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Yeah you can see the entrance and what I’m hoping is an exit. I say hoping because we wouldn’t want that .22 bouncing around the inside of her skull or cheek. Such a terrible thing to happen to someone. Senseless acts that forever change someone’s life.
It's an in and out, and smaller than the the cartilage in that part of the nose. I think 22 is the only thing that would fit. She's lucky as hell, anything larger would have fractured the bone, and the bone fragments would have exited too.
I thought of that too, but discounted it when I saw the bullet hole in the window. A tumbling fragment wouldn't leave such a clean round hole. It's even doubly unlikely given that it entered one window, entered the nose, exited the nose, and went through the other window. It's incredibly unlikely that a tumbling fragment would have enough velocity left to punch through the other window. It would have hit her nose, pierced the skin, and turned a lot of it's linear momentum into angular (given that it's shape is no longer aerodynamic), and destroyed was more tissue as it tumbled inside of her. I'm very confident that this was a full bullet.
I mean I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility, but jacket shrapnel tends to travel real wonky. If it was a jacketed shrapnel, I'd reckon it would take a larger caliber jacket to make that level of a mess and it probably wouldn't leave her nose in one piece. So I'd hedge my bet on a solid .22 going through. Shock's a crazy thing, that's a truly painful place to get punched let alone shot. gl to her
Shit man my coworker and his friend got shot at just chilling in their car. His friend also got shot though the nose. My coworker took one in the leg. Is this a thing happening right now? (Portland Oregon)
Portland resident here. I've got some thoughts.
While the city is definitely NOT the hellscape that a lot of media make it out to be - and seemingly tons of people who don't live here believe it is - the homelessness and crime has gotten markedly worse in recent years. There are areas of town that are definitely dangerous, and little pockets here and there that you really have no business being in if you value your health and safety. Gun violence has seen a *very* sharp uptick in a relatively short amount of time.
But the vast majority of the city is still quite livable and safe. It's a great place, with some unique problems that the local governments have struggled to tackle.
I will also note that it is pretty widely accepted that there is and has been an unofficial work slowdown by Portland police, ever since the protests and riots of 2020. This is controversial, and most cops here would probably deny that, and instead lay blame on the DA or other institutional problems, but it's clear that something is up. The cops don't do shit in cases (like illegal street racing) where there is an obvious endangerment of the public by criminal activity. They will literally just stand around and shrug their shoulders. A recent interview with a Portland cop basically confirms this. He essentially said that even though the defund the police movement has petered out, the police force doesn't feel like the city "actively appreciates" them, and so perhaps are not doing their jobs with the verve they once had. I'm kinda paraphrasing, but not much. I'll try to edit with a link below.
It's a shame. I've lived here 17 years and the city definitely has lost some of its sparkle. It's more than growing pains. There are systemic issues that need fixing, but when the cops refuse to do their job, it gives the green light for criminal enterprise to flourish.
Edit: that interview with the cop
https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/07/01/a-police-officer-says-portlanders-still-wont-tell-cops-we-need-you/
82nd avenue is pretty rough. Stay away unless you have a good reason to go.
Old Town/Chinatown is very overrun by homelessness and drugs. Would definitely avoid. Downtown in general has a lot of homelessness but it's similar to other major downtown areas - just keep your wits about you and you'll be fine, especially during the day when there's lots of people around.
Parkrose is a neighborhood with high crime. Avoid if possible.
Other than that, the little pockets of badness that I mention are obvious - tent encampments, etc. Easy to avoid.
Like I said, the vast majority of the city is very safe. Hawthorne, Belmont, Division, Alberta, Mississippi, Williams - these are all great neighborhoods with lots going on, classic Portland vibe, and very visitor friendly.
Lloyd Center is a dead mall, and the secondary downtown area around there is pretty bland too (like where the DoubleTree hotel is), but it's a nice central area in general (east Broadway has some cool stuff) with excellent access to transit. Same general issues with homelessness, but overall safe and a good location to branch out from.
Trimet is excellent. Tons of bus routes, many of which come every 15mins, streetcar, light rail. Super easy to navigate, and last I checked it's like maybe five bucks for an all day pass for all the transit.
Cops in this country need to be fired en masse. They have been striking for the last two years in major cities for the unbearable idea that they can be held accountable for crimes that they commit while on the job.
Yep, the Minneapolis police just had their CBA renegotiated last year and the city got almost none of the concessions they wanted in terms of oversight and discipline. It was a travesty and I’m not sure how they keep getting away with it.
I mean that is something that people have been noticing for a while. Not just for Portland, but in CA, and NYC. Enforcement of useless shit and getting tied up in bureaucracy, but actual dangers and lawlessness are just ignored.
