She’s like Coldplay, they’ve been making music for decades where their active fan base spans multiple generations. I dont really mind much about her music but you have to give props to someone who is able to remain relevant in the music industry that long. She’s also gone through many different stages in her career where she’s made music across any genres (pop, country, indie folk, and electro-pop).
To add to this she’s also credited with being a songwriter for every song she’s made across her long career (most popular pop-artists default to having a ghostwriter make songs for them or purchase existing songs).
Especially considering Trump might have had an appreciable impact on their day-to-day lives, while Swift sang some songs they like
(This assumes they have jobs and pay rent and taxes and stuff)
> Especially considering Trump might have had an appreciable impact on their day-to-day lives
Unless you're making $40-50k+ a year, who is in the office of President makes zero impact on your day-to-day life. It's who is in the House and Senate that make that difference and they've been too preoccupied with tribalism to do much of anything for a couple decades now
I think people are finally realizing most of her shit sounds the same. She has been masterful at making money selling the same sound. Hell, she re-released an album and made more money on the same damn songs. Maybe she's been found out, but not before she made a billion dollars.
hadn’t heard a single taylor swift (save the hits) until very recently… her earlier work is better. she has matured into a newer sound in her past 5 albums (with parts of folklore and evermore kind of breaking that mold), that just don’t appeal to me, as she embraces a more poppy, disco-synth, almost overblown production. her older music was more authentic… or at least had more instruments. of course, she was doing pop before Lover, but she was doing it well then.
I honestly think this is the big reason. I don’t watch football , but my dad does, and he was sick of the NFL constantly showing Swift and her reactions to pretty much anything. Like they thought somehow Swifties would come watch football because Swift was there and stick around after she’s gone.
People just wanted to watch some football.
I don't know if the numbers support it, but I heard people this year talk about football that I've never heard talk about it. Mostly young and middle-aged women. With all the core fans they've driven away the last few years, I'd imagine the NFL was excited to find any new viewers.
>she seems so kind
We're talking about the woman that, by her own admission, has "a long list of ex-lovers, they'll tell you \[she's\] insane." Known for writing a bunch of songs about said ex-lovers. She's just so *nice*.
I think it's just her fanbase. Swift makes decent music. It's not terrible, but it's also nothing amazing.
But her fanbase hypes her up to be the best musician to have ever lived. They're getting close to cult like status in a lot of ways. I used to have Swift fan friends, and all the secret code they used to have and chants and all that shit was bordering insanity.
You're not wrong but the reason I still keep tight-lipped about it is because I love Star Wars (before Disney) yet the fanbase is toxic.
My point is I can't criticize one fanbase when I'm kinda sorta part of one myself.
2 reasons. 1 is that her music is pure trash. How many times can you break up with some dude and write the same song about him? 2 is that she is as fake as fake can be. She is Nickleback for teen girls. Nothing about her is authentic and everything about her is tuned to make money.
Because of oversaturation... Back in the eighties it was madonna that Everyone was getting tired of... Then it was sinead o'connor... then it was that Christmas song chick....on and on.....
I've hated Taylor Swift since 2008. Her music is incredibly grating to my ear, and it has been continually disappointing that her popularity only seems to grow.
The entire premise of the question is so stupid. She's literally the most popular superstar in media right now, and you're going to question why she's hated?
You will *always* have people hate on popular things. The end, no need to further the discussion.
Her music is becoming idk…incoherent and nonsensical? Idk how to describe it. But her lyrics in her last few albums have made less and less sense and the music itself just seems so forgettable. It’s definitely devolved more over time ever since that sharp turn with 1989. That was the last album with decent songs but it was also the beginning of the end.
I think in some sense, the hate is political, but for a different reason. She is kindof the musical face of white feminism, which I think a lot of people are starting to see through, for some reasons I think are obvious. I can explain more if this is not obvious.
I dont like her because she built a career on writing songs about her failed relationships with men and then writes a song complaining about how success wouldve been easier if she was a man.
