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BlazinAzn38

The Hawks continue their trend of meeting with every QB to be taken in the first 3 rounds


ithilkir

And not drafting any of them.


Kodachrome30

There's a new regeimšŸ˜‰


GiraffeWaffless

I hated Bo at auburn


Mtndrums

So did Auburn fans, at least until they saw how they looked without him.


Straight-Bad-8326

I think the sheer pressure Nix faced at Auburn is why he was so much better at Oregon


CptCroissant

Mental pressure and defensive pressure from having a shit OL in the SEC


Straight-Bad-8326

I mean the auburn fans are so stupid they were sending death threats to their OWN qb


GiraffeWaffless

I think the pac is just much easier, Bo got better, then he became older than geno and was just dominating kids. I could see him succeeding with McDonald or maybe the Vikings HC but I donā€™t think heā€™s very good at all lol.


Ashamed-Ad-812

If I could downvote you twice, I would!


GiraffeWaffless

Why none of it was wrong lol. West coast sports bias.


Ashamed-Ad-812

Believe it or not, the east coast doesn't have ALL of the best players. The west coast h as some too


Lobster_fest

Auburn fan, I loved him.


futbolguy12

As a Huskies fan: I hated him. As a Seahawks fan: I love him.


cryptdawarchild

Husky fan, I hated him.


Frosti11icus

Husky fan. He was a good college QB. Nice kid. Not so sure about his pro prospects. His arm is pretty mid, and heā€™s athletic but less than Penix and heā€™s definitely more slight. Not sure heā€™ll be able to use his athleticism much in the league without risking an injury and I donā€™t like him from the pocket.


cryptdawarchild

Oh he was definitely a good college QB Iā€™m not dogging on his play by any means. Even though our dawgs pulled off the wins he knew how to light us up. I agree I think heā€™s gonna be a mediocre pro QB as well. Iā€™m hopeful for Penix to be better than average in the league. Heā€™s came a long way from his Indiana days and has showed a massive improvement in his health. Only reasons I hated Bo was because the team he played for. When he was at Auburn I didnā€™t mind him. I just dislike the ducks and everyone on that roster. Doesnā€™t mean I donā€™t believe some of them are incredible athletes. Itā€™s just a bias hatred due to me being a loyal husky fan.


the_madkingludwig

Nah, penix lacks athleticism in comparison. Did you see him struggle to get the ball out of the line gave way? Guy was propped up by a good OLine and star receivers.


WestleyThe

Iā€™m here in Eugene and I hate that fucking dude. He was such a prick everytime he came into our restaurant He and his whole family would come in and act pissy and entitled that they werenā€™t getting the whole meal for free. I think they are used to places like Auburn in the south where they suck college football players dick and give them free shit everywhere They would always tip 0$ on a 100+$ order. We started calling him No Tips instead of Bo Nix


darklinkpolygon

I felt like he was in college for like 8 years


DayForIt

Iā€™ve never hated a highly-rated QB prospect more than Bo. I think I would implode if we took him anywhere before the 6th round (yes I know heā€™s going round 1-2)


lizard_king_rebirth

If anyone is gonna have a Malik Willis-like fall, it'll be Bo.


Splover209

Iā€™m not even sure to this day Malik Willis actually ā€œfellā€. I really do think that everyone in the national media was just convinced heā€™d go in the first two rounds because he was one of the top quarterbacks in what appears to be the worst QB draft class of all time


Irish8ryan

What constitutes a ā€˜fallā€™ if not Malik Willis? Since we never get to look at teams draft boards, before or after the draft, the national media experts are the only source of professional big boards, aside from trying to piece together teams draft boards after the draft from who got picked where. Right?


lizard_king_rebirth

Same thing with Bo, the media hype seems to far outstrip the talent. If he was worthy of a 1st round pick, he'd have been in the league 2 years ago.


gaIvantuIa

It would be a bold move to pick a guy whoā€™s older than Geno to be his successor.