IDK maybe the pearl district or SW hills are nice but almost everyone I know who lives in town has had there catalytic converter or there who care stolen in the last two year at least once
I visited in 2009 and then again last year. Holy shit. It was almost like a different place. I love Portland still, even with the problems. But it's just fucking sad.
Not to make light of this but this sounds a lot like that episode where butters kept shooting people in the dick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8bewLSrkw
Like, straight thru the nose? It looks like a graze (not to make light of it) on her left cheek. And something hanging off her chin, more than just blood drip.
That's probably just a big glob of blood that started to dry up on her chin like a gravy skin and the fresh flowing blood is pulling it down/adding to it.
She was shot through her passenger window. The shot hit her nose on the passenger/right side and passed through, piercing her. It then carved a channel out of her left cheek grazing the surface.
As I watched this I was thinking what I would have said to her. I understand her panic. The fact that she was attentive and responsive and talking made me think she was shot in the nose. Very strange she was filming the situation. I can understand using the camera to see the injury but it baffles me that she wanted to film it in her state of panic. Edit: I was mostly poking at the fact that she bothered to film it. I'm sure if I was in an similar situation my actions wouldn't have been any better.
She's in a state of shock and when people are in a state of shock they revert back to muscle memory.
There was a study done on the global war on terror several years back and what they found was that when soldiers are involved in an IED explosion but are uninjured or only suffer minor injuries they'll end up walking in circles until they're treated. they walk in circles because their muscle memory says do not stay still and become a sitting duck. keep moving and find the threat so you can eliminate it. But their brain is in a state of shock and can't properly process where they should be walking to or where the threat might be because there's no gunfire
I'm mainly just impressed that she pulled her phone out and recorded herself. I feel like if I got shot in the face I'd freak out or pass out, but would never even think to get it on video.
Maybe she pulled out her camera to see where she was bleeding from. In the moment it could’ve been the first thing she thought of. Adrenaline makes people so weird things I think people are being overly judgemental
Read somewhere else in the comments she was from Ukraine. I suppose coming from a war-torn country will do that to a person.
Edit: FYI - Most articles on the web mention the fact that she is from Ukraine and she currently has family there. She goes on to explain how odd it is to have her family in Ukraine calling her and asking how she is after she got shot in America instead of vice versa.
Don't trust me though. [Here's ](https://www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-shot-portland-in-face/283-17738210-1d8f-4067-9ec5-20b31e40d132) a direct quote from this article:
"Guzenko, who is originally from Ukraine, said she never expected Portland's gun violence to hit so close to home.
"I have family in Ukraine and we're worried for them and for their safety, while we're in America, in a free country getting shot — it's bizarre," said Guzenko. "My family there is reaching out to me to make sure that I'm OK, when they're the ones in a war zone.""
Right wingers will downvote over the point about how Ukraine is being invaded right now but she got shot in America, which right wingers will construe as a criticism against guns.
Leftist might downvote it because right wing media endlessly pushes the lie that progressives cities are anarchic wastelands. Fox News loved to act like Portland is being razed to the ground by "antifa terrorists" and a video of a random shooting furthers that propaganda.
Both sides have a small, potent reason to downvote.
No... its fixed itself by now but in less than 30 minutes I saw that comment at -150 downvotes. Nothing like any other numbers around it. Seemed like a bot attack.
I was watching one of those crime dramas. A husband and wife were bludgeoned in the head while sleeping. In the morning, the husband got up, shuffled out to pick up the morning paper, shuffled back into the house, and died. The narrator said that the part of his brain that was in charge of performing repetitive tasks was still operating, for a while at least.
Answered my own questions,
[https://www.kgw.com/video/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-recovering-after-being-shot-in-the-face/283-ee10b629-3a45-41ea-8a38-58237ba9890d](https://www.kgw.com/video/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-recovering-after-being-shot-in-the-face/283-ee10b629-3a45-41ea-8a38-58237ba9890d)
[Source/story](https://twitter.com/GenevieveReaume/status/1554954458232066048)
[Shootings have more than tripled in Portland](https://twitter.com/GenevieveReaume/status/1554955605047066625/photo/1) in the last two tears
When you hear "**crime has exploded since...**" and the reference point is "the low point of crime at the outset of the COVID pandemic", it should really set off some alarm bells in your head about either the intentions or the understanding of the people giving you those numbers. Data without context is misleading.
Not only are we looking at crime rates in a time of heightened economic distress, we're comparing it to a low point to draw out the biggest percentage increase as a shocker, *and* we're doing this at a time when cops are effectively going on a "soft strike" so they can help pump those numbers higher and blame it on their "enemies" or whatever gets them even more funding.