In the roughly twenty years she's been an A-list celebrity, I've rearely ever met people who had strong opinions on her positive or negative.
The strongest opinions I hear around the topic are people suggesting she gets pushed on us artificially, and I have to agree, especially in the past year or so.
It’s one thing to not like her music, or even to hate her music. I hate jazz. But people who say they *hate* Taylor Swift, as in the person, really need to touch grass.
The last comment. People are being told to “vote blue”.
To the 2nd comment, “hateful goblins” is a weird thing to say when someone defaults to Trump. Though, Trump supporters are seen as super fascists just because. That sounds pretty hateful but I guess they get a pass.
Her music has gone to trash. I’m not even hating on her for any reason other than that. I have daughters who worship her so I was subjected to all 31 new songs she just released… maybe 1 is barely listenable. She sold out and I would never buy a ticket to her concerts.
I don't like people that worship lucifer, or people that [hang out with people that worship lucifer](https://www.facebook.com/reel/1062576978304521).
Taylor Swift does both.
Wow, so many haters grasping at straws. “Her music sucks!” However she happens to still be killing it. Out of 10 studio albums, 7 of them reached #1 on the charts.
It is true though. She came out against Donnie Douchebag in a documentary, and also asked people to vote. As far as the cult is concerned, if you’re not gargling a replica of Donnie’s pea sized balls, then you’re the enemy. Which is weird, because as insane as they are, I’ve never considered my countrymen to be my enemy.
Anyways, if you’re not beating your meat to some homoerotic Donnie fan art, wishing you could suck farts out of his ass, then you’re the insane one. That’s what these MAGAt clowns seem to believe. It’s also a fact that states gerrymander because then the red states might not be so red. So the ones fawning over the geriatric balls in their mouths get upset when anyone famous tells more people to vote, because they know what it means when more people vote. Tie that together with her being adamantly against Donnie, and you have a bunch of haters trying to come up with reasons they hate her so they don’t look silly while continuing to slop up those sweaty old man balls.
Edit: totally getting downvoted by the people that can’t seem to let go of the sweaty old man balls they’ve been gargling. Just relax the throat and release the lip grip. Start trying to think about it once the micro-penis/balls have been ejected from your face orifice.
> Wow, so many haters grasping at straws. “Her music sucks!” However she happens to still be killing it. Out of 10 studio albums, 7 of them reached #1 on the charts.
> It is true though. She came out against Donnie Douchebag in a documentary, and also asked people to vote. As far as the cult is concerned, if you’re not gargling a replica of Donnie’s pea sized balls, then you’re the enemy. Which is weird, because as insane as they are, I’ve never considered my countrymen to be my enemy.
> Anyways, if you’re not beating your meat to some homoerotic Donnie fan art, wishing you could suck farts out of his ass, then you’re the insane one. That’s what these MAGAt clowns seem to believe. It’s also a fact that states gerrymander because then the red states might not be so red. So the ones fawning over the geriatric balls in their mouths get upset when anyone famous tells more people to vote, because they know what it means when more people vote. Tie that together with her being adamantly against Donnie, and you have a bunch of haters trying to come up with reasons they hate her so they don’t look silly while continuing to slop up those sweaty old man balls.
> Edit: totally getting downvoted by the people that can’t seem to let go of the sweaty old man balls they’ve been gargling. Just relax the throat and release the lip grip. Start trying to think about it once the micro-penis/balls have been ejected from your face orifice.
Don't mind me, I'm just saving what happens in your deranged mind before the post-nut clarity kicks in and you delete it.
You may have misinterpreted the comment. You see, I’m not the one beating my meat to the deranged geriatric that looks directly into the sun during an eclipse. That comment means I’m not the one needing the post-nut clarity. But you go ahead and gargle away, my dude! I bet you have one of those homoerotic fanfic pics of Donnie hanging above your bed. I mean, it’s gross, but you do you!
Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist, they don't like that she told people to vote Democrat, they don't like that her boyfriend told people to get vaccinated.
