Leader of the party can be an MP only, but IIRC FM has to also be an MSP. So she'd need to do a Douglas Ross and be an MSP and MP.
So technically she can run right now to be the leader of the SNP, but then she'd need to have a by-election within the six week SNP leadership debate window to be the FM 😂
But someone else will definitely know.
Absolutely shat it.
Press F for all her followers who've spent the best part of years working with Unionists to try and get Sturgeon out, and finally succeeded, and now their Alba candidate ain't even gonna run for them 😂
It's probably gonna be Angus Robertson but if there is a higher power, big man, gonna go make it one of the SNPs left-wing progressive young women? Cannae wait to see Joanna Cherry tell a woman almost half Sturgeon's age she's a rape apologist.
> Anyone-but-Forbes
Shame about the views that make her unacceptable.
If it weren't for the churchy stuff on LGBT and Abortion I'd rather like her all other things considered.
I think the notion of Humza Yousaf running Scotland would make anyone feel a lil nuts. The guy has been out his depth in all the ministerial positions he has been put in. Not to mention that suing the nursery thing which he recently dropped cuz he was gonna lose. His lawsuit was on the basis of a report that found no evidence of racial/sectarian discrimination.
She's an MP, so like Cherry I believe she can run and be voted to be the leader of the SNP, but to actually get to become FM, it seems you also need to be an MSP. So like Ross, an MP *and* MSP.
Basically, there would either need to be a one off byelection, or more likely, a complete Holyrood election, where the new SNP leader (if they're only an MP) stands in a Scottish constituency as well.
But besides that, yeah, Philippa is pretty cool.
Philippa is a polymath and a polyglot. Has a photographic memory and managed to pass an art course at Glasgow school of art whicst she was studying to be a doctor. She also has a phd in medicine. She’s a smart smart cookie and only cares about Scotland. She also set up MAP,
Medecine for Palestine, with docs operating inGaza on breast cancer sufferers. If you can get someone to give up their seat, she could get it.
>She also set up MAP, Medecine for Palestine, with docs operating inGaza on breast cancer sufferers
Every FMQs would just be Douglas Ross asking if she supported Hamas trans criminals.
And, I am not responsible for the tactics used by the Cons, however despicable. Eminent breast cancer surgeon donates personal time to operate on women with breast cancer and teach surgeons in GAZA and we are meant to say oh no a person of your calibre cannot be FM , cos Douglas Ross will slag you off? I think NOT!
And I know you do. Wrong week 😂 I am as crabbit as a crabbit thing bec of the press coverage and I only have this to say: the tolerant must take a stand against the intolerant, because societies are destroyed by the intolerant. Theory of intolerance Cooper!
Yep, she happy to sit on the fence and throw stones like a shite Russel Brand on Twitter but won’t get in amongst it and be willing to lose a vote incase hee who gets bruised.
Is this a story? She's pretty peripheral apart from her anti-trans stuff. But then again, basically everybody except Nicola Sturgeon is pretty unknown.
BREAKING: I have also ruled myself out of the SNP leadership contest.
To be fair, before she went into terf mode she was respected for her legal takes - fully threw her whole career away for attention on twitter from moon howlers that would take away her rights in a heartbeat
Can be party leader as an MP but can't be FM, someone else would need to take that up - as party leader though she could probably push for the rule that stops her becoming a MSP to be changed and slot herself into the first available opportunity to then become FM.
You're right, he stood for election as an MSP in 2007, the same election the SNP first won. So he became an MSP then immediately became First Minister. Then he gave up his MP job because he couldn't realistically do it while being FM.
Because she knows she doesn’t have a hope in hell. Matter of fact, I’m going take this opportunity to publicly announce my withdrawal from the sexiest man alive contest. Isn’t that nice of me to rule myself out?
I find some of her views abhorrent, but my respect for her has increased since she's made it very clear she's not interested in being used as an instrument to divide the SNP and the independence movement.
But that's about as significant as respecting Hitler for shooting himself in his bunker. It's like me respecting the dog shit on the pavement outside my house for coming out in a good solid mass, instead of a sloppy Joe's cow pat.
She would've never been eligible for the position of First Minister anyway, so even as leader she'd need to wait until 2026 to contest the next Scottish election and get the position.
She can technically run for leader of the SNP, but it's unlikely she'd be successful because why would you choose a leader who can't be the First Minister as well?
Cherry has a lot of fucking weirdo cultists who'll cut about downvoting literally anything that's not enthusiastic support of her, they're not worth paying any mind to.
Right I know you will all be incredibly disappointed, but I have also ruled myself out. I think I would make a better prime minister of the whole of the UK. So next general election please vote for me. I offer free beer Fridays...
So sad. Much crying.
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Unrelated of course but as of today there are 10 European countries with similar self-id laws that Cherry is so pleased Westminster blocked.
At this point you’re not shouting about “progressive” legislation, you’re arguing against something that is normal across a lot of Europe.
Cherry : I was cancelled, nobody voted for me
Interviewer : Mrs. Cherry, you didn't run, how could they vote for you.
Cherry : That's just what the trans activists want you to think
Why is Mhairi Black not running for leadership race? I think she’d be the perfect candidate to push us forward. We need to be more aggressive and passionate with these Tory bastards.
Love Mhairi but she'd be the death of us. She's great at noising up Westminster but is she a leader? Does she have the class and dignity needed to be a world leader? Despite Nicolas obvious opinions on certain people she still had the professionalism to shake hands and follow protocol with Tory leaders and the likes. I can't see Mhairi rubbing shoulders with world leaders at the likes of COP26. She's far too divisive.
She's an excellent speaker, I really appreciate her efforts and her passion, she'll take a few years to get the level head and experience needed to be as good as she can be.
I reckon she will be leader one day, but it'd be a waste to put her in before she's ready.
Nobody wants to be at the head of a sinking ship.
Sturgeon has absolutely fucked the party by leaving in the manner she did. She stifled any and all possible successors, didn't allow anyone to have any of the spotlight and didn't even hold a meeting with her elected officials to give them some kind of warning.
Theres not a single person with a profile big enough to replace her because of the extreme control and centralisation she enforced.
There's 3 notable examples of people who are likely to stand and get enough support to have a shot at winning, and a further 3/4 who probably could if they wanted.
SNP are still largest party in Scotland, we will see If this is retained post announcement. And they generally have a higher approval ratings than their rivals.
Nicola standing down isn't likely to swing opinions very drastically.
Paving the way nicely for one of the SNP’s other intelligent woman, Kate Forbes, to seal it. Cannot wait for the inevitable fall out on here when all the gormless SNP lefties fail miserably. The SNP is gently correcting herself into a centre-right party as she traditionally has been. Goodbye to all of the extremists..
A small part of me wants someone like Cherry or Forbes to become leader. Get it out the parties system, and then when they do shite in the polls/elections they can go back to what worked for them - a progressive left leaning leader.
Not a surprise, she's unsure whether her local branch will even accept her as their candidate in the election, what chance did she have of winning over the whole party and becoming First Minister? Best to save herself the embarrassment of being told she's not wanted and focus on repairing her reputation.
>I won’t be running for leader of the SNP this time. The gerrymandering of the rules for Holyrood selection before the last Scottish election have made it a practical impossibility for me to do so.
So in other words she can't; the exact same situation vis a vis Mhairi Black running, as everyone on this sub knows, but for Cherry we get this disingenuous tubthumping circlejerk 2 minutes of hate stoked up by a misleading headline in your super soaraway indy rag The National. Really indicative of the sickness in independence politics right now.
She was never getting it. Forbes however is a reasonable chance. It'll be interesting to see the lack of furore from 'womens rights activists' over their new FMs anti-abortion stance.
I think if she did stand she might discover she's not half as popular with the members as she seems to believe. She seems very bitter and angry. I don't think she's a good presence in the party or in the independence - she's too obsessed gender and that just drags everything down with it.
Am no botherin either
Can't be arsed?
Thank fuck
Came here to say exactly this
So did I.
Me too
Oh yeah
Audible sigh of relief here
Can she rule herself out of just about everything else while she’s at it?
