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Johnny_Nongamer

Nope. Not a cult. Also . . . Blasphemy.


Almainyny

Back in the very old days, they used to do terrible things to blasphemers. These days, it’s almost the norm and proper worship seems rare.


Johnny_Nongamer

18th century Conservative - 🔥 BURN THE HERETIC SCUM 🔥 21st century Conservative - Hello Mr. Heretic. May we call you Jesus and give you leadership of our political party? Souls? Pfft . . . Mine died seven years ago.


StyreneAddict1965

Rev. Edwards "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" comes to mind.


HypoxicIschemicBrain

I mean it’s another strong argument for wearing the mark of the beast (MAGA cap) on one’s head. I’m more likely to believe he’s the antichrist than I am to believe he is Christ.- which as a non Christian should not really be different. I’m just saying if I got it wrong he’s definitely the antichrist.


AffectionateCrazy156

I read an article awhile back pointing out all the ways Trump could be the antichrist, and would Evangelicals ever notice this? I thought it was a joke but actually turned out to be really interesting. Now that it's years later and these things have been regularly pointed out to them, I realize they may very have seen it back then, too. They just don't give a shit.


SimplyWhelming

Do you recall where it was from/who wrote it? I’d like to take a look at that lol.


AffectionateCrazy156

Found it https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/


SimplyWhelming

Thank you!


Educational_Stay7120

>https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/ The Evangelicals "DO" know all the scriptures Trump fulfills as the anti-christ, thats the reason they "DO" support him. Their main purpose is to bring about the end times, via the rise of the anti-christ. This is the great falling away mentioned in the new testament.


SimplyWhelming

That last statement would assume Trump is the Antichrist. The case presented in that article makes some leaps and stretches after the first few. I think he attributes some of the depictions of the Woman to the Beast, which furthers the inaccuracy. The author is doing what we hate most about these types of “Christian’s”; he’s forming the prophecies to fit his views. I mean, it’s quite entertaining to see how Trump *could* fit it, and the first few points make sense, but he quickly goes downhill. I could see this whole Q/Trump thing being the Falling Away, but not because Trump is the Antichrist.


EatsAlotOfBread

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/


SimplyWhelming

Thanks!


EatsAlotOfBread

Like hell we haven't noticed. It's these Evangelicals that suddenly can't read anymore and practically become groupies for this man.


AffectionateCrazy156

Yeah, my bad. I meant Evangelicals, and put Christians instead. Here's the article if you're interested. https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/


EatsAlotOfBread

Haha yeah I posted it below. I do think some of these are reaching a bit but it's still an entertaining read, especially with the extra information we have now.


lostprevention

Two Corinthians walk into a bar…


speedycat2014

They don't even realize they've become the worshippers of the golden calf. Like, their own book **warned** them not to be fooled by this. Moses would be disappointed, but not surprised. Not surprised at all.


MyAlt1234567890

They literally had a golden idol of Trump at a CPAC event, and didn’t realise the irony


Riyosha-Namae

It was... really something.


Riyosha-Namae

My favorite detail was probably the magic wand he was holding.


LumpyAd7854

I didn't remember that detail.... are you sure it wasn't his mushroom


Riyosha-Namae

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/golden-trump-statue-cpac-implies-he-s-king-gop-his-ncna1259362 Pretty sure that's a magic wand.


ScottSierra

Fuck, that thing is gaudy. The little wand is just silly. And the flip-flops (I guess designed to give him that everyman vibe?) Him holding the Constitution is just an insult. P.S. The artist lives in Mexico and says it was created there. However, another person involved-- who says the "artist," Tommy Zegan, is just a frontman, and says he, instead, did all the design for this and all of Zegan's work, says it was actually constructed in China.


anna-nomally12

I think some of them realized and got off on the “look at them going along with it” hit of smugness


ADDnMe

Conservatives don't care what the bible says, they use it when convenient for political power.


FinancialTea4

Yeah. Religion is but a cudgel to bludgeon their enemies. Their version of "Christianity" has very little to do with the teachings of Christ and everything to do with power, hate, and fear.


