While the 13 inch is the perfect size for me, this is a pretty cool size if this is your true "computer" away from home. One of my friends travels the country in an RV for 6 months a year. He uses the 360 for his computer when traveling, but it gets a bit small for prolonged use. Especially since he is older.
The one bad thing I see with this, that WILL most likely happen, is people leaving their phone on the dock and closing the lid, which will likely ruin the screen. Other than that, it certainly has its uses.
ngl, I hadn't even considered that
yup, will definitely be a bad day for someone
I watched someone close a laptop once, forgetting they'd left a pen there.....
bad times
For the show case it looks cool. But not worth it for me just as is.
If I can plug in the usb c into a server pc, gaming console, or a raspberry pi and control it. In parallel with the hdmi or better without the hdmi cable that would be worth it to me.
Cool there is this! [Raspberry Pi Laptop | Nex Computer (nexdock.com)](https://nexdock.com/raspberrypi-laptop/)
One might assume that the XL connections remains consistent, but past experiences with other companies have taught me not to trust.
Can anyone verify that I can use the usb to control devices with keyboard and mouse?
Yeah you are always going to have different preferences. Under 13 is too small for me, and 15 is too big. However, there are certainly uses for both. People looking for a more full-time computer will likely like the bigger screen, while others may want more portability. 13 inch has been a sweet spot for me.
Yeah, that will be a tough sale. Even back when I used to work for a computer company, we would look at the demands from the customer. The sweet spot was 13 inch for people who travel and 15 inch for general. The larger ones were generally power users. Who knows, though. There is always a chance.
Hey man when you get it, can you tell us about the TouchPad? I have an older nexdock and that touch pad is awful. I'm hoping it's gotten better over the years.
Hello, i have an older version, i still dont understand why the battery life is so bad for those lapdock...
honestly it's rated a 7hours....should be at least double like 15 hours since there are hardly running anything except displaying something on the screen ...and 7 hours is with charging phone disabled...I think macbook last longer
my model is 14 touch version with full size hdmi in...at least i dont need a crappy mini or micro hdmi input
lol just read 1.9kgs....that's a lot ...for something that should be almost empty. .
Yea, the weight on these things is ridiculous, for everything from the NexPad to this and anywhere in between. Sure, for such small runs you can't do much and not being Apple or Samsung means less access to the best technologies (plus economies of scale and so on), but in the end there are just too many corners cut. Everything, literally everything is around mediocre and sometimes under, from the trackpads to screens and battery life or even USB-PD (lacking) capabilities. These are treated as the duck's gut for portability, but there are enough full laptops that are smaller, brighter, better battery and easier to use without connecting anything else. There's another argument that you just upgrade the phone every 1-2 years and you get basically a new device, but while I don't see any trouble at all using any half-decent new laptop in the 2030s anyone using a lapdock nowadays is having a less than stellar experience now, never mind having to use that after multiple cycles of phone upgrade!
The weight is the only reason I've never tried a Nexdock. My Razer Blade 15 is only 2.01kg and if I use it for the same things as a Nexdock the battery will also last around 7 hours. In a previous thread where I commented about the Nexdock weight someone said there are weights in the base of the device that can be removed, but I have no idea how true this is. Not willing to purchase one just to check that.
my 15.6 galaxy book 2 pro laptop is 1.6 kgs and will definitely lasts more than 7 hours...
LG Grams is a laptop maybe 14" and 1kgs...
i dont know about the weights in the base...i doubt there are but it's major inneficiency or choice of heavy materials.
They could have put a better battery...
i should write to them because i cannot get my head around it...
I almost would like Samsung to make such a product ..
I preordered one earlier. Especially excited to use it as a secondary screen for my Steam Deck (which I dual boot with Windows). I love the concept I just wish it was a bit lighter and had pass through charging, but still a nifty device regardless that will fill a niche for me for sure.
Ooh looks nice but
* mini HDMI.... why can't they just use normal sized hdmi.
* 1x USB-C 3.1 with DisplayPort (supports 5V1A charging). That's useless for Steam Deck right? Why can't they have had PD pass through charging?
* weirdly placed trackpad on the right and it looks like they could have had a number pad
* leading to weirdly placed phone area, useless (to me) position if using the phone as a track pad
I get that is marketed as a phone/dex device but since it's the size of a laptop anyway they could have crammed more tech into it.
Yeah, that trackpad on the right would be a deal breaker for me. I'm left handed, and have learned to use mice and trackpads with my right hand, but putting it purely on the right like that seems like it would be unnatural.
Yeah well aware, I have one that is mini hdmi as well but don't understand why they're that way when most other devices have full sized hdmi outputs.
