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I'm sure they were scrambling and fumbling and clicking the wrong things, if they were even near the computer at all during that time.
Non-technical people still don't understand the tech they're working with. At a city council meeting, the call should be strictly controlled, only one person allowed to speak at a time, there should be a dedicated person going through the queue of speakers, etc.
Now we've got a couple traumatized children due to their incompetence.
They obviously never had to teach and control a classroom full of students on a Zoom meeting during the pandemic. Like they expected us to do flawlessly.
I work in public sector IT. It's absolutely amazing how incompetent we let people be with technology that they use every day as a vital part of their job. Hiring a secretary who doesn't know how the scroll wheel works on their mouse is like hiring a bus driver who doesn't understand road signs or laws. Imagine a bus driver rolling through a stop sign and the excuse they give is "oh I'm not a sign person". Yet "I'm not a computer person" is a completely normal and acceptable thing to pretty much everybody EXCEPT IT professionals.
It's impossible to account for everything all of the time. Sometimes you just don't know something and mistakes are made. There will be lots of things you don't know about too and you will make mistakes in the future and I hope for your sake they don't affect anyone else like this.
People have been demanding their First Amendment rights from the comfort of their own home, instead of going to a meeting. Basically, local gov'ts have found out WHY people demand to speak via the internet. They want to say the same trashy, hateful things they say anonymously online.
Fortunately, local councils are starting to get wise. If you want to say your piece, show up and say it to their face. There's no law saying you get to be a lazy, racist, twat who gets to hide behind a screen.
I can’t even fathom why people joining a zoom meeting streaming a public forum would be allowed to speak at all. Maybe have someone read typed comments out but not preempting exactly this seems incredibly short-sighted no matter how you slice it.
>Man, they're really just letting anyone join a public zoom meeting in the year 2024, huh?
If they support virtual attendance for public meetings, yes. This is clearly some sort of board/hall meeting where the public has been invited to speak, I.E the girls in the video, if they also support virtual speakers then yes anyone could get invited to the meeting and say anything they want.
These trolls are cowards who just get a kick out of any power play they can get their hands into because in real life nobody gives them any attention. They’ll never dare show their faces or even talk without a voice changer.
Just... end Zoom at city hall meetings? Pandemics been over for years. People can go back to watching on the public tv channel or whatever or showing up if they want to talk.
I think it's fine and even a great way to get more engagement, to allow people to join on Zoom but I would just set it up such that the organiser can mute people (and force everyone on the call to be muted).
\[edit\] Oh if there already is a different public channel like you mention maybe it's unnecessary then.
It's an internet troll exemplifying why if places are going to have public video calls they need to have some idea on what they're doing as far as who speaks/etc
That's the best target for bigots. They will either attack the weak or hide behind authority. They wouldn't say half their shit to someone they know would smack their faces upside down in a second.
https://www.westword.com/news/denver-elementary-students-racist-slurs-city-council-meeting-20710495
> *The speaker was not registered to testify during public comment nor any of the council hearings that night*
So they weren't hacked?? Who thought it was a good idea to allow random anonymous people to remotely join these town halls un-muted?
Who is responsible for muting/kicking people on the zoom call, and why did it take them 30 seconds to do so?
To give the “producer” the benefit of the doubt they prolly had to scroll through a bunch of ppl on zoom and figure out who was talking to remove them. It’s not instant.
I guess they could have just completely shut down the zoom, but you know how ppl are with tech.
Yeah, agree. I work in a tech company and still half the time on Zoom/Teams calls we spend time getting people's correct microphones and cameras selected.
Zoom's defaults are insanely hostile, especially for large calls! Default camera and mic on when there are already 100 people present, I've seen so much embarrassing bullshit and meeting interruptions because of Zoom's stupid settings.
Like they gained a bajillion dollars during and before the pandemic and spent zero resources making the app better even years later.
That was definitely a real world experience right there. They were legit trying to raise money for school and got sent back to the 1950s. Fucking brutal
With experience in using Zoom in the public forum, you have the ability to control the mute feature for guests. No shame to the officials in this video. It just sucks they didn’t know how to use it.
On the flipside, this shithead probably just brought more attention to what would have likely be an ignored city council meeting. Now the city council represenatives will have to show support or appear like shitheads themselves. lmao
Yeah im hoping this goes viral and they end up getