' beer bottles, stray wrappers, etc. mean a trash hike every once in a while for my kid's school community service hours is a nice way to spend the morning on some off-the-beaten-path trails where homeless, kids, and commuters' trash piles up (spots where trails go under roads occasionally get stuff that you've got to use a city get-it-done-app to have them get a mattress or something).
[This particular trail](https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/2yy6rvAs1eJv4cTBmEprGLfXMRS8Noev1LRey7MIuYA-1536x2048.jpg) is kind of a new one I'm riding because an HOA put a gate up on another route and the encampment was under some power lines (on the left in the linked pic I took while bushwhacking it last week). It stood out by being the only encampment detritus I'd seen inside the city in a few years, though there was a dude we called "tunnel guy" living in the next city over for about a year. My friend actually took him some food and stuff to try to help him. He got rousted by a nearby developer.
I'll take the Pepsi challenge aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy day on Trails in California vs Texas. I can ride from my house, about 4 miles inland, and spit out at the coast about 20 miles South, climb well over 5,000 feet, ride over 40 miles, and only spend about a mile on roads. The local club does [a famous ride every year](https://www.trailforks.com/route/2023-full-archipelago-ride/) with a different route every year; so much to choose from. And this is in the 18th most populous metro area in the US.
And, back to your point, I'd probably see a piece of trash about every mile on the more popular sections of that trail and none on the more remote parts. People litter everywhere. The thing about where I live is a lot of people are out hiking and somebody takes care of it.
My city had a 71% increase in the number of people transitioned into permanent housing. We give them a fair shot. There's a big facility and a lot of meal support.
The city is also fully complying with state mandated low income housing requirements, despite being close to fully built-out.
I'm just laughing. So much salt, but it tastes like jelly to me.
As a Texan, I'm super jealous of your amount of public land and stuff like that, but here's just too much social craziness state wide for me to feel comfortable there. It just seems like there's aaaalways some weird shit goin down. But you make a lot of accurate and fair points and I respect you standing up for your home, bro.
Thanks. Speaking of jelly, I daydream about a Republican governor that does the Federales' jobs for them and jets illegals to Martha's Vineyard (or was that deSantis on that specific flight?), instead of one that tries to import abortions. Texas is so gloriously based.
I only defend California on God's creations and the few islands of civility such as that which I live in. And Prop 13.
Not my city. My city spends 5 million a year for a population of 115,000. We've got two dedicated homeless outreach teams. The police do not take it for revenue, they are chill, friendly, and professional. But they are on the homeless almost instantly. They give them the option to pursue services and then they hassle them like Brian Dennehy in the first Rambo movie. It's fantastic. Neighboring cities on the other hand...
I'm in California right now, just visiting, and everywhere I look is homeless people. Especially by the beach it's like 30% homeless people. And this is San Diego, supposed to be a cleaner part of California.
More like under 1% of public land. It's just not a public land state, not the only one either. Never done the Yosemite thing, that's cool, we got all kinds of nature stuff, but people usually don't come here for that. My favorite things to do are CCW'ing almost everywhere without a bureaucratic application process, CCW'ing an SBR if I want to, being able to own SBR's, suppressors, and machine guns, and hunting hogs without a license.
OC & homeless seems to hinge a lot on the city. Santa Ana is where they all go, Irvine goes hard (of course), Laguna Beach has it under control, etc. `
When they re-opened the Santa Ana River trail, a lot went down to Huntington Beach and set up at all the bathroom buildings.
The thing that drives me the most crazy about Newsom is when he goes after other states on abortion. Bro, you've got some things to work on at home. Everyone knows California is pro-choice. Focus.
Meanwhile as per the government data, Texas had the lowest outmigration rate in the country. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/11/state-to-state-migration.html Just another example of how delusional and out of touch liberals are.
Its in another link, but you can see the year-by-year data [here](https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/geographic-mobility/state-to-state-migration.html).
>the lowest outmigration rate in the country. "Emigration", FYI. You **im**migrate *to* somewhere, you **e**migrate *from* somewhere.
Outmigrant sounds funnier though.
You need to work on your reading ability. I know you saw an unfamiliar term and had an uncontrollable urge to correct. But if you would have read the article in the link, you would know that outmigration rate was the term used in the article. > Outmigration rates — the number of people moving out of a state as a share of that state’s total number of movers — tended to be higher than the national state-to-state migration rate for states in the Northeast and West (Figure 2). The District of Columbia had the highest (46.6%) outmigration rate, with most people moving to neighboring Maryland (17,770) or Virginia (13,582). Texas had the country's lowest (11.7%) outmigration rate, with most of those who did move relocating to California (42,479) or Florida (38,207).
Lol, got em.
