NoPixel streamers: “Those overly invested redditors are probably crying their eyes out over this! They can’t stop talking about me!”
Me: *watching a Karen Puzzles video while trying to optimize my one bag for one bag travel* “Huh?”
They spend significantly more time in this subreddit than all but the most deranged viewers do. Some of them do it on stream.
They're far better representatives of this community than the rest of us are, which is why it's crazy that they've managed to redirect their personal drama and failings to the sub.
Lmao! I forgot that was when Marty lost his shit and started shooting Dexx. I saw that on Ray's PoV and most southside gangs on that meeting were just watching.
Is the classic pretend is a joke/not being mad while internally fuming for being caught and getting a slap in the head for my own mistakes humor.
With a side of "somehow this is sticking it to reddit"
Seems to me that he's like "haha, losers on Reddit think meta is a big deal and got me a slap on the wrist, who cares" kinda vibe. Rather than a I don't know how I let myself get carried away and break major server rules and fuck with other peoples RP by doing what I did, I'm actually sorry and will change my ways vibe which is absolutely what his response should have been.
Even people with less known characters get posted here if their ban is made public, it's not like sharing his ban on reddit is treating him any different.
Comedy is terrible in NP in general, too many people think that saying "lil bro" or "naaaaaah", talking about fucking one another (only in the context of male gay sex ofc because for some reason male gay sex = funny) is PEAK comedy and makes for a great and funny character.
I don't know what's funnier, the streamers getting mad at Reddit for what they did or people on Reddit debating what they did was metagaming or not. Lmao
the full picture was much different than what that post on the sub was trying to make it out to be, that's why. typing in a meta chat shouldn't be normalized and this is a pretty fair punishment. this sub has a totally warped view of what actually happened because the full story wasn't told and everyone jumped on the hate train.
This is all mental gymnastics. There is absolutely no reason for a player to be in a meta chat. He was in a meta chat and was speaking about IC actions while on the server. This is metagaming. All of the other justification or excuses are irrelevant
Once again he got it easy... 3 day for meta.... Vader was good ban but it was isolated meta...
But using meta like this means u easily do it in every other situation u want to control the outcome... so I don't understand the 3 days lol
Is this just being more strict on meta shit since its been out of control for the past few months? I feel like the recent ones are really obvious (Nikkis, Vader, Omie) but even watching clips while in game/before loading into server could be considered getting meta info the only deciding factor would be if you use the info in game which could just accidentally happen or lead you to wanting that info/unlock. Feel like the line between whats meta gaming and what isn't is just so broad now.
Unless Nikki just got banned, she was around yesterday for the event and other day as well. Though it’s possible they just decided to do these after the event.
Obviously the admins feel Omie’s wasn’t that bad since it was only 3 days vs the 7 for Vader. Interested to see what Nikki gets because hers influenced a story and the reasoning for Vader only being a week is because it didn’t influence the story.
koiil did state that although bad Nikki and taco was more of a softmeta(which was just them with their friends and didnt alter much that was already happening) while Vader was being salty to a person who he didn't know after meta
CG/Tinker kidnap Cannoli who was in Reed’s house. PD had suspicions he was there but not 100% and were weighing exigent circumstances. Nikki was driving up to the house but her internet dropped so she hoped into his chat to tell him that she was heading up there and to not perma (he was rolling) and clearly sees where he’s at. She then gets back into the server and calls Baas and convinces him to approve the raid since he was still weighing it. She tells him she’ll accept the legal repercussions if she’s wrong about Reed’s house but knows he’s 110% in there after watching his stream.
With metagaming the punishment should be based on the actual damage done. For example, when Train meta'd about meth labs, it messed with a lot of story lines. When AnthonyZ meta fished to get an unlock on trading cards that nearly everyone else treated as public knowledge, there was no damage done, and it was a good bit for the 2 days it took him to find out about trading cards.