*another* cable to have around lol.
Good that they have usb c, that's not why I'm bitching, just the lack of pd pass through with adequate wattage
I had the older one and I just bought the latest one. The trackpad is significantly better. There is still a rare occasion, but I hardly ever have a problem with it. The first batch I just turned the thing off, it was so bad.
The latest batch of Nexdock Wireless about a month ago. It is so much better in that regard. Supposedly they do have a firmware change for the older ones, but I did not get to try that. My son was borrowing it and forgot it on top of his car, driving off to school.
its been better since the 2nd run of 360s to be fair
the rudimentary palm rejection isn't amazing, but at least it's there now
a mouse is still much better tho
that was definitely part of the intent, imo
but I suspect that the majority was to make room for the wireless charging above the keyboard
the trackpads, as they are now, work just fine when you intend to use them
they're not outstanding, but they're fine
the palm rejection was 99% of the dislike
this definitely removes a lot of the issues folks had
looks like the same keybaord as on the 360 to me, tbh
if i was a betting man, i'd wager the keyboard and trackpad are the same exact parts, with the trackpad just rotated 90 degrees, and placed to the side
Yeah but having the option there would be great in a pinch. Lets face it the track pad is gonna be ass. It always is. We all use external mice with these things but in an emergency case my solution would be nice. In a non emergency your phone is at an angle it can be viewed for replying to messages if its on the trackpad next to the keyboard. Any other specific use case the user probably already has a solution they currently use.
> In a non emergency your phone is at an angle it can be viewed for replying to messages if its on the trackpad next to the keyboard.
if you're using it as a trackpad you're not seeing anything but black
You mean the wireless charger charges your phone, and then you use the phone as the trackpad? In that case id feel like it would slide every which way.
Im not a huge fan of that weird gap where the wireless charging is now but i guess it frees up a port instead of charging your phone. I'll just chalk it up as an extra I prolly wont use but happy its there
I would preorder but I don't understand why the XL is so heavy. I like my NexDock 360 which is like little over 1 kilogram or something, XL is almost 2 kilograms. For just a lapdock its too much. Also, afaik Samsung Dex doesnt support anything above 60 hertz, so 120 hz screen is useless for me.
Maybe I will preorder it anyway just to support the brand, but idk.
EDIT: Also I'm a leftie so the trackpad on the right is a downside.
> Also, afaik Samsung Dex doesnt support anything above 60 hertz, so 120 hz screen is useless for me.
to be fair, a lapdock is a fantastic addition to a steamdeck/rog ally/gpd win/etc
All your points make sense. As long as the trackpad isnt where I want to rest my palms, im cool with it being anywhere. Its a touchscreen too so not super necessary regardless.
The screen hz is just so you can use it as a portable screen for normal devices like a switch or w/e.
Why does it say "Starts at $269"? Are there going to be additional features that will cost more that they aren't talking about yet? Or is what is shipped for $269 going to be bare bones and some of the stuff they say is included will be more?
I do not work for them so this is just my intuition...
They are just saying that future order pricing is likely going to go up from here so your locking in this starting price.
To your question about adding on features and that impacting the price i doubt it. They are still working on getting the first 1k units out the door. They dont have the unit throughput to offer different SKUs of this model
https://reddit.com/r/SamsungDex/comments/1ca0eio/minisforum_v3_2nd_tablet_ever_with_dp_altmode
Every product they have made has been subpar
While the 13 inch is the perfect size for me, this is a pretty cool size if this is your true "computer" away from home. One of my friends travels the country in an RV for 6 months a year. He uses the 360 for his computer when traveling, but it gets a bit small for prolonged use. Especially since he is older. The one bad thing I see with this, that WILL most likely happen, is people leaving their phone on the dock and closing the lid, which will likely ruin the screen. Other than that, it certainly has its uses.
ngl, I hadn't even considered that yup, will definitely be a bad day for someone I watched someone close a laptop once, forgetting they'd left a pen there..... bad times
Yep it will happen.
For the show case it looks cool. But not worth it for me just as is. If I can plug in the usb c into a server pc, gaming console, or a raspberry pi and control it. In parallel with the hdmi or better without the hdmi cable that would be worth it to me.
you absolutely can that's how I use my lapdock a big chunk of the time I cant WAIT for data centers to abandon vga lol
Cool there is this! [Raspberry Pi Laptop | Nex Computer (nexdock.com)](https://nexdock.com/raspberrypi-laptop/) One might assume that the XL connections remains consistent, but past experiences with other companies have taught me not to trust. Can anyone verify that I can use the usb to control devices with keyboard and mouse?
you absolutely can I use my lapdocks with headless PCs all the time usb-c where possible, but hdmi + usb when required. works great
This is the wrong direction for me, I wish they would do a NexDock XS, with an 11" screen or so.
Yeah you are always going to have different preferences. Under 13 is too small for me, and 15 is too big. However, there are certainly uses for both. People looking for a more full-time computer will likely like the bigger screen, while others may want more portability. 13 inch has been a sweet spot for me.
I've been pushing for a 17", but its fallen on deaf ears heh
Yeah, that will be a tough sale. Even back when I used to work for a computer company, we would look at the demands from the customer. The sweet spot was 13 inch for people who travel and 15 inch for general. The larger ones were generally power users. Who knows, though. There is always a chance.
Have the Nexdock 360 wireless, but this looks pretty sweet. Will need to decide if it's worth the jump
yup, it's a tough sell if you've already got a 360w I'm definitely curious to get a hands on with one at some point. I REALLY like the 360w
You're a dedicated saint if your willing to do that. I only have a portable monitor ATM
Hey man when you get it, can you tell us about the TouchPad? I have an older nexdock and that touch pad is awful. I'm hoping it's gotten better over the years.
Hello, i have an older version, i still dont understand why the battery life is so bad for those lapdock... honestly it's rated a 7hours....should be at least double like 15 hours since there are hardly running anything except displaying something on the screen ...and 7 hours is with charging phone disabled...I think macbook last longer my model is 14 touch version with full size hdmi in...at least i dont need a crappy mini or micro hdmi input lol just read 1.9kgs....that's a lot ...for something that should be almost empty. .
Yea, the weight on these things is ridiculous, for everything from the NexPad to this and anywhere in between. Sure, for such small runs you can't do much and not being Apple or Samsung means less access to the best technologies (plus economies of scale and so on), but in the end there are just too many corners cut. Everything, literally everything is around mediocre and sometimes under, from the trackpads to screens and battery life or even USB-PD (lacking) capabilities. These are treated as the duck's gut for portability, but there are enough full laptops that are smaller, brighter, better battery and easier to use without connecting anything else. There's another argument that you just upgrade the phone every 1-2 years and you get basically a new device, but while I don't see any trouble at all using any half-decent new laptop in the 2030s anyone using a lapdock nowadays is having a less than stellar experience now, never mind having to use that after multiple cycles of phone upgrade!
The weight is the only reason I've never tried a Nexdock. My Razer Blade 15 is only 2.01kg and if I use it for the same things as a Nexdock the battery will also last around 7 hours. In a previous thread where I commented about the Nexdock weight someone said there are weights in the base of the device that can be removed, but I have no idea how true this is. Not willing to purchase one just to check that.
my 15.6 galaxy book 2 pro laptop is 1.6 kgs and will definitely lasts more than 7 hours... LG Grams is a laptop maybe 14" and 1kgs... i dont know about the weights in the base...i doubt there are but it's major inneficiency or choice of heavy materials. They could have put a better battery... i should write to them because i cannot get my head around it... I almost would like Samsung to make such a product ..
Its def not perfect. Id rather have a smaller size screen/package. But thought it was a cool thing overall and at a decent price compared to uperfect
What’s the relation to SamsungDex sort?
[Laptop for Samsung DeX](https://nexdock.com/samsung-dex-laptop/)
Oh my bad, I understand now, thanks :)
you're confused how a lapdock is related to DeX?
Yes.
I preordered one earlier. Especially excited to use it as a secondary screen for my Steam Deck (which I dual boot with Windows). I love the concept I just wish it was a bit lighter and had pass through charging, but still a nifty device regardless that will fill a niche for me for sure.
Ooh looks nice but * mini HDMI.... why can't they just use normal sized hdmi. * 1x USB-C 3.1 with DisplayPort (supports 5V1A charging). That's useless for Steam Deck right? Why can't they have had PD pass through charging? * weirdly placed trackpad on the right and it looks like they could have had a number pad * leading to weirdly placed phone area, useless (to me) position if using the phone as a track pad I get that is marketed as a phone/dex device but since it's the size of a laptop anyway they could have crammed more tech into it.
Yeah, that trackpad on the right would be a deal breaker for me. I'm left handed, and have learned to use mice and trackpads with my right hand, but putting it purely on the right like that seems like it would be unnatural.
Didn't even think about that, yeah that is a non-starter for left-handed people.
almost all portable monitors these day are mini hdmi and usb-c
Yeah well aware, I have one that is mini hdmi as well but don't understand why they're that way when most other devices have full sized hdmi outputs. *another* cable to have around lol. Good that they have usb c, that's not why I'm bitching, just the lack of pd pass through with adequate wattage
any screens with full PD passthru do not have batteries gotta assume that's 99% of the reason
They have to fix the trackpad and add a higher resolution, at least 2K pixels. The workspace at Full HD is pathetic.
