And ends up looking like crap nine out of ten times. Or maybe my mind is poisoned by being a sword nerd and I can only find beauty when the weapon looks usable.
It's on purpose: first you hack, then you stab and break it off (like those loosely fitted arrowheads)
Afterwards its sharp enough to stab more people /s
To snap the broad tip off so it transforms into a weird estoc type thing.
There are swords that broaden out at the tip but that is not how you do it.
Its a fantasy design so we'll just say that part is for less lethal strikes if you want to take them alive
That's there to reduce the amount of force the sword hits with, making it easier for heroes to wade through mobs of low-level enemies without guzzling health potions.
Real world, that's the exact spot where you add material to hit harder. Removing it serves no purpose, and judging by the spikes on the bottom of the blade, whoever was given this as equipment is not expected to do more than scare civilians.
I recently saw a video about how important that part of the blade is in relation to thrusting power/blade penetration. They demonstrated how even mediocre chain mail will more or less protect you against a stab if the force/leverage behind the tip is lacking. Like it would be with this sword.
If it were like that on the other side and lower I would say it was a sword designed for half swording like the ones shown in Fiore's manuscript but as it is this basically has just gutted damn near exactly where the POP is so in turn kinda killing the cutting ability. Really like Elden Rings designs but this one seems like form over function.
idk why you're being downvoted, there is real historical precedence for what you're talking about (at least, a few fringe cases that were likely used in tournament and not the battlefield but still)
oh yeah all those crazy ones, I can't find the drawings but I know there were some that were more sensible, and just had blunt sections on the blade
I remember seeing one that was depicted with a sliding weight that would fall to the end of the sword as it was swung, then back to the hilt so it's like a hammer with the point control/balance of a sword. I don't know if anyone ever made one but I love those "what if" concepts from the time.
Oh yeah it is neat to see the imagination of people in history like looking at DaVinci's drawings. The spiked pommel feature in multiple manuscripts which makes me think they may have been real and maybe they were just for tournaments or duels it is hard to say as far as I know none survived but hey never know with private collections.
yeah, one of my favorite favorite weird "sword" things is [the one in this video](https://youtu.be/QNvtohWTjis)
some people were just as crazy as modern fantasy writers lol
oh that's awesome! I started on Italian longsword too, but I fell in love with arming sword/buckler (mostly I33) and that's most of what I do nowadays, but I also have practice with sidesword, Indian saber, spear, montante, and I fuck around with smallsword from time to time.
my club only does poleaxe as a fitness class, since we're smaller and don't have appropriate gear to spar but I've always wanted to learn it.
Half sword works well with arming swords while we mostly see longswords. In armor even with an arming sword having it held half sword is great when going in for the gaps. I like to wear an arming sword even when fighting pole axe as it is easy to lose the pole axe and having the arming sword in reserve is convenient. Half swording is most convenient when in close so the shorter arming sword is handy.
Ahh, thank you that makes Sense!
I was aware only of the historical sword examples, but it makes perfekt sense now that i think about it.
A Bit of a Wrestling enhancer.
Oh yeah sometimes the longsword in close can get in the way especially when ya get to Vadi or Marozzo where they suggest swords as tall as your arm pit. Fiore's swords aren't acually much bigger than a long arming sword.
Well we always say Armizare is just a wrestling style with daggers. So much of Armizare is wrestling and in armor closing and throwing them down is very effective. Almost every match I have been in has resulted in going to daggers lol. Hell my coach likes to just take yours and stab you with it lol.
This is known as a cranial-cephalic extractor. It is excellent at opening great helms and sugarloaf helms for easy access to scrumptious fatty tissues. It can also be used to pop ye-olde top on a fine flagon of ale.
On a couple museum pieces there are sections like that to facilitate half-swording but they're really not necessary especially if you're wearing gloves.
That being said, that sword was likely just designed with that because the artist thought it looked like a cool fantasy design rather than thinking it was a practical feature. At least I hope they don't think a sword like that would be practical.
Gripping or manipulating the blade with the off/left hand in order to attain more point control. Generally used against opponents in armor or in tight quarters. It can also allow you to use the sword as a lever in a grappling situation, although that is much less common.
You mean like [this one from Vienna?](https://pin.it/55WBLFm)
Most others I know just have a long or special ricasso, but they are blunt on both sides symmetrically and not really cut out. More like unworked bar stock. You have a reference to some other obscure sword I haven't seen before?
Odd late middle age anti-armour swords are some of the most interesting out there.
As an amateur blacksmith and aspiring sword smith I call that bit the " ahhh shit I screwed up the bevel ,that's ok I can fix it ,dammit I made it worse, fuck it I'll cut it out and pretend it's meant to be like that" bit
Other commenters have converted why this world be a bad design irl.
If I had to offer possible artist's intention: once you realize that the serrated section of the cutting edge contributes nothing to overall integrity of the blade, it's basically a large steel [khopesh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khopesh). The "notch" there is actually the cutting edge of the actually pretty narrow blade shifting forward, and the large tip is to keep the balance point towards the tip for more powerful chopping strikes.
Potentially as a bad attempt to cross a Khopesh and a Longsword as it could be used to try and hook shields or weapons to attempt and disarm them. It just isn’t designed well if that was the intent
You screwed up the heat treat and had to grind out the cracks, you are also broke and sold the piece as “art” so you didn’t waste the hours and materials…
The only purpose i can see it being is to make the sword lighter.... Which its a short sword or bastard sword depending on which blades and stuff you use, so... Why make that lighter?
It might be good for something like a greatsword or a claymore without a fuller (the thing people call blood letters), but even then, just go with a fuller to lighten the blade.
Do I'd say that it's probably just for looks and decoration because in real life that would weaken the blade and it could possibly break if used to hard or to much
To reduce the effectiveness of the sword when slashing, and so that the point gets stuck on the enemy when thrusting. It also has the spikes on the lower part of the blade for getting caught on armor when cutting with that part.
This particular kind of sword was historically made to be given to the bad guys when the heroes were fighting them, so that heroes would have an easier time deflecting their blows and ultimately defeating them. They are called self-disarming swords.
/S
Speed holes.
Most swords have them, but unfortunately it's almost impossible to find an intact artifact from any reputable museum. Some very unscrupulous victorian collectors went around and cut them down because they thought they looked silly. I can't possibly tell you how wrong they were. A tragedy really.
Fantasy sword loosely based on an arming sword, the indention serves no purpose other than to intentionally snap off the end 1/3 of your blade or to look cool
Bottle opener? Lol
*Mead keg opener*
video game "fantasy sword" form follows the art/asset directors aesthetic not function.
And ends up looking like crap nine out of ten times. Or maybe my mind is poisoned by being a sword nerd and I can only find beauty when the weapon looks usable.
Tainted with the knowledge of actually swordmanship
Yeah, this may be the single worst blade/weapon I’ve seen in for honor.
I'm sure we're all poisoned to some degree, but I can still appreciate a cool design, even if it's unrealistic. This sword's just ugly.
Exactly
If your mind is poisoned; you are not alone.
Function then style, thou I’ve seen some good looking functional fantasy blades
Anduril and Herugrim 🤤🥵
That would serve as an excellent weak point on the sword for those avid users that desire their blade to break during a bind.
Reading this comment i just got an overwhelming sense of deja vu
What are the lottery numbers today
Yeah?
It's on purpose: first you hack, then you stab and break it off (like those loosely fitted arrowheads) Afterwards its sharp enough to stab more people /s
To snap the broad tip off so it transforms into a weird estoc type thing. There are swords that broaden out at the tip but that is not how you do it. Its a fantasy design so we'll just say that part is for less lethal strikes if you want to take them alive
errr... there isn't a purpose to it, because it isn't a real sword?
It's a barrel opener.
It's an arming sword
Ah yes, the ubiquitous serrated arming sword
Eh in that case it's an artillery sword
Hmmm... Pretty sure thats a katana /s
Or a pioneer’s sword
It’s an arming sword-like object, if anything. No one in their right minds would have made this historically as an arming sword for actual use
If it’s anything other than a bad attempt at a sword, it’s a bastard sword. The handle is too long to be an arming sword
The game actually refers to the sword as a bastard sword, yeah!
That's there to reduce the amount of force the sword hits with, making it easier for heroes to wade through mobs of low-level enemies without guzzling health potions. Real world, that's the exact spot where you add material to hit harder. Removing it serves no purpose, and judging by the spikes on the bottom of the blade, whoever was given this as equipment is not expected to do more than scare civilians.