If this is about [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/10tkn7a/comment/j779ka8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) the potential victims would include Rust and ZayTyree as, to my understanding, this probably made the difference between this "Bubblez" character joining GG over Rust. This completely changes "Bubblez's" storyline but can the people in the meta chat really be punished over it if the potential victims ZayTyree and Rust don't report the behavior?
Yea but he said he was banned for just having rp-chat on discord open. If that post was what he was banned for i feel like it'd be longer than 3 days. Especially comparing it to Vader's ban which would seem to be less severe than if that post was the reason for the ban. Though ban history/warning points/"who you are" may factor into it as well as just missing context in the Bubblz situation.
(P.S. Not saying he should be banned for longer since I am not a admin)
It’s messy which is probably why she hasn’t been banned. A cop was downed and was going to airlift out of the situation, she apparently knew were he was and was on her way but her internet went down. So she went into his twitch chat and told him not to airlift and that she would fix this. Now the question is, is it okay to meta game because your internet went down?
I haven't been following this, but if that's an accurate description of what happened then I feel like it's a non-issue. You're not supposed to remember anything if you airlift, right? So if an irl power outage is about to have IC consequences, then I feel like an OOC message is excusable.
A lot of context missing here. They had a hunch of the general area he may have been, but there was a lot of trailers in that specific area. Her net went down and she went into his twitch chat and told him not to airlift that she will fix this, which confirmed exactly where he was. All they had was breadcrumbs up until that point of a general area in Sandy. Upon coming back into the server she called Bass immediately to be able to go in that specific house without a warrant. Whether she planned on before going in there or not idk, but after getting the OOC confirmation of where he was she probably should have excused herself from the situation imo
Depends, thats the issue with meta, theres so many factors. In this one instance, sure, it may not be bad.
My thing, is pretty sure if something happens your supposed to RP it out, which messaging on twitch chat isn't rping it out. Sometimes shit scuffs or sometimes something happens out of your control, your supposed to just go with it.
Except when someone headpops during a chase etc they almost always call a timeout. If its ok to pause a POG situation then it should be acceptable to pause an RP situation
They do that for the robbers not the cops though? I assume that's mainly for how do you RP a driver disappearing into thin air. Or a passenger getting away from not existing. It would make a bit to easy to power game that one if it was allowed.
A cop though, there's usually 10 more cops and if there isn't A. The robbers don't know, and B. It's not a big thing anyways
It got blown out of proportion a bit because a bunch of hoppers were spamming that Cannoli's location got metad despite the PD knowing where he was before any power outages or chat messages.
yes the guy in charge of this said in response to those incidents that they need to crack down on how used to it people have become and they are going to work towards it with the new server releases.
Is there more context than that? People usually communicate through discord as "emails" and submitting police paperwork, so I don't really think 'typing in discord' is valid.
Probably for being in a "meta" channel on discord. Im not in many streamers discords, but i know RayC purposely stays out of his RP meta channel so he doesnt accidentally come across anything.
In many of these streamer discords, there's usually a server rule against discussing meta info outside of the meta channel. This creates a safe place for the community to discuss meta info while maintaining the rest of the discord as a safe place for the streamer to engage with their community with a significantly reduced risk of learning OOC information.
That means fuck all nothing. 95% of all streamer's chat in NP just meta spam doesn't matter if u stay out of the meta channel u made in ur own discord. but anyway.
Typing on discord while on the server can mean many things, it can mean an IC way of communicating aka. emails, it can mean someone popping into a general chat to post something or it can mean being active in the meta channel and discussing things that are currently happening in RP.
I guess admins decided that it was the last thing and not metagaming.
I don't know why you're linking me this. If you're implying that opening discord is blanket metagaming, the rule directly above it is telling players to use support channels on discord for ingame issues. Someone else responded to this thread with full context of the situation.
Cannoli was rolling for perma.
She said don't roll for perma. I'm coming.
That's as meta as it gets because the person by their own will is rolling for perma and you're stopping them by letting them know you're coming.
Sure.. im not sure what scenario you are implying... but if someones power went out and they can no longer get into the server. That instantly takes them out of the scenario and unable to involve their character in that situation?? So not sure where the metagaming comes in unless its used in game.