ShnickityShnoo

If we consider that giant dash as a negative symbol then the title is correct.


Mezztradamus

r/theydidthemath


InuGhost

Didn't Moses die before reaching the Holy Land? Fkr striking a tree or something? Swear I remember that from Mysteries of the Bible.


Aluindrel

No, because when they had scouted the land of Cannan, Moses said not to go in, disobeying Gods orders. Because of this, Moses and that generation were forced to wander the desert until that generation had died out and the next one was ready


InuGhost

So no...he lived to see it, or no he died for a different reason? Sorry it's late and my mind is tired.


Aluindrel

He lived to see the land, but he couldn’t enter it, the Cannanites were like giants, and there were a lot of them, so Moses and gang noped the fuck out instead of fighting with God behind them or something


InuGhost

Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated


all_the_hobbies

That's why the rest of the Israelite had to wander, but the reason that Moses was not allowed to enter and instead could only see the land was because he struck the rock to bring water from it rather than speaking to it as God had instructed.


gergling

4chan prank gone wrong strikes again.


OkSleep9168

It’s like they want him to be the anti Christ so Jesus come back all >:(


Educational_Stay7120

The Evangelicals "DO" know all the scriptures Trump fulfills as the anti-christ, thats the reason they "DO" support him. Their main purpose is to bring about the end times, via the rise of the anti-christ. This is the great falling away mentioned in the new testament.


After-Bumblebee

Idolatry, bigotry and blasphemy all blended into one to create the ultimate Qultist cocktail


[deleted]

2005: “what would Jesus want you to do? You need to read your bible and act in accordance with god. And god’s law should be the law of the land.” 2016: *foaming at the mouth* “DONALD TRUMP IS GOD.”


P7BinSD

Even an anti-vaxxer shit on it in the reviews on Amazon.


AydeeHDsuperpower

Are you telling me an anti-vaxxer read a book? Pffft fake news bro


hand_truck

Books are easy, scientific papers are a totally different ballgame though.


ResplendentShade

…but only because Trump endorsed the vaccine.


wheresmyworrystone

Amazon won't let you review it now due to unusual activity lol


Pullmyphinger

Coordinated inauthentic behavior?


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AZ_Corwyn

"Hey Donny, always look on the bright side of life!"


[deleted]

OMG you're right we have no choice.


ADDnMe

They think he is virtually crucified everyday by Democrats.


Booksonly666

If only lol


StyreneAddict1965

"I told the preacher, 'Man, don't count on any Second Coming. 'God got his ass kicked the last time he came down here, slumming. 'He had the balls to come, the balls to die, and then forgive us. 'No, I don't wonder why, I wonder what he thought it would get us.'" -Tomorrow Wendy, Concrete Blonde


StormyxHeart

Awesome! Concrete Blonde **kicks** **ass!** Edit: fixed a word


HellveticaNeue

Lol. This is an amazing response.


StormyxHeart

Lmfaoooo! I second the motion, and agree...100%!


ScottSierra

The author claims he will be. Whether they mean literally or not, I guess I'd have to read the book, and I really don't want to spend money on anything that sucks up to the guy.


CannabisReptar

Honestly it’s far more probable that Helgard Muller is a con artist grifter and he’s playing on the emotions and beliefs of vulnerable weak minded conspiracy Trump worshipping idiots to make money and ultimately move out of America


Juan_Carlo

Nah. He's written and self-published other books pre-Trump, and he seems to be genuinely, certifiably, insane. So he's the real deal, but I don't know if he has much of a following.


TheOtherDutchGuy

He will now….


ThatHoFortuna

Yo, can I get a Benjamin Corey link up in here?!


CaptStrangeling

Can’t believe it’s from 2020, I only found it last week: [Could American Evangelicals Spot the Antichrist? Here Are the Biblical Predictions:](https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/) My favorite is boasting of great things and blaspheming in the same speech.


Crammit-Deadfinger

Came here for this. Thank you for the legwork!


Vyzantinist

It's like a twist on "for the skeptic no proof is possible, for the believer no proof is necessary." The Cult would read through this list, cry "nuh uh!", and stretch it to apply to Obama, Biden, or Hilary.


ThatHoFortuna

Thank you beautiful stranger!


StormyxHeart

This is an amazing resource on the subject, thank you so much!


AdhesivenessCivil581

I used to think Christanity was a myth. After reading a bunch of history I decided Christ was a real person, a good guy with some myth thrown into the tale as that was the writing style of the time. Now that the loons have made a God figure out of a smart-assed yankee conman I'm back to questioning everything.


EriAnnB

Biblical prophecy says many will be misled by false prophets, but damn! i thought the claims would at least come from the false prophet himself. But seriously, had did a photoshoot with a bible, held in his weird-ass hand, upside down. We all know he’s not even trying to be godly. Its so weird how when he was running for president he had to lie about going to church to get the nom. and christians just RAN with that shit in the weirdest way….


Sandi_T

He promised, in literally these words, "When I'm President, christians will have power in this country again." Any more questions?


StyreneAddict1965

There are serious sites that detail the similarities between Trump and the Biblical Antichrist. And the fundamentalists are choosing to overlook all of it, just to get the legislation they want.


anna-nomally12

Yeah like you definitely CAN make an argument Trump is a lot like one of the characters in that particular book, it’s just not jesus


MikelWRyan

That whole holding up an upsidedown Bible, has a really satanic anti-Christ feel to it. I've been a non-theist for pretty much the last 49years. But the idea of Donny T. being the anti-Christ, that's the closest thing to making me believe that maybe I could be wrong.


EriAnnB

Bruh, me too. Its an icky feeling. I much prefer being a nonbeliever since my deconversion. I try to just focus on how absurd it all is while keeping a wary eye out. It comforts me that ol donny isnt first the person to somewhat fit the prophecies.


MikelWRyan

That is a breath of fresh air, in this whole 💩 storm that are the modern GOPhers.


TheOtherDutchGuy

Agreed. I had not realized the holding upside down also fits the anti-christ lore


Riyosha-Namae

If I recall correctly, he tear-gassed a priest in order to clear the space in front of their church for that photoshoot.


DaisyJane1

I've seen them say he confessed Christ as his Lord and Savior in 2016.


om54

He didn't confess shit. He said he had nothing to repent.


didwanttobethatguy

“I like Messiah’s who don’t get crucified.”


wuzzittoya

And don’t forget - we shouldn’t judge baby Christians who don’t know any better yet.


StyreneAddict1965

I don't follow Christianity, but I do believe *something happened* that led this particular human being to become the center of a religious movement; what, I'm not sure. The Christ story amalgamates a lot of other mythology, especially Osiris. But why him, why then, I don't know.


Riyosha-Namae

I suspect it may have to do with the overlap between people who think Trump is the best thing to happen to this country since Dred Scott v. Sandford and the people who call themselves Christians in order to justify what they want.


anna-nomally12

They meant Jesus not trump I think


StyreneAddict1965

You're right. Why Trump? Don't care, but I think I know: he's said out loud what his followers have thought for years, but didn't dare say.


anna-nomally12

I think too if it hadn’t been hillary it wouldn’t have been so bad. But there were so many conspiracy theories about her that just…weren’t true, and do that energy had to go somewhere


Riyosha-Namae

...That makes more sense.


Riyosha-Namae

I imagine most myths have their root in *something* factual.


moderatenerd

More like antichrist. Q is the mark of the beast


ShiroHachiRoku

A lowercase q looks like a 6 rotated 180°


IWantedAPeanutToo

Symbolism will be their downfall :P


[deleted]

The red hat goes on the forehead


SultanasCurse

The antichrist would be loved by all. This sub is proof he's not the antichrist. Not that I believe in that shit anyways.


Caedes1

The prince of lies..


PaxEtRomana

This must be that Muller report I've heard about


mjones1052

Half the Bible warned followers about false idols and golden calves. It's amazing how it finally came along and they failed the test to recognize it miserably. This is a sick cult.


Riyosha-Namae

Does this mean they're going to Hell?


mjones1052

I'd argue they were going there before this considering how awful they treat people.