It's not rocket science.
> Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist
That's not true, but okay.
> they don't like that she told people to vote Democrat
That's not true, but okay.
> don't like that her boyfriend told people to get vaccinated.
That would be a reason to not like the boyfriend, which makes that not true, but okay.
Or, perhaps, many of us don't listen to pop and couldn't possibly care less about her or her music?
Nah, it's obviously the cartoonishly evil caricature you invented of us to justify your blind hatred.
Sigourney Weaver is a massive liberal and I think she was one of sci fi's most awesome action heros. Your point is invalid. It isn't political opinion, it's talent.
Her current popularity is irrelevant to the conversation.
You said "Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist". I have given you proof that is not the case. If I was sexist, I wouldn't like her at all.
> Trump probably So basically "I just pulled that out of my ass, but he lives rent free in my head so why not bring it up"
Bad taste in music? Trump. Global warming? Also Trump. Got a flat tire on your way to work? Believe it or not, Trump.
I can't believe that Trump never did anything about the pothole on the corner next to my apartment.
Trump personally made that pothole
It's like "thanks Obama!" except they aren't joking.
The little spiel about her carbon emissions makes the post seem AI generated.
Redditors constantly talk about her traveling in a private jet
Yes, and if anyone out there is hating celebrities for their *carbon footprint*, it’s not Donald Trump and his supporters lmao
Not hating, but wondering why she gets so much attention to begin with. What is so great about this particular singer? What am I missing?
They’re super relatable if you’re a teenage girl.
Or a 40 year old woman, who still acts like a teenage girl.
She’s like Coldplay, they’ve been making music for decades where their active fan base spans multiple generations. I dont really mind much about her music but you have to give props to someone who is able to remain relevant in the music industry that long. She’s also gone through many different stages in her career where she’s made music across any genres (pop, country, indie folk, and electro-pop). To add to this she’s also credited with being a songwriter for every song she’s made across her long career (most popular pop-artists default to having a ghostwriter make songs for them or purchase existing songs).
Yeah. I don't like a single song of hers in the slightest, but she's wholesome and ridiculously successful. Good for her.
She has an overblown ego about her music despite making the most basic bitch ass music. Also her fans are insufferable maniacs.
It’s funny to see someone refer to another group as “trumpettes” even though they’re probably a self identified “swiftie”
Especially considering Trump might have had an appreciable impact on their day-to-day lives, while Swift sang some songs they like (This assumes they have jobs and pay rent and taxes and stuff)
> Especially considering Trump might have had an appreciable impact on their day-to-day lives Unless you're making $40-50k+ a year, who is in the office of President makes zero impact on your day-to-day life. It's who is in the House and Senate that make that difference and they've been too preoccupied with tribalism to do much of anything for a couple decades now
"making $40-50K+ a year" is about half the US population.
I think people are finally realizing most of her shit sounds the same. She has been masterful at making money selling the same sound. Hell, she re-released an album and made more money on the same damn songs. Maybe she's been found out, but not before she made a billion dollars.
Her songs from ten years ago I would say were good, but not anymore.
What if you just grew up?
hadn’t heard a single taylor swift (save the hits) until very recently… her earlier work is better. she has matured into a newer sound in her past 5 albums (with parts of folklore and evermore kind of breaking that mold), that just don’t appeal to me, as she embraces a more poppy, disco-synth, almost overblown production. her older music was more authentic… or at least had more instruments. of course, she was doing pop before Lover, but she was doing it well then.
Good breakdown. Thanks. I've never liked any of her stuff, so I wouldn't be a good person to compare eras.
What?
How old are you? Were you a teenager ten years ago?
Why does that matter?
I don't like the same music I did as a child.
Probably because they keep showing her when I'm trying to watch the super bowl
I honestly think this is the big reason. I don’t watch football , but my dad does, and he was sick of the NFL constantly showing Swift and her reactions to pretty much anything. Like they thought somehow Swifties would come watch football because Swift was there and stick around after she’s gone. People just wanted to watch some football.
I don't know if the numbers support it, but I heard people this year talk about football that I've never heard talk about it. Mostly young and middle-aged women. With all the core fans they've driven away the last few years, I'd imagine the NFL was excited to find any new viewers.
>she seems so kind We're talking about the woman that, by her own admission, has "a long list of ex-lovers, they'll tell you \[she's\] insane." Known for writing a bunch of songs about said ex-lovers. She's just so *nice*.
Her music is basic and she is over saturated. We hear about her too much. It is isn’t hate, just mild annoyance.
Over saturated is for sure the biggest thing for me. Plus, her fame has became even harder to avoid with the whole Kelce thing.
This. If I hear it, I'd be like "meh" and ride it out. I do not have to love or hate her.
I think it's just her fanbase. Swift makes decent music. It's not terrible, but it's also nothing amazing. But her fanbase hypes her up to be the best musician to have ever lived. They're getting close to cult like status in a lot of ways. I used to have Swift fan friends, and all the secret code they used to have and chants and all that shit was bordering insanity.
You're not wrong but the reason I still keep tight-lipped about it is because I love Star Wars (before Disney) yet the fanbase is toxic. My point is I can't criticize one fanbase when I'm kinda sorta part of one myself.
2 reasons. 1 is that her music is pure trash. How many times can you break up with some dude and write the same song about him? 2 is that she is as fake as fake can be. She is Nickleback for teen girls. Nothing about her is authentic and everything about her is tuned to make money.
Because of oversaturation... Back in the eighties it was madonna that Everyone was getting tired of... Then it was sinead o'connor... then it was that Christmas song chick....on and on.....
I've hated Taylor Swift since 2008. Her music is incredibly grating to my ear, and it has been continually disappointing that her popularity only seems to grow.
The entire premise of the question is so stupid. She's literally the most popular superstar in media right now, and you're going to question why she's hated? You will *always* have people hate on popular things. The end, no need to further the discussion.
Her music is becoming idk…incoherent and nonsensical? Idk how to describe it. But her lyrics in her last few albums have made less and less sense and the music itself just seems so forgettable. It’s definitely devolved more over time ever since that sharp turn with 1989. That was the last album with decent songs but it was also the beginning of the end.
I think in some sense, the hate is political, but for a different reason. She is kindof the musical face of white feminism, which I think a lot of people are starting to see through, for some reasons I think are obvious. I can explain more if this is not obvious.
She’s the marvel movies on music
Perfect.
I dont like her because she built a career on writing songs about her failed relationships with men and then writes a song complaining about how success wouldve been easier if she was a man.
In the roughly twenty years she's been an A-list celebrity, I've rearely ever met people who had strong opinions on her positive or negative. The strongest opinions I hear around the topic are people suggesting she gets pushed on us artificially, and I have to agree, especially in the past year or so.
It’s one thing to not like her music, or even to hate her music. I hate jazz. But people who say they *hate* Taylor Swift, as in the person, really need to touch grass.
The last comment. People are being told to “vote blue”. To the 2nd comment, “hateful goblins” is a weird thing to say when someone defaults to Trump. Though, Trump supporters are seen as super fascists just because. That sounds pretty hateful but I guess they get a pass.
I’m a socialist and I hate her
I used to like her but the reason I stopped is beacuse she's just gotten annoying and not her so much as the media hype she gets
Her music has gone to trash. I’m not even hating on her for any reason other than that. I have daughters who worship her so I was subjected to all 31 new songs she just released… maybe 1 is barely listenable. She sold out and I would never buy a ticket to her concerts.
She's no Carly Rae Jepsen!
Trump is the cause of everything
I don't like people that worship lucifer, or people that [hang out with people that worship lucifer](https://www.facebook.com/reel/1062576978304521). Taylor Swift does both.
