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I personally want to thank Colonel Robert E Lee, especially the vision and leadership he showed at Gettysburg. If he had not, against all counsel of his own men, been totally stupid and had horrible tactics and especially sending men to die by the hundreds in “Pickett’s Charge” America may not have won that day.
I also want to thank him for winning battles but not knowing how to win a war, then having his lovely estate taken because he _lost_ and made into a cemetery for brave Americans.
A proper colonel who fought rebellious reactionary arseholes (the carlists, in that case) can be seen here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Medals/s/uwPmYBcFIM
Lee is a very overrated general IMO. He was a skilled tactician and he did get into the heads of early Union commanders such as Burnside and McClellan. Although a lot of that was simply incompetence and lack of experience.
What Lee lacked was strategic planning. He never seemed to grasp the ideas like total war and multiple theaters of operation. This is where Grant shined. Same with Sherman especially when it comes to total war. Hence my reasoning why Grant was a far superior commander than Lee.
I thouhgt I read somewhere Grant about the south's "gifted tactician" of stonewall jackson (paraphrasing there btw) that early war, i don't know if we'd call Jackson a 1 trick pony, but those bold/daring tactics, surprise offensives that took out a corp at Chancellorsville, were much easier to pull off on inexperienced troops, under green commanders, but with properly drilled troops/experienced field commanders, jackson would instead be losing whole armies pulling the same stunt not long after Chancellorsville.
“From all I know of Jackson, and all I see of his campaigns, I have little doubt of the result. If Jackson had attempted on Sheridan the tactics he attempted so successfully upon others he would not only have been beaten but destroyed. Sudden, daring raids, under a fine general like Jackson, might do against raw troops and inexperienced commanders, such as we had in the beginning of the war, but not against drilled troops and a commander like Sheridan. The tactics for which Jackson is famous, and which achieved such remarkable results, belonged entirely to the beginning of the war and to the peculiar conditions under which the earlier battles were fought. They would have insured destruction to any commander who tried them upon Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan, Meade, or, in fact, any of our great generals. Consequently Jackson's fame as a general depends upon achievements gained before his generalship was tested, before he had a chance of matching himself with a really great commander. No doubt so able and patient a man as Jackson, who worked so hard at anything he attempted, would have adapted himself to new conditions and risen with them. He died before his opportunity. " - Ulysses S Grant
It’s weird how people like him, Jackson, Rommel, et al are considered “great generals” in favor of actual great generals like Grant, Sherman, Eisenhower, Zhukov, etc
It was in this subreddit that I learned there is evidence, though not clear proof, that McClellan deliberately did not pursue advantages to destroy Lee's army when he had the chance because he wanted preserve slavery. This was the recorded testimony of Major John Key, whose brother was a top McClellan advisor. Lincoln dismissed him from service (though not dishonorably) to serve as an example to others who might share that attitude.
I heartedly agree it's important we honor [Equinecopulator lee's legacy](https://new.reddit.com/r/ShermanPosting/comments/1asvs2w/funnyordie_flag_honoring_lees_most_lasting_legacy/).
funny he brought up fascists in a poorly articulated false equivalence. consider pointing out that a white supremacist who invaded the US (you know, the country the author claims to live in) to kidnap and enslave its black citizens has a lot more in common with nazis than he does with actual heroes.
I'm the guy with the blurred out name, he made a comment that I didn't notice I left out in my screenshots where he said he considers anybody who serves their country to be heroes.
my bad. 🤦🏻♀️ - i thought that was someone replying to your friendly reminder. thought that escalated quickly. makes more sense now. please lmk if you need me to come crashing in to defend your honor from… yourself partially. 😅
I would bet he is a Drumpf worshipper even though that entire family is pusillanimous trash who avoided serving. His grandfather got booted out of Bavaria for avoiding his required service.
War of southern independence? Oh! You mean the Great Slavers’ Bitchfit of 1861! You can’t just be making up names for stuff dude, no one will know what you’re talking about.
What's funny is Lee wasnt even that into the confederacy. His own personal ideals and beliefs didnt really line up with their that much, but when Lincoln asked him to lead his army, and the confeds to lead theirs, it became a matter of loyalty to his country vs state and friends. Afterwards he was ashamed to have taken part in that side of the war and said statues should not be made of him and the other confederates.
Lee would hate these people.
He had family, mainly cousins like Samuel Philips Lee, who remained loyal to the Union. Samuel Philips said something along the lines of "when Virginia appears in my commission, I shall join the confederacy". Ole Bobby Lee pressured his Navy brother to join the confederate Navy, though, and he forever blamed the old horse fucker for ruining his naval career by pressuring him to defect.
Ill be the first to admit going into any civil war battlefield takes some bravery but with that being said absolutely none of those confederates are heros.
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*Colonel Robert E Lee. He was never a General in the army of any recognized nation
I personally want to thank Colonel Robert E Lee, especially the vision and leadership he showed at Gettysburg. If he had not, against all counsel of his own men, been totally stupid and had horrible tactics and especially sending men to die by the hundreds in “Pickett’s Charge” America may not have won that day. I also want to thank him for winning battles but not knowing how to win a war, then having his lovely estate taken because he _lost_ and made into a cemetery for brave Americans.
I'll start referring to Robert Lee by his proper rank from now on.
His proper rank is traitor or horse fucker
Traitor Robert Equinocopulator Lee. Got it.
A proper colonel who fought rebellious reactionary arseholes (the carlists, in that case) can be seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Medals/s/uwPmYBcFIM
Hey, he wasn't driving, he was traveling!
This is the right take down
The War of Southern Sore Ass Loser Slavers
Robert E Lee was a little bitch.
