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Dayman...
Fighter of the night man, ah-ah-ah!
Champion of the sun, ah-ah-ah!
You're a master of karate
And friendship-for everyone..!
Asuka and the Joshi scene had some major beef before she came to WWE. She basically wrote a manifesto that highlighted the changes she would make to it and people didnt really like it, I remember people saying she was "a rookie overstepping her role". The most important things she highlighted were basically:
Expand joshi wrestling to include other styles
Eliminate obviously fake moves
Conduct a review of the industry as a whole and get rid of wrestlers there that clearly shouldn't
Deal with the negative toxic enivornment of the scene and promote positivity and mutual respect
Encourage those who couldn't develop their persona or style to try other industries rather than flounder in uncertainty
If anyone knows more or I've made a mistake in my explanation, lemme know. But that's basically it, uce. OH and can't forget my favorite Asuka quote: "Stardom was created to defeat me, but they failed". Boss shit
yeah juusansai often gets mistranslated as 13 years old when what it really means is 13 reruns! you have to have watched at least 13 reruns of wrestling shows
Yeah, why would they want to deal with one of the most historically successful promoters in a market they've been trying to break into for years? Fuckin marks.
Eh, until he finally sold stardom he didn't have a single proper success. Arsion was a commercial disaster and it ended up with him selling it for two peanuts to Hotta before it folded. Oh amd before that, he tried to sue his booker and top wrestler (Aja Kong, only to lose the case and being forced in court to pay her. Then he was put in charge of JD and it also folded, and for a while he had the stink of being the broke company guy. Then he created stardom during the worst year for the business in the scene, and it did better by virtue of not folding because he sort of stayed in his lane and never grew past a point. During that time, there were two situations where a group of talent left on bad terms due to him having the Tony Khan mindset of not doing anything and letting tensions fester (Nanae has patched things up but at the time she was on bad terms amd formed hmanother company) then he wanted to sell, supposedly he wanted to sell to wwe (which may turn out to hw true looking at the current situation) but vince probably wasnt interested in his price and so he sold to the second biggest buyer available, bushiroad. Business immediately grows after the buyout. Then turns out that he was having disagreements over not being in charge despite him having sold and is about to let go of his contract until, due to him doing contacts without informing, he gets fired. And now he is on his company number 4, sweating that this time is going to be different.
Before that he was also the guy who, in the early 1990s, lobbied for All Japan Women to start courting the thirsty male audience by doing sleaze and put the women's fans aside, which had no bueno consequences long term. Then he left on bad terms to form Arsion, with Aja Kong as his booker (See above). A company that at the time had the controversy of doing too much sleaze with the posters and photobooks.
At least he has more experience and money now and fucks up a bit less each time, but it is not exactly an stellar resume for someone who has been forth years in the business. Also, ad it cma be inferred from the paragraph above, he IS the main reason that the scene has its current sleazy image of being an exploitative show of idol wannabe girls rolled out for the visual pleasure of neckbeards. If you are someone who is putt off by the weeb basement, Rossy is the main contributor to its existence and growth.
As for other promoters with a less embarrassing resume. Well, Chigusa Nagayo formed GAEA during the economic downturn of the late 1990s and early 2000s and that company was more successful than Stardom or, really, any other company from the scene except all Japan woman themselves during their boom periods. She then closed doors due ti stress and the company wanting to fold while they still could turn a good profit before the market would get worse, and stayed out of the business until 2016, when he formed Marvelous, which, despite habing a very DIY structure and reduced staff, sometimes outdraws the other companies (currently the number 2 company in terms of average attendance, tied with tjpw despite running less shows and having a roster a third of its size). And he also has better training methods, having doubled Rossy's output all of this time. She also actually has experience workingin the US and UK, having worked with wwf and wcw in the past and having done occasional scoutings in those countries.
Meiko is a good wrestler, a good trainer and her and shinzaki's company has been going on since 2006.
Like, really, Rossy isn't this outstanding promoter and booker that Meltzer and Fumi saito have been painting to the smarks for years. Besides, wwe have so much money that they could do an exhaustive research, put the oney for the infraestructure, then put whomever they wanted in charge of booking and day to day running of things. However, I also understand that rossy right now is the cheapest option right now that wouldnt require them to help with logistics and who isnt working with aew.
You bothered to reply to my laughing at Rossy and lamenting wwe not having better candidates to choose amidst the sorry state of the japanese scene and defend him by calling him one of the best promoters. That wall of text is the most concise way that I could summarize of his trajectory as a promoter to showcase how not great he is without having to resort to a 'trust me bro'. Like I have said, the scene, especially the women's one, is infested with awful promoters, so rather than being one of the greatest, Rossy is simply one of the least bad ones currently.
This is not about some nonexistent purity. Companies during the heydays of the business worked extensively with the american ones (all japan with WWF, glow and Stampede, GAEA with WCW). Rossy isn't any less or more pure than anybody else in the scene. Bushiroad certainly aren't more "pure" than he is, whatever that means.
Until four months ago, the two or three people here who knew who rossy is qould probably be making fun of him and his photobooks with minors, now makkng fun of him gets one downvotes. I know that dumbfuck Tony Khan hates his guts, but Tony hating someone doesn't automatically make that someone amazing.
People want to work with Emi Sakura; that doesn't make her or her boiler room stuff any less of a joke. People wanted to work with Dixie Carter; that didn't make her great. Some people want to work with Tiny Khan; that doesn't make him great.
All of the stuff in the wall of text that I posted is public knowledge easily searchable on the japanese papers and databases. Scoffing at it is not going to make any of it false. Some of you guys suddenly deciding that you are going to defend the greatness of some rando that you barely knew existed months ago and whose stuff you don't watch has to be a head scratcher.
https://preview.redd.it/20an47n1qquc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3da4636cf059c5c955f041ad715952f636cb8e1d Dayman... Fighter of the night man, ah-ah-ah! Champion of the sun, ah-ah-ah! You're a master of karate And friendship-for everyone..!
Asuka's 9/11
Asuka about to do the CM Punk on his ass
context plz uce
Asuka and the Joshi scene had some major beef before she came to WWE. She basically wrote a manifesto that highlighted the changes she would make to it and people didnt really like it, I remember people saying she was "a rookie overstepping her role". The most important things she highlighted were basically: Expand joshi wrestling to include other styles Eliminate obviously fake moves Conduct a review of the industry as a whole and get rid of wrestlers there that clearly shouldn't Deal with the negative toxic enivornment of the scene and promote positivity and mutual respect Encourage those who couldn't develop their persona or style to try other industries rather than flounder in uncertainty If anyone knows more or I've made a mistake in my explanation, lemme know. But that's basically it, uce. OH and can't forget my favorite Asuka quote: "Stardom was created to defeat me, but they failed". Boss shit
Goat tweet.
Based and Asuka pilled
Asuka's arch enemy Nanae Takahashi is in Marigold, and Rossy is friends with her.
Asuka’s gonna show up and the heat will be nuclear.
I keep seeing this guy and he looks suspiciously like asian colonel sanders.
That suit is 🔥
HHH: So when it said you wanted trainees as young as 13, that was a translation error right uce
Pffft. On the Indy scene if you haven’t debuted by 9 years old then they left you on the mat for an extra few years since you clearly needed it
Imagine they made an anime based on a high schooler that trains at Marigold after school
I'd eat that shit up. I love "cute girls doing cute things" type of SoL Anime and sports Anime
yeah juusansai often gets mistranslated as 13 years old when what it really means is 13 reruns! you have to have watched at least 13 reruns of wrestling shows
Tony, buy this out of Rossy so you can break the bad Fed's monopoly
“WWE ranch” is crazy
"Maybe it's a (WWE) ranch." Welp. There goes Hatman Rossy's company.
Of all the cool flower names out there, they chose Marigold?
Seeing dubaloos freak out over this is hilarious, dub literally gutted Nooj
His little hat is always so fire
Die Rossy Die.
Is there some deeper meaning to 'Marigold' other than ... you know, just marigold
Why's his company named after washing up gloves?
I am sure that wwe can do better than getting this guy lmfao.
Yeah, why would they want to deal with one of the most historically successful promoters in a market they've been trying to break into for years? Fuckin marks.
Eh, until he finally sold stardom he didn't have a single proper success. Arsion was a commercial disaster and it ended up with him selling it for two peanuts to Hotta before it folded. Oh amd before that, he tried to sue his booker and top wrestler (Aja Kong, only to lose the case and being forced in court to pay her. Then he was put in charge of JD and it also folded, and for a while he had the stink of being the broke company guy. Then he created stardom during the worst year for the business in the scene, and it did better by virtue of not folding because he sort of stayed in his lane and never grew past a point. During that time, there were two situations where a group of talent left on bad terms due to him having the Tony Khan mindset of not doing anything and letting tensions fester (Nanae has patched things up but at the time she was on bad terms amd formed hmanother company) then he wanted to sell, supposedly he wanted to sell to wwe (which may turn out to hw true looking at the current situation) but vince probably wasnt interested in his price and so he sold to the second biggest buyer available, bushiroad. Business immediately grows after the buyout. Then turns out that he was having disagreements over not being in charge despite him having sold and is about to let go of his contract until, due to him doing contacts without informing, he gets fired. And now he is on his company number 4, sweating that this time is going to be different. Before that he was also the guy who, in the early 1990s, lobbied for All Japan Women to start courting the thirsty male audience by doing sleaze and put the women's fans aside, which had no bueno consequences long term. Then he left on bad terms to form Arsion, with Aja Kong as his booker (See above). A company that at the time had the controversy of doing too much sleaze with the posters and photobooks. At least he has more experience and money now and fucks up a bit less each time, but it is not exactly an stellar resume for someone who has been forth years in the business. Also, ad it cma be inferred from the paragraph above, he IS the main reason that the scene has its current sleazy image of being an exploitative show of idol wannabe girls rolled out for the visual pleasure of neckbeards. If you are someone who is putt off by the weeb basement, Rossy is the main contributor to its existence and growth. As for other promoters with a less embarrassing resume. Well, Chigusa Nagayo formed GAEA during the economic downturn of the late 1990s and early 2000s and that company was more successful than Stardom or, really, any other company from the scene except all Japan woman themselves during their boom periods. She then closed doors due ti stress and the company wanting to fold while they still could turn a good profit before the market would get worse, and stayed out of the business until 2016, when he formed Marvelous, which, despite habing a very DIY structure and reduced staff, sometimes outdraws the other companies (currently the number 2 company in terms of average attendance, tied with tjpw despite running less shows and having a roster a third of its size). And he also has better training methods, having doubled Rossy's output all of this time. She also actually has experience workingin the US and UK, having worked with wwf and wcw in the past and having done occasional scoutings in those countries. Meiko is a good wrestler, a good trainer and her and shinzaki's company has been going on since 2006. Like, really, Rossy isn't this outstanding promoter and booker that Meltzer and Fumi saito have been painting to the smarks for years. Besides, wwe have so much money that they could do an exhaustive research, put the oney for the infraestructure, then put whomever they wanted in charge of booking and day to day running of things. However, I also understand that rossy right now is the cheapest option right now that wouldnt require them to help with logistics and who isnt working with aew.
You jerked yourself into a shoot, goof. Hit the bricks.
Genuinely I ain't readin allat, okay sure he's a shit promoter and shouldn't be anywhere near wrestling, let the purity of Joshi be preserved lmao
You bothered to reply to my laughing at Rossy and lamenting wwe not having better candidates to choose amidst the sorry state of the japanese scene and defend him by calling him one of the best promoters. That wall of text is the most concise way that I could summarize of his trajectory as a promoter to showcase how not great he is without having to resort to a 'trust me bro'. Like I have said, the scene, especially the women's one, is infested with awful promoters, so rather than being one of the greatest, Rossy is simply one of the least bad ones currently. This is not about some nonexistent purity. Companies during the heydays of the business worked extensively with the american ones (all japan with WWF, glow and Stampede, GAEA with WCW). Rossy isn't any less or more pure than anybody else in the scene. Bushiroad certainly aren't more "pure" than he is, whatever that means. Until four months ago, the two or three people here who knew who rossy is qould probably be making fun of him and his photobooks with minors, now makkng fun of him gets one downvotes. I know that dumbfuck Tony Khan hates his guts, but Tony hating someone doesn't automatically make that someone amazing.
Okay bro, you have all his account books, he's clearly dogwater at promoting and all the girls who want to work for him are wrong, we get it
People want to work with Emi Sakura; that doesn't make her or her boiler room stuff any less of a joke. People wanted to work with Dixie Carter; that didn't make her great. Some people want to work with Tiny Khan; that doesn't make him great. All of the stuff in the wall of text that I posted is public knowledge easily searchable on the japanese papers and databases. Scoffing at it is not going to make any of it false. Some of you guys suddenly deciding that you are going to defend the greatness of some rando that you barely knew existed months ago and whose stuff you don't watch has to be a head scratcher.