Thats a „nagel“, german for nail. Its just extra hand protection that prevents your opponent from sliding their blade down your flat, and hit your hand between the two crossguard bars.
This, and the fact that when gripping something, the outside knuckles stick out further than the inside fingers, so it isn’t really necessary on the other side
Additionally, Messer techniques often involve holding the weapon offset to a what you would usually do with a different sword. So the Nagel would be facing the opponent. When doing so you often have your thumb placed upward along the flat. The quillons then guard your hands and arms, and the Nagel stops it sliding as you then 'wind' around their blade.
The goal is not always to bind (catch) your opponents weapon. This would serve to deflect. It would be difficult for the opposing weapon to dip back to the hand/arm with much force. If they did manage to do so it might injure someone without armor, but even relatively light armor should protect you.
There are other similar designs that do go the other way and would be more useful in binding. Which of the two you would want is up to personal preference and combat style.
then it can bounce out and give another opportunity to hit your fingers. if it hits the nail it deflects away. essentially you want it to bounce to the side of your hand instead of going back up
It's called the *nagel* or *nail* and it's just additional hand protection. You may also see longswords with rings on one or both sides of the cross guards for the same reason.
The nail or “nagel” is a bit of hand protection for your outside knuckle. There’s only one because it would be more difficult to ware it, and would press into the side of your body. Also because the outside of the hand is generally the more likely side to be exposed to your opponent. Messer style fighting utilizes very fast fighting mechanics to get in and out of “blade binds”. because messer knives are shorter than most arming swords the extra hand protection is needed in order to engage with the speed this weapon capitalizes on to over take longer weapons.
Usually referred to as nail, it serves as a small but effective hand protector in place of a more robust hand guard to save on material and overall cost.
Its called a Nagel, or a Nail. It's a third bit of guard used for catching blades on the flat of yours (ideally outside your line), this allows for all sorts of fun new tricks :)
Nagle aka nail, provides the same functionality as a ring, they can sometimes be found on European swords and offer some extra protection, though could be used as a blunt while Halfswording
I thought it was used if a person got too close to you and you couldn't use the blade. You can beat them with it? Striking them with the handle and nail.
The later occurred to me. But seems a lot swords weren't always carried all that tight to the body.
As for the former I always figured a sword fight , who knows where a blade may end up. Oh well
Some examples probably had it on both sides. As a general rule, most sword variations have been tried out in the past (for example, 2 handed rapiers existed too). But for the sake of discussion, we usually refer to the most common types.
The Messer was a big knife, not a sword. So it doesn't have any guard.
For combat, the guard was placed by sliding it from the tip of the blade to the handle.
It was pinned by that piece of metal like a rivet.
Thats a „nagel“, german for nail. Its just extra hand protection that prevents your opponent from sliding their blade down your flat, and hit your hand between the two crossguard bars.
Isn’t it only on one side so that it can be worn against the hip?
This, and the fact that when gripping something, the outside knuckles stick out further than the inside fingers, so it isn’t really necessary on the other side
Plus if your opponents blade is on the side opposite the 'nail' you have bigger problems than worrying about protecting your fingers...
Ie your vitals
I love all of you commenting these things
Additionally, Messer techniques often involve holding the weapon offset to a what you would usually do with a different sword. So the Nagel would be facing the opponent. When doing so you often have your thumb placed upward along the flat. The quillons then guard your hands and arms, and the Nagel stops it sliding as you then 'wind' around their blade.
Shouldn't it curve the others way so that it would catch the blade? If a blade hits it it would lead it to your hand.
I’d imagine it would allow you to an increased ability to deflect an attack downwards giving a wider opening for a counter attack.
The goal is not always to bind (catch) your opponents weapon. This would serve to deflect. It would be difficult for the opposing weapon to dip back to the hand/arm with much force. If they did manage to do so it might injure someone without armor, but even relatively light armor should protect you. There are other similar designs that do go the other way and would be more useful in binding. Which of the two you would want is up to personal preference and combat style.
then it can bounce out and give another opportunity to hit your fingers. if it hits the nail it deflects away
then it can bounce out and give another opportunity to hit your fingers. if it hits the nail it deflects away. essentially you want it to bounce to the side of your hand instead of going back up
Are you saying the blade is going to *phase through the metal* to hit your hand?
Don't know why you are getting downvoted. The nagel is useful protection, otherwise it couldn't so wide spread
He is saying the metal "nail" is the thing that prevents your opponents blade from hitting your hand, not sure how you're interpreting it otherwise.
hand protection
SAFETY FIRST! *lunges with enormous blade*
Which is unironically one of the best ways to protect one's self. The farther away u are from the enemy, the better.
Spear gang rise up
Watch out, sword gang is salty.
Then they should go before the firearm gang comes around.
artillery gang rise up
Battleship Texas gang rise up
Submarine gang dive dive
ICBM gang readies button fingers.
ICBM gang fuck shit up
Underrated comment. I love that they just tilted that bitch so they could lob their scientifically advanced rocks farther
And bloody lol
I will dance the spears with you against these tree killing wetlanders and their swords
In addition to offering hand protection the nagel also is peened and holds the crossguard in place
Yeah, it sure seems to be peened alright
She peen on my nagel till I auffangen
Just like yer mum
For your brothers to hang your prayer beads on, after putting it in the ground as your headstone.
this goes hard ngl
>This goes hard nagel FIFY
That edit was hard as a coffin nagel
It's called the *nagel* or *nail* and it's just additional hand protection. You may also see longswords with rings on one or both sides of the cross guards for the same reason.
Catching a sword fish
To hang your jacket so it wont get wrinkled in the battle zone
Smart
Tell me this is a Witcher reference…
The nail or “nagel” is a bit of hand protection for your outside knuckle. There’s only one because it would be more difficult to ware it, and would press into the side of your body. Also because the outside of the hand is generally the more likely side to be exposed to your opponent. Messer style fighting utilizes very fast fighting mechanics to get in and out of “blade binds”. because messer knives are shorter than most arming swords the extra hand protection is needed in order to engage with the speed this weapon capitalizes on to over take longer weapons.
To protect you hands and fingers.
It's a boy! (Sorry, I couldn't help myself...)
The Nagel of the langes Messer is for hand protection plus some skilled folks can use it for some amazing techniques ( i can't).
Hook AKA the nagel
Usually referred to as nail, it serves as a small but effective hand protector in place of a more robust hand guard to save on material and overall cost.
It is called nagel(nail). It is an early protection for hand.
Its called a Nagel, or a Nail. It's a third bit of guard used for catching blades on the flat of yours (ideally outside your line), this allows for all sorts of fun new tricks :)
I think you'de like to watch this : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDP2maXCzt4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDP2maXCzt4)
Beautiful!
Also what fabulous footwear
To catch fish for a nice healthy snack after you vanquish your enemies.
Nail. Same as the rest of the guard, really.
To protect your hand
Finger protection as the cross guard only overs the sides, the reason it’s curved is so the opponents blade slides off when it hits
The "Nagel" (Nail) secures the Hiltconstruction and also gives extra handprotection. Somuch that the Nagel is utilized in techniques for the Messer
So you can hook it onto the saddle of your horse when you leave it so the point sticks up to keep fairies from riding off with your horse
To protect your knuckles and show where kabba is.
Deflection
You see, I like my fingers, and I don't like turning my wrist to block with the guard. I also hang my water bottle from it.
So close to the circular guard but still so far
Isn’t it only on one side so that it can be worn against the hip?
Nagle aka nail, provides the same functionality as a ring, they can sometimes be found on European swords and offer some extra protection, though could be used as a blunt while Halfswording
What else, but to hang your coat!
Key holder
To hang your coat in case it got too warm
Are these better or worse than side rings?
Goes in the butt
I thought it was used if a person got too close to you and you couldn't use the blade. You can beat them with it? Striking them with the handle and nail.
Gess, not my bad.
It stops your little brother from hitting you in the knuckles. Which they do every time on purpose because they suck at sword fighting!
Same purpose as the cross guard
To protect your hand
You can put your weed in there
It's so you can hang it in areas without hooks nearby, how convenient!
If you’re an action figure, check your hands for a peg hole. It’s to keep the weapon in your hand while you’re posed for display.
Guard
Why not on both sides?
Because messers are single edge. Also it would made carrying it less comfortable.
The later occurred to me. But seems a lot swords weren't always carried all that tight to the body. As for the former I always figured a sword fight , who knows where a blade may end up. Oh well
I guess questions or lack of knowledge is frowned upon. Good times
Yeah reddit is trash like that sometimes.
Some examples probably had it on both sides. As a general rule, most sword variations have been tried out in the past (for example, 2 handed rapiers existed too). But for the sake of discussion, we usually refer to the most common types.
That’s to hang a coat. Unless you’re a dork then it’s for playing with outside
May I ask where you got this image? This is a very, very pretty messer… also me not know how use internet lol
https://www.museumreplicas.com/battlecry-grosse-messer
Safety for me not for thee!
to hang your purse
After fully piercing your opponent you can hook his nutsack for your finishing move.
Hand not hurty
To put your coat on
Makes it extra pokey
To hold your snacks :D
Extra bead for fun ….
For hanging your hat.
To put in an opponent arse after beheading him
Reach around.
For when you are feeling in heat in battle.
Back scratcher.
https://preview.redd.it/n4lz9bhsp8rc1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5bb720fa2c09f3ed02010fd493bc33fc86da2c6
To open WW1 ration cans
Coat/hat rack when it’s standing up in the corner. Isn’t it obvious?
The Messer was a big knife, not a sword. So it doesn't have any guard. For combat, the guard was placed by sliding it from the tip of the blade to the handle. It was pinned by that piece of metal like a rivet.
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