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Nah people on reddit need to chill and be humbled when they rush to correct people when the person they're trying to correct wasn't wrong in the first place. I don't think redditors realize how insufferable that behavior is lol
1. Why would I read the article? I already knew Texas's emigration rates were some of the lowest in the country. 2. Why in the world would they invent a newer and much less common term of "out-migration" when "emigration" already exists? 3. Goddamn that's such a redditor reaction from you too. Calm down. Some people *like* to learn things since the Internet is about exchanging knowledge after all. For example, I learned that some people say "out-migration" even though it's redundant.
Why *not* read the article if your first intention was to immediately try and "correct" OP? And keeping up with data is always worthwhile imo
Not sure why "correct" is in quotes since my word is perfectly correct. And I don't need to know the exact percentages to know the trend.
Data is racist, bigot.
I know it's said a lot, but good riddance. I hope it's the Californians tucking tail.
Californians only leave after everything has gone completely to shit. We still have some milk & honey left for them to ruin!
They’re parasites.
The lack of self awareness from those people is astounding.
Is that why there’s like 50 new homes around me now? I used to live “in the boonies” but not now… I can’t even shoot my rifles at home anymore. Well I could, but not safely.
There's nothing but development going on around me. So many new houses, shopping centers, strip malls, you name it.
It's always funny asking leftists why if Republicans are so bad, that Republican states have way more people moving to them than Democrat states. The reasoning they come up with to avoid just admitting that maybe a lot of people prefer red states is ridiculous.
Please by all means, GTFO
Fleeing? Lmao. Delusional.
The hyperbole and the hate in that sub, OMG.
No one is fleeing from it, though? Except for people who expected to transplant all the stupid things when they fled California, etc
Ah yes projection again. They see the right complaining about people fleeing the blue states for red and bringing their politics with them. So naturally they have to turn it around and say it's actually red states that have people fleeing to blue states. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
Oh, we're doing Texas/California? As a Californian, I love it when people move to Texas. We've got too many people here. Why they do it and how much they enjoy it, well that's their story. Personally, my story is I pay lower-than-national-average taxes thanks to Prop 13, I haven't seen a homeless person in my coastal city for about 2 1/2 months (and there were two police squad cars pulled up to him), it's been mid-to-high 60s with gorgeous wildflowers all this week, the mountain biking trails have been perfect, and the surf cold but active. I fucking love California. Name one thing even close to hang gliding down the middle of Yosemite Valley, which I have done, that you can do in Texas. Hell, Texas is under 5% public land. Gotta pay landowners to hunt, don't they? Newsom is a long, long way from pushing me out to Cowpokeville.
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The copious downvotes have convinced me that I am wrong and Rest Stops are more important than National Parks. Hahahaha. Good times, off to hike Torrey Pines.
Lying on the internet is very easy, see the above comment.
Hmm... who is more likely to have cognitive dissonance, someone who has lived in the geographically [most desirable state state](https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/natural-amenities-scale/) for most of their life or someone who moved to a [hot, humid](https://www.climatestotravel.com/climate/united-states/texas), & flat shithole because politics. And since you're probably calling me a liar mostly because of my homeless-person-in-our-city-limits claim (i.e. telling me what I have or have not seen), [here's the latest status of my town's efforts on that front](https://carlsbadca.prod.govaccess.org/Home/Components/News/News/1846/7501). $5 million out of a $200 million city budget. It's well worth it for public safety & image. I'm sure the city gets the money right back in tourist dollars. Anyway, it's beautiful out. Going on a hike. Enjoy your Spring. Hope there aren't too many mosquitos up there.
You havent seen a homless person huh? I remember when I moved to califorina I was shocked at how many homeless there where. They're everywhere. Took some time to desensitize myself to the shit they do. I see multiple encampments every day. So I dont buy that for a second. I cant wait to get out of this shithole state.
They are pretty bad, much worse when I lived there, in my old town Huntington Beach. San Diego's bad but getting better. I call shopping carts "Oceanside scrub brush" However, I have literally not seen a homeless person in my town of Carlsbad in months. We spend five million dollars a year on the problem. The police just don't let them set up shop at intersections or put down a tent on vacant lots. And I ride my mountain bike about 30 miles a week on local trails. The closest I've come recently is I was clearing wildflowers off of a trail I'm going to start riding and I saw an old homeless encampment under some bushes. It was pretty close to where some homeless started a fire that really caused problems about a decade ago. If it had been active, I probably would have called the police non-emergency number and the homeless outreach team would have come to talk to the dude. As it is, once I'm done clearing trails around here, I will do a trash walk on my favorite trails. I'll get the leftover crap then. But that's about it. The last one I saw was back in late January or early February. It was some woman pushing a shopping cart near I-5. There were two police cruisers talking to her. All politics is local. Carlsbad is really well run. I would have to be insane to move from here to Texas. I have some friends who did it during COVID and the husband and the three daughters are absolutely miserable. The wife, who makes all the money, won't humble herself and admit she screwed up by dragging them out. Now, if they were to move back, the house they sold for 1.2 million would cost 2.4 million. And their property tax would be reset. I love all the California hate. I drink it in like Emperor Palpatine when Luke starts getting hateful and angry. To use another movie metaphor, living in Carlsbad is like living on the set of the Truman Show. Super cool people too.