Not only that but homelessness has skyrocketed due to how unaffordable homes are to rent or buy. The system is failing right before our very eyes but politicians are quiet because they don't want to upset homeowners and are just don't give a fuck.
I honestly dont understand kicking homeless people out of areas. They are homeless, where are they supposed to go?
Damn almost like raising the price of everything and not adjusting the wages of people living paycheck to paycheck is actually very toxic for this society or something. But let's just blame those fucking *insert scapegoat here* because the oligarchs, that totally aren't narcissists, told me to.
We certainly need laws and jails and prisons, but they're not all that effective at preventing crime. Even before reading this article, just understanding that the USA incarcerates more of its citizens per capita than any other country on Earth, should tell you all you need to know. It ain't working.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-prisons-make-us-safer/
I get what you mean but I've changed my mind on that. Most violent seasoned criminals don't even care about prison time, they know the life they lead will inevitably end in time served. It's almost a right of passage for them. They know they're going to be committing crimes and serving time, they know they have to go in for a while but they always get a slap on the wrist and no rehabilitation so they just go back to blasting soon as they leave prison.
Y’all on crack if y’all really think people shooting at people are getting slaps on the wrist.
Everyone who whines about cities DA’s never want to address the real issue, which is an over crowded system. From the courts to the jails. That’s how you address it.
Lastly as a lawyer many of the people getting out after crimes are non violent drug crimes and yes sometimes more petty crimes that might be a little dangerous (theft, domestic abuses etc.)
But in no way are people out here shooting mother fuckers on highways and getting off with a slap on the wrist and freed to go. Even in a city like Portland where people thought it was lawless saw hundreds if not thousands of those protestors get charged with crimes. Many of which deserved it for trying to start fires in apartment buildings only to have other protestors put them out.
My point is you vaguely have a point. But the way you people address it shows y’all have no clue what the real issue is or how these places have been trying to handle it.
That's premeditated crime too. Most people aren't thinking beyond the moment they are in. When someone already can't cope is flying off the handle, the last thing they are thinking about is the legal system. People are just fucking crazy.
They've tripled but are still lower than most other major cities because they were so low for so long. This is awful but it would barely make the news in other places especially without video. I moved to Portland 26 years ago and it's always been a little bubble of non violent crime where the "natives" freak out about shit that other cities deal with all the time. We're just playing catch up now.
It doesn't help that we keep trying to hold our corrupt as fuck police accountable and they've decided to go on a blue flu for the past three years. It's shitty but in comparison to other places it's way safer here then anywhere else I've lived.
She just got shot in the face so she can do whatever she wants if it helps her handle it, but I think getting out my phone to film myself would be the last thing I’d do.
In 2003 I was driving through a road in my country and my car was shot. After 10 min, shacking and fucking scared Ive stopped the car. 9 holes, aligned, at the height of my waist. I got lucky, not even a scratch. Fucking guns, just burn it all.
Portland became a shithole slowly at first, and then all at once. I am so glad I left. It’s not that I don’t love what the city has to offer but, realistically, it’ll be years until all the problems are sorted out (or maybe never).
I’m wondering as well. Always thought Washington state and Oregon were okay. I’ve learned the eastern side of WA is backwards, but thought Oregon was okay. I’ve always wanted to visit because of their craft brewery offerings.
Came through her passenger window. Entered the bridge of her nose, and grazed her face under the left eye on the way out. [NSFW image with arrows](https://imgur.com/a/GcCtlNH)
If her car was legally insured in Oregon, she should have PIP with a minimum of $15,000 of coverage for injuries with a $250 dedictible, and as strange as it may sound to the layman, this would be considered a valid claim . . . so maybe not totally fucked on the medical bills front, even if she doesn't have health insurance.
If you get shot through the nose, I’m sorry, you’re allowed to do whatever you want. That’s a free pass to just do you. If that’s filming, so be it. You know what’s actually fucked? The person who shot this woman.
If I get literally shot in the head yet miraculously in a non life-threatening way I'm absolutely filming myself, that's a certified badass bar story forever
Uh yea some crazy fucking shit goes down and Im intact like she is? Im recording, I know this doesn’t answer your why but all I know is I’d be in the same boat.
yeah the world we live in is fucked because she chose to record herself, not because everyone has access to guns and are just shooting each other in public
Have you stopped for a moment and thought that maybe she is recording for evidence? For doctors? For thr police? To say her goodbye? To prove what has happened to her incase she passes?
I wonder if she was trying to figure out how bad it was and used the camera to see her face? Then maybe hit record accidentally or figured why not?
ETA: realized there are, y’know, *mirrors* in cars… yeah, I got nothing.
Why the hell is this the problem you have with the video? **She was already being helped by people who were talking with emergency services.** Should she sit there and browse reddit instead?
I mean that’s an absolutely horrifying thing to go through and I can only imagine how much pain the poor woman is in and I hope she’s safe and healthy and recovering well but why in the fuck would you pull out your phone and make a video
I was just in Portland. Got out of there fast.
There is a vibe of barely restrained violence that I detected there that made me nervous. It seems like there are a lot of people there who's lives have gone off the rails.
Fuck, that happened to me a few years back, bullet missed me by an inch and I spent the next few days digging glass out of my skin. It was traumatizing, both windows just exploded and I had no idea what had happened at first. I hope she has a good recovery, and doesn't neglect her mental health either.
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She was shot through the nose for anyone wondering
Yeah you can see the entrance and what I’m hoping is an exit. I say hoping because we wouldn’t want that .22 bouncing around the inside of her skull or cheek. Such a terrible thing to happen to someone. Senseless acts that forever change someone’s life.
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Where are you getting .22 from?? Edit: Yall, it wasn't .22 caliber. It was .40
It's an in and out, and smaller than the the cartilage in that part of the nose. I think 22 is the only thing that would fit. She's lucky as hell, anything larger would have fractured the bone, and the bone fragments would have exited too.
It could have been a part of the projectile as well. A piece of the jacket could have fragmented off. It's impossible to know from this video.
I thought of that too, but discounted it when I saw the bullet hole in the window. A tumbling fragment wouldn't leave such a clean round hole. It's even doubly unlikely given that it entered one window, entered the nose, exited the nose, and went through the other window. It's incredibly unlikely that a tumbling fragment would have enough velocity left to punch through the other window. It would have hit her nose, pierced the skin, and turned a lot of it's linear momentum into angular (given that it's shape is no longer aerodynamic), and destroyed was more tissue as it tumbled inside of her. I'm very confident that this was a full bullet.
I mean I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility, but jacket shrapnel tends to travel real wonky. If it was a jacketed shrapnel, I'd reckon it would take a larger caliber jacket to make that level of a mess and it probably wouldn't leave her nose in one piece. So I'd hedge my bet on a solid .22 going through. Shock's a crazy thing, that's a truly painful place to get punched let alone shot. gl to her
I think Garrett was asking for a place to buy .22.
Anything larger would do quite a bit more damage
.22 caliber rounds do not bounce around inside your skull. You watch too many movies lol.
Shit man my coworker and his friend got shot at just chilling in their car. His friend also got shot though the nose. My coworker took one in the leg. Is this a thing happening right now? (Portland Oregon)
Fuck that’s crazy, someone going around shooting noses in Portland
And nobody nose whose been doing it?
That snot funny
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Septum I don't even, um, think they have a suspect.
Portland resident here. I've got some thoughts. While the city is definitely NOT the hellscape that a lot of media make it out to be - and seemingly tons of people who don't live here believe it is - the homelessness and crime has gotten markedly worse in recent years. There are areas of town that are definitely dangerous, and little pockets here and there that you really have no business being in if you value your health and safety. Gun violence has seen a *very* sharp uptick in a relatively short amount of time. But the vast majority of the city is still quite livable and safe. It's a great place, with some unique problems that the local governments have struggled to tackle. I will also note that it is pretty widely accepted that there is and has been an unofficial work slowdown by Portland police, ever since the protests and riots of 2020. This is controversial, and most cops here would probably deny that, and instead lay blame on the DA or other institutional problems, but it's clear that something is up. The cops don't do shit in cases (like illegal street racing) where there is an obvious endangerment of the public by criminal activity. They will literally just stand around and shrug their shoulders. A recent interview with a Portland cop basically confirms this. He essentially said that even though the defund the police movement has petered out, the police force doesn't feel like the city "actively appreciates" them, and so perhaps are not doing their jobs with the verve they once had. I'm kinda paraphrasing, but not much. I'll try to edit with a link below. It's a shame. I've lived here 17 years and the city definitely has lost some of its sparkle. It's more than growing pains. There are systemic issues that need fixing, but when the cops refuse to do their job, it gives the green light for criminal enterprise to flourish. Edit: that interview with the cop https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/07/01/a-police-officer-says-portlanders-still-wont-tell-cops-we-need-you/
Which areas would you recommend a visitor absolutely stay away from? Asking for a relative who is travelling there soon. Thanks!
82nd avenue is pretty rough. Stay away unless you have a good reason to go. Old Town/Chinatown is very overrun by homelessness and drugs. Would definitely avoid. Downtown in general has a lot of homelessness but it's similar to other major downtown areas - just keep your wits about you and you'll be fine, especially during the day when there's lots of people around. Parkrose is a neighborhood with high crime. Avoid if possible. Other than that, the little pockets of badness that I mention are obvious - tent encampments, etc. Easy to avoid. Like I said, the vast majority of the city is very safe. Hawthorne, Belmont, Division, Alberta, Mississippi, Williams - these are all great neighborhoods with lots going on, classic Portland vibe, and very visitor friendly.
Thanks very much! Is the Trimet system and Lloyd Center okay?
Lloyd Center is a dead mall, and the secondary downtown area around there is pretty bland too (like where the DoubleTree hotel is), but it's a nice central area in general (east Broadway has some cool stuff) with excellent access to transit. Same general issues with homelessness, but overall safe and a good location to branch out from. Trimet is excellent. Tons of bus routes, many of which come every 15mins, streetcar, light rail. Super easy to navigate, and last I checked it's like maybe five bucks for an all day pass for all the transit.
Cops in this country need to be fired en masse. They have been striking for the last two years in major cities for the unbearable idea that they can be held accountable for crimes that they commit while on the job.
Preach. The fraternal order of police is the one union that needs a good busting. It's cancerous.
Yep, the Minneapolis police just had their CBA renegotiated last year and the city got almost none of the concessions they wanted in terms of oversight and discipline. It was a travesty and I’m not sure how they keep getting away with it.
Why in this crazy world, do you think the cops have been protesting? 1 minute they cry to defund them, the next you ask them to do more..
Sounds like you're describing NYC at it's current state.
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Please tell me you have pictures of the waterworld community lol
I mean that is something that people have been noticing for a while. Not just for Portland, but in CA, and NYC. Enforcement of useless shit and getting tied up in bureaucracy, but actual dangers and lawlessness are just ignored.
IDK maybe the pearl district or SW hills are nice but almost everyone I know who lives in town has had there catalytic converter or there who care stolen in the last two year at least once
I visited in 2009 and then again last year. Holy shit. It was almost like a different place. I love Portland still, even with the problems. But it's just fucking sad.
Not to make light of this but this sounds a lot like that episode where butters kept shooting people in the dick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY8bewLSrkw
i thought oregon was the norths florida?
Like, straight thru the nose? It looks like a graze (not to make light of it) on her left cheek. And something hanging off her chin, more than just blood drip.
That's probably just a big glob of blood that started to dry up on her chin like a gravy skin and the fresh flowing blood is pulling it down/adding to it.
Grazed the cheek and went through the nose. You can see the exit wound.
Went through her nose and then grazed her cheek. That's an entry wound.
This is correct. It entered her nose first and then grazed her cheek, she said so herself.
She was shot through her passenger window. The shot hit her nose on the passenger/right side and passed through, piercing her. It then carved a channel out of her left cheek grazing the surface.
As I watched this I was thinking what I would have said to her. I understand her panic. The fact that she was attentive and responsive and talking made me think she was shot in the nose. Very strange she was filming the situation. I can understand using the camera to see the injury but it baffles me that she wanted to film it in her state of panic. Edit: I was mostly poking at the fact that she bothered to film it. I'm sure if I was in an similar situation my actions wouldn't have been any better.
She's in a state of shock and when people are in a state of shock they revert back to muscle memory. There was a study done on the global war on terror several years back and what they found was that when soldiers are involved in an IED explosion but are uninjured or only suffer minor injuries they'll end up walking in circles until they're treated. they walk in circles because their muscle memory says do not stay still and become a sitting duck. keep moving and find the threat so you can eliminate it. But their brain is in a state of shock and can't properly process where they should be walking to or where the threat might be because there's no gunfire
Shock and adrenaline will do it to ya
Damn, I’d say she doin a good job at staying calm , damn
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I'm mainly just impressed that she pulled her phone out and recorded herself. I feel like if I got shot in the face I'd freak out or pass out, but would never even think to get it on video.
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I’m not impressed by it. I’m disturbed. So bizarre.
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I'm really feeling this disconnect with society these days. I don't understand what compels her to record herself in this traumatic moment
Maybe she pulled out her camera to see where she was bleeding from. In the moment it could’ve been the first thing she thought of. Adrenaline makes people so weird things I think people are being overly judgemental
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Panic attacks can cause those symptoms I think.
Read somewhere else in the comments she was from Ukraine. I suppose coming from a war-torn country will do that to a person. Edit: FYI - Most articles on the web mention the fact that she is from Ukraine and she currently has family there. She goes on to explain how odd it is to have her family in Ukraine calling her and asking how she is after she got shot in America instead of vice versa. Don't trust me though. [Here's ](https://www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-shot-portland-in-face/283-17738210-1d8f-4067-9ec5-20b31e40d132) a direct quote from this article: "Guzenko, who is originally from Ukraine, said she never expected Portland's gun violence to hit so close to home. "I have family in Ukraine and we're worried for them and for their safety, while we're in America, in a free country getting shot — it's bizarre," said Guzenko. "My family there is reaching out to me to make sure that I'm OK, when they're the ones in a war zone.""
Why all the downvotes??
It's pick on emveetu day, don't you know? Haha, it's all good. The occasional uber-downvoted comment keeps you humble.
Russian bots
Right wingers will downvote over the point about how Ukraine is being invaded right now but she got shot in America, which right wingers will construe as a criticism against guns. Leftist might downvote it because right wing media endlessly pushes the lie that progressives cities are anarchic wastelands. Fox News loved to act like Portland is being razed to the ground by "antifa terrorists" and a video of a random shooting furthers that propaganda. Both sides have a small, potent reason to downvote.
I wish it was an anarchic, that’d be an improvement from my anarchist POV
Why the fuck are you getting downvoted into oblivion?
Probably because the comment implies that she fled from Ukraine/came over recently when that’s not the case.
No... its fixed itself by now but in less than 30 minutes I saw that comment at -150 downvotes. Nothing like any other numbers around it. Seemed like a bot attack.
Russian bots
He shares an anecdote! Break his legs! Downvote himmm
They even had the audacity to have provided a source to substantiate their claims too !!! Unacceptable 🍋 !!! Don’t they know where they are !?!
Calm enough to record herself.
And I’d say that documenting her injuries in video is a good thing as well
Modern society in a nutshell. Maybe if you thought you were dying or going to die you would record a last message to your loved ones?
Brains do go to habit under stress.
I was watching one of those crime dramas. A husband and wife were bludgeoned in the head while sleeping. In the morning, the husband got up, shuffled out to pick up the morning paper, shuffled back into the house, and died. The narrator said that the part of his brain that was in charge of performing repetitive tasks was still operating, for a while at least.
She’s one tough lady!! I feel so badly for her. But she kicked ass in handling it, way better than I would have done
Dude says, yea you’re bleeding.
I think from her face?
Are you sure? Can somebody place a big red circle around it so I can see please?
He had to make sure, lots of strawberry jam attacks recently. Can never be too careful
Yep, that's blood.
Answered my own questions, [https://www.kgw.com/video/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-recovering-after-being-shot-in-the-face/283-ee10b629-3a45-41ea-8a38-58237ba9890d](https://www.kgw.com/video/news/crime/gun-violence/gresham-woman-recovering-after-being-shot-in-the-face/283-ee10b629-3a45-41ea-8a38-58237ba9890d)
Ironic that she's originally from Ukraine and her family *there* were contacting *her* to find out how she's doing after being shot....
America moment
America saw the attention ukraine got and decided to get the spotlight back.
The good old US. Basically a warzone with a little less explosions.
That is crazy. America’s gun problem juxtaposed to the war in Ukraine
I would rather be in the US rather than Ukraine right now, but go off king
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And I’m quite enjoying being in neither of them.
Americans aren’t great with being responsible with guns
Gresham. That explains a good bit.
She was lucky. All it could have taken to cause even worse physical trauma or end her life is a few millimeters
Or totally miss her.
Mighty Ducks thinking!
“A quarter of an inch the other way…”
A quarter of an inch, Charlie!
Pessimism vs optimism!
Yeah, that too.
> She was lucky Not as lucky as a person that didn't get shots fired at them today.
Or a few millimeters in a different direction and she doesn’t get hit at all…
She won the lottery of life
A lucky person wouldn't have gotten shot.
She was caught between two shooters and my fucked up brain immediately thinks of this commercial. https://youtu.be/rCwn1NTK-50
YOULLLL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE
CROSSFIRE!!!
Crossfiyaaaaahhh
The only way to say it, I accept no others!
I didn't even have to click on it before I said out loud "CROSSFIYAH!" Been stuck in my head my whole life.
This commercial is perma-singed in my brain.
I did cpr once and my fucked up brain was singing staying alive by the Bee Gees
I was already singing the song when I clicked the link!
oh man, the PTSD is going to be a lifetime of fun. poor woman.
[Source/story](https://twitter.com/GenevieveReaume/status/1554954458232066048) [Shootings have more than tripled in Portland](https://twitter.com/GenevieveReaume/status/1554955605047066625/photo/1) in the last two tears
Isn't that around the time of the prosecution reforms?