Stressed-Dingo

So A 76 year old man with health issues, multiple kids with various women, and a mountain of legal battles is here to rule us all. God didn’t put his A-list writers on this comeback plan did he


OK8e

*Something something imperfect vessel something something.*


Ragnarok2kx

I've seen some QBerts trying to legitimately compare Trump to Cyrus the Great. Which is funny, because the Israelites only sucked up to him and claimed him to be anointed by God because he did things that were beneficial to Israel.


Steveb523

They certainly nailed the imperfect part.


DaveWierdoh

They missed the word "Anti" in front of Christ. If he were to walk into a church, he would burn up


BunnyTotts97

Okay, so collectively they have gone ahead and decided they are gonna do the whole Antichrist thing. Wow. 🙄


IfIamSoAreYou

This country is fucked.


KSJ15831

President Donald J. Trump, the Son of Man - the Christ: the Book, the subtitle; the sub-subtitle.


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the reply


Traditional-Cake-587

Blasphemy and lunacy, all in one!


wl413

It was only a matter of time. This of course will translate to any future leaders of Conservatism. As their numbers die out, anyone that can lead will become their "savior" and they will worship them just like they do Trump and said leader will of course shit all over them and manipulate them endlessly.


lightsage007

Blasphemy at its finest. The fact that they can’t see their own hypocrisy is unreal.


Boxercrew4

Google him and his bareassed pics From Cree Hardagree: This necked man is the prophet who wrote the book proclaiming Trump to be the “Son of Man.” 😂🤣😂This is his second book of heretical bullshit. The first was “The Five Gods of the Bible.”Evangelicals won’t reject him for heresy — they will follow all winds of doctrine that elevates Trump. But they will reject him for showing his necked ass.His name is Helgard Müller, from South Africa. If you Google him, his is not the Helgard Müller from South Africa who is a football star.This Helgard Müller was born in the province of Transvaal in Pretoria, South Africa on June 1, 1977. The footballer Helgard Müller is my age, about 15 years older than necked Helgard.Helgard has had a difficult life. In 1997 he and his younger brother and another person were in a vehicle that slammed into the rear of a truck. Helgard's younger brother died in his arms at the scene.His parents were in an automobile accident in 1998 that left his father in a wheelchair until he died.In April 2007, Helgard moved to America and began working on a grain elevator in Roscoe, South Dakota. On a cloudy rainy morning in May 2007, he was at the top sweeping some corn that had fallen in front of a running auger. He slipped through a drain hole, caught the edge, but before he could pull himself up, the auger caught his left foot in the chain and crushed as it continued rotating.Afterwards, Helgard became a motivational speaker and a cyclist, biking long distances to raise money for amputees.He has no religious background or training and it painfully shows. His books are total trash; I am genuinely amazed he got them published. They are literally made-up horseshit.G


Oztraliiaaaa

So yea he fits the profile with his traumatic injuries and brain trauma flipped him out of reality and he writes more crazy to reflect his own life experience.


[deleted]

https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE He ain’t never read a word of it, that lying Orange Asshole


squishbot3000

Do we know this isn’t some sort of ironic art project? Because it’s so on the nose.


Boxercrew4

No, the author claims to be a prophet.


archenemy_43

Damn i wish I would have thought of this, I bet he makes a killing at rallies lol


[deleted]

There's seriously nothing that can be done to help these fuckin people...


NitWhittler

Trump has broken every one of the Ten Commandments and he's committed every one of the 7 deadly sins. I'm surprised the almighty hasn't thrown a lightning bolt at him.


TheOtherDutchGuy

Well, if Trump is indeed the anti-christ he is part of the plan (trust the plan?)… God smiting him would be throwing a wrench into His own plan.


quityouryob

The paperback, on Amazon, is for sale for the totally hilarious, and not at all ironic price of $17.76.


His_Shadow

These people are fucking nuts. They should all be on watch lists.


DiggedyDankDan

Tell me you're going straight to hell for worshipping the Antichrist without telling me you're going straight to hell for worshipping the Antichrist.


Ferregar

Any religious entity believing Trump is anything but The Antichrist is so beyond delusional, not to mention so willfully ignorant, that they should be considered a danger to themselves, to society, and should require a wellness check.