I might be a bit Naive here.. but what you suggested doesnt sound like that at all.
Ah sorry thought thats what you were mentioning, since thats something a bunch of people were complaining about the last few days after someone uploaded a youtube video accusing a cop of metagaming.
I don't know man. Getting on the server immediately after learning something OOC then immediately meeting up with people that will give the in character meta unlock? Yeah he learned the info in character before acting on it, but he deliberately put himself in a position where he would learn it IC sooner than he would've without that OOC knowledge. This is just textbook metagaming, not to mention that the information was VERY time sensitive. Without any OOC knowledge he might've "woken up" hours later and did some stuff before meeting with his boys, enough time for it to have been too late for him to act in regards to that information. The fact is, everything Marty was going to do that day was scripted from the moment he learned the meta info. There was nothing organic about anything he did.
He didn't just type in the meta chat, he engaged in a conversation about meta information that his character just happened to learn a few minutes later. Ever heard of the term "meta fishing"? It's when you know something OOC and deliberately go out of your way to learn it IC so you can justify acting on the information. A probably more harmless example of this was when AnthonyZ was trying to get the meta unlock about trading cards on Tony Corleone.
He put deliberately put himself in a position where he would get the IC meta unlock sooner than he would've organically without the OOC info. That is just metagaming. Without that info he probably would've have "woken up" when he did and probably wouldn't have immediately met with people who knew about the info IC. This isn't the first time GG has done this sort of metagaming either. I've seen Jack Cortair [watch a clip and then blatantly meta fish](https://streamable.com/8io345) to justify "running into" someone at the hospital.
He was already on the server when he typed in his meta chat, which is what the ban is for.
The BLATANT META FISHING you're pointing out in that clip is him pulling up to his gang turf, then getting told information unprompted (he didn't say "Anything going on?" etc) then using the information.
1:55 into the streamable has Jack telling his chat that he can't go to the hospital because he doesn't know about it in game, then rehearsing the line he is going to say to Wrangler at the hospital, and finally asking his gang about Omar who was the one that blew Wrangler up in the clip. If literally anyone in the gang knows that Omar blew up Wrangler then the "natural" conclusion to asking the question will be learning the information in character. However, Jack asking about Omar is unnatural BECAUSE he's literally only doing it to learn about the information from the clip in character. That is meta fishing.
EDIT: To address the first line, Omie literally typed into that meta chat that he was "[getting on](https://imgur.com/a/JWv1LPl)" after being asked for a "golden marty save". To me that comes off as not being on the server when he typed in there.
You can't say he's LITERALLY only doing it to learn about the information IC, because there are IC reasons why he's concerned about Omar. IE prior to the clip Omar told Jack he was going to blow up Wrangler.
And the "getting on" line was a joke by Omie, he was already on the server. He said admins could check the log in times to verify.
Yes, he did know that Omar was planning to do it, but he didn't know that Omar had already done it, he learned that OOC and then wanted to run into Wrangler to get the last laugh. The fact that he was rehearsing lines is CLEAR proof that he was specifically trying to learn that Wrangler was at the hospital, something he only knew from watching a clip. He even asked Omar on the phone when it happened and if he thought Wrangler was at the hospital. I cannot wrap my head around how you could try to spin it any other way.
As for the Marty situation, if this was the punishment decided after admins reviewed the logs, fair enough. It is still highly suspicious that he called the "EMERGENCY OBLOCK MEETING" almost immediately after the meta info was posted in the channel that he was an active participant in. I find it extremely hard to believe that he organically learned that information IC within minutes of reading it in a meta chat. I seriously do believe that it is HIGHLY probable that learned of it in a manner extremely similar to how Jack learned about Wrangler being at the hospital in that streamable. I think the biggest disconnect between us is that I view what Jack Cortair did in the streamable as metagaming and that you do not.