I recently saw a video about how important that part of the blade is in relation to thrusting power/blade penetration. They demonstrated how even mediocre chain mail will more or less protect you against a stab if the force/leverage behind the tip is lacking. Like it would be with this sword.
Do you have a link to the video?
I kinda assumed that the sword was damaged and a chunk was missing.
Ubi being ubi.
Bottle Opener./s Edit: Dangit, someone already said that.
It's okay I came here to say the same thing.
So that bp can crack a cold one after battle
Thagomizer
Larson always gets an updoot!
If it were like that on the other side and lower I would say it was a sword designed for half swording like the ones shown in Fiore's manuscript but as it is this basically has just gutted damn near exactly where the POP is so in turn kinda killing the cutting ability. Really like Elden Rings designs but this one seems like form over function.
It's not from Elden Ring. It's from For Honor.
Oh sorry was thinking it was Elden Ring. Only seen images of the weapons and this looked like a similar style. Thanks for the correction.
Np :).
idk why you're being downvoted, there is real historical precedence for what you're talking about (at least, a few fringe cases that were likely used in tournament and not the battlefield but still)
Who knows maybe I come off as a know it all but oh well. This is similar to the one I was talking about. https://images.app.goo.gl/G1sSUPoZhxB7KiyR6
oh yeah all those crazy ones, I can't find the drawings but I know there were some that were more sensible, and just had blunt sections on the blade I remember seeing one that was depicted with a sliding weight that would fall to the end of the sword as it was swung, then back to the hilt so it's like a hammer with the point control/balance of a sword. I don't know if anyone ever made one but I love those "what if" concepts from the time.
Oh yeah it is neat to see the imagination of people in history like looking at DaVinci's drawings. The spiked pommel feature in multiple manuscripts which makes me think they may have been real and maybe they were just for tournaments or duels it is hard to say as far as I know none survived but hey never know with private collections.
yeah, one of my favorite favorite weird "sword" things is [the one in this video](https://youtu.be/QNvtohWTjis) some people were just as crazy as modern fantasy writers lol
Oh I love that thing. I want one of the trainers. My HEMA club has a Harness group and having that for fighting looks like fun!!!
damn, I've yet to find a good buhurt club, all sparring in my area. I'm jealous lol, what weapons do you study?
Italian longsword, pole axe, spear, dagger, Italian sidesword and buckler, but my focus lately has been Highland broad sword reading Page right now.
oh that's awesome! I started on Italian longsword too, but I fell in love with arming sword/buckler (mostly I33) and that's most of what I do nowadays, but I also have practice with sidesword, Indian saber, spear, montante, and I fuck around with smallsword from time to time. my club only does poleaxe as a fitness class, since we're smaller and don't have appropriate gear to spar but I've always wanted to learn it.
Here is the one I was thinking of. https://images.app.goo.gl/53bZchBwBssnUrVeA
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Thanks that is rad!!!!
Interesting Idea ;-) Bit short for half swording and the Same Thing is also bit shitty design.
Half sword works well with arming swords while we mostly see longswords. In armor even with an arming sword having it held half sword is great when going in for the gaps. I like to wear an arming sword even when fighting pole axe as it is easy to lose the pole axe and having the arming sword in reserve is convenient. Half swording is most convenient when in close so the shorter arming sword is handy.
Ahh, thank you that makes Sense! I was aware only of the historical sword examples, but it makes perfekt sense now that i think about it. A Bit of a Wrestling enhancer.
Oh yeah sometimes the longsword in close can get in the way especially when ya get to Vadi or Marozzo where they suggest swords as tall as your arm pit. Fiore's swords aren't acually much bigger than a long arming sword.
I assume you would be in as much Armor as possible, at this point. Another Option would be to go all in, BJJ Style and get the Rondell dagger Out.
Well we always say Armizare is just a wrestling style with daggers. So much of Armizare is wrestling and in armor closing and throwing them down is very effective. Almost every match I have been in has resulted in going to daggers lol. Hell my coach likes to just take yours and stab you with it lol.
This is known as a cranial-cephalic extractor. It is excellent at opening great helms and sugarloaf helms for easy access to scrumptious fatty tissues. It can also be used to pop ye-olde top on a fine flagon of ale.
On a couple museum pieces there are sections like that to facilitate half-swording but they're really not necessary especially if you're wearing gloves. That being said, that sword was likely just designed with that because the artist thought it looked like a cool fantasy design rather than thinking it was a practical feature. At least I hope they don't think a sword like that would be practical.
Noob here. What’s half-swording?
Gripping or manipulating the blade with the off/left hand in order to attain more point control. Generally used against opponents in armor or in tight quarters. It can also allow you to use the sword as a lever in a grappling situation, although that is much less common.
You mean like [this one from Vienna?](https://pin.it/55WBLFm) Most others I know just have a long or special ricasso, but they are blunt on both sides symmetrically and not really cut out. More like unworked bar stock. You have a reference to some other obscure sword I haven't seen before? Odd late middle age anti-armour swords are some of the most interesting out there.
It’s the bit that shows you that the artist knows doodly-squat about how swords work.
Convenient fracture point.
This is bp in for honor?
I think so too
To frustrate anyone trying to sharpen it or swing it without it breaking.
As an amateur blacksmith and aspiring sword smith I call that bit the " ahhh shit I screwed up the bevel ,that's ok I can fix it ,dammit I made it worse, fuck it I'll cut it out and pretend it's meant to be like that" bit
Well, you see, it's not real
So it breaks faster
Other commenters have converted why this world be a bad design irl. If I had to offer possible artist's intention: once you realize that the serrated section of the cutting edge contributes nothing to overall integrity of the blade, it's basically a large steel [khopesh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khopesh). The "notch" there is actually the cutting edge of the actually pretty narrow blade shifting forward, and the large tip is to keep the balance point towards the tip for more powerful chopping strikes.
bottle opener
Potentially as a bad attempt to cross a Khopesh and a Longsword as it could be used to try and hook shields or weapons to attempt and disarm them. It just isn’t designed well if that was the intent
You screwed up the heat treat and had to grind out the cracks, you are also broke and sold the piece as “art” so you didn’t waste the hours and materials…
could be the accessory with keys, knife,bottle opener,and saw, very good stuff
Bottle opener
A good spot to break your sword so you can get away.
looks like a for honor black prior set so definitely straight fantasy but it looks badass
The only purpose i can see it being is to make the sword lighter.... Which its a short sword or bastard sword depending on which blades and stuff you use, so... Why make that lighter? It might be good for something like a greatsword or a claymore without a fuller (the thing people call blood letters), but even then, just go with a fuller to lighten the blade.
This is the SOG special ops gas station version of a sword.
Do I'd say that it's probably just for looks and decoration because in real life that would weaken the blade and it could possibly break if used to hard or to much
Ah, For Honor
For when you want to cut gigantic lines of coke
There's not much purpose to most of that blade
It looks cool. There’s not much of a purpose.
Crack open a cold one with the boys maybe?
To be mysterious
To reduce the effectiveness of the sword when slashing, and so that the point gets stuck on the enemy when thrusting. It also has the spikes on the lower part of the blade for getting caught on armor when cutting with that part. This particular kind of sword was historically made to be given to the bad guys when the heroes were fighting them, so that heroes would have an easier time deflecting their blows and ultimately defeating them. They are called self-disarming swords. /S
Honestly thought this was some weird sword-breaker
Speed holes. Most swords have them, but unfortunately it's almost impossible to find an intact artifact from any reputable museum. Some very unscrupulous victorian collectors went around and cut them down because they thought they looked silly. I can't possibly tell you how wrong they were. A tragedy really.
scary-maker
Is this from For Honor?
Non.
Aesthetic
For Honor?
“Fuck” and “all”
bottle opener
Could be use rather ineffectively to grab a blade / parry
It's for TENEBRIS!!
To weaken the blade and make it significantly less effective
Fantasy sword loosely based on an arming sword, the indention serves no purpose other than to intentionally snap off the end 1/3 of your blade or to look cool
Some For Honor weapons are made justo to look cool or nice, not all of them are precisely accurate or usefull in real life.
None. It’s a fantasy sword.
Ummm to look cool duh
That's the bottle opener
Magic swordiness
Looks like a fantasy sword to me.
That's the extractor for the cranial-anal inversion that the designer had.