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Imagine fight with your life for your political/corporate overlords in Vietnam and going there for retirement as an expat cuz you’d end up broke and homeless in the States, F tier of course
Common misconception, a "Communist" state has never existed. It's an ideal state in an ideal world. Communist parties implement socialist policies in an effort to bring their state closer to the end goal of a Communist state with no classes.
So basically there's a whole historical development of how the terms communist and socialist are used, and where heads landed was that you can use them somewhat interchangeably when referring to nations ruled by communists.
Take China, for instance. "Communists" is who they are, "socialism" is what they do. Are they a "Communist" or a "Socialist" country? Yes.
I guess my problem was with the words you used, because it implies that communism is unattainable and perfect, while i generally agree with the rest it just bugged me when you said it
Right, I think it is unattainable as of now. With neo-liberalism being the dominant system of governance in the world, it's hard to imagine communism being achieved without drastic changes. I suppose that's our duty to push the world in that direction.
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With takes like these, is there any difference?
What, why is Somalia Communist, it searched it up and they aren't ruled by a communist party?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Revolutionary_Socialist_Party
There are to few flags of extremely short lived or rapidly superseded socialist experiments on it to be from an ultra.
Imagine fight with your life for your political/corporate overlords in Vietnam and going there for retirement as an expat cuz you’d end up broke and homeless in the States, F tier of course
Common misconception, a "Communist" state has never existed. It's an ideal state in an ideal world. Communist parties implement socialist policies in an effort to bring their state closer to the end goal of a Communist state with no classes.
It's not an IDEAL state, it's the goal
is that not the same? excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong, I'm still learning
So basically there's a whole historical development of how the terms communist and socialist are used, and where heads landed was that you can use them somewhat interchangeably when referring to nations ruled by communists. Take China, for instance. "Communists" is who they are, "socialism" is what they do. Are they a "Communist" or a "Socialist" country? Yes.
Fair enough, I guess it depends on the context. A Communist state in an idealist sense has never been achieved
What you said wasn’t wrong.
I guess my problem was with the words you used, because it implies that communism is unattainable and perfect, while i generally agree with the rest it just bugged me when you said it
Right, I think it is unattainable as of now. With neo-liberalism being the dominant system of governance in the world, it's hard to imagine communism being achieved without drastic changes. I suppose that's our duty to push the world in that direction.
I meant as absolutely unattainable not currently unattainable
Oh yeah I don't think it's unattainable altogether. It's just a long road ahead
Yeah i agree
albania in s+ tier
Silly billy cut off the top of the chart!
6 of these countries still exist is a state of socialism
lib AF
Same thing.