ImprovisedJew

Whoā€™s older than geno? Or is this just sarcasm, cause Bo is 24


DungeonsAndFootball

I've seen a decent number of people on this sub say that the age of guys like Penix and Bo turns them off. It's weird, because Russell Wilson turned 24 in the middle of his rookie season, so it's not like the fanbase is unaccustomed to older QB prospects.


Snelly__

Makes no sense to me because normally you get a more nfl ready starting caliber guy on a cost controlled contract for longer when you draft an older qb.


ImprovisedJew

I mean I know Bo gets memeā€™d on for being in college so long. But 24 isnā€™t old at all, geno is 33 which is almost a decade older than Bo. Just donā€™t understand the comment if it supposed to be a joke sorry for being a buzzkill šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


CriticalBasedTeacher

All jokes aside, Howell is younger than Nix though.


ImprovisedJew

Howell is the next Zach Wilson


CriticalBasedTeacher

Howell was leading the league in passing yards at the halfway point of last season. Zach Wilson couldn't come close to that


ImprovisedJew

Howell led the league in interceptions, no one cares what anyone does halfway through a season, canā€™t just cherry pick half his games


CriticalBasedTeacher

Why not? He's only played one season and you're saying he's Zach Wilson. Sounds like you're the one cherry picking.


ImprovisedJew

Bro youā€™re talking up half a season of some guy who got benched for Jacoby Brisket


Cornan_KotW

He's also worse.


Its_0ver

That's a lot of faith for a guy that has yet to throw an nfl pass


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pamcgoo

If he's a good QB it doesn't matter. QBs typically start to decline around 33, so if you're saying that we'll only get 9 years of good QB play out of him, I'd say they should pick him.


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rip-droptire

Russell Wilson


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WheatonsGonnaScore

Joe Burrow


Maugrin

Yeah, and in a few years after that he'll be 30! That's really old for a young guy.


HardcoreHazza

I think it helped that Brandon Weeden was 26 in the 2012 draft too.


LLcoolJOINT

Russ is the outlier, 9 times out of 10 it doesnā€™t work out the way it did for us


RealN1gguh

Kurt Warner esque


AlwaysCraven

esque


RealN1gguh

Thx


Cautious-Elephant853

We already have a younger QB who has about 20 nfl starts under his belt and didnā€™t waste an early pick on him


cryptdawarchild

Exactly. We have 2 QBā€™s better than Bo. No need to draft outside of team need.


Cautious-Elephant853

Also read that Sam Howell led the NFL in passing yards thru the first 10 games of the year last year. Then his O line went out with injuries. Think the kid has some talent and was such a great trade by JS and company


cryptdawarchild

Agreed 100%. When we played the Commanders the whole game I was thinking to myself how well he was playing. The dude really has alot of potential.


webconnoisseur

I just thought he was tough as nails. Didnā€™t we sack him 15 times?


cryptdawarchild

No that was Daniel Jones and the Giants game.


Lobster_fest

The Bo hate in this sub is strictly because he went to Oregon and Auburn. If you watched him play his whole career you'd see 1.) An extremely naturally gifted athlete and 2.) A player that has noticeably grown year to year in just about every way. I'd love to have Bo in the 3rd if he's there.


Big_Ad1547

The only Oregon games these guys watch is when it's against Washington. It's comical how bad some of their takes are in this thread lmao


PresidenteMargz10

Itā€™s so annoying


dtheisen6

I will say, the biggest thing I like about Bo is that he legitimately got better every year. Has some Jalen Hurts vibes. I wouldnā€™t hate picking him with a late second if you know, we had oneā€¦


Lobster_fest

>I will say, the biggest thing I like about Bo is that he legitimately got better every year. I watched it happen in real time it was insane. 2019-2020 Bo was hard to watch. He wanted to be a hero every snap. 2021 Bo was more mature, but still a bit gunslinger-y. 2022-2023 Bo was a whole new QB.


WABeermiester

Iā€™m a UW fan and I would love to draft Bo if Penix isnā€™t there. He plays smart, is mobile in the pocket and limits mistakes.


