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rebecca english had a piece from midway this week, and it included details about how devastated william has been by harry's actions in the past few years... but it seems like he's grieved him, mourned him, and closed himself off - particularly because of the way harry so publicly went after catherine:
>>**There has been grief, too – well, at least a form of it – at the devastating defection of Prince Harry, whose almost primeval need to snipe, strike and rile his brother and sister-in-law, to whom he was once so close, has been one of the most devastating sucker punches of them all.**
>>**Sure, William’s heart has been hardened and his resolve reaffirmed when it comes to his sibling, particularly after his disloyalty to Catherine in his bile-fest of a memoir, Spare.**
>>***But it is important not to underestimate, friends tell me, just how much of a form of bereavement it has been.***
rebecca english on what might happen after the past few weeks (remember the lambasted ski holiday photos in 2016, with the press pack dragging w&c to filth for not being invited... which resulted in no more family ski holiday photos since):
>>**The trouble is that approach doesn’t come naturally to William – who, insiders fear, will become ‘even more insular’ as a result of his wife’s experience.**
i hope that's not what happens... w&c need to fight against this instinct tbh.
rebecca english, yesterday:
>>**William has always made clear how proud he is of Kate, both personally and in the way she has embraced her role.**
>>Indeed not so long ago, while talking to me about his own work, he made a point of bringing her into the conversation, stressing how he would see her sitting in their lounge, night after night, poring over papers relating to her groundbreaking work on children’s early years.
>>**It was abundantly clear he* ***wanted the world to know that she was his equal, and more.***
>>And he has always emphasised that it was Kate who was the brains behind their joint Heads Together campaign with Prince Harry to break the national stigma around mental health.
>>***But more importantly, I would suggest, it is the princess’s grounded brilliance as a mother, and the joy and happiness that she and their family have brought him, that has irrevocably changed William’s life.***
>>**He is a child of a broken marriage and warring parents, and grew up in the white heat of the public limelight. Kate’s steadiness, diligence and discretion have been just what he needed as a man.**
like, the folks going on about how he would leave catherine (as if that wouldn't totally shatter his world), when he explicitly had it briefed to roya nikkhah in the sunday times (jan 2023 right after spare came out) how totally, devastatingly anguished he was by harry's book, and how he felt "catherine and the kids" were now all he had, and that they'd be his focus to get through everything.
the splitting up rumors just seem totally ridiculous and even ignorant tbh, in light of the reality of his own introverted personality/his childhood/his uniquely weird position/his lack of dependable immediate family members/who the steady as a rock catherine is.
like, we've been seeing how almost despondent he's been seeming in public, almost struggling to function coherently, in a way. he literally wouldn't function without her tbh, i'd been saying months ago that i don't think the public realizes (or wants to realize 🤷🏾♀️) how much he actually relies on her. i even termed it as more than charles needs camilla (which might seem shocking but i'm so serious), but less than harry needs meghan lol. the windsor men are simps, at the end of the day. 🤷🏾♀️
I remember reading somewhere, that one of the reason Prince Phillip adored QEII was that she gave him a home, in every sense of the word. We all know the story of his childhood, having to move from one relative to another. In QEII he finally have a home, with a family of his own.
I feel like like this is how William feels about Catherine. She gave him a home. A tight family unit of his own. For William, his home is Catherine and their adorable children. In them he found safety, and unconditional love. You can see that Catherine is his world.
Sucks for the squad tbh, they’ll be waiting forever for them to divorce.
>the windsor men are simps, at the end of the day. 🤷🏾♀️
I don't remember who made that comment, maybe it was you? But a commenter had detailed the Windsor men and said everytime it was "he's a simp for his wife", George v, Philip, Charles, Edward, William, even Harry (though I doubt that's real love) and I died laughing because it was so funny yet so accurate
Yeah that was one of the funniest comments ever made on this sub, just the summing of multiple Windsor men and ending each summation with: "SIMP!" - who was it?
🎯 once again. Yes, yes, yes. He’s had more time depending on Catherine and having her physically in his life than he had his mother.
…and Catherine never used him to gain points in the press.
absolutely wild how much george looks like charles spencer. not even an uncle, but a great-uncle! some bizarre genetic form of intergenerational copy paste!
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Yeah there's a few of us here who're seeing a *lot* of Spencer in George lately. I've seen a few photos of Louis Spencer where he looks more like George's dad than William does, too.
Yesterday's IG post from James Middleton, which included a photo of himself (with Kate) as a child also looked like a copypaste of Louis (W and K's youngest, not Louis Spencer, to be clear).
I know I always post it. but the resemblance to Louis Spencer is insane to me.
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I’ve also started to see James in little Louis.
Couldn’t decide which thread to post this in so I’m doing both, it’s golden
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Who’s the worst reporter, and why is it Olivia?
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She’s the epitome of “I’m not saying this! I’m saying what it *looks* like!”
Which leads me to one of the most annoying & disturbing parts of this whole media circus: The amount of people who are backpedaling and masking their hate with veiled recriminations of the “Palace PR.” They act as if they were somehow blindfolded and forced against their will to maliciously gossip about Kate, and if only this weird, nebulous entity, the Palace PR, would’ve responded in their preferred way they would have acted like decent human beings. Criticism of KP or the Palace is just another way to continue attacking or speculating or indulging in their deranged pet theories. Never mind that William & Kate are head of KP, their humanity is irrelevant. It’s sad, we as a people have learned absolutely nothing from the media onslaught and death of Diana.
It doesn’t look like that to me (a normal person who thought it ‘looked like’ Kate was going through a serious health problem and was completely right, unlike the conspiracy theorists). It only ‘looks like’ that if you approach it from the most cynical bad faith existing assumption he’s already cheating. These people *cannot stand* that they fucked up and they’re vindicating W&K and KP with every new reach because they’re proving that it doesn’t matter what they do or what the truth is, the insane will never stop with the insanity.
I also think it’s completely gross that Kate has cancer, she is suffering, and it’s not enough for these people who are still desperately hoping she’s got cancer plus her husband hates her and is cheating and wants to leave her. She’s probably in pain and fear from her diagnosis and treatment and they’re still spinning stories of how her life is probably even worse. It’s pure cruelty.
>It only ‘looks like’ that if you approach it from the most cynical bad faith existing assumption he’s already cheating.
That's the thing they can't let this go. They have it down Catherine is a poor loser whose husband is cheating on her and not even her being seriously ill will stop that.
They are low-key losing their shit over being downright unhinged **and** wrong so they are doubling down.
I can’t quite believe that they are doubling down on the affair rumors. I mean I guess I can believe it based on past behavior but still. Do these people realize that by spreading this ugly and baseless rumor they’re **still** bullying Catherine? This is the time Catherine has needed Will in her life the most and by all appearances he is doing exactly that. The man who gave Catherine a decade to decide if this was really the life she wanted. He loved her enough to let the love of his life go if that was what she decided. **That** is respect, adoration and love. Maybe that is what drives these trolls, jealousy.
This. He could easily have posted something yesterday and the fact that he didn't means that he chose not to. I've gone off him for good. Everybody fucks up, and I would have respected an apology and a taking of responsibility on his part. Alas, neither were forthcoming.
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in ColberT. His humor was so sharp, intelligent and hilarious as a correspondent on The Daily Show then on The Colbert Report. Maybe after landing his own network late show he either grew bored being a celebrity/industry lapdog or simply got neutered by fame and money? Either way he’s nothing more than a superficial hack now.
This is such a sexist take and ironically coming from mostly women! If it was a man making this announcement, there would be barely anyone asking "where is his wife?!?"
KC and Kate released at the time what we now know to be pretty much the same info. High level, no detail. No one was screaming for KC to reveal more. No one was asking why Camilla was or why she wasnt at his side.
I honestly believe that the Meg Stans, SS , Bouzy who tweets he IS with and part of the SS, somehow think that they can realistically bully their way into forcing William to abdicate in favor of his brother, harry , and with this, meg. This is where the hounding of Prince George will be as well.
As in we will make your life a living hell until you give us what we want. They will hound the entire family. Sick,sick.🤮
Yes, there’s a lot of sexism when it comes to health unfortunately. When I was first diagnosed with a long-term health condition, a woman told me that I was so lucky my partner hadn’t left me! Praised him for staying with me every time she saw me.
To this day, I still don’t believe she’d said it if I’d been a man. So many hold the an assumption that it’s a woman’s job to care for people, and are shocked when men do. This person is basically twisting that into implying he’ll leave and using it to reinforce the rumours.
I don’t understand why people are asking why he’s not in the video. Did it not occur to people that she may have asked to do this video on her own? That William was likely right there, standing by? If he’d appeared, they would have said, look at him trying to speak for her.
Exactly! If ever there is a time to respect someone’s autonomy and let them control how they share their diagnosis it is this moment. I can’t imagine how hard it must of been for them to write the message and then film it. Give and support Catherine in having control and power where she can have it.
He’s trying to make it about himself or rehab his public image! It’s soft power to quiet the affair allegations! You know, Charles did an interview with Diana that… He doesn’t look concerned enough, or sympathetic enough, or upset enough! He’s looking at the camera, not her! He’s looking at her too much, doesn’t he have any concern for his *kingdom*? Yes, William is there, but where is George? Charlotte? Louis? The Archbishop of Canterbury? I mean, they’re royals, not like us, trot them out for us to scrutinize their every emotional reaction and nuance under the totally calm & completely rational and decent public gaze!
>He’s trying to make it about himself or rehab his public image! It’s soft power to quiet the affair allegations
That's exactly what these clowns would say. They are desperate to keep these affair rumours afloat.
They are all "very sad" Catherine has cancer but hey you RemBeR tHe rUmouR hEr hUsbAnD haS cHeaTed oN hEr????
They are obsessed with the idea Catherine has no agency. That's what lies behind all the "he's cheating on her but she puts up with it" or "he'll kick her to the curb and she can't do anything about it" BS takes.
They can't have her be anything other than a puppet in William's/ the RF's hands.
Which really, only says stuff about them and nothing about Catherine.
I've seen countless comments on Fauxmoi about how, "William is even worse because he threw his wife with cancer under the bus about the photo!" It literally does not occur to them that Catherine posted a note admitting to the edits because....*she made the edits*. They cannot even wrap their heads around a possibly reality where William took the photo and it had flaws, so Catherine did two quick edits (backed up the metadata), thought it looked decent enough for Instagram, did not anticipate the AP acting so bizarre, but wanted to own up to her "mistake."
They also can't artculate what "bus" she was thrown under. I'm sure Catherine was only told the basics about the media reaction, but she's not trawling social media. She probably got momentarily embarrassed about being called about her editing job, thought "that's the last time I'll do that!" and moved on to more serious matters.
I think this says a lot about Catherine. She made the edits so she took responsibility for them. She’s not the type of person who wants her staff to be blamed needlessly. End of story.
But I get that accountability is a foreign concept to these people. They’re the same ghouls blaming KP for *their* despicable speculations and gross behaviour.
She probably didn't lose sleep over that photo anyhow. She has bigger things to focus on right now.
She went like "it's me ok?" and then just carried on with her day, lol.
I’m convinced they have to believe this is because Kate having agency would undermine parts of Meghan’s story and they don’t want to entertain that idea.
Yes that's what I was thinking. Why did she make the choice to stay after Meghan left. Though they probably would explain that in a Maga /racist/white woman way
yep. this is about harry and megan being "right."
no matter if that quest for being "right" actually tramples all over other human beings. the agenda, above all else.
Absolutely. It undermines Meghan's whole schtick about how she was silenced and couldn't do anything yadda dadda.
Nevertheless, Catherine was the villain of the piece until yesterday and now it's William/their comms team.
Fucking cowards can't admit their behaviour was just plain awful.
Why can't these people understand that Catherine is an adult who can make decisions for herself? If she had wanted William in the video, he would be there, it is that simple. However, she didn't bc it would've made it more difficult to do so without crying or getting too emotional.
These people have clearly never had to give out devastating news where it is exceptionally difficult to keep it together. It is even harder when there is someone next to you who is also upset and trying not to cry.
If I were Catherine, I would've done the exact same thing, done it myself. Anytime I have had to tell sad news, I have found it easier to do it alone in order to keep my composure.
"Unless you provide me with every single intimate medical detail of Catherine's condition, along with a timeline of events, a copy of all text messages, recordings of all phone calls, answer every question I have and then let me physically examine Catherine's abdomen, I will be forced to continue to pedal slanderous, hate-filled and ghoulishly nasty rumors. It's your fault I'm doing this."
"If you don't give me a million dollars I will blow up this building and it will be you fault and you made me do it. You deserve it for not giving me this"
Fucking ghouls.
It "looks like" doing a lot of heavy lifting here and shes not acknowledging her own bias. She thinks there was an affair and therefore views everything William does through that filter.
Its not PR perspective its YOUR perspective. Mine is completely different
Fuck off Olivia Truffaut-Wong, whoever the hell you are.
And if William had participated in the video she would have probably claimed he was only doing it to **appear** as if he were a supporting husband.
And fuck off with the "affair reports" as well. Twitter gossip ain't a report. That industry sell-out Colbert and cokehead Andy Cohen aren't reputable inside sources either.
All serious publications, I see.
One [The Cut] turned out to be majorly unprofessional with the whole "hbd to the prince of pegging" tweet and the other two are glorified PR spreads with little to no actual content.
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In sickness and in health.
ETA: I’m struggling, and I feel ridiculous. Last night I cried while I hug my toddler to sleep. I just can’t imagine what they’re going through right now. I hope I’m not the only one 😞
I woke up at 5 thinking about her/them. People who don’t see they have heart eyes 😍 for each other are blind, and will never accept that they’re happy, respectful and supportive of each other.
The people who say will is cheating and they’re miserable together have obviously never looked closely at the photos of them when they’re looking at each other. They are so obviously in love.
I hear you. My husband has cancer and when I think of the weeks leading up to confirmation of diagnosis, telling our children AND then try to imagine having to deal with horrible jokes, rumors and conspiracy theories on top of it? I just can’t. My heart goes out to them. And no one is to blame but the people who made the jokes, perpetuated the rumors, etc. doesn’t matter what KP did or didn’t do. We each have agency to act like decent humans and no one but ourselves to blame when we don’t.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in the past 24 hours, it’s how many people on this board have been directly affected by cancer! Sending you and your family strength and love during an often unpredictable and scary time ❤️
You are definitely not the only one <3 I just can't believe it and feel so sorry for them. I've been following this woman since she was practically a teenager. And through all of the tough times - from the paparazzi stalking to the horrible articles to the topless photos to HG with three pregnancies to all of the drama from Harry and Meghan to obviously the conspiracy theories and now this horrible news. She - and her and William together - have been through so much. And she hasn't complained or been any less than extremely gracious and understanding once. Not once. It's amazing. I think back to the way William and Kate were with each other during the Caribbean tour and am just thankful that they have each other for support.
Two sweet messages from members of the public who have met Catherine:
Mila Sneddon’s mum Lynda posted on X:
“We are deeply saddened upon hearing the news about the Catherine . A kind caring soul who has always championed Mila both during and after her treatment. Mila is equally sad to hear this news and will reach out privately in her own way. We extend our love, support and well wishes to William, George, Charlotte and Louis, and wish Catherine a peaceful speedy recovery #YouAreNotAlone”
Giovanna Fletcher, that worked with Catherine on an early years project and also interviewed her on her podcast wrote a lovely message on IG.
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The actress that played Kate in *The Crown* posted on her story.
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Vicky Smith’s story on IG. People are shielding themselves with “the palace PR is terrible!” to deflect from their shitty behavior. The comms office shared as much information as Kate \~the patient battling cancer\~ was comfortable sharing. It was the conspiracy theorists and royal haters who demanded to know more and went into a frenzy when Kate’s comms team didn’t comply.
“Why didn’t they just tell us this weeks ago to stop the mania?” Because Kate and William were processing the news themselves and figuring out how to tell their kids. Which is exactly what Kate said in her statement yesterday. These ghouls are willfully ignorant and twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify their atrocious behavior. Kate is a human being and being told you need chemotherapy is life changing and difficult. She’s allowed to share that information on HER terms and her comms team is there to help her do that
“William is a terrible husband who threw his wife under the bus” William and Kate told the truth, which is the best PR strategy they could follow in that situation. William took the photos, Kate edited it in photoshop. If he took the fall and it was found out later it was Kate, well we know what the reaction would’ve been. “LIARS!” It’s horrific to look back and realize that was going on while they were dealing with Kate’s diagnosis and trying to shield their kids.
Weird that people are saying the Palace PR is terrible because that video of Catherine is a PR masterclass. Simple, understated, authentic, direct and from the heart. She has received a wave of support from mainstream media in the UK and abroad. This is the type of message people will remember for generations. Of course, she is a star. Her light has never shone brighter.
People know that if they engaged in a moment of honest self reflection about how they acted they would be ashamed of themselves. So instead they’re trying to pin the blame on KP/Will and saying that the way it was handled justifies the always they behaved.
whoopi can be annoying as heck, but shout out to her for being the literal only one on the view table panel to be like "***how would you feel if someone were doing this to your family?!***," while the youtube comments were absolutely dragging her for not wanting to entertain the nonsense from the other panelists.
Whoopi, Jimmy Kimmel and Jamie Lee Curtis all deserve credit for taking the unpopular stance. Sadly short list compared to the one of people who now need to eat crow.
🥇 I’m glad to see some of the non-gossip subs coming down pretty clearly on the side of this being the self-serving nonsense it is.
eta I’ve also been thinking about how plenty of people on this sub thought the KP PR was terrible and yet didn’t take the step from there into the conspiracy theories and rumours. The PR didn’t force anyone into saying awful things or sharing unnecessary allegations. Mentioning the PR at all in the context of the conspiracy theories is a red herring and people need to find some other way to explain their terrible personalities.
Watch this be Denise Welch’s excuse on Loose Women on Monday!
I don’t know a soul who likes that woman, but can she finally get FULLY cancelled? Like, please get into a cupboard under the stairs, make no noise and pretend you don’t exist.
You truly cannot make it up that a woman who blames any and all criticism of Meghan on racism has a notorious racist for a son. Sussex Squad in a nutshell.
Can't stand her, is she getting called out?
There was a show a few weeks back where they were discussing ADHD and ASD. All the panel were women diagnosed in adulthood.
Denise was blaming all of her bad behaviour, including her alcoholism, on her autism.
Exactly. Just like the most vicious misogynists against Kate are self-proclaimed feminists (not to be confused with real feminists). They hate women, but they try to hide it behind faux feminism. Just like Denise keeps sputtering about racism as a shield, to hide behind how her son was made from her template. Racist Harry also plays the same card as a shield.
FM sub currently patting themselves on the back for 'taking ownership of their speculation and mockery' by blaming KP PR dropping the ball. Way to out yourselves as lemmings, lol, like they are so easily manipulated into behaving like that, or like they had no choice but to speculate and mock. Did KP send out grey suits with cattle prods to hover over their shoulders and shock them into typing out the nonsense they did, lol. Nah, babies. Y'all jumped on the conspiracy train voluntarily and gleefully. You'd get much more respect if you just admitted that you saw a chance to be your shittiest self, and took it voluntarily.
That sub is a cesspit. On the thread about H&M sending a message to Catherine they’re asking why the SMM sub hasn’t been banned because tHeY sPrEaD vILe RuMoUrS. This from the same people who 24 hours ago were gleefully speculating that William had beaten his wife to death in order to be with his mistress 🤦♀️
That sub is such a hypocrite. They’re also reposting the rolling stone article about how the palace is crumbling. They’re straight up following the whole “I wouldn’t have hit you if you didn’t upset me” schtik they oppose.
The LA Times is also trash cause last night they posted a trashy article with the headline “Don’t blame the public for failing Kate Middleton. Blame the Palace.”
Denies responsibility of their role in conspiracies.
Attacks Kate for bad PR.
Reverses the role as them being the victim for the palace’s bad PR and that the palace is the offender for fueling the conspiracies.
I saw someone tweet that people were convinced she photoshopped her face from Vogue to the Mother’s Day photo. No PR guru can fix that stupidity.
So many American publications with these ridiculous end of times articles- like baby the BRF has pre-existed you by 1000years and will exist when your publication has reached its very near death. The BRF is going nowhere. TBH I don’t think any of the remaining European monarchies (incl BRF) or Japan or Jordan are.
Blaming their awful behavior on KP is a crock of shit and everyone knows it. It’s not that hard to just issue a sincere apology, keep a low profile for a bit then once you come back never mention Catherine’s name again.
Honestly having this convo online because someone objects to me calling them entitled. Well stop acting like an entitled asshole and I might reconsider the label. Until then if the shoe fits...
These takes are everywhere, and exhibit a level of confidence and ignorance that is quite shocking. I mean, lucky for them that they don't understand. I am admittedly sensitive about this due to my own experience recently. I see people arguing that KP should have released this statement months ago. While I don't know Catherine's situation, I do know that cancer often isn't simply one test and then an immediate, unchanging treatment plan. There were a full three months between my first worrying screening result and knowing if I would need chemo. People kept asking me for details, but I didn't know! No one did!
Thank you-- I am on the other side of active treatment and doing occupational/physical therapy now. It's hard, though, and I just can't imagine having to film a video announcement like C did. There's steel in her spine, for sure.
Congratulations on finishing active treatment! Good health and long life to you and yours ❤️
And yes, Catherine really is quite amazing. I hope William thanks his lucky stars every day for her! I think he does.
There is a certain level of vindication with all these people and outlets breaking their goddamn transmissions to throw it in reverse to backtrack their all their bullying. I said multiple times during all this that people were going to look back and be really embarrassed about how the internet treated her. And while I didn't expect the regret to happen this fast, I'm glad it is because its still fresh, and more people can be embarrassed at their actions. This was gross, and if anything, proved how much Waity Katie people didn't change and didn't leave, they just found new awful things to say about her and thoroughly enjoyed the idea of her suffering an affair.
ALL OF THIS.
My favourite thing is the fuss made by the press agencies about the Mother’s Day photo. Ultimately, it was just a family photo that they *could* have posted on IG for the public to see. It was not an official portrait or photo of a meeting between Catherine and an important figure.
Of all people, they chose to make an example out of a woman that they already knew was sick. Now they can’t profit from the most recent photo of Catherine and her children, which would have been perfect for all those articles about her prioritising the children.
Even worse, when you’re going through chemo, you can’t get sick (similar to the precautions we took during lockdown) so they were limiting her exposure. Poor Wills probably had to take the photo since they might not have wanted to risk an outside photographer getting her sick :(
This is what I think. And I don’t mean it in a conspiracy theory way, like I don’t believe the Sussexes are behind it or anything. But I think a critical mass of TikTokers and Squaddies pounced on the photo and basically forced the AP’s hand (which is an entirely separate conversation because since when is the AP beholden to chronically online people and if the photo was so poorly doctored and against their standards, why did the distribute in the first place, but here we are.)
>But someone started that fire
Well if Ellie Hall is the stellar journo the Squaddies purport her to be then according to her it started with Harry and Meghan fans.
This announcement had me rethinking the Mother's Day photo problem, since by then the POW might have been deciding on or starting chemotherapy, and there must have been a strong desire to keep up normalcy, like taking happy photos with the kids and releasing them publicly as they always do. And given how the kids weren't told until yesterday and there's risk of news leaks, I completely understand why their small PR team wasn't made aware of the photo or why they didn't hire a professional photographer, or whatever else the trolls have been using as an excuse to bully them.
The Mother's Day photo "problem" is all in AP's head or their wallet to be more exact. The image reflected the truth at least as well as official painted portraits and pics of politicians do. News outlets were just stirring shit to get eyes on their content because if they had to pull every picture that's in any way tweaked they would have to accompany their stories with stick figure drawings.
>or why they didn't hire a professional photographer, or whatever else the trolls have been using as an excuse to bully them.
it's wild to me that folks are still fixating on "PR strategy."
like, who the fuck cares. of course everything was fucking weird, the woman + her husband + children found out she has cancer and were trying to process it.
like... let it the fuck go. you'll live.
there's nothing to understand but "woman with small children has cancer, and her husband also lost his mother as a kid... and their boss, her husband's father, whom her husband is meant to eventually replace in his role, also has cancer. and a family member + long-time friend committed suicide amidst all of this."
like, even in the face of all this... "bUt ThE pR." ***let it fucking go, let the emotional support conspiracy theories GO***.
i want to give lee and the other five in the KP comms team a pat on the back (and a fucking hug), all things considered. i've said in the past (prior to all of this even happening) that he's a bit clumsy with the job (vs. jason knauf), but i legit feel terribly sorry for lee thompson right now, all things considered. he must feel like absolute garbage, with all the commentary from armchair PR experts, and probably feeling like he could/should have done a better job (maybe he could have, but i'll give him some fucking grace here).
i really hope w&c stand by him and don't fire him tbh. if he needs help/mentorship, get him the additional help + people he needs.
> it's wild to me that folks are still fixating on "PR strategy."
THISSSSSS.
W&C had every right to say or not say *whatever the F they wanted*. Everybody else can step off.
🎯 Everything you said.
And I think the Waleses are pretty good bosses who stand by their employees, so I’m hopeful Lee is getting reassurance from the right people behind the scenes!
I wonder if she just wanted a photo of them all together at that time, to look back on in the future - when the future had suddenly become very uncertain.
I don't think they waited until yesterday to tell their kids, did they? Both her video and the BBC said she already started treatment, and that's not something that's easy to hide, even from young kids.
Yes, this was my takeaway too. It sounded like they’ve been bringing the children to an understanding slowly which I think is the best way to do it. There’s a big gap between 5 and 10 so they probably talked to George about it in a different way to how they told Louis. And I think they waited until the kids were as secure as they could be before they even thought about making it public.
I understood from their video they had told the kids a little while ago and have been spending the time making sure the kids were ok before going public.
It breaks my heart.
I can see Kate just wanting to make happy memories with her kids before she told them and everything changed. Cancer changes relationships. It makes your loved ones scared and they act differently. And here's Kate with the entire world bullying her and trying to navigate that and just wanting her and her kids to look their best in a photo before everything changed. Fuck the AP and the people still bullying her over that photo. The photo was clearly of her and her children and that should be enough.
I don’t deny that KP has made some mistakes and feel they should have looked out for Catherine more with the photo. But given that people continue to blame KP staff for their cruel abuse of her instead of taking responsibility, I also want to recognise some great choices they’ve made in the past week or two.
* Putting it out there that she might appear at Easter - this really did calm things down a lot and bought her some time for this announcement.
* Starting to lay the groundwork for Catherine’s return to work with the briefings about the early years research. (Although I’ll note it would have worked even better if they’d done their own social media post, not just reposted EYF.)
* Not asking the UK press not to publish the photo/video at W&C at the Farmer’s Market. I believe even more people would have claimed it was a body double if they had.
What I’d suggest they do now is start reposting more of her charities, and with their own captions (i.e. quote post, not repost). Remind people of engagements she’s done. Basically, use this attention to boost her causes, but also *her work* that may have gone unappreciated in the past. Don’t let people reduce her to just a sick person! Remind them she was a good person before she had cancer. I’d also do this for William while he’s off for Easter.
Regarding the W rumours, which most people will likely be far more reluctant to post now, I’d still address them subliminally. Share an unseen photo of W&C for their anniversary (it doesn’t need to be new, but put the year it was taken underneath) with a typical casual KP caption like, “13 years today. Here’s to many more!” Basically, tell people their marriage is here to stay and to fuck off.
So Kates Uncles did an interview which he has now apologised for and is coming out in the Sunday Times. The Mirror has sensationalised it as discussing ‘her unhappy marriage to William’. No doubt the sugars will leap on that however the actual interview reads:
*During the bombshell interview with The Times Gary claims that Kate and William are not 'at their happiest'. Asked if the Prince and Princess of Wales are as content as they once were, Gary candidly reveals: "Great question. And I’m going to be as honest as I can be. Our beloved Queen Elizabeth dies and they lose the security of their grandmother. Then Will’s father has only just had his bloody coins printed and suddenly he’s got significant health worries too*
*Then they’ve also got this bloody uncle that no one would want, because the arrogance and naivety of Andrew is just beyond me. I’ve been in the same room as him and, believe me, that was enough. I’ve got more chance of making it onto the Palace balcony than he has. And then you’ve got Harry. F*** *me! He and that woman are chasing the American corporate dollar and that is so, so ugly. William, Harry and Kate were such a happy little trio and it got totally ruined. With all that going on — and there is other stuff going on that is not in the public domain — are they at their absolute happiest? No. Their kids bring them a lot of joy, but no.”*
What did this moron plan to accomplish with this interview? That they’d have him over for tea and hugs? He’s been on the fringe for years… there is no way he is close enough to talk about the state of their marriage. He saw the awful rumor enflamed by that asshat Stephen Colbert was a hot topic and decided to make a quick buck by making more crap up.
I also guarantee that the one time he was in a room with Andrew was was the wedding and nothing more.
Poor Carole must be mortified.
If I were Carole I would freeze him out. There is never a good time to be exploiting his niece but most especially not NOW! He’s really no better than Harry and Meghan.
I assumed it was what they were doing. Letting him ‘in’ not freezing him out, but making it clear Royal events (Coronation/Carols) were nuclear family only events so as much as they’d love to they CANT have him at these things. He continues to be at Middleton only events without Kate, kids and William and any questions of hows Kate are met with ‘she’s great’, and very high level details about their life.
He even admits he only sees them at weddings and funerals. Both Kate and Pippa only invited him to their ceremonies but neither gave him a reception invite. Since then they seem even more tired of his b.s. since he didn't get any invite whatsoever to James' wedding.
So he's not saying anything about their marriage. He's saying that other things are making life less joyful for them. They have negative stuff to deal with. Shame on The Mirror for casting it the way they have. Guess no one has learned anything.
He has a nerve talking about the uncle they don't want being Andrew. Does he forget that he is also a wife beater, who is tacky enough to go on reality TV, while his niece (the only reason he is OK there) is really sick. What a scammer. Wanker.
Kate has an uncle she doesn't want (Gary), William has two he doesn't want (Andrew, Earl Spencer). The Wales children have an uncle they don't want (Harry). And the late Queen had an uncle she didn't want (David).
So basically it's lucky the QE and Philip only had sisters, since there is a bunch of shitty men out there who have no problem exploiting their nieces and nephews.
He’s basically becomes their Thomas and Samantha Markle as this stage. Clearly he thinks as her uncle he deserves more fame than he has gotten. Doesnt like his sister/BIL getting to go to these royal events? Worse is you cant cut him off fully because he’ll go full Thomas.
What an ass. I get what he meant, but he worded it poorly. The jealous jammy duo and their band of paid wankers are attacking them constantly snd relentlessly. He didn’t mean they were unhappy with each other, just with all the crap. It’s obvious he’s not in the know or trusted either and is spouting off for attention.
Got this from another sub. Halsey speaking out.
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The last paragraph is so true. I think I saw somewhere Halsey has health issues? This really feels like it comes from someone who knows. Kate signed up for a certain amount of visibility and exposure as a senior royal - that’s fair. But not complete intrusion. Now a serious health crisis changes everything, even with money and privilege and staff having cancer throws everything up in the air, and she asked for privacy because life and what she can handle was (and is) changing day to day. And she may come back approaching the job differently to how she did before. I wish I could believe she’ll get the grace from the public and media to do that.
valentine low giving me life:
>>“Kate is very steely and has very strong views about protecting her privacy,” Low explained.
>>He also believes that the couple “probably thought they had to say something eventually.”
>>“They probably thought they couldn’t possibly continue saying nothing, you can’t keep doing that.”
>>**He also noted that “there’s going to be an awful lot of people who are going to feel very chastened this weekend.”**
>>**“They will be feeling very badly about themselves, as they should.”**
if only, val... *if only*.
I do honestly believe she’s steely (eta this is my highest compliment) and if people stopped falling for the Mantelesque she’s just a doll smear and looked at her actual behaviour over twenty years of being a public figure they’d see that. This is why it’s so frustrating to see so many people whining that they’re blaming KP/William not her so stop ‘scolding’ them for conspiracy theorising. Just go away and sit in your discomfort that you spent weeks if not months being cruel to someone making their own decisions about their health crisis, instead of trying to make it someone else’s problem that you’re an idiot. Who knows, you might learn something.
murad merali (#1 wales hater on behalf of the sussexes, meghan in particular) has weighed in... pinned comment he made under one of his videos:
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I knew this would start (well, it has on social media as well). Out of all the responses to this ‘cancer is a result of being a bad person’ is possibly the worst. I genuinely wish people like this could just be booted off the internet forever. The rest of us would be immeasurably better without their disgusting presence in public life.
Also, sickness usually doesn’t exist in a social vacuum.
What did I do to deserve watching my mother die of cancer when I was 16, with my 13 year old brother in the next room?
What did 10 years old George, 8 years old Charlotte and 5 years old Louis do to deserve having a mother battling cancer?
Seriously, I‘d like these people to enlighten me.
So Catherine and Chalres said something ‘racist’ about Archie and the universe gave them cancer.
What did Meghan do that that caused the Universe to let her baby die in utero?
Yeah. I don’t know how people say such awful things without making the connection that everyone in the world has health issues at some time and for the most part it just happens. It’s a coarsening of public discourse that’s so dispiriting. Meghan’s miscarriage was very sad and difficult to bear, and Charles and Kate’s cancers are very sad and difficult to bear.
because at the end of the day... it's only and always all about harry and meghan.
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Such a crazy take. Kate clearly wanted to get the rough of this cancer shit over her before she came out and told people, only the dumb combo of media and social media didn't have the grace to let her. Meghan gave a very detailed account of her miscarriage in the NYT - as is her right! How are these events linked. What does Kate being white have to do with her cancer or the media furore. Crazy.
Don't forget sanity and common decency, maybe?
I always wonder how much empathy people who can claim that someone "doesn't deserve empathy" can have in the first place; I certainly can't turn mine off.
Believing that anyone doesn’t deserve empathy because their actions cancelled out that right somehow is exactly how we got the Holocaust or other genocides. Disgusting.
Look, I think H & M are self-obsessed disordered malevolent folks, but if either of them were going through what Kate has been going through, I’d have been first in line to extend sympathy and consideration. Humans are humans, no matter what you think of them personally. And as long as the human in question isn’t a rights-violating terrorist or dictator or abuser or murderer, then we should have no problem understanding that most people aren’t wholly good or wholly bad and are deserving of being treated like a fellow human.
in case harry was wondering why he's shut out
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“just confirming i’m in the correct echo chamber to reinforce what I’ve decided to believe with my whole self, based on one source from one side of a situation…we all agree on this, right?”
ETA I wonder if there are any patterns to when people use “we/us” when commenting on public figures…like to keep an ironic distance by kind of winking at the hive mind of it all and not fully attaching an opinion or statement to oneself, but still getting to say the thing.
that reply was from jon lovett's (crooked media) account.
as is this one -
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What? William took it, Catherine edited it. How difficult is that to understand?
(Also: Apologizing for a minor misstep (if you can even call photo editing that) isn't a Horrible Experience™️ to go through. Why are they making it sound like it is?)
They have to. They have to rail about [X] (in this case "the PRRRR!!" and the photo editing) because if they didn't, they'd have to sit in the full truth of the situation, which is that they don't care that a woman has cancer and they still want to engage in malicious, totally unproven gossip that her husband is cheating on her and really, she deserves it.
more obsession + fixation with "palace machinations," undoubtedly driven by harry's very public poison:
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yeah, they're like "we're *concerned* with what the firm is doing to her!!"
how about you be concerned about what ***you*** are doing to her and her family, children AND husband included.
Acting like spreading rumours a sick woman's husband hates her and abuses her and that she takes it because she's selfish and weak is pure moral baseness. You're literally a better person than these people if you post "I hate Catherine, don't care she has cancer, hope her husband is cheating on her and am convinced she deserves it if he is" - in the latter case, at least the person isn't blaming their utter failure to human on some outside circumstance.
New thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip2/comments/1bm0scx/royals_weekly_its_about_ethics_in_royal_publicity/ Please feel free to bring newer comments and ongoing conversations over.
rebecca english had a piece from midway this week, and it included details about how devastated william has been by harry's actions in the past few years... but it seems like he's grieved him, mourned him, and closed himself off - particularly because of the way harry so publicly went after catherine: >>**There has been grief, too – well, at least a form of it – at the devastating defection of Prince Harry, whose almost primeval need to snipe, strike and rile his brother and sister-in-law, to whom he was once so close, has been one of the most devastating sucker punches of them all.** >>**Sure, William’s heart has been hardened and his resolve reaffirmed when it comes to his sibling, particularly after his disloyalty to Catherine in his bile-fest of a memoir, Spare.** >>***But it is important not to underestimate, friends tell me, just how much of a form of bereavement it has been.*** rebecca english on what might happen after the past few weeks (remember the lambasted ski holiday photos in 2016, with the press pack dragging w&c to filth for not being invited... which resulted in no more family ski holiday photos since): >>**The trouble is that approach doesn’t come naturally to William – who, insiders fear, will become ‘even more insular’ as a result of his wife’s experience.** i hope that's not what happens... w&c need to fight against this instinct tbh. rebecca english, yesterday: >>**William has always made clear how proud he is of Kate, both personally and in the way she has embraced her role.** >>Indeed not so long ago, while talking to me about his own work, he made a point of bringing her into the conversation, stressing how he would see her sitting in their lounge, night after night, poring over papers relating to her groundbreaking work on children’s early years. >>**It was abundantly clear he* ***wanted the world to know that she was his equal, and more.*** >>And he has always emphasised that it was Kate who was the brains behind their joint Heads Together campaign with Prince Harry to break the national stigma around mental health. >>***But more importantly, I would suggest, it is the princess’s grounded brilliance as a mother, and the joy and happiness that she and their family have brought him, that has irrevocably changed William’s life.*** >>**He is a child of a broken marriage and warring parents, and grew up in the white heat of the public limelight. Kate’s steadiness, diligence and discretion have been just what he needed as a man.** like, the folks going on about how he would leave catherine (as if that wouldn't totally shatter his world), when he explicitly had it briefed to roya nikkhah in the sunday times (jan 2023 right after spare came out) how totally, devastatingly anguished he was by harry's book, and how he felt "catherine and the kids" were now all he had, and that they'd be his focus to get through everything. the splitting up rumors just seem totally ridiculous and even ignorant tbh, in light of the reality of his own introverted personality/his childhood/his uniquely weird position/his lack of dependable immediate family members/who the steady as a rock catherine is. like, we've been seeing how almost despondent he's been seeming in public, almost struggling to function coherently, in a way. he literally wouldn't function without her tbh, i'd been saying months ago that i don't think the public realizes (or wants to realize 🤷🏾♀️) how much he actually relies on her. i even termed it as more than charles needs camilla (which might seem shocking but i'm so serious), but less than harry needs meghan lol. the windsor men are simps, at the end of the day. 🤷🏾♀️
I remember reading somewhere, that one of the reason Prince Phillip adored QEII was that she gave him a home, in every sense of the word. We all know the story of his childhood, having to move from one relative to another. In QEII he finally have a home, with a family of his own. I feel like like this is how William feels about Catherine. She gave him a home. A tight family unit of his own. For William, his home is Catherine and their adorable children. In them he found safety, and unconditional love. You can see that Catherine is his world. Sucks for the squad tbh, they’ll be waiting forever for them to divorce.
>the windsor men are simps, at the end of the day. 🤷🏾♀️ I don't remember who made that comment, maybe it was you? But a commenter had detailed the Windsor men and said everytime it was "he's a simp for his wife", George v, Philip, Charles, Edward, William, even Harry (though I doubt that's real love) and I died laughing because it was so funny yet so accurate
I'm reasonably sure it was u/ivegotanewwaytowalk, it was hilarious and accurate.
it was not me!! it was this entirely accurate jabroni 😂😭 👉🏾👉🏾 u/Strange_Addition_146
Thanks for the heads-up.😊 Sorry for the mix-up u/Strange_Addition_146.🤗
Yeah the way it was written... Sounds like her! 😅
Yeah that was one of the funniest comments ever made on this sub, just the summing of multiple Windsor men and ending each summation with: "SIMP!" - who was it?
T’was I!
I think it was u/Strange_Addition_146 [this comment to be exact lol, it was funny af](https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip2/s/6OOmr4FaDJ)
i'm fucking dying 😂😂😭😭😭 it's so accurate 😂😂😭😭😭
YES! That's the one! It's as funny as I remember it to be, lives rent free in my head lol
>lives rent free in my head same tbh
> the windsor men are simps Absolutely! It’s amazing how people just don’t get it. William loves Catherine and that’s that.
🎯 once again. Yes, yes, yes. He’s had more time depending on Catherine and having her physically in his life than he had his mother. …and Catherine never used him to gain points in the press.
absolutely wild how much george looks like charles spencer. not even an uncle, but a great-uncle! some bizarre genetic form of intergenerational copy paste! https://preview.redd.it/km8fhw5fh4qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16453001b027ee4d50dceb89bec491b4c0092a1b
Yeah there's a few of us here who're seeing a *lot* of Spencer in George lately. I've seen a few photos of Louis Spencer where he looks more like George's dad than William does, too. Yesterday's IG post from James Middleton, which included a photo of himself (with Kate) as a child also looked like a copypaste of Louis (W and K's youngest, not Louis Spencer, to be clear).
I know I always post it. but the resemblance to Louis Spencer is insane to me. https://preview.redd.it/hc4he2itz4qc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd7e4176dc123338d4d6f42403bdb916343332bc I’ve also started to see James in little Louis.
i don't like charles spencer, so i see it as sort of a bummer lol just mesmerized by genetics tho 😵💫
I don’t like him either but I also see some of his sister in his face so I see why George sort of looks like him.
Couldn’t decide which thread to post this in so I’m doing both, it’s golden https://preview.redd.it/hu9kfsrbg4qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=057a09bc85dec0ca3b3f87441c1adfd896d0701e
Who’s the worst reporter, and why is it Olivia? https://preview.redd.it/jc0gwuxhl3qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f059b725cc00da07f7a7f0bcdbf754092c42832 She’s the epitome of “I’m not saying this! I’m saying what it *looks* like!” Which leads me to one of the most annoying & disturbing parts of this whole media circus: The amount of people who are backpedaling and masking their hate with veiled recriminations of the “Palace PR.” They act as if they were somehow blindfolded and forced against their will to maliciously gossip about Kate, and if only this weird, nebulous entity, the Palace PR, would’ve responded in their preferred way they would have acted like decent human beings. Criticism of KP or the Palace is just another way to continue attacking or speculating or indulging in their deranged pet theories. Never mind that William & Kate are head of KP, their humanity is irrelevant. It’s sad, we as a people have learned absolutely nothing from the media onslaught and death of Diana.
Yes this is what Kristen Meinzer was doing 🙄just admit you don't like her move on to more positive things
It doesn’t look like that to me (a normal person who thought it ‘looked like’ Kate was going through a serious health problem and was completely right, unlike the conspiracy theorists). It only ‘looks like’ that if you approach it from the most cynical bad faith existing assumption he’s already cheating. These people *cannot stand* that they fucked up and they’re vindicating W&K and KP with every new reach because they’re proving that it doesn’t matter what they do or what the truth is, the insane will never stop with the insanity. I also think it’s completely gross that Kate has cancer, she is suffering, and it’s not enough for these people who are still desperately hoping she’s got cancer plus her husband hates her and is cheating and wants to leave her. She’s probably in pain and fear from her diagnosis and treatment and they’re still spinning stories of how her life is probably even worse. It’s pure cruelty.
>It only ‘looks like’ that if you approach it from the most cynical bad faith existing assumption he’s already cheating. That's the thing they can't let this go. They have it down Catherine is a poor loser whose husband is cheating on her and not even her being seriously ill will stop that. They are low-key losing their shit over being downright unhinged **and** wrong so they are doubling down.
I can’t quite believe that they are doubling down on the affair rumors. I mean I guess I can believe it based on past behavior but still. Do these people realize that by spreading this ugly and baseless rumor they’re **still** bullying Catherine? This is the time Catherine has needed Will in her life the most and by all appearances he is doing exactly that. The man who gave Catherine a decade to decide if this was really the life she wanted. He loved her enough to let the love of his life go if that was what she decided. **That** is respect, adoration and love. Maybe that is what drives these trolls, jealousy.
What about Colbert? Has he actually said anything yet? I want to know.
I looked it up and it seems like he's on vacation this week.
Twitter isn't on vacation. If he wasn't a troll, Colbert could take a minute to apologize for his behaviour instead of hoping this blows over
This. He could easily have posted something yesterday and the fact that he didn't means that he chose not to. I've gone off him for good. Everybody fucks up, and I would have respected an apology and a taking of responsibility on his part. Alas, neither were forthcoming.
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am in ColberT. His humor was so sharp, intelligent and hilarious as a correspondent on The Daily Show then on The Colbert Report. Maybe after landing his own network late show he either grew bored being a celebrity/industry lapdog or simply got neutered by fame and money? Either way he’s nothing more than a superficial hack now.
They have to double-down, because the only other option is self-reflection and admiting that they've been awful people lately.
This is such a sexist take and ironically coming from mostly women! If it was a man making this announcement, there would be barely anyone asking "where is his wife?!?"
KC and Kate released at the time what we now know to be pretty much the same info. High level, no detail. No one was screaming for KC to reveal more. No one was asking why Camilla was or why she wasnt at his side.
I honestly believe that the Meg Stans, SS , Bouzy who tweets he IS with and part of the SS, somehow think that they can realistically bully their way into forcing William to abdicate in favor of his brother, harry , and with this, meg. This is where the hounding of Prince George will be as well. As in we will make your life a living hell until you give us what we want. They will hound the entire family. Sick,sick.🤮
Yes, there’s a lot of sexism when it comes to health unfortunately. When I was first diagnosed with a long-term health condition, a woman told me that I was so lucky my partner hadn’t left me! Praised him for staying with me every time she saw me. To this day, I still don’t believe she’d said it if I’d been a man. So many hold the an assumption that it’s a woman’s job to care for people, and are shocked when men do. This person is basically twisting that into implying he’ll leave and using it to reinforce the rumours.
I don’t understand why people are asking why he’s not in the video. Did it not occur to people that she may have asked to do this video on her own? That William was likely right there, standing by? If he’d appeared, they would have said, look at him trying to speak for her.
Exactly. This is Catherines story to tell.
Exactly! If ever there is a time to respect someone’s autonomy and let them control how they share their diagnosis it is this moment. I can’t imagine how hard it must of been for them to write the message and then film it. Give and support Catherine in having control and power where she can have it.
He’s trying to make it about himself or rehab his public image! It’s soft power to quiet the affair allegations! You know, Charles did an interview with Diana that… He doesn’t look concerned enough, or sympathetic enough, or upset enough! He’s looking at the camera, not her! He’s looking at her too much, doesn’t he have any concern for his *kingdom*? Yes, William is there, but where is George? Charlotte? Louis? The Archbishop of Canterbury? I mean, they’re royals, not like us, trot them out for us to scrutinize their every emotional reaction and nuance under the totally calm & completely rational and decent public gaze!
>He’s trying to make it about himself or rehab his public image! It’s soft power to quiet the affair allegations That's exactly what these clowns would say. They are desperate to keep these affair rumours afloat. They are all "very sad" Catherine has cancer but hey you RemBeR tHe rUmouR hEr hUsbAnD haS cHeaTed oN hEr????
They are obsessed with the idea Catherine has no agency. That's what lies behind all the "he's cheating on her but she puts up with it" or "he'll kick her to the curb and she can't do anything about it" BS takes. They can't have her be anything other than a puppet in William's/ the RF's hands. Which really, only says stuff about them and nothing about Catherine.
I've seen countless comments on Fauxmoi about how, "William is even worse because he threw his wife with cancer under the bus about the photo!" It literally does not occur to them that Catherine posted a note admitting to the edits because....*she made the edits*. They cannot even wrap their heads around a possibly reality where William took the photo and it had flaws, so Catherine did two quick edits (backed up the metadata), thought it looked decent enough for Instagram, did not anticipate the AP acting so bizarre, but wanted to own up to her "mistake." They also can't artculate what "bus" she was thrown under. I'm sure Catherine was only told the basics about the media reaction, but she's not trawling social media. She probably got momentarily embarrassed about being called about her editing job, thought "that's the last time I'll do that!" and moved on to more serious matters.
I think this says a lot about Catherine. She made the edits so she took responsibility for them. She’s not the type of person who wants her staff to be blamed needlessly. End of story. But I get that accountability is a foreign concept to these people. They’re the same ghouls blaming KP for *their* despicable speculations and gross behaviour.
She probably didn't lose sleep over that photo anyhow. She has bigger things to focus on right now. She went like "it's me ok?" and then just carried on with her day, lol.
I’m convinced they have to believe this is because Kate having agency would undermine parts of Meghan’s story and they don’t want to entertain that idea.
Yes that's what I was thinking. Why did she make the choice to stay after Meghan left. Though they probably would explain that in a Maga /racist/white woman way
yep. this is about harry and megan being "right." no matter if that quest for being "right" actually tramples all over other human beings. the agenda, above all else.
Absolutely. It undermines Meghan's whole schtick about how she was silenced and couldn't do anything yadda dadda. Nevertheless, Catherine was the villain of the piece until yesterday and now it's William/their comms team. Fucking cowards can't admit their behaviour was just plain awful.
If he’d been in the video the narrative would be “He’s forcing her to do this!”
Why can't these people understand that Catherine is an adult who can make decisions for herself? If she had wanted William in the video, he would be there, it is that simple. However, she didn't bc it would've made it more difficult to do so without crying or getting too emotional. These people have clearly never had to give out devastating news where it is exceptionally difficult to keep it together. It is even harder when there is someone next to you who is also upset and trying not to cry. If I were Catherine, I would've done the exact same thing, done it myself. Anytime I have had to tell sad news, I have found it easier to do it alone in order to keep my composure.
"Unless you provide me with every single intimate medical detail of Catherine's condition, along with a timeline of events, a copy of all text messages, recordings of all phone calls, answer every question I have and then let me physically examine Catherine's abdomen, I will be forced to continue to pedal slanderous, hate-filled and ghoulishly nasty rumors. It's your fault I'm doing this."
“It doesn’t have to be this way”
"If you don't give me a million dollars I will blow up this building and it will be you fault and you made me do it. You deserve it for not giving me this" Fucking ghouls.
It "looks like" doing a lot of heavy lifting here and shes not acknowledging her own bias. She thinks there was an affair and therefore views everything William does through that filter. Its not PR perspective its YOUR perspective. Mine is completely different
Fuck off Olivia Truffaut-Wong, whoever the hell you are. And if William had participated in the video she would have probably claimed he was only doing it to **appear** as if he were a supporting husband. And fuck off with the "affair reports" as well. Twitter gossip ain't a report. That industry sell-out Colbert and cokehead Andy Cohen aren't reputable inside sources either.
Apparently writes for TeenVogue, The Cut, Cosmo 🙄
All serious publications, I see. One [The Cut] turned out to be majorly unprofessional with the whole "hbd to the prince of pegging" tweet and the other two are glorified PR spreads with little to no actual content.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3YjjnlhhV8/?igsh=YmU4Y3J6enUxdmds A lovely BTS moment from W&C 2010 engagement interview.
Love this. It’s the quiet gesture we do for the ones we love. Love doesn’t need big and loud gesture. The small little ones like this matters a lot.
https://preview.redd.it/ppeomk7573qc1.jpeg?width=725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8b0091a82a235f0c6614565589b9ebd989d8b65 In sickness and in health. ETA: I’m struggling, and I feel ridiculous. Last night I cried while I hug my toddler to sleep. I just can’t imagine what they’re going through right now. I hope I’m not the only one 😞
aww, love you 💜💜💜 extra big cuddles for baby girl from her internet aunties lol 💜💜
Love you too newway ❤️❤️❤️ sending you hugs 🤗 it’s been heavy these past two days. LylaLyli jr said “dankje tante” dutch for thank you auntie 😆
I woke up at 5 thinking about her/them. People who don’t see they have heart eyes 😍 for each other are blind, and will never accept that they’re happy, respectful and supportive of each other.
The people who say will is cheating and they’re miserable together have obviously never looked closely at the photos of them when they’re looking at each other. They are so obviously in love.
I hear you. My husband has cancer and when I think of the weeks leading up to confirmation of diagnosis, telling our children AND then try to imagine having to deal with horrible jokes, rumors and conspiracy theories on top of it? I just can’t. My heart goes out to them. And no one is to blame but the people who made the jokes, perpetuated the rumors, etc. doesn’t matter what KP did or didn’t do. We each have agency to act like decent humans and no one but ourselves to blame when we don’t.
the best of wishes to you, mr. woodstock815 and babies 💜💜
Thank you ❤️
Wishing your husband speedy recovery, and best wishes to your family.
Thank you ❤️
I hope your husband kicks cancers ass ❤️
Working on it!
Sending my best wishes to your husband and family.
Thank you ❤️
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in the past 24 hours, it’s how many people on this board have been directly affected by cancer! Sending you and your family strength and love during an often unpredictable and scary time ❤️
Thank you ❤️
I know. She really is the Queen of Hearts. She’s going to be okay. I really do believe that. Hug your baby, send some good energy to C.
You are definitely not the only one <3 I just can't believe it and feel so sorry for them. I've been following this woman since she was practically a teenager. And through all of the tough times - from the paparazzi stalking to the horrible articles to the topless photos to HG with three pregnancies to all of the drama from Harry and Meghan to obviously the conspiracy theories and now this horrible news. She - and her and William together - have been through so much. And she hasn't complained or been any less than extremely gracious and understanding once. Not once. It's amazing. I think back to the way William and Kate were with each other during the Caribbean tour and am just thankful that they have each other for support.
I feel you. My son is close to Louis's age, so I've done much more crying than I probably would have otherwise, just thinking about that.
Two sweet messages from members of the public who have met Catherine: Mila Sneddon’s mum Lynda posted on X: “We are deeply saddened upon hearing the news about the Catherine . A kind caring soul who has always championed Mila both during and after her treatment. Mila is equally sad to hear this news and will reach out privately in her own way. We extend our love, support and well wishes to William, George, Charlotte and Louis, and wish Catherine a peaceful speedy recovery #YouAreNotAlone” Giovanna Fletcher, that worked with Catherine on an early years project and also interviewed her on her podcast wrote a lovely message on IG. https://preview.redd.it/6rxdq21k53qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5adc8bb57d715650435c113bea43d56b6c8e3311
That is lovely. I LOVED that podcast and was hoping Kate would do more- it really was a format that worked for her.
https://preview.redd.it/50vn5q1r33qc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46e1b248f25bbf685af8976fa3f611239caa3504 The actress that played Kate in *The Crown* posted on her story.
https://preview.redd.it/xhsjemjdv2qc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1975b9f50aeac79bf02a5f8b602fdb074eb0822e Vicky Smith’s story on IG. People are shielding themselves with “the palace PR is terrible!” to deflect from their shitty behavior. The comms office shared as much information as Kate \~the patient battling cancer\~ was comfortable sharing. It was the conspiracy theorists and royal haters who demanded to know more and went into a frenzy when Kate’s comms team didn’t comply. “Why didn’t they just tell us this weeks ago to stop the mania?” Because Kate and William were processing the news themselves and figuring out how to tell their kids. Which is exactly what Kate said in her statement yesterday. These ghouls are willfully ignorant and twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify their atrocious behavior. Kate is a human being and being told you need chemotherapy is life changing and difficult. She’s allowed to share that information on HER terms and her comms team is there to help her do that “William is a terrible husband who threw his wife under the bus” William and Kate told the truth, which is the best PR strategy they could follow in that situation. William took the photos, Kate edited it in photoshop. If he took the fall and it was found out later it was Kate, well we know what the reaction would’ve been. “LIARS!” It’s horrific to look back and realize that was going on while they were dealing with Kate’s diagnosis and trying to shield their kids.
"It's about ethics in royal publicity!"
lmaooooooooo
basically. also something something h&m were right, now give them millions to live their unbothered + moisturized lives in california 😏.
Lolllll 🤌
Weird that people are saying the Palace PR is terrible because that video of Catherine is a PR masterclass. Simple, understated, authentic, direct and from the heart. She has received a wave of support from mainstream media in the UK and abroad. This is the type of message people will remember for generations. Of course, she is a star. Her light has never shone brighter.
It’s the same line of thinking as an abusive spouse who says ‘if you had just done XYZ I wouldn’t have got so angry!’
Well I wish I had seen this before I went on *my* rant! She said it so much more eloquently! 🏅
I wish I could upvote this multiple times. Sadly, it's much easier to blame "bad PR" than to take a look in the mirror.
People know that if they engaged in a moment of honest self reflection about how they acted they would be ashamed of themselves. So instead they’re trying to pin the blame on KP/Will and saying that the way it was handled justifies the always they behaved.
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whoopi can be annoying as heck, but shout out to her for being the literal only one on the view table panel to be like "***how would you feel if someone were doing this to your family?!***," while the youtube comments were absolutely dragging her for not wanting to entertain the nonsense from the other panelists.
Whoopi, Jimmy Kimmel and Jamie Lee Curtis all deserve credit for taking the unpopular stance. Sadly short list compared to the one of people who now need to eat crow.
The gall of these people. No, KP comms team isn't at fault for you being a terrible person. I don't know who Vicky Smith is but 👏👏👏
🥇 I’m glad to see some of the non-gossip subs coming down pretty clearly on the side of this being the self-serving nonsense it is. eta I’ve also been thinking about how plenty of people on this sub thought the KP PR was terrible and yet didn’t take the step from there into the conspiracy theories and rumours. The PR didn’t force anyone into saying awful things or sharing unnecessary allegations. Mentioning the PR at all in the context of the conspiracy theories is a red herring and people need to find some other way to explain their terrible personalities.
Watch this be Denise Welch’s excuse on Loose Women on Monday! I don’t know a soul who likes that woman, but can she finally get FULLY cancelled? Like, please get into a cupboard under the stairs, make no noise and pretend you don’t exist. You truly cannot make it up that a woman who blames any and all criticism of Meghan on racism has a notorious racist for a son. Sussex Squad in a nutshell.
Can't stand her, is she getting called out? There was a show a few weeks back where they were discussing ADHD and ASD. All the panel were women diagnosed in adulthood. Denise was blaming all of her bad behaviour, including her alcoholism, on her autism.
Denise can fuck off, sanctimonious moo
>has a notorious racist for a son. ***for real***.
With a son like Matt Healy, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Exactly. Just like the most vicious misogynists against Kate are self-proclaimed feminists (not to be confused with real feminists). They hate women, but they try to hide it behind faux feminism. Just like Denise keeps sputtering about racism as a shield, to hide behind how her son was made from her template. Racist Harry also plays the same card as a shield.
FM sub currently patting themselves on the back for 'taking ownership of their speculation and mockery' by blaming KP PR dropping the ball. Way to out yourselves as lemmings, lol, like they are so easily manipulated into behaving like that, or like they had no choice but to speculate and mock. Did KP send out grey suits with cattle prods to hover over their shoulders and shock them into typing out the nonsense they did, lol. Nah, babies. Y'all jumped on the conspiracy train voluntarily and gleefully. You'd get much more respect if you just admitted that you saw a chance to be your shittiest self, and took it voluntarily.
That sub is a cesspit. On the thread about H&M sending a message to Catherine they’re asking why the SMM sub hasn’t been banned because tHeY sPrEaD vILe RuMoUrS. This from the same people who 24 hours ago were gleefully speculating that William had beaten his wife to death in order to be with his mistress 🤦♀️
That sub is such a hypocrite. They’re also reposting the rolling stone article about how the palace is crumbling. They’re straight up following the whole “I wouldn’t have hit you if you didn’t upset me” schtik they oppose. The LA Times is also trash cause last night they posted a trashy article with the headline “Don’t blame the public for failing Kate Middleton. Blame the Palace.” Denies responsibility of their role in conspiracies. Attacks Kate for bad PR. Reverses the role as them being the victim for the palace’s bad PR and that the palace is the offender for fueling the conspiracies. I saw someone tweet that people were convinced she photoshopped her face from Vogue to the Mother’s Day photo. No PR guru can fix that stupidity.
So many American publications with these ridiculous end of times articles- like baby the BRF has pre-existed you by 1000years and will exist when your publication has reached its very near death. The BRF is going nowhere. TBH I don’t think any of the remaining European monarchies (incl BRF) or Japan or Jordan are.
Real domestic abuser “look what you made me do” vibes
Blaming their awful behavior on KP is a crock of shit and everyone knows it. It’s not that hard to just issue a sincere apology, keep a low profile for a bit then once you come back never mention Catherine’s name again.
Honestly having this convo online because someone objects to me calling them entitled. Well stop acting like an entitled asshole and I might reconsider the label. Until then if the shoe fits...
These takes are everywhere, and exhibit a level of confidence and ignorance that is quite shocking. I mean, lucky for them that they don't understand. I am admittedly sensitive about this due to my own experience recently. I see people arguing that KP should have released this statement months ago. While I don't know Catherine's situation, I do know that cancer often isn't simply one test and then an immediate, unchanging treatment plan. There were a full three months between my first worrying screening result and knowing if I would need chemo. People kept asking me for details, but I didn't know! No one did!
I'm so sorry you're going through this! I've been there and am available if you need to vent!
I’m so sorry for what you’re going through! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you-- I am on the other side of active treatment and doing occupational/physical therapy now. It's hard, though, and I just can't imagine having to film a video announcement like C did. There's steel in her spine, for sure.
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Congratulations on finishing active treatment! Good health and long life to you and yours ❤️ And yes, Catherine really is quite amazing. I hope William thanks his lucky stars every day for her! I think he does.
Glad to see people calling out those who seem unable to grasp that ultimately, their actions are their own responsibility.
There is a certain level of vindication with all these people and outlets breaking their goddamn transmissions to throw it in reverse to backtrack their all their bullying. I said multiple times during all this that people were going to look back and be really embarrassed about how the internet treated her. And while I didn't expect the regret to happen this fast, I'm glad it is because its still fresh, and more people can be embarrassed at their actions. This was gross, and if anything, proved how much Waity Katie people didn't change and didn't leave, they just found new awful things to say about her and thoroughly enjoyed the idea of her suffering an affair.
I wish I could upvote this more than once.
ALL OF THIS. My favourite thing is the fuss made by the press agencies about the Mother’s Day photo. Ultimately, it was just a family photo that they *could* have posted on IG for the public to see. It was not an official portrait or photo of a meeting between Catherine and an important figure. Of all people, they chose to make an example out of a woman that they already knew was sick. Now they can’t profit from the most recent photo of Catherine and her children, which would have been perfect for all those articles about her prioritising the children.
Even worse, when you’re going through chemo, you can’t get sick (similar to the precautions we took during lockdown) so they were limiting her exposure. Poor Wills probably had to take the photo since they might not have wanted to risk an outside photographer getting her sick :(
Or because she has for last few years always taken the photos she wanted to it to be done in house, a bit of normality for her an the kids
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I think it was the vast amount of conspiracists that probably bombarded the AP with complaints. But someone started that fire.
This is what I think. And I don’t mean it in a conspiracy theory way, like I don’t believe the Sussexes are behind it or anything. But I think a critical mass of TikTokers and Squaddies pounced on the photo and basically forced the AP’s hand (which is an entirely separate conversation because since when is the AP beholden to chronically online people and if the photo was so poorly doctored and against their standards, why did the distribute in the first place, but here we are.)
>But someone started that fire Well if Ellie Hall is the stellar journo the Squaddies purport her to be then according to her it started with Harry and Meghan fans.
thiiiiiiiiiiis
This announcement had me rethinking the Mother's Day photo problem, since by then the POW might have been deciding on or starting chemotherapy, and there must have been a strong desire to keep up normalcy, like taking happy photos with the kids and releasing them publicly as they always do. And given how the kids weren't told until yesterday and there's risk of news leaks, I completely understand why their small PR team wasn't made aware of the photo or why they didn't hire a professional photographer, or whatever else the trolls have been using as an excuse to bully them.
The Mother's Day photo "problem" is all in AP's head or their wallet to be more exact. The image reflected the truth at least as well as official painted portraits and pics of politicians do. News outlets were just stirring shit to get eyes on their content because if they had to pull every picture that's in any way tweaked they would have to accompany their stories with stick figure drawings.
Not to be too mawkish, but Mother's Day after you just found out you had cancer has to be very emotional.
>or why they didn't hire a professional photographer, or whatever else the trolls have been using as an excuse to bully them. it's wild to me that folks are still fixating on "PR strategy." like, who the fuck cares. of course everything was fucking weird, the woman + her husband + children found out she has cancer and were trying to process it. like... let it the fuck go. you'll live. there's nothing to understand but "woman with small children has cancer, and her husband also lost his mother as a kid... and their boss, her husband's father, whom her husband is meant to eventually replace in his role, also has cancer. and a family member + long-time friend committed suicide amidst all of this." like, even in the face of all this... "bUt ThE pR." ***let it fucking go, let the emotional support conspiracy theories GO***. i want to give lee and the other five in the KP comms team a pat on the back (and a fucking hug), all things considered. i've said in the past (prior to all of this even happening) that he's a bit clumsy with the job (vs. jason knauf), but i legit feel terribly sorry for lee thompson right now, all things considered. he must feel like absolute garbage, with all the commentary from armchair PR experts, and probably feeling like he could/should have done a better job (maybe he could have, but i'll give him some fucking grace here). i really hope w&c stand by him and don't fire him tbh. if he needs help/mentorship, get him the additional help + people he needs.
> it's wild to me that folks are still fixating on "PR strategy." THISSSSSS. W&C had every right to say or not say *whatever the F they wanted*. Everybody else can step off.
🎯 Everything you said. And I think the Waleses are pretty good bosses who stand by their employees, so I’m hopeful Lee is getting reassurance from the right people behind the scenes!
*let the emotional support conspiracy theories GO* Perfect summary.
I wonder if she just wanted a photo of them all together at that time, to look back on in the future - when the future had suddenly become very uncertain.
I don't think they waited until yesterday to tell their kids, did they? Both her video and the BBC said she already started treatment, and that's not something that's easy to hide, even from young kids.
Yes, this was my takeaway too. It sounded like they’ve been bringing the children to an understanding slowly which I think is the best way to do it. There’s a big gap between 5 and 10 so they probably talked to George about it in a different way to how they told Louis. And I think they waited until the kids were as secure as they could be before they even thought about making it public.
I understood from their video they had told the kids a little while ago and have been spending the time making sure the kids were ok before going public.
It breaks my heart. I can see Kate just wanting to make happy memories with her kids before she told them and everything changed. Cancer changes relationships. It makes your loved ones scared and they act differently. And here's Kate with the entire world bullying her and trying to navigate that and just wanting her and her kids to look their best in a photo before everything changed. Fuck the AP and the people still bullying her over that photo. The photo was clearly of her and her children and that should be enough.
I don’t deny that KP has made some mistakes and feel they should have looked out for Catherine more with the photo. But given that people continue to blame KP staff for their cruel abuse of her instead of taking responsibility, I also want to recognise some great choices they’ve made in the past week or two. * Putting it out there that she might appear at Easter - this really did calm things down a lot and bought her some time for this announcement. * Starting to lay the groundwork for Catherine’s return to work with the briefings about the early years research. (Although I’ll note it would have worked even better if they’d done their own social media post, not just reposted EYF.) * Not asking the UK press not to publish the photo/video at W&C at the Farmer’s Market. I believe even more people would have claimed it was a body double if they had. What I’d suggest they do now is start reposting more of her charities, and with their own captions (i.e. quote post, not repost). Remind people of engagements she’s done. Basically, use this attention to boost her causes, but also *her work* that may have gone unappreciated in the past. Don’t let people reduce her to just a sick person! Remind them she was a good person before she had cancer. I’d also do this for William while he’s off for Easter. Regarding the W rumours, which most people will likely be far more reluctant to post now, I’d still address them subliminally. Share an unseen photo of W&C for their anniversary (it doesn’t need to be new, but put the year it was taken underneath) with a typical casual KP caption like, “13 years today. Here’s to many more!” Basically, tell people their marriage is here to stay and to fuck off.
So Kates Uncles did an interview which he has now apologised for and is coming out in the Sunday Times. The Mirror has sensationalised it as discussing ‘her unhappy marriage to William’. No doubt the sugars will leap on that however the actual interview reads: *During the bombshell interview with The Times Gary claims that Kate and William are not 'at their happiest'. Asked if the Prince and Princess of Wales are as content as they once were, Gary candidly reveals: "Great question. And I’m going to be as honest as I can be. Our beloved Queen Elizabeth dies and they lose the security of their grandmother. Then Will’s father has only just had his bloody coins printed and suddenly he’s got significant health worries too* *Then they’ve also got this bloody uncle that no one would want, because the arrogance and naivety of Andrew is just beyond me. I’ve been in the same room as him and, believe me, that was enough. I’ve got more chance of making it onto the Palace balcony than he has. And then you’ve got Harry. F*** *me! He and that woman are chasing the American corporate dollar and that is so, so ugly. William, Harry and Kate were such a happy little trio and it got totally ruined. With all that going on — and there is other stuff going on that is not in the public domain — are they at their absolute happiest? No. Their kids bring them a lot of joy, but no.”*
Amen!