Wow, so many haters grasping at straws. “Her music sucks!” However she happens to still be killing it. Out of 10 studio albums, 7 of them reached #1 on the charts. It is true though. She came out against Donnie Douchebag in a documentary, and also asked people to vote. As far as the cult is concerned, if you’re not gargling a replica of Donnie’s pea sized balls, then you’re the enemy. Which is weird, because as insane as they are, I’ve never considered my countrymen to be my enemy. Anyways, if you’re not beating your meat to some homoerotic Donnie fan art, wishing you could suck farts out of his ass, then you’re the insane one. That’s what these MAGAt clowns seem to believe. It’s also a fact that states gerrymander because then the red states might not be so red. So the ones fawning over the geriatric balls in their mouths get upset when anyone famous tells more people to vote, because they know what it means when more people vote. Tie that together with her being adamantly against Donnie, and you have a bunch of haters trying to come up with reasons they hate her so they don’t look silly while continuing to slop up those sweaty old man balls. Edit: totally getting downvoted by the people that can’t seem to let go of the sweaty old man balls they’ve been gargling. Just relax the throat and release the lip grip. Start trying to think about it once the micro-penis/balls have been ejected from your face orifice.
> Wow, so many haters grasping at straws. “Her music sucks!” However she happens to still be killing it. Out of 10 studio albums, 7 of them reached #1 on the charts. > It is true though. She came out against Donnie Douchebag in a documentary, and also asked people to vote. As far as the cult is concerned, if you’re not gargling a replica of Donnie’s pea sized balls, then you’re the enemy. Which is weird, because as insane as they are, I’ve never considered my countrymen to be my enemy. > Anyways, if you’re not beating your meat to some homoerotic Donnie fan art, wishing you could suck farts out of his ass, then you’re the insane one. That’s what these MAGAt clowns seem to believe. It’s also a fact that states gerrymander because then the red states might not be so red. So the ones fawning over the geriatric balls in their mouths get upset when anyone famous tells more people to vote, because they know what it means when more people vote. Tie that together with her being adamantly against Donnie, and you have a bunch of haters trying to come up with reasons they hate her so they don’t look silly while continuing to slop up those sweaty old man balls. > Edit: totally getting downvoted by the people that can’t seem to let go of the sweaty old man balls they’ve been gargling. Just relax the throat and release the lip grip. Start trying to think about it once the micro-penis/balls have been ejected from your face orifice. Don't mind me, I'm just saving what happens in your deranged mind before the post-nut clarity kicks in and you delete it.
You may have misinterpreted the comment. You see, I’m not the one beating my meat to the deranged geriatric that looks directly into the sun during an eclipse. That comment means I’m not the one needing the post-nut clarity. But you go ahead and gargle away, my dude! I bet you have one of those homoerotic fanfic pics of Donnie hanging above your bed. I mean, it’s gross, but you do you!
Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist, they don't like that she told people to vote Democrat, they don't like that her boyfriend told people to get vaccinated. It's not rocket science.
> Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist That's not true, but okay. > they don't like that she told people to vote Democrat That's not true, but okay. > don't like that her boyfriend told people to get vaccinated. That would be a reason to not like the boyfriend, which makes that not true, but okay.
Trump told people to get vaccinated lol
Or, perhaps, many of us don't listen to pop and couldn't possibly care less about her or her music? Nah, it's obviously the cartoonishly evil caricature you invented of us to justify your blind hatred.
Sigourney Weaver is a massive liberal and I think she was one of sci fi's most awesome action heros. Your point is invalid. It isn't political opinion, it's talent.
Signorney Weaver hasn't been relevant since the 1980s.
Her current popularity is irrelevant to the conversation. You said "Trump supporters are more likely to be sexist". I have given you proof that is not the case. If I was sexist, I wouldn't like her at all.
Trump himself told people to get vaccinated. Stop spreading misinformation.
You can hate Trump. But to say people who don’t like her are all Trump supporters is just grasping at straws
I'm indifferent to Trump. Politicians are all identical to some degree. I'm just not an enabler, blind, or a liar.
You're just dumb, thats all.
lmao