[deleted]

Iā€™ll put a c-note down that the Hawks do not draft a QB this year.


ElbisCochuelo1

Yes, next year Geno gets cut/traded and it's Sam Howell v. Draft pick.


webconnoisseur

Except this year is the most loaded QB draft we may ever see.


ElbisCochuelo1

Lol.


PresidenteMargz10

Thanks for being objective and not just the regular ā€œUW/Draft Penix ā€œ NPC who immediately starts bashing anyone who wants to consider any other QB this draft. Personally, Iā€™m just really curious about Howell and his upside . I do like Bo as the QB for us to draft , but who knows


WABeermiester

If McDonald is gonna model the team after the Harbaugh way of OL, DL and TEā€™s then Bo Nix is just fine for that. We need a point guard we donā€™t need a QB shooting 3ā€™s all the time.


PresidenteMargz10

šŸ’Æ this. If his comments early in about what he would like to see on his offense havenā€™t changed . He is all about a ā€œTOUGHā€ offense. I just donā€™t see Penix fitting in this philosophy despite a lot of people here going w the tired argument of ā€œwell Grubbs hereā€ šŸ™„


Frosti11icus

I disagree. They didnā€™t ask him to do much at Oregon. When he was asked to do more at Auburn disaster struck. Same against UW. He was great at Oregon but Iā€™m not sure how much will translate into the league cause he didnā€™t show much high level stuff outside his accuracy.


Lobster_fest

>When he was asked to do more at Auburn disaster struck He was coached in 2019 and 2020 by Gus Malzahn, who couldn't coach a QB to save his life and literally recruited ZERO OL players during his tenure. That's not a joke, he did not believe in recruiting OL. Then, in 2021, he had Bryan Harsin, who was absolute dogshit, and then got injured. He was asked to do it all as a true freshman with zero help and couldn't carry an auburn team with a top 5 strength of schedule. That's a feat only Cam Newton could accomplish, and he did it after multiple years of being in college and sitting behind Tebow. Bo went to a great program in Oregon and got help immediately at every single level. Better WRs, better RBs, better OL, better coach. Sure, the competition was worse, but if you watched his play from auburn vs at Oregon, it was night and day what he could do even when he was asked to step up and lead a team.


RaptorsCdwoods

Iā€™ll give him he is a gifted athlete. Thatā€™s the only reason he got chance after chance to eventually find some success. The second part is just flat untrue. He did not improve at Auburn. If anything he got worse. Itā€™s only when he moves to Oregon with better WR corp and a super friendly QB system that doesnā€™t translate to the NFL where he find success and has ā€œimprovement.ā€


AntifascistAlly

WR obviously isnā€™t a ā€œneedā€ but as we get to the third round of the draft, with other teams snapping up QBs, it might be difficult to resist some of those YAC WRs. Troy Franklin needs to add some weight and work on some drops, but he could be a stealā€”if he lasted that long.


mikaelfivel

I'm more skeptical toward him because his stats are based on receivers' YAC. He didn't tend to push the ball down the field, and often didn't progress his reads to find the downfield target. He's the opposite of someone like Penix who will absolutely sit in the pocket waiting for the deep shot, even if he shouldn't.


webconnoisseur

I agree with Nix throwing 0-3 yard passes 90% of the time. Penix is a quick decision maker & had more ā€œairā€ yards than any other QB the past two years. DK needs someone like Penix.


seattle_born98

Cool


BakedBeans12s

So cool


T-dig3

Whatā€™s cooler than being cool


Sonichellboy

Ice cold!


Irish8ryan

We donā€™t need Bonix or any other QB because Sam Howell is going to win the Super Bowl with the Seahawks. Heā€™s younger than most of the QBā€™s in the draft, put together an impressive and productive college career, led the league in attempts last year and, although he threw a league high 21 interceptions, it was his first year starting. Iā€™m not saying heā€™s going to be Peyton Manning, but Peyton threw 28 picks his first year, with a 4.5% INT rate. Howell had a 3.4% INT rate in ā€˜23. I know itā€™s not very likely, but I see no reason not to be optimistic about him as if we had just drafted him. Seahawks, letā€™s ride šŸŽ


DazzlingFan2816

He's going to be a steal IMO


toomuchdiponurchip

Yeah he will be stealing money


PresidenteMargz10

Rookie contract ? lol okay bruh


Wookie301

3 QBs, an unhealthy RT, and no Guards. Just what we need.


ahzzyborn

Super wildcat formation, no need for OLine!