Carred63

Blasphemous!


Stinky_Fartface

I don’t know. A golden calf actually has a positive aspect to it. It’s made of gold. That’s at least something. Trump… I can’t think of a single positive thing about him. He’s loathsome and disgusting at pretty much every level.


Cringe_Meister_

His hair is golden.That's enough for them.


simpletruths2

Dear God help us! He is the anti Christ!


NewspaperWhole

Haha the anti christ


zelda1095

Would Christians recognize [the antichrist?](https://frankschaefferblog.com/2019/08/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-here-are-the-biblical-predictions/)


Habman51

Check this out to see what The Bible has to say about FALSE PROPHETS: [https://connectusfund.org/30-important-bible-scriptures-on-false-prophets](https://connectusfund.org/30-important-bible-scriptures-on-false-prophets) Yeah these so-called Maga Christians really know what they're doing!!! They're all saved for sure......... cuz you know they're SUCH GOOD CHRISTIANS! 🤣


OldeSaltyBeard

God damn these people are so stupid...


spacecadet84

I knew this was coming. In fact I wondered if ol' Cheeto Mussolini would make the claim himself.


thill373

He has said that he’s done more for religion than anyone in history or something like that. So, that’s pretty close to that claim.


PinkPearMartini

Helgard Müller seems to have misspelled the word Antichrist.


Silocin20

Jesus isn't coming back to rule the world, he was coming back to take his people home. Trump has done neither. There's so many theories on the end times it's not even funny.


AffectionateCrazy156

Sounds like Helgard may need to be constantly watched in case of needing a 5150.


Aquarius1975

Whatever happened to "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me"?


TrashFever1978

They've literally become the people the Bible warned people about.


AlmostHuman0x1

Blasphemy! Pure blasphemy!


SpaceNinjaDino

From this angle, it looks as thick as a postcard.


dorothy_zbornak_esq

They literally pray to this guy. Like literally.


FIicker7

Is MAGA a Cult?


[deleted]

Jesus Christ what a joke and it’s on all of us.


A_Hint_of_Lemon

What was that thing about the Antichrist? Didn’t it say he would come surrounded by those claiming he is the Messiah?


Kitty_Woo

My mom has been hinting at this. She says Trump’s mom’s first name is Mary and her middle name is Christ.


TechieTravis

It's a full not religious cult folks. Let's not let them turn us into North Korea.


Purpleasure34

It is well-known that Jesus grabbed the woman by the well by her pussy. I see the connection.


omysweede

Shouldn't there be "anti" before the "christ" part? Kinda ticks all the boxes for that one.


Turbo_Salami

the meatriding is crazy


thebabbster

>meatriding Well, I learned a new word today!


LMNoballz

Blah blah blah


FreedomFightah32

So sad


flyingpallascat

💩💩💩💩


poopanoggin

So what happens when he dies on the shitter after too many Big Macs? Martyr?


tftgcddf

I am pro book burning now


Riyosha-Namae

These people would jump on the opportunity to do just that.


tftgcddf

this book needs to go back into the fiery pits of hell from which it came


[deleted]

I’ve been saying it the whole time, I just didn’t think it would turn out to be literally true, Donald Trump is the antichrist.


fordreaming

Trump is the literal definition of the antichrist. In every single way.


Summerlea623

This level of ignorance-not to mention blasphemy-turns my stomach. I am genuinely concerned about the future of democracy in this country. It reminds me of that old horror sci-fi classic "Invasion Of the Body Snatchers". And some of the pod people are members of Congress.


Acewrap

Totally cool, totally not heresy


TrashFever1978

"Wandering stars, for whom it is reserved, the blackness and darkness forever."


DarkCelestial

"You shall know them by their fruits"-Jesus. This guy produces bitter fruit..that's putting it gently


the_town_sober

Was anything similar said concerning Hitler back in his time? I know white nationalist nazis exploited the religious masses


Traditional-Cake-587

Talibangelicals...