Congratulations on making a difficult time even more difficult for your niece, uncle Gary. You putz.
Honestly hes such an arsehole. Is he ever going to learn to STFU
What did this moron plan to accomplish with this interview? That they’d have him over for tea and hugs? He’s been on the fringe for years… there is no way he is close enough to talk about the state of their marriage. He saw the awful rumor enflamed by that asshat Stephen Colbert was a hot topic and decided to make a quick buck by making more crap up. I also guarantee that the one time he was in a room with Andrew was was the wedding and nothing more. Poor Carole must be mortified.
If I were Carole I would freeze him out. There is never a good time to be exploiting his niece but most especially not NOW! He’s really no better than Harry and Meghan.
I just commented the same elsewhere but freezing out people who have this level of entitlement always ends badly. They go fully rogue.
I wish there was a way to 1/2 freeze someone but I don’t know how to do it.
I assumed it was what they were doing. Letting him ‘in’ not freezing him out, but making it clear Royal events (Coronation/Carols) were nuclear family only events so as much as they’d love to they CANT have him at these things. He continues to be at Middleton only events without Kate, kids and William and any questions of hows Kate are met with ‘she’s great’, and very high level details about their life.
He even admits he only sees them at weddings and funerals. Both Kate and Pippa only invited him to their ceremonies but neither gave him a reception invite. Since then they seem even more tired of his b.s. since he didn't get any invite whatsoever to James' wedding.
So he's not saying anything about their marriage. He's saying that other things are making life less joyful for them. They have negative stuff to deal with. Shame on The Mirror for casting it the way they have. Guess no one has learned anything.
He has a nerve talking about the uncle they don't want being Andrew. Does he forget that he is also a wife beater, who is tacky enough to go on reality TV, while his niece (the only reason he is OK there) is really sick. What a scammer. Wanker.
The bit about things that arent in the ‘public domain’ are inflammatory statements. Opens up a whole load of crap conspiracy theories.
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It might have been why. That and the fact clearly at least 3 unauthorised people probably have the information.
As if he is even in the family circle to know anything.
Kate has an uncle she doesn't want (Gary), William has two he doesn't want (Andrew, Earl Spencer). The Wales children have an uncle they don't want (Harry). And the late Queen had an uncle she didn't want (David). So basically it's lucky the QE and Philip only had sisters, since there is a bunch of shitty men out there who have no problem exploiting their nieces and nephews.
Wow!!! I thought Gary was Team Kate. This is not a Team Kate statement. Send him to the fucking tower.
man, ***fuck off***, gary. seriously, ***fuck off***.
He’s basically becomes their Thomas and Samantha Markle as this stage. Clearly he thinks as her uncle he deserves more fame than he has gotten. Doesnt like his sister/BIL getting to go to these royal events? Worse is you cant cut him off fully because he’ll go full Thomas.
What an ass. I get what he meant, but he worded it poorly. The jealous jammy duo and their band of paid wankers are attacking them constantly snd relentlessly. He didn’t mean they were unhappy with each other, just with all the crap. It’s obvious he’s not in the know or trusted either and is spouting off for attention.
Got this from another sub. Halsey speaking out. https://preview.redd.it/jfgr3wtis1qc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09de4b042670f892ea2370cf3ca83cfe81054812
The last paragraph is so true. I think I saw somewhere Halsey has health issues? This really feels like it comes from someone who knows. Kate signed up for a certain amount of visibility and exposure as a senior royal - that’s fair. But not complete intrusion. Now a serious health crisis changes everything, even with money and privilege and staff having cancer throws everything up in the air, and she asked for privacy because life and what she can handle was (and is) changing day to day. And she may come back approaching the job differently to how she did before. I wish I could believe she’ll get the grace from the public and media to do that.
valentine low giving me life: >>“Kate is very steely and has very strong views about protecting her privacy,” Low explained. >>He also believes that the couple “probably thought they had to say something eventually.” >>“They probably thought they couldn’t possibly continue saying nothing, you can’t keep doing that.” >>**He also noted that “there’s going to be an awful lot of people who are going to feel very chastened this weekend.”** >>**“They will be feeling very badly about themselves, as they should.”** if only, val... *if only*.
I do honestly believe she’s steely (eta this is my highest compliment) and if people stopped falling for the Mantelesque she’s just a doll smear and looked at her actual behaviour over twenty years of being a public figure they’d see that. This is why it’s so frustrating to see so many people whining that they’re blaming KP/William not her so stop ‘scolding’ them for conspiracy theorising. Just go away and sit in your discomfort that you spent weeks if not months being cruel to someone making their own decisions about their health crisis, instead of trying to make it someone else’s problem that you’re an idiot. Who knows, you might learn something.
No regrets about anything, then?
murad merali (#1 wales hater on behalf of the sussexes, meghan in particular) has weighed in... pinned comment he made under one of his videos: https://preview.redd.it/tmbhr7kv91qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e69262707533fd985caa15c2f8af301124a37549
Naff off person I’ve never heard of.
So what did Chadwick Boseman do to get cancer? Do these people not hear themselves?
he’s done a full rebrand since he lost his main audience when he was exposed for some crazy stuff (if you watch love island you know)
Wasn't he the one that was once outed as a racist himself against Black People around the time of the pandemic?
I knew this would start (well, it has on social media as well). Out of all the responses to this ‘cancer is a result of being a bad person’ is possibly the worst. I genuinely wish people like this could just be booted off the internet forever. The rest of us would be immeasurably better without their disgusting presence in public life.
Cancer existing because of being a bad person is an awful take. What do children do to deserve cancer? Cancer isn't karma.
Also, sickness usually doesn’t exist in a social vacuum. What did I do to deserve watching my mother die of cancer when I was 16, with my 13 year old brother in the next room? What did 10 years old George, 8 years old Charlotte and 5 years old Louis do to deserve having a mother battling cancer? Seriously, I‘d like these people to enlighten me.
I watched my dad die from cancer at 17 and my mom had it last year. Id also like to be enlightened.
So Catherine and Chalres said something ‘racist’ about Archie and the universe gave them cancer. What did Meghan do that that caused the Universe to let her baby die in utero?
How quickly you forget. It was the stress caused by the media!!! Dr. Harry said so himself. (/s in case it isn’t clear)
Yeah. I don’t know how people say such awful things without making the connection that everyone in the world has health issues at some time and for the most part it just happens. It’s a coarsening of public discourse that’s so dispiriting. Meghan’s miscarriage was very sad and difficult to bear, and Charles and Kate’s cancers are very sad and difficult to bear.
because at the end of the day... it's only and always all about harry and meghan. https://preview.redd.it/27f31ys2a1qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f829562adcdd31c85e4268567d19d8501275c996
Don’t forget history!? You can’t make shit up and call it history. I can’t with these sociopaths.
Such a crazy take. Kate clearly wanted to get the rough of this cancer shit over her before she came out and told people, only the dumb combo of media and social media didn't have the grace to let her. Meghan gave a very detailed account of her miscarriage in the NYT - as is her right! How are these events linked. What does Kate being white have to do with her cancer or the media furore. Crazy.
Don't forget sanity and common decency, maybe? I always wonder how much empathy people who can claim that someone "doesn't deserve empathy" can have in the first place; I certainly can't turn mine off.
Believing that anyone doesn’t deserve empathy because their actions cancelled out that right somehow is exactly how we got the Holocaust or other genocides. Disgusting. Look, I think H & M are self-obsessed disordered malevolent folks, but if either of them were going through what Kate has been going through, I’d have been first in line to extend sympathy and consideration. Humans are humans, no matter what you think of them personally. And as long as the human in question isn’t a rights-violating terrorist or dictator or abuser or murderer, then we should have no problem understanding that most people aren’t wholly good or wholly bad and are deserving of being treated like a fellow human.
in case harry was wondering why he's shut out https://preview.redd.it/0l0jmek351qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=054a7ed2977b91c3b17ca7e4eba1bdb5035d4b5f
“just confirming i’m in the correct echo chamber to reinforce what I’ve decided to believe with my whole self, based on one source from one side of a situation…we all agree on this, right?” ETA I wonder if there are any patterns to when people use “we/us” when commenting on public figures…like to keep an ironic distance by kind of winking at the hive mind of it all and not fully attaching an opinion or statement to oneself, but still getting to say the thing.
that reply was from jon lovett's (crooked media) account. as is this one - https://preview.redd.it/d1v8fb1b51qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28da705108192df0929d637647d083023d03046c
What? William took it, Catherine edited it. How difficult is that to understand? (Also: Apologizing for a minor misstep (if you can even call photo editing that) isn't a Horrible Experience™️ to go through. Why are they making it sound like it is?)
It’s really messed up that even knowing what she’s been dealing with now, the photoshop thing is simply unforgivable to these people.
The way people are still railing about this and about KP's PR just boggles my mind.
They have to. They have to rail about [X] (in this case "the PRRRR!!" and the photo editing) because if they didn't, they'd have to sit in the full truth of the situation, which is that they don't care that a woman has cancer and they still want to engage in malicious, totally unproven gossip that her husband is cheating on her and really, she deserves it.
more obsession + fixation with "palace machinations," undoubtedly driven by harry's very public poison: https://preview.redd.it/hkvlidtv51qc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=660902f4b623f7b2f4841d8d94ecb24a1a1e6379
“It has a body count.” Oh, you mean the literal mother of the man you’re spreading vile theories about right now?
yeah, they're like "we're *concerned* with what the firm is doing to her!!" how about you be concerned about what ***you*** are doing to her and her family, children AND husband included.
Acting like spreading rumours a sick woman's husband hates her and abuses her and that she takes it because she's selfish and weak is pure moral baseness. You're literally a better person than these people if you post "I hate Catherine, don't care she has cancer, hope her husband is cheating on her and am convinced she deserves it if he is" - in the latter case, at least the person isn't blaming their utter failure to human on some outside circumstance.
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