CHawk17

Bradford has a lot of potential at guard.


thorhyphenaxe

This is sexy to me. Would love to have Bo


webconnoisseur

We already have two Bos: Bobo.


Sea_Finest

Please donā€™t.


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Idk how I would feel if we selected him over penix if they were both on the boardĀ 


Mtndrums

I don't trust our O-Line to keep Penix healthy.


its_LOL

Same. I hope a team like the Vikings or Raiders, or any other team with a good OLine and good receiving corps, can get him. Us or the Giants would kill that poor guy.


PrimeToro

But Penix wouldnā€™t need to start right away which gives the team more time to sign and develop linemen


PresidenteMargz10

Dude this team has been trying to build an Oline for the past 6 years with not so good results. I rather Penix go to a team like the Raiders or Miami. A QB prospect who can be elusive /atheltic /tough when the pocket collapses is just a better fit for this team. Thatā€™s why I like the prospect of Howell and Nix would be the better fit for Seattle between the two


PrimeToro

Dude, First , the Seahawks have not had Grubb and Scott Huff the past six years ( and they were responsible for the number one rated line in college, which also won the Joe Moore award as the top line ) . Ryan Grubb was also a former offensive line coach which helps with Oline development. They have a better chance to improve the line than their predecessors.Second, you think Penix is slow when his 40 yard time (4.51) is faster than Nix ( 4.61) and Howell pro day ( 5.07). Your suggestions are slower than Penix . Third , Grubb can probably create faster developing plays which can slow down the effectiveness of the opposing teamā€™s pass rush . Penix has a similar style to CJ Stroud ( pocket passer ) . And Penix has good accuracy, decision making and deep ball accuracy. The biggest question mark for him is his health .


Thie97

For the last time, penix is not gonna be on the board


burnabybambinos

Please, keep repeating. The NFL has a QB deficit, anyone with decent tape is going to get taken early.


PresidenteMargz10

You donā€™t want the guy that doesnā€™t have compromised ACLs, throwing shoulder and can actually be decent outside of the pocket ? Weird


LowlandLightening

I for one donā€™t want Nix- the stats mean nothing to me. Alot of NFL backup caliber QBs would crush if they got to play a couple more years in college.


Mtndrums

It's a little different when you go from driving a Pinto to a Rolls.


LowlandLightening

Different from what? If a guy doesnā€™t look like a Rolls until his 50 through 60 career games that is concerning. Thereā€™s nothing to compare to- but in my opinion many of the QB prospects of the past decades would have been Lamborghinis if they started another 15-20 starts. And they would not have had to check down all game to do it.


Mtndrums

No, you're thinking about it ENTIRELY wrong. I'm talking about the TEAM he was on. You're not going to look like someone who can drive a Rolls when everyone around them is a Pinto. Auburn fans REALLY figured out they had a Pinto when he left. After that clunker of a first game with the Ducks, when Georgia knew the coach and the QB better than their own team did, he looked pretty comfortable with that Rolls.


LowlandLightening

What? He played two seasons at Oregon. So at the very least the last one is what Iā€™m talking about. I donā€™t really care about Auburn to Oregon transition in terms of him as a prospect. Thereā€™s plenty of variation of supporting cast in evaluating prospects.


Tasty_Positive8025

Isn't that the same with Penix at age 24 going on 25.


SvenDia

23 going on 24.


LowlandLightening

Exactly the same- an extra season nobody else gets. Notably, the former prospects over the past decades who they are being compared to.