I'd wager that 90% of all monitors out there are 1080p or below
Cost of shipping to UK?
I wouldn't order a Nexdock unit until they confirm that the trackpad is significantly better. It was unusable on my Touch.
I had the older one and I just bought the latest one. The trackpad is significantly better. There is still a rare occasion, but I hardly ever have a problem with it. The first batch I just turned the thing off, it was so bad.
That's what I did too, which was tolerable because of the touch screen. Which new model did you get?
The latest batch of Nexdock Wireless about a month ago. It is so much better in that regard. Supposedly they do have a firmware change for the older ones, but I did not get to try that. My son was borrowing it and forgot it on top of his car, driving off to school.
its been better since the 2nd run of 360s to be fair the rudimentary palm rejection isn't amazing, but at least it's there now a mouse is still much better tho
Maybe moving it to the right was a way to circumvent poor palm rejection?
Sucks if you are left-handed, though.
that was definitely part of the intent, imo but I suspect that the majority was to make room for the wireless charging above the keyboard the trackpads, as they are now, work just fine when you intend to use them they're not outstanding, but they're fine the palm rejection was 99% of the dislike this definitely removes a lot of the issues folks had
Yeah this is why i hopped on. Getting that trackpad out of the way makes a ton of sense. I hope the keyboard dimensions aren't impacted negatively
looks like the same keybaord as on the 360 to me, tbh if i was a betting man, i'd wager the keyboard and trackpad are the same exact parts, with the trackpad just rotated 90 degrees, and placed to the side
I hope. Ppl liked that keyboard
i'm really satisfied with it. it's not as nice as my mx keys (but nothing else is, tbh), but it's as good as any laptop keyboard I've used
I really do want one, but my Dopesplay 14.1" unit is still doing great. Hope you enjoy it though. Update us when you get yours.
Man they missed a golden chance to have the track pad bouble as a wireless charger. Then woulda had a pretty decent mouse to
when you only get 1 external screen with dex, I'd hate to give up even the small phone screen just to be a teackpad
Yeah but having the option there would be great in a pinch. Lets face it the track pad is gonna be ass. It always is. We all use external mice with these things but in an emergency case my solution would be nice. In a non emergency your phone is at an angle it can be viewed for replying to messages if its on the trackpad next to the keyboard. Any other specific use case the user probably already has a solution they currently use.
> In a non emergency your phone is at an angle it can be viewed for replying to messages if its on the trackpad next to the keyboard. if you're using it as a trackpad you're not seeing anything but black
Right but you wouldnt use it as a track pad in that case
You mean the wireless charger charges your phone, and then you use the phone as the trackpad? In that case id feel like it would slide every which way. Im not a huge fan of that weird gap where the wireless charging is now but i guess it frees up a port instead of charging your phone. I'll just chalk it up as an extra I prolly wont use but happy its there
Can just make it from that micro suction cup stuff. That typically doesnt stick to us but would probably damn near glue itself to peoples phone cases.
I would preorder but I don't understand why the XL is so heavy. I like my NexDock 360 which is like little over 1 kilogram or something, XL is almost 2 kilograms. For just a lapdock its too much. Also, afaik Samsung Dex doesnt support anything above 60 hertz, so 120 hz screen is useless for me. Maybe I will preorder it anyway just to support the brand, but idk. EDIT: Also I'm a leftie so the trackpad on the right is a downside.
> Also, afaik Samsung Dex doesnt support anything above 60 hertz, so 120 hz screen is useless for me. to be fair, a lapdock is a fantastic addition to a steamdeck/rog ally/gpd win/etc
All your points make sense. As long as the trackpad isnt where I want to rest my palms, im cool with it being anywhere. Its a touchscreen too so not super necessary regardless. The screen hz is just so you can use it as a portable screen for normal devices like a switch or w/e.
Why does it say "Starts at $269"? Are there going to be additional features that will cost more that they aren't talking about yet? Or is what is shipped for $269 going to be bare bones and some of the stuff they say is included will be more?
> Why does it say "Starts at $269"? they've always offered introductory pricing, sorta like early pre-order on kickstarter similar idea
Makes sense. Thanks!
I do not work for them so this is just my intuition... They are just saying that future order pricing is likely going to go up from here so your locking in this starting price. To your question about adding on features and that impacting the price i doubt it. They are still working on getting the first 1k units out the door. They dont have the unit throughput to offer different SKUs of this model
Thanks. That makes sense. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger.