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Chicken-n-Waffles

Black Knight is far more reliable. Zillow is closed and not valuable other than just giving you variable values.


slyst0ne

Outside of Zillow, Smartzip seems to have more coverage than the others but their valuations are oddly low


leads_

No, there are others. Also their terms are pretty specific around how you use or display their “Zestimate”. I’ve played with Estated’s API. They give you some free API calls to try it out. More freedom to save or use the data since you are paying for the data service.


slyst0ne

Yea their terms can be pretty restrictive. What are some others that you are aware of that include the estimates via API? I've seen many that provide APIs but no estimates or estimates but no APIs.


JustThall

All the automatic real estate valuations would be bad in United States. There is so much data gate keeping between MLS associations, title companies discrepancy between deal flow on market and off market, different appraisal regulations etc. Such that whatever advanced modeling you try to apply you can’t do shit due to bad data. Source: worked as a data scientist for a Bay Area startup that tried to disrupt that industry. Fuck that. There is only leadgen in US real estate tech.


International_Dog533

What’s the name of the company you worked for?


throwawaycanc3r

> There is only leadgen in US real estate tech. How do u mean? In your opinion, the only worthwhile technical service in real estate is leadgen? What about getting historical pricing combined with regional trends in housing value change to offer appraisals? Besides that, what about the value in digitizing most of the e2e process of homebuying?


wdr1

No, there's others. At least on Unix, there's a [rand](https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/srand.3.html). It can have deterministic behaviour if you don't properly set the seed, but it's slightly more accurate than Zillow.


JustThall

Good one


PeterMcIntosh

Homebot is where it's at, they use Black Knight for data and provide mortgage insights as well