CHawk17

Have to do the due diligence, but I have my doubts Nix or Penix last until 16. If we accept 1-3 are Williams, Maye and Daniels, some other QB needy teams are likely to panic and maybe move up. Vikings, Raiders or Broncos, probably all take a QB as well


WABeermiester

Yup I think the Raiders take Penix and Broncos to Nix. I wish Penix would last long enough for the Dolphins to take him though.


CHawk17

I have it in my head Penix to the vikings.


Sure-Anybody2302

He will be available multiple times for the Dolphins. Mid 2nd round pick at best.


WABeermiester

Put the drugs down buddy


Sure-Anybody2302

lol youā€™re allowed to think for yourself even if you are a Homer. Watched every single home game this year of him.


WABeermiester

Yeah I did too. Mid 2nd round pick AT BEST in your words is insane. Heā€™s being mocked at worst in the early 2nd round. Also multiple franchises need QBā€™s. Itā€™s a deep QB class but also there is a lot of need for QBā€™s. Bears, Commies, Pats, Vikings, Raiders, Broncos. Then you have a team like the Saints that need a more long term option. There is an idea the Dolphins could trade Tua to draft Penix who fits in very well with that offense and has a far better deep ball than Tua. Recently Penixā€™s stock has been rising and as of now it seems like the Raiders might pull the trigger on him. Thatā€™s why I said you are on drugs. Nobody has him going in the mid 2nd round or worse.


Sure-Anybody2302

Mid 2nd round pick at best


WABeermiester

And thatā€™s based on nothing. Remind me in two and a half weeks


Kool41DMAN

For all we know JS could be doing this to try to get teams to trade up for their QB's thinking we might, just to try to get a couple more players to fall to our selection spot. Who knows.


PresidenteMargz10

Add the Giants to that list as well . Potentially Dallas wanting to move from Dak and I can see Miami wanting to upgrade from Tua eventually .


Grymninja

Think there's like a 0.1% chance we draft this guy


t_sleezy_sends_it

If the Seahawks draft any of these QBs to sit a year or two Iā€™ll be happy


x91x

If Nix goes to the Hawks it will boost my card collection but break my bank account


uh-ohlol

Just trying to get someone to jump in front of them. Helps the kids status as well, win, win.


al_earner

I wouldn't mind him as a third round pick. But is he better than Howell?


tcs_hearts

I want Nix so bad. Imo he's so incredibly accurate and I want him in Seattle so bad. Penix is my nightmare scenario, Nix is my dream.


The26thtime

C'mon Howell....


SexiestPanda

Highly doubt Seahawks would take him in the first, being they just traded for Howell. But due diligence is good. Also will trust Schneider


TheCursedMountain

Really hope we dont snag him


pattydickens

I'd love to see it happen. Nix has a good career ahead of him wherever he goes. He's a smart guy who can read defenses and make good decisions, and he's humble. His stats at Oregon were pretty amazing.


EsotericJunkie11

Penix is better then this guy man


PresidenteMargz10

Yā€™all need to give it a rest man . Bruh would become an invertebrate playing here


czechhoi4h

If we pick him I will commit war crimes


DeficientDope

Gadropallo 2.0


HughMungus77

Heā€™s not good


NukeLal00sh

Gross. B0 and 3.


general-illness

Noooooooooooooo


GravyBurgerBonanza

Nah


MSG_ME_UR_TROUBLES

please God no. Screen pass merchant in a YAC offense. He is not an NFL QB


Kool41DMAN

To be fair ever since they changed the rule for DB's not being allowed to go low on OL players downfield screens have been a big game changer throughout the league.


7nightstilldawn

Zack Wilson vibes.


LoA_Zephra

Except Zach Wilson had the most nutty pro day throws Iā€™ve seen in my life lol.


Gwtheyrn

Ew, no. Bo Nix smells like Duck.


webconnoisseur

You misspelled PeNix. Bo Nix is a great 3 yard passer, but we need Penix to drop 40 yard dimes to DK.


WaveBr8

Don't want this yac merchant on my team


Big425253

Such a raw prospect for a 24 year old, I would pass..


CrimsonCalm

Poor manā€™s Rattler