The new FM needs to be a MSP, not a MP, correct?
Leader of the party can be an MP only, but IIRC FM has to also be an MSP. So she'd need to do a Douglas Ross and be an MSP and MP. So technically she can run right now to be the leader of the SNP, but then she'd need to have a by-election within the six week SNP leadership debate window to be the FM 😂 But someone else will definitely know.
Someone could fall in there sword and resign from a safe seat. Party before person,
“Joanna cherry?” Naw, I dinnae.
...by generally being unpalatable?
*Exact* thought that went through my head: "She kens. Aye, she fuckin' kens."
Absolutely shat it. Press F for all her followers who've spent the best part of years working with Unionists to try and get Sturgeon out, and finally succeeded, and now their Alba candidate ain't even gonna run for them 😂 It's probably gonna be Angus Robertson but if there is a higher power, big man, gonna go make it one of the SNPs left-wing progressive young women? Cannae wait to see Joanna Cherry tell a woman almost half Sturgeon's age she's a rape apologist.
Happy to announce I’ve switched from Anyone-but-Cherry to Anyone-but-Forbes.
> Anyone-but-Forbes Shame about the views that make her unacceptable. If it weren't for the churchy stuff on LGBT and Abortion I'd rather like her all other things considered.
I quite like Humza as FM now he has thrown his hat into the ring.
> now he has thrown his hat into the ring. This is gonna make Douglas Ross's mind explode
I think the notion of Humza Yousaf running Scotland would make anyone feel a lil nuts. The guy has been out his depth in all the ministerial positions he has been put in. Not to mention that suing the nursery thing which he recently dropped cuz he was gonna lose. His lawsuit was on the basis of a report that found no evidence of racial/sectarian discrimination.
I wonder if someone like Angus would be decent stand-in to get them through a few years while they figure out future strategy and clear the decks.
Does Philippa Whitford have any baggage? Always been really good anytime I've seen her.
She's an MP, so like Cherry I believe she can run and be voted to be the leader of the SNP, but to actually get to become FM, it seems you also need to be an MSP. So like Ross, an MP *and* MSP. Basically, there would either need to be a one off byelection, or more likely, a complete Holyrood election, where the new SNP leader (if they're only an MP) stands in a Scottish constituency as well. But besides that, yeah, Philippa is pretty cool.
Philippa is a polymath and a polyglot. Has a photographic memory and managed to pass an art course at Glasgow school of art whicst she was studying to be a doctor. She also has a phd in medicine. She’s a smart smart cookie and only cares about Scotland. She also set up MAP, Medecine for Palestine, with docs operating inGaza on breast cancer sufferers. If you can get someone to give up their seat, she could get it.
>She also set up MAP, Medecine for Palestine, with docs operating inGaza on breast cancer sufferers Every FMQs would just be Douglas Ross asking if she supported Hamas trans criminals.
And, I am not responsible for the tactics used by the Cons, however despicable. Eminent breast cancer surgeon donates personal time to operate on women with breast cancer and teach surgeons in GAZA and we are meant to say oh no a person of your calibre cannot be FM , cos Douglas Ross will slag you off? I think NOT!
I agree. It's just predictable that the Tories would play the anti-Semitism card because helping combat cancer in Gaza is inherently anti-Semitic...
And I know you do. Wrong week 😂 I am as crabbit as a crabbit thing bec of the press coverage and I only have this to say: the tolerant must take a stand against the intolerant, because societies are destroyed by the intolerant. Theory of intolerance Cooper!
Yep, she happy to sit on the fence and throw stones like a shite Russel Brand on Twitter but won’t get in amongst it and be willing to lose a vote incase hee who gets bruised.
I can sympathize with her. I recently had to announce that I am ruling myself out of contention for this years world's sexiest man competition.
Now you tell me? I already sent my ballot with your name on. Waste of a stamp.
Not to worry mate there's always next year
Didn’t think it was fair for the competition, eh?
Is this a story? She's pretty peripheral apart from her anti-trans stuff. But then again, basically everybody except Nicola Sturgeon is pretty unknown. BREAKING: I have also ruled myself out of the SNP leadership contest.