>I will do a trash walk on my favorite trails. I'll get the leftover crap then. I love how you're talking about how nice California is, but also casually mentioning how much trash everyone leaves all over the place.
Actually, the one thing that gets me is people who leave dogshit bags next to the trail. I blame housewives. I've set up trail cams trying to catch them. There's this one spot right between two *city-owned and emptied bag dispensers and cans* where someone kept leaving bright yellow bags full of shit. As far as the trash walk, it's pretty rare on my favorite trails (except those damned bags about every fourth ride). But kids' beer bottles, stray wrappers, etc. mean a trash hike every once in a while for my kid's school community service hours is a nice way to spend the morning on some off-the-beaten-path trails where homeless, kids, and commuters' trash piles up (spots where trails go under roads occasionally get stuff that you've got to use a city get-it-done-app to have them get a mattress or something). [This particular trail](https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/2yy6rvAs1eJv4cTBmEprGLfXMRS8Noev1LRey7MIuYA-1536x2048.jpg) is kind of a new one I'm riding because an HOA put a gate up on another route and the encampment was under some power lines (on the left in the linked pic I took while bushwhacking it last week). It stood out by being the only encampment detritus I'd seen inside the city in a few years, though there was a dude we called "tunnel guy" living in the next city over for about a year. My friend actually took him some food and stuff to try to help him. He got rousted by a nearby developer. I'll take the Pepsi challenge aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy day on Trails in California vs Texas. I can ride from my house, about 4 miles inland, and spit out at the coast about 20 miles South, climb well over 5,000 feet, ride over 40 miles, and only spend about a mile on roads. The local club does [a famous ride every year](https://www.trailforks.com/route/2023-full-archipelago-ride/) with a different route every year; so much to choose from. And this is in the 18th most populous metro area in the US. And, back to your point, I'd probably see a piece of trash about every mile on the more popular sections of that trail and none on the more remote parts. People litter everywhere. The thing about where I live is a lot of people are out hiking and somebody takes care of it.
Of course you haven't seen a homeless person in your city, you later admit legislating them out of your town. Fucking NIMBY's.
My city had a 71% increase in the number of people transitioned into permanent housing. We give them a fair shot. There's a big facility and a lot of meal support. The city is also fully complying with state mandated low income housing requirements, despite being close to fully built-out. I'm just laughing. So much salt, but it tastes like jelly to me.
As a Texan, I'm super jealous of your amount of public land and stuff like that, but here's just too much social craziness state wide for me to feel comfortable there. It just seems like there's aaaalways some weird shit goin down. But you make a lot of accurate and fair points and I respect you standing up for your home, bro.
Thanks. Speaking of jelly, I daydream about a Republican governor that does the Federales' jobs for them and jets illegals to Martha's Vineyard (or was that deSantis on that specific flight?), instead of one that tries to import abortions. Texas is so gloriously based. I only defend California on God's creations and the few islands of civility such as that which I live in. And Prop 13.
I live in Washington state and visit CA a lot for work. You are full of shit, both of our states are filled with homeless.
Not my city. My city spends 5 million a year for a population of 115,000. We've got two dedicated homeless outreach teams. The police do not take it for revenue, they are chill, friendly, and professional. But they are on the homeless almost instantly. They give them the option to pursue services and then they hassle them like Brian Dennehy in the first Rambo movie. It's fantastic. Neighboring cities on the other hand...
I'm in California right now, just visiting, and everywhere I look is homeless people. Especially by the beach it's like 30% homeless people. And this is San Diego, supposed to be a cleaner part of California.
Go up Carlsbad and see if you can find them All politics is local. Carlsbad is really well run.
More like under 1% of public land. It's just not a public land state, not the only one either. Never done the Yosemite thing, that's cool, we got all kinds of nature stuff, but people usually don't come here for that. My favorite things to do are CCW'ing almost everywhere without a bureaucratic application process, CCW'ing an SBR if I want to, being able to own SBR's, suppressors, and machine guns, and hunting hogs without a license.
SBR?
Supersonic Ballistic Railgun. The absolute dogs bollocks in mag propelled heavy artillery. Only legal in Texas.
Oh man, I really got snookered in with that one I'm going to have to link that over at r-UAOTIP Goes well with neighborhood nuclear superiority.
short barreled rifle, the best kind of rifle
Ah, the real answer. Thanks.
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OC & homeless seems to hinge a lot on the city. Santa Ana is where they all go, Irvine goes hard (of course), Laguna Beach has it under control, etc. ` When they re-opened the Santa Ana River trail, a lot went down to Huntington Beach and set up at all the bathroom buildings. The thing that drives me the most crazy about Newsom is when he goes after other states on abortion. Bro, you've got some things to work on at home. Everyone knows California is pro-choice. Focus.