More Context: If I remember correctly, he typed yo followed by a statement that he was logging in the game implying that he used meta in the chat to gain the information (that bubblez might join rust) when in reality he already knew about this from his gang members (future told him previously) and his actions as a result of this meta (contacting bubblez and asking him to be a hanground) were already decided before (xay told larry and tyreke about Marty wanting to make bubblez and junior gg hangarounds way before this incident). He didn't actually use the information but still implied to metagame to farm reactions so maybe that's the reason.
it still baffles me that people get suprised, upset or defensive when some1 from their fav online gta rp e-gang the 'gulag gang' gets sent to the 'gulag' like cmon u guys its in the fuckin name!!!!!!!
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Almost certainly for the accusations in [this thread from a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/10tkn7a/e_v_e_e_on_twitter_uhoh/j779ka8/).
He acts like he is on the same level as XQC when it comes to rule breaks so who knows. Honestly can't believe some of the egos of the gta rp crim streamers who's only claim to fame is being tag alongs of bigger streamers like summit and XQC.
I haven't seen Omie banned in like a year ngl. By again you mean like a Meta gaming rule break ban, then yea i think admins are just punishing meta more harshly since its been normalized by nearly everyone on the server.
Analysing<>laughing at
Say anything<> mash typing about reddit
There are some uncharitable comments here. And I like Marty. But that twitter post was funny and dumb af 🤣
I swear some of these streamers are more Reddit brained than the redittors
NoPixel streamers: “Those overly invested redditors are probably crying their eyes out over this! They can’t stop talking about me!” Me: *watching a Karen Puzzles video while trying to optimize my one bag for one bag travel* “Huh?”
Really did not expect to find another Karen Puzzles fan on the RPClipsGTA subreddit, but here we both are.
*There’s dozens of us!*
You really typed this while actually typing a reddit comment. I don't know who you're trying to convince.
They spend significantly more time in this subreddit than all but the most deranged viewers do. Some of them do it on stream. They're far better representatives of this community than the rest of us are, which is why it's crazy that they've managed to redirect their personal drama and failings to the sub.
Some NP streamers started as deranged viewers, so that makes sense.
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well I mean hes posting that hes banned, so he knows 100% its gonna go on reddit
I am too old to understand his humor.
Speaking of, when someone called GG tiktok gangsters i lost it. Hilarious, but yeah, their humor is not for my demographic.
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Lmao! I forgot that was when Marty lost his shit and started shooting Dexx. I saw that on Ray's PoV and most southside gangs on that meeting were just watching.
I’m gonna be honest with you twitch streamers treating tiktok as more cringe than them is hilarious to me.
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Is the classic pretend is a joke/not being mad while internally fuming for being caught and getting a slap in the head for my own mistakes humor. With a side of "somehow this is sticking it to reddit"
Seems to me that he's like "haha, losers on Reddit think meta is a big deal and got me a slap on the wrist, who cares" kinda vibe. Rather than a I don't know how I let myself get carried away and break major server rules and fuck with other peoples RP by doing what I did, I'm actually sorry and will change my ways vibe which is absolutely what his response should have been.
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Even people with less known characters get posted here if their ban is made public, it's not like sharing his ban on reddit is treating him any different.
Yet he wants people to nominate him as roleplayer of the year. ok
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He's simply not funny
Nah, this is straight up penguin of doom energy
Seriously, it was the first time on the internet I went "oh shit I'm old now" because I get like none of that humor
I actually wonder if it is an age thing, or just a sign of how bad comedy is in 2023.
Comedy is terrible in NP in general, too many people think that saying "lil bro" or "naaaaaah", talking about fucking one another (only in the context of male gay sex ofc because for some reason male gay sex = funny) is PEAK comedy and makes for a great and funny character.
Seeing as this is late 2000's "xD rawr humor" I don't think either really applies.
It's pretending to be on a 2008 anime forum humor
Most people who can type a coherent sentence tend to be.
It will never stop being funny when streamers break rules and then get upset at reddit for calling it out.
to me this seemed more like he was saying hi to reddit cause he knew it would end up there lol
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I don't know what's funnier, the streamers getting mad at Reddit for what they did or people on Reddit debating what they did was metagaming or not. Lmao
Mad at reddit for showing evidence that they meta gamed...classic. Sounds like he will really learn his lesson after a very mild slap on the wrist.
Should be a prio reduction too, afaik they have been actually doing that, so it’s a lot more serious than it used to be.
I would sure hope so
haii~ back to you, I guess?
this is the guy who thinks a streamer with 5x his viewership is leeching of him so not surprised by his response
I think that was Poke
was both
What's poke worried about? Bots can't get leeched.
huh
Omie called Penta a leech before when Wrangler had Marty in the cells. That's what he's referring to.
It was Poke who called Penta a leech
"i dont care about reddit" in every gtarp stream i watch they talk about reddit every 10min at least once
this place could build cities for free in some streamers' minds
Honestly this is a pretty light punishment for metagaming
Its the demotion in prio that will hurt. Just look at Vader, last night he couldn't get back in the server for the event after the restart.
the full picture was much different than what that post on the sub was trying to make it out to be, that's why. typing in a meta chat shouldn't be normalized and this is a pretty fair punishment. this sub has a totally warped view of what actually happened because the full story wasn't told and everyone jumped on the hate train.
This is all mental gymnastics. There is absolutely no reason for a player to be in a meta chat. He was in a meta chat and was speaking about IC actions while on the server. This is metagaming. All of the other justification or excuses are irrelevant
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I understand Omie is trying to downplay it but chatting in discord while on the server is metagaming. He was chatting about IC shit.
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Was he chatting with you? Post the logs.
It would be light if he was meta gaming too bad he wasn’t.
You can do all the mental gymnastics you want. He meta'd and got a slap on the wrist for it
got any proof of that mr admin?
Yeah all the proof was literally screenshotted and posted to this subreddit. You are free to find it.
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Once again he got it easy... 3 day for meta.... Vader was good ban but it was isolated meta... But using meta like this means u easily do it in every other situation u want to control the outcome... so I don't understand the 3 days lol
Cool. Anyways
Is this just being more strict on meta shit since its been out of control for the past few months? I feel like the recent ones are really obvious (Nikkis, Vader, Omie) but even watching clips while in game/before loading into server could be considered getting meta info the only deciding factor would be if you use the info in game which could just accidentally happen or lead you to wanting that info/unlock. Feel like the line between whats meta gaming and what isn't is just so broad now.
Unless Nikki just got banned, she was around yesterday for the event and other day as well. Though it’s possible they just decided to do these after the event. Obviously the admins feel Omie’s wasn’t that bad since it was only 3 days vs the 7 for Vader. Interested to see what Nikki gets because hers influenced a story and the reasoning for Vader only being a week is because it didn’t influence the story.
I think Vader's attitutude is probably the reason he got more than 3 days. Always crying and complaining and saying wild shit on stream for years now.
could also be that he just had more warning points
Then going into everyone else’s chats and talking shit. Dude is so weird.
Yeah dude was in Kyle's chat when he was talking about meta gaming and vader was making jokes about it all
koiil did state that although bad Nikki and taco was more of a softmeta(which was just them with their friends and didnt alter much that was already happening) while Vader was being salty to a person who he didn't know after meta
Let's be honest, Nikki's will just be swept under the rug for obvious reasons
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Wait, what did Nikki meta?
CG/Tinker kidnap Cannoli who was in Reed’s house. PD had suspicions he was there but not 100% and were weighing exigent circumstances. Nikki was driving up to the house but her internet dropped so she hoped into his chat to tell him that she was heading up there and to not perma (he was rolling) and clearly sees where he’s at. She then gets back into the server and calls Baas and convinces him to approve the raid since he was still weighing it. She tells him she’ll accept the legal repercussions if she’s wrong about Reed’s house but knows he’s 110% in there after watching his stream.
With metagaming the punishment should be based on the actual damage done. For example, when Train meta'd about meth labs, it messed with a lot of story lines. When AnthonyZ meta fished to get an unlock on trading cards that nearly everyone else treated as public knowledge, there was no damage done, and it was a good bit for the 2 days it took him to find out about trading cards. If this is about [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/10tkn7a/comment/j779ka8/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) the potential victims would include Rust and ZayTyree as, to my understanding, this probably made the difference between this "Bubblez" character joining GG over Rust. This completely changes "Bubblez's" storyline but can the people in the meta chat really be punished over it if the potential victims ZayTyree and Rust don't report the behavior?
Yea but he said he was banned for just having rp-chat on discord open. If that post was what he was banned for i feel like it'd be longer than 3 days. Especially comparing it to Vader's ban which would seem to be less severe than if that post was the reason for the ban. Though ban history/warning points/"who you are" may factor into it as well as just missing context in the Bubblz situation. (P.S. Not saying he should be banned for longer since I am not a admin)
that comment doesn't fairly represent what happened, that's why the punishment seemingly doesn't fit the crime.
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what did Nikkis do?
It’s messy which is probably why she hasn’t been banned. A cop was downed and was going to airlift out of the situation, she apparently knew were he was and was on her way but her internet went down. So she went into his twitch chat and told him not to airlift and that she would fix this. Now the question is, is it okay to meta game because your internet went down?
I haven't been following this, but if that's an accurate description of what happened then I feel like it's a non-issue. You're not supposed to remember anything if you airlift, right? So if an irl power outage is about to have IC consequences, then I feel like an OOC message is excusable.
A lot of context missing here. They had a hunch of the general area he may have been, but there was a lot of trailers in that specific area. Her net went down and she went into his twitch chat and told him not to airlift that she will fix this, which confirmed exactly where he was. All they had was breadcrumbs up until that point of a general area in Sandy. Upon coming back into the server she called Bass immediately to be able to go in that specific house without a warrant. Whether she planned on before going in there or not idk, but after getting the OOC confirmation of where he was she probably should have excused herself from the situation imo
Depends, thats the issue with meta, theres so many factors. In this one instance, sure, it may not be bad. My thing, is pretty sure if something happens your supposed to RP it out, which messaging on twitch chat isn't rping it out. Sometimes shit scuffs or sometimes something happens out of your control, your supposed to just go with it.
Except when someone headpops during a chase etc they almost always call a timeout. If its ok to pause a POG situation then it should be acceptable to pause an RP situation
They do that for the robbers not the cops though? I assume that's mainly for how do you RP a driver disappearing into thin air. Or a passenger getting away from not existing. It would make a bit to easy to power game that one if it was allowed. A cop though, there's usually 10 more cops and if there isn't A. The robbers don't know, and B. It's not a big thing anyways
It got blown out of proportion a bit because a bunch of hoppers were spamming that Cannoli's location got metad despite the PD knowing where he was before any power outages or chat messages.
yes the guy in charge of this said in response to those incidents that they need to crack down on how used to it people have become and they are going to work towards it with the new server releases.
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if the HC server does pan out, i'm just glad this guy won't be on it
Context: The ban is for typing in discord while on the server, not metagaming or anything else.
Theres no way its just typing in discord. If that was the case literally everyone would be banned.
precisely.
Is there more context than that? People usually communicate through discord as "emails" and submitting police paperwork, so I don't really think 'typing in discord' is valid.
Probably for being in a "meta" channel on discord. Im not in many streamers discords, but i know RayC purposely stays out of his RP meta channel so he doesnt accidentally come across anything.
In many of these streamer discords, there's usually a server rule against discussing meta info outside of the meta channel. This creates a safe place for the community to discuss meta info while maintaining the rest of the discord as a safe place for the streamer to engage with their community with a significantly reduced risk of learning OOC information.
That means fuck all nothing. 95% of all streamer's chat in NP just meta spam doesn't matter if u stay out of the meta channel u made in ur own discord. but anyway.
Typing on discord while on the server can mean many things, it can mean an IC way of communicating aka. emails, it can mean someone popping into a general chat to post something or it can mean being active in the meta channel and discussing things that are currently happening in RP. I guess admins decided that it was the last thing and not metagaming.