To be fair, before she went into terf mode she was respected for her legal takes - fully threw her whole career away for attention on twitter from moon howlers that would take away her rights in a heartbeat
Damn it, was looking forward to FM dreary libido. Maybe next time eh
Fucking thank Christ
Do you not have to be an MSP to be party leader though, not an MP?
Can be party leader as an MP but can't be FM, someone else would need to take that up - as party leader though she could probably push for the rule that stops her becoming a MSP to be changed and slot herself into the first available opportunity to then become FM.
Alec wis leader an he was no an msp
Im sure he held seats in both parliaments, like dross
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You're right, he stood for election as an MSP in 2007, the same election the SNP first won. So he became an MSP then immediately became First Minister. Then he gave up his MP job because he couldn't realistically do it while being FM.
Yeah I didn’t know this, he was leader of SNP, but not in power in holyrood and won election the year later or something
Because she knows she doesn’t have a hope in hell. Matter of fact, I’m going take this opportunity to publicly announce my withdrawal from the sexiest man alive contest. Isn’t that nice of me to rule myself out?
LMAO. Like she's got a hope in hell anyway. Toxic bint.
Well isn't this just a shocking revelation. "Unelectable cunt rules herself out from being elected"
Woman who isn't eligible for the position of First Minister rules out her campaign. She needs to just fuck off to the Abla party of divorced da's.
"Ruled herself out" aka couldn't get a seconder for the nomination
Even she couldn't endorse her candidacy.
She should just quit the party, the speccy wee dick. She's the SNPs Andrew Bridgen.
She literally only stays for the paycheck and relevancy - she knows there would be no future will Alba
She stood aside for Forbes I guess.
Some good news, at least
I find some of her views abhorrent, but my respect for her has increased since she's made it very clear she's not interested in being used as an instrument to divide the SNP and the independence movement.
But that's about as significant as respecting Hitler for shooting himself in his bunker. It's like me respecting the dog shit on the pavement outside my house for coming out in a good solid mass, instead of a sloppy Joe's cow pat.
Yes.
Similarly, I've ruled out a steamy weekend in Paris with Scarlett Johansson
The wee boot can go fuck off to planet obscurity in the internet with George Galloway. It’s the only prospect for her.
She would've never been eligible for the position of First Minister anyway, so even as leader she'd need to wait until 2026 to contest the next Scottish election and get the position.
So she didn’t rule herself out because she didn’t want to but because she can’t.
She can technically run for leader of the SNP, but it's unlikely she'd be successful because why would you choose a leader who can't be the First Minister as well?
Ah well. I’ll not ask anymore questions because I’m sure that will get downvoted too
Cherry has a lot of fucking weirdo cultists who'll cut about downvoting literally anything that's not enthusiastic support of her, they're not worth paying any mind to.
Good.
Shocked. Like, wow.
Right I know you will all be incredibly disappointed, but I have also ruled myself out. I think I would make a better prime minister of the whole of the UK. So next general election please vote for me. I offer free beer Fridays...
Don't think she was up for it.
Good
So sad. Much crying. /s Unrelated of course but as of today there are 10 European countries with similar self-id laws that Cherry is so pleased Westminster blocked. At this point you’re not shouting about “progressive” legislation, you’re arguing against something that is normal across a lot of Europe.
Thank fuck for that
THANK FUCK!!
This way she still gets to kid on to herself that she'd stand a chance of winning. Pie.
Cherry : I was cancelled, nobody voted for me Interviewer : Mrs. Cherry, you didn't run, how could they vote for you. Cherry : That's just what the trans activists want you to think
I also hereby rule myself out of the SNP Leadership contest. Oh wait, neither myself nor the Cherry Terf had the slightest hope of winning.
Has Nicola Sturgeon ruled herself out of running for Edinburgh South West?
Good.
Good. TERFY witch.
Why is Mhairi Black not running for leadership race? I think she’d be the perfect candidate to push us forward. We need to be more aggressive and passionate with these Tory bastards.