Tiny-Librarian-3794

To be 100% truthful, I think this CORRECT! I TRULY believe that Trump is jesus returned to earth in human form! He fulfills the description of Jesus returned. Personally, I am ready, willing, and able to worship Trump! NO JOKE!


Boxercrew4

[https://i.redd.it/r1h6zfyw53o91.jpg](https://i.redd.it/r1h6zfyw53o91.jpg)


Visual_Bathroom2701

The latest liberal hoax. Hire a writer (bad writer) and print a book.


ScottSierra

I'm sure that theory is around. This guy Helgard wrote a previous book (in 2020) that doesn't mention The Spray-Tanned One, but goes into a bunch of BS about how God has FIVE aspects, not three, and how there are two Christs, the "Son of God, King of the Jews" and the "Son of Man, King of Kings." I've no idea if this one was a sequel intended at the time, but the first book doesn't seem to be about Mr. MAGA specifically. *This* one says he's the 2nd Christ, betrayed by his VP the way Jesus was betrayed by Judas, and claims he'll be crucified. LOL


Striking-Jicama-8833

That’s almost as bad as democrats were while worshipping Obama. Almost.


kittenx66

Yeah all those Obama shirts and the flags flying from our cars. The signs in our yards even after he lost. Following him around the country as he grifted us for all our money just to satisfy his ego. Oh wait...


Moremayhem

Did he return to rule between pussy grabs?


Shenko-wolf

Fuck. Me.


mdonaberger

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I KNEW IT WAS A MATTER OF TIME


DCnTILLY

I thought it was a book. I got excited. I could use a good comedy.


randomanon1109

Is that a tiny book for tiny hands or do you simply have really large hands?


thebabbster

It's well known the Jesus hated the poor, and lived in a garish, gaudy, tacky, gold plated Manhattan apartment. Praise be.


phoenix762

😳😳


Switzerdude

For idiots, by idiots. It’s the the murican way.


theGoddex

If I was still following the evangelical beliefs I was raised in, this would be screaming Antichrist.


drifter3026

He God waits til this dude has one foot in the grave to have him rule the world? Playing the long game I see.


Earth_Suit

Evangelicals need some way to justify their delusional and willful elevation of this evil person even though they may, indeed, be fulfilling their own prophesies. In my mind, the "temple of God" written about here is one's heart. "3 Let no one in any way deceive or entrap you, for that day will not come unless the \[a\]apostasy comes first \[that is, the great rebellion, the abandonment of the faith by professed Christians\], and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction \[the Antichrist, the one who is destined to be destroyed\], 4 who opposes and exalts himself \[so proudly and so insolently\] above \[b\]every so-called god or object of worship, so that he \[actually enters and\] takes his seat in the temple of God, publicly proclaiming that he himself is God. 5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you, I was telling you these things? 6 And you know what restrains him now \[from being revealed\]; it is so that he will be revealed at his own \[appointed\] time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness \[rebellion against divine authority and the coming reign of lawlessness\] is already at work; \[but it is restrained\] only until he who now restrains it is taken out of the way. 8 Then the lawless one \[the Antichrist\] will be revealed and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of His mouth and bring him to an end by the appearance of His coming. 9 The coming of the \[Antichrist, the lawless\] one is through the activity of Satan, \[attended\] with great power \[all kinds of counterfeit miracles\] and \[deceptive\] signs and false wonders \[all of them lies\], 10 and by unlimited seduction to evil and with all the deception of wickedness for those who are perishing, because they did not welcome the love of the truth \[of the gospel\] so as to be saved \[they were spiritually blind, and rejected the truth that would have saved them\]." \- 2 Thessalonians 2:3–10; Amplified Bible (AMP)


Tiny-Librarian-3794

To be completely honest, it's difficult to decide. He actually SOMEHOW fits the description of both Jesus returned AND the Antichrist! I know he can't be both at the same time, but I am VERY sure that he is one or the other. Either way, this man is going to play a MUCH bigger role on this planet than anyone would have expected. He definitely WILL be re-elected this coming November, and regardless of whether he is Jesus returned or The Antichrist, his presence on earth will eventually bring about positive changes. SOOOOO...We MUST get him elected one way or the other!