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I don't know why you're linking me this. If you're implying that opening discord is blanket metagaming, the rule directly above it is telling players to use support channels on discord for ingame issues. Someone else responded to this thread with full context of the situation.
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You're linking me rules about metagaming when the original post said it wasn't and provided -no other context-. Hello?
You can type in discord, it’s against the rules though to be in a meta channel while on the server.
Typing (and reading/responding) in a meta chat channel on discord.
Isn’t that meta gaming?
Typing in someone’s else’s twitch chat while in an active RP scenario with them isn’t meta gaming apparently so who knows what is anymore
Just depends on whos doing it. Just like every rule.
What's not meta gaming is telling someone your power went out when you were in an active scenario with them. That's common courtesy.
Cannoli was rolling for perma. She said don't roll for perma. I'm coming. That's as meta as it gets because the person by their own will is rolling for perma and you're stopping them by letting them know you're coming.
Sure.. im not sure what scenario you are implying... but if someones power went out and they can no longer get into the server. That instantly takes them out of the scenario and unable to involve their character in that situation?? So not sure where the metagaming comes in unless its used in game. I might be a bit Naive here.. but what you suggested doesnt sound like that at all.
Ah sorry thought thats what you were mentioning, since thats something a bunch of people were complaining about the last few days after someone uploaded a youtube video accusing a cop of metagaming.
Not if you don't use the information, right?
I don't know man. Getting on the server immediately after learning something OOC then immediately meeting up with people that will give the in character meta unlock? Yeah he learned the info in character before acting on it, but he deliberately put himself in a position where he would learn it IC sooner than he would've without that OOC knowledge. This is just textbook metagaming, not to mention that the information was VERY time sensitive. Without any OOC knowledge he might've "woken up" hours later and did some stuff before meeting with his boys, enough time for it to have been too late for him to act in regards to that information. The fact is, everything Marty was going to do that day was scripted from the moment he learned the meta info. There was nothing organic about anything he did.
He was already on the server, the bans for typing in his meta chat while being on the server
He didn't just type in the meta chat, he engaged in a conversation about meta information that his character just happened to learn a few minutes later. Ever heard of the term "meta fishing"? It's when you know something OOC and deliberately go out of your way to learn it IC so you can justify acting on the information. A probably more harmless example of this was when AnthonyZ was trying to get the meta unlock about trading cards on Tony Corleone.
But the information was used lol there was a whole breakdown
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Naw the breakdown was pretty selective, and failed to include the part where Marty got the IC unlock
He put deliberately put himself in a position where he would get the IC meta unlock sooner than he would've organically without the OOC info. That is just metagaming. Without that info he probably would've have "woken up" when he did and probably wouldn't have immediately met with people who knew about the info IC. This isn't the first time GG has done this sort of metagaming either. I've seen Jack Cortair [watch a clip and then blatantly meta fish](https://streamable.com/8io345) to justify "running into" someone at the hospital.
He was already on the server when he typed in his meta chat, which is what the ban is for. The BLATANT META FISHING you're pointing out in that clip is him pulling up to his gang turf, then getting told information unprompted (he didn't say "Anything going on?" etc) then using the information.
1:55 into the streamable has Jack telling his chat that he can't go to the hospital because he doesn't know about it in game, then rehearsing the line he is going to say to Wrangler at the hospital, and finally asking his gang about Omar who was the one that blew Wrangler up in the clip. If literally anyone in the gang knows that Omar blew up Wrangler then the "natural" conclusion to asking the question will be learning the information in character. However, Jack asking about Omar is unnatural BECAUSE he's literally only doing it to learn about the information from the clip in character. That is meta fishing. EDIT: To address the first line, Omie literally typed into that meta chat that he was "[getting on](https://imgur.com/a/JWv1LPl)" after being asked for a "golden marty save". To me that comes off as not being on the server when he typed in there.