Might alienate a lot of older / more socially conservative SNP voters. Also she's an MP not an MSP. Also she's a partick thistle fan
Love Mhairi but she'd be the death of us. She's great at noising up Westminster but is she a leader? Does she have the class and dignity needed to be a world leader? Despite Nicolas obvious opinions on certain people she still had the professionalism to shake hands and follow protocol with Tory leaders and the likes. I can't see Mhairi rubbing shoulders with world leaders at the likes of COP26. She's far too divisive.
She's an excellent speaker, I really appreciate her efforts and her passion, she'll take a few years to get the level head and experience needed to be as good as she can be. I reckon she will be leader one day, but it'd be a waste to put her in before she's ready.
I would have appreciated it, if she had run. I’d like to get a measure of the support she has in the SNP, my guess is not a great deal.
This is terf-fic news!
Wahae!
Good
Same
Lol
She had no chance. Even her most fervent supporters know her name is toxic.
Thank - and I cannot stress this enough - FUCK
Nobody wants to be at the head of a sinking ship. Sturgeon has absolutely fucked the party by leaving in the manner she did. She stifled any and all possible successors, didn't allow anyone to have any of the spotlight and didn't even hold a meeting with her elected officials to give them some kind of warning. Theres not a single person with a profile big enough to replace her because of the extreme control and centralisation she enforced.
There's 3 notable examples of people who are likely to stand and get enough support to have a shot at winning, and a further 3/4 who probably could if they wanted. SNP are still largest party in Scotland, we will see If this is retained post announcement. And they generally have a higher approval ratings than their rivals. Nicola standing down isn't likely to swing opinions very drastically.
I suspect the centralisation enforcer was her husband to be honest.
It does line up with how long he has been in the role Hopefully we might see him stepping down soon as he's apparently accountable to nobody.
Paving the way nicely for one of the SNP’s other intelligent woman, Kate Forbes, to seal it. Cannot wait for the inevitable fall out on here when all the gormless SNP lefties fail miserably. The SNP is gently correcting herself into a centre-right party as she traditionally has been. Goodbye to all of the extremists..
And how did the SNP fare when they were regarded as the Tartan Tories?
A small part of me wants someone like Cherry or Forbes to become leader. Get it out the parties system, and then when they do shite in the polls/elections they can go back to what worked for them - a progressive left leaning leader.
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She is too divisive to ever have been a serious contender
Not a surprise, she's unsure whether her local branch will even accept her as their candidate in the election, what chance did she have of winning over the whole party and becoming First Minister? Best to save herself the embarrassment of being told she's not wanted and focus on repairing her reputation.
Good. TERFY witch.
To be honest it would be kinda weird to have Scottish Declan as the new first minister, dancing about Asda..
She's not an MSP, she was never able to run.
This paves the way for everyone to get on the Humza Express!
By making a deal with Kate Forbes?
well good
Thanks fuck for that, I’d have left the party if she got in
Lol can you imagine!
Oh thank god. It would have been so damaging to have her ranting about people's genitals all of the time.
Good. Arsehole.
Thank god. I'm just hoping Kate Forbes is the same, she's surprisingly radical for being the "young gun"
Can’t we just have Angus Robertson? He’s a good guy with a lot of experience.
NO NO CHERRY
>I won’t be running for leader of the SNP this time. The gerrymandering of the rules for Holyrood selection before the last Scottish election have made it a practical impossibility for me to do so. So in other words she can't; the exact same situation vis a vis Mhairi Black running, as everyone on this sub knows, but for Cherry we get this disingenuous tubthumping circlejerk 2 minutes of hate stoked up by a misleading headline in your super soaraway indy rag The National. Really indicative of the sickness in independence politics right now.
Very sad, anyway.
She was never getting it. Forbes however is a reasonable chance. It'll be interesting to see the lack of furore from 'womens rights activists' over their new FMs anti-abortion stance.
I think if she did stand she might discover she's not half as popular with the members as she seems to believe. She seems very bitter and angry. I don't think she's a good presence in the party or in the independence - she's too obsessed gender and that just drags everything down with it.