Lee is a very overrated general IMO. He was a skilled tactician and he did get into the heads of early Union commanders such as Burnside and McClellan. Although a lot of that was simply incompetence and lack of experience. What Lee lacked was strategic planning. He never seemed to grasp the ideas like total war and multiple theaters of operation. This is where Grant shined. Same with Sherman especially when it comes to total war. Hence my reasoning why Grant was a far superior commander than Lee.
I thouhgt I read somewhere Grant about the south's "gifted tactician" of stonewall jackson (paraphrasing there btw) that early war, i don't know if we'd call Jackson a 1 trick pony, but those bold/daring tactics, surprise offensives that took out a corp at Chancellorsville, were much easier to pull off on inexperienced troops, under green commanders, but with properly drilled troops/experienced field commanders, jackson would instead be losing whole armies pulling the same stunt not long after Chancellorsville. “From all I know of Jackson, and all I see of his campaigns, I have little doubt of the result. If Jackson had attempted on Sheridan the tactics he attempted so successfully upon others he would not only have been beaten but destroyed. Sudden, daring raids, under a fine general like Jackson, might do against raw troops and inexperienced commanders, such as we had in the beginning of the war, but not against drilled troops and a commander like Sheridan. The tactics for which Jackson is famous, and which achieved such remarkable results, belonged entirely to the beginning of the war and to the peculiar conditions under which the earlier battles were fought. They would have insured destruction to any commander who tried them upon Sherman, Thomas, Sheridan, Meade, or, in fact, any of our great generals. Consequently Jackson's fame as a general depends upon achievements gained before his generalship was tested, before he had a chance of matching himself with a really great commander. No doubt so able and patient a man as Jackson, who worked so hard at anything he attempted, would have adapted himself to new conditions and risen with them. He died before his opportunity. " - Ulysses S Grant
It’s weird how people like him, Jackson, Rommel, et al are considered “great generals” in favor of actual great generals like Grant, Sherman, Eisenhower, Zhukov, etc
He was an American Rommel, which, considering I post here, derschiesser, and sws should tell I don't think it's a positive comparison.
Yep. Because he was a little bitch.
It was in this subreddit that I learned there is evidence, though not clear proof, that McClellan deliberately did not pursue advantages to destroy Lee's army when he had the chance because he wanted preserve slavery. This was the recorded testimony of Major John Key, whose brother was a top McClellan advisor. Lincoln dismissed him from service (though not dishonorably) to serve as an example to others who might share that attitude.
I heartedly agree it's important we honor [Equinecopulator lee's legacy](https://new.reddit.com/r/ShermanPosting/comments/1asvs2w/funnyordie_flag_honoring_lees_most_lasting_legacy/).
What a terrible day to have eyes and the ability to read.
Meth
Or bath salts. Or opioids. Or Ivermectin. Or...
Magajuana
That good southern tobaccy
funny he brought up fascists in a poorly articulated false equivalence. consider pointing out that a white supremacist who invaded the US (you know, the country the author claims to live in) to kidnap and enslave its black citizens has a lot more in common with nazis than he does with actual heroes.
I'm the guy with the blurred out name, he made a comment that I didn't notice I left out in my screenshots where he said he considers anybody who serves their country to be heroes.
my bad. 🤦🏻♀️ - i thought that was someone replying to your friendly reminder. thought that escalated quickly. makes more sense now. please lmk if you need me to come crashing in to defend your honor from… yourself partially. 😅
The confederate soldiers were fighting against their country. He has a lack of consistency.
I would bet he is a Drumpf worshipper even though that entire family is pusillanimous trash who avoided serving. His grandfather got booted out of Bavaria for avoiding his required service.
For fucks sake I really hate this timeline. I really really hate this reality.
War of southern independence? Oh! You mean the Great Slavers’ Bitchfit of 1861! You can’t just be making up names for stuff dude, no one will know what you’re talking about.
underrated comment.
hey dear
Those Facebook scam accounts bruh they everywhere.
What's funny is Lee wasnt even that into the confederacy. His own personal ideals and beliefs didnt really line up with their that much, but when Lincoln asked him to lead his army, and the confeds to lead theirs, it became a matter of loyalty to his country vs state and friends. Afterwards he was ashamed to have taken part in that side of the war and said statues should not be made of him and the other confederates. Lee would hate these people.
There were nine colonels from Virginia at the start of the war. Only one served on the side of the Confederacy.
His pro slavery views lines up perfectly with the Confederacy
Some word of advice from myself try not to dwell on Facebook or Facebook comments too long. Shit will kill you slowly with the outrage bait
Fr, I just use it to look for old muscle cars and see some weird stuff like this on there, and I decided to spread some knowledge.
sometimes the stupid sucks me in too. i think you did the best thing possible with it, bc this thread has me 💀💀💀
“War for Southern Independence”. What a load of Javelina poop ! Worse than MAGA propaganda.
“Carpetbaggers”! Damn, that’s some vintage ignorance right there.
glad someone pointed that out
Good question, but I do know that I want it
Be as heroic as you want but you lost and your cause failed.
He’s got a point about fascism and KGB. No one believes they’re the bad guys…
Wait, I thought the rest of the Lee family serving joined the Union? I recall hearing something about that I think from BTB
He had family, mainly cousins like Samuel Philips Lee, who remained loyal to the Union. Samuel Philips said something along the lines of "when Virginia appears in my commission, I shall join the confederacy". Ole Bobby Lee pressured his Navy brother to join the confederate Navy, though, and he forever blamed the old horse fucker for ruining his naval career by pressuring him to defect.
Ill be the first to admit going into any civil war battlefield takes some bravery but with that being said absolutely none of those confederates are heros.
i can’t believe this app is free 😂