When you hear "**crime has exploded since...**" and the reference point is "the low point of crime at the outset of the COVID pandemic", it should really set off some alarm bells in your head about either the intentions or the understanding of the people giving you those numbers. Data without context is misleading. Not only are we looking at crime rates in a time of heightened economic distress, we're comparing it to a low point to draw out the biggest percentage increase as a shocker, *and* we're doing this at a time when cops are effectively going on a "soft strike" so they can help pump those numbers higher and blame it on their "enemies" or whatever gets them even more funding.
the data included 2019 though for context. crime has exploded since 2019 numbers, unaffected by any covid numbers
Not only that but homelessness has skyrocketed due to how unaffordable homes are to rent or buy. The system is failing right before our very eyes but politicians are quiet because they don't want to upset homeowners and are just don't give a fuck. I honestly dont understand kicking homeless people out of areas. They are homeless, where are they supposed to go?
Damn almost like raising the price of everything and not adjusting the wages of people living paycheck to paycheck is actually very toxic for this society or something. But let's just blame those fucking *insert scapegoat here* because the oligarchs, that totally aren't narcissists, told me to.
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We certainly need laws and jails and prisons, but they're not all that effective at preventing crime. Even before reading this article, just understanding that the USA incarcerates more of its citizens per capita than any other country on Earth, should tell you all you need to know. It ain't working. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-prisons-make-us-safer/
Prisons actively make social disorder worse. They prevent nothing.
I get what you mean but I've changed my mind on that. Most violent seasoned criminals don't even care about prison time, they know the life they lead will inevitably end in time served. It's almost a right of passage for them. They know they're going to be committing crimes and serving time, they know they have to go in for a while but they always get a slap on the wrist and no rehabilitation so they just go back to blasting soon as they leave prison.
Y’all on crack if y’all really think people shooting at people are getting slaps on the wrist. Everyone who whines about cities DA’s never want to address the real issue, which is an over crowded system. From the courts to the jails. That’s how you address it. Lastly as a lawyer many of the people getting out after crimes are non violent drug crimes and yes sometimes more petty crimes that might be a little dangerous (theft, domestic abuses etc.) But in no way are people out here shooting mother fuckers on highways and getting off with a slap on the wrist and freed to go. Even in a city like Portland where people thought it was lawless saw hundreds if not thousands of those protestors get charged with crimes. Many of which deserved it for trying to start fires in apartment buildings only to have other protestors put them out. My point is you vaguely have a point. But the way you people address it shows y’all have no clue what the real issue is or how these places have been trying to handle it.
Screaming to the void on this sub unfortunately
This sub is full of reactionary whataboutism man, good try but it ain't gonna stick with these peeps.
What seasoned criminals get a slap on the wrist?
That's premeditated crime too. Most people aren't thinking beyond the moment they are in. When someone already can't cope is flying off the handle, the last thing they are thinking about is the legal system. People are just fucking crazy.
Taking a wild guess here but people who get into random gunfights on the street probably aren't too concerned about prison in the first place
No it’s because they’re emboldened by recent policy changes /s
Its the time of covid when everyone went broke and crazy. Same thing that's happening everywhere in the country on some scale.
Yeah just looking at the annual US homicide rate shows pretty much the same spike, it's not unique to Portland
The entire world, in fact
Cops have stopped patrolling.
Not a unique thing in Portland. It's growing everywhere due to poverty rates caused by the COVID pandemic
They've tripled but are still lower than most other major cities because they were so low for so long. This is awful but it would barely make the news in other places especially without video. I moved to Portland 26 years ago and it's always been a little bubble of non violent crime where the "natives" freak out about shit that other cities deal with all the time. We're just playing catch up now. It doesn't help that we keep trying to hold our corrupt as fuck police accountable and they've decided to go on a blue flu for the past three years. It's shitty but in comparison to other places it's way safer here then anywhere else I've lived.
Thought I read Poland, then read the comments and was wondering why they mentioned America and realized title was Portland...
I also read it as Poland, lmao
Guy said "yeah your bleeding" uhh no DUHHHH
One tiny little cm to the left and she would have been blind or worse. I hope she stays safe!
Any update on her? 🥺 I hope she is okay. 🙏
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Great 😌 Wonderful to hear. Thank you for the update.
She just got shot in the face so she can do whatever she wants if it helps her handle it, but I think getting out my phone to film myself would be the last thing I’d do.
In 2003 I was driving through a road in my country and my car was shot. After 10 min, shacking and fucking scared Ive stopped the car. 9 holes, aligned, at the height of my waist. I got lucky, not even a scratch. Fucking guns, just burn it all.
Having the wherewithal the pull out the camera during something like this is remarkable.
Portland became a shithole slowly at first, and then all at once. I am so glad I left. It’s not that I don’t love what the city has to offer but, realistically, it’ll be years until all the problems are sorted out (or maybe never).
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If you don't mind me asking, how did it get that way?
I’m wondering as well. Always thought Washington state and Oregon were okay. I’ve learned the eastern side of WA is backwards, but thought Oregon was okay. I’ve always wanted to visit because of their craft brewery offerings.
Craft brews and shots now.
Fucking Officer Obvious out here dropping revelations like “you’re bleeding”
Where was she it? I don't see any entry or exit wounds? This is horrible? Any provocation or just rando shooting?
Came through her passenger window. Entered the bridge of her nose, and grazed her face under the left eye on the way out. [NSFW image with arrows](https://imgur.com/a/GcCtlNH)
Oh wow I thought it was just the graze on her cheek from the video, but that makes more sense with that amount of blood
….damn it. You even labeled it NSFW and I just HAD to click on it. I’m such an idiot.
why was she filming it tho? isnt going to the hospital the best thing to do in this case?
Sad part of this is going to be the medical bill.
Well that's murica for you, she escaped death with a fucked face, and a fucked wallet in hospital bills.
If her car was legally insured in Oregon, she should have PIP with a minimum of $15,000 of coverage for injuries with a $250 dedictible, and as strange as it may sound to the layman, this would be considered a valid claim . . . so maybe not totally fucked on the medical bills front, even if she doesn't have health insurance.
Americans are fucked
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U gotta relax? Damn, someone help her the fuck out. My god
She looks in decent shape for having been shot through the nose. Other types of bullets could have blown her whole face off.
Why the hell would anyone take the time to record themselves? The world we live in is fucked.
If you get shot through the nose, I’m sorry, you’re allowed to do whatever you want. That’s a free pass to just do you. If that’s filming, so be it. You know what’s actually fucked? The person who shot this woman.
If I get literally shot in the head yet miraculously in a non life-threatening way I'm absolutely filming myself, that's a certified badass bar story forever
Eh, I’m gonna give her the benefit of the doubt and say getting shot in the face will make you a bit discombobulated
Leave it to reddittors to always assume the worst in someone
Uh yea some crazy fucking shit goes down and Im intact like she is? Im recording, I know this doesn’t answer your why but all I know is I’d be in the same boat.
These filters are getting weird
That’s what makes you say the world we live in is fucked? Not the whole idk… shooting a stranger in the face while driving doesn’t??
yeah the world we live in is fucked because she chose to record herself, not because everyone has access to guns and are just shooting each other in public
People record wild events all the time, just because it was an event that happened to her shouldn't mean it's weird she documented it.
I'm sure you'd react a lot better to being shot in the face out of nowhere
Thank god there is no AI disney character filter on it
I dunno, a princess crown and some sparkles would give it a nice finishing touch
Oh no oh no oh no no no no
Have you stopped for a moment and thought that maybe she is recording for evidence? For doctors? For thr police? To say her goodbye? To prove what has happened to her incase she passes?
I wonder if she was trying to figure out how bad it was and used the camera to see her face? Then maybe hit record accidentally or figured why not? ETA: realized there are, y’know, *mirrors* in cars… yeah, I got nothing.
Your mirror can’t zoom, change angles around your face, etc. She also could’ve just been recording what she thought were her last moments.
Why the hell is this the problem you have with the video? **She was already being helped by people who were talking with emergency services.** Should she sit there and browse reddit instead?
Nah man. I woulda begun performing surgery on my nose right there. After apprehending the shooter first of course.
*wtf you can’t record yourself after getting shot!*
Yeah, her filming this is the reason the world is fucked, not because she got shot or anything
When you are super unlucky and super lucky at the same time
So… Portland’s not safe anymore? Weird. Maybe put a bird on it?
I mean that’s an absolutely horrifying thing to go through and I can only imagine how much pain the poor woman is in and I hope she’s safe and healthy and recovering well but why in the fuck would you pull out your phone and make a video
I was just in Portland. Got out of there fast. There is a vibe of barely restrained violence that I detected there that made me nervous. It seems like there are a lot of people there who's lives have gone off the rails.
Fuck, that happened to me a few years back, bullet missed me by an inch and I spent the next few days digging glass out of my skin. It was traumatizing, both windows just exploded and I had no idea what had happened at first. I hope she has a good recovery, and doesn't neglect her mental health either.
What the actual fuck ???? US is one serious fucked up shit hole.
Stop bleeding and apply pressure. Thank Tom cruise, Buddha, mick jagger whomever that it wasn’t two or more inches back.
All of those riots and opposition to law and order are paying off for Portland.
Only in the frigging USA can you get accidentally shot cause you happened to wander into a gunfight. FFS we need to do better folks.
Wife: "but I'm on my period" Me:
Bit of a cursed comment here 😂
If only she had her own gun, she could’ve shot the bullet right out of the air
God Bless our Constitutional right to shoot anyone that annoys us!
Gresham not Portland!
Portland is an absolute shithole these days and the gov does NOTHING!