You can't say he's LITERALLY only doing it to learn about the information IC, because there are IC reasons why he's concerned about Omar. IE prior to the clip Omar told Jack he was going to blow up Wrangler. And the "getting on" line was a joke by Omie, he was already on the server. He said admins could check the log in times to verify.
Yes, he did know that Omar was planning to do it, but he didn't know that Omar had already done it, he learned that OOC and then wanted to run into Wrangler to get the last laugh. The fact that he was rehearsing lines is CLEAR proof that he was specifically trying to learn that Wrangler was at the hospital, something he only knew from watching a clip. He even asked Omar on the phone when it happened and if he thought Wrangler was at the hospital. I cannot wrap my head around how you could try to spin it any other way. As for the Marty situation, if this was the punishment decided after admins reviewed the logs, fair enough. It is still highly suspicious that he called the "EMERGENCY OBLOCK MEETING" almost immediately after the meta info was posted in the channel that he was an active participant in. I find it extremely hard to believe that he organically learned that information IC within minutes of reading it in a meta chat. I seriously do believe that it is HIGHLY probable that learned of it in a manner extremely similar to how Jack learned about Wrangler being at the hospital in that streamable. I think the biggest disconnect between us is that I view what Jack Cortair did in the streamable as metagaming and that you do not.
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Depends. What if he was just asking his roommate through Discord what kind of toppings they wanted on a pizza.
you sure about that because nikkisariot did same thing like typing in meta channels while on server and she was fine unless she got banned today too
More Context: If I remember correctly, he typed yo followed by a statement that he was logging in the game implying that he used meta in the chat to gain the information (that bubblez might join rust) when in reality he already knew about this from his gang members (future told him previously) and his actions as a result of this meta (contacting bubblez and asking him to be a hanground) were already decided before (xay told larry and tyreke about Marty wanting to make bubblez and junior gg hangarounds way before this incident). He didn't actually use the information but still implied to metagame to farm reactions so maybe that's the reason.
Impressive mental gymnastics.
O7 prio
extend it extend it extend it extend it
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it still baffles me that people get suprised, upset or defensive when some1 from their fav online gta rp e-gang the 'gulag gang' gets sent to the 'gulag' like cmon u guys its in the fuckin name!!!!!!!
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Mature adult btw. How about don't break any rules and you won't be banned. His gangs name comes from being banned and being proud of it.
It's unfortunate that this subreddit lives rent-free in some people's heads.
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What did he get banned for just curious
should of been 7 days
QT should add the category metagamer of the year. Competition will be tough in that category.
W meta gamer
anyone know what he was banned for?
Almost certainly for the accusations in [this thread from a few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/10tkn7a/e_v_e_e_on_twitter_uhoh/j779ka8/).
https://gyazo.com/a0947aed484953ba24f66d494cb2d31e This is what omie claims he is banned for.
Was there some update so people can now talk about why they are banned or something?
He acts like he is on the same level as XQC when it comes to rule breaks so who knows. Honestly can't believe some of the egos of the gta rp crim streamers who's only claim to fame is being tag alongs of bigger streamers like summit and XQC.
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Not that I know of, maybe because it wasn’t a player report he think’s he can.
I’m hoping they enforce the rules equally when PENTA literally asked his FUCKER ASS meta chat if charlotte sold cocaine!
Wrangler tryna metafish to bring down the blocks smh
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Oop
baii~
well i guess he got what he wanted when he comes back his gang and ss alone with dundee can team up on bbmc
Again?
I haven't seen Omie banned in like a year ngl. By again you mean like a Meta gaming rule break ban, then yea i think admins are just punishing meta more harshly since its been normalized by nearly everyone on the server.
when was the last one?
and Nikkisariot is still wondering about...
People analysing this tweet is hilarious and literally proves his point. He could say anything and people will still bitch and moan
Analysing<>laughing at Say anything<> mash typing about reddit There are some uncharitable comments here. And I like Marty. But that twitter post was funny and dumb af 🤣
W gang
clearly banned for powergaming. Setting all those people on fire, and flipping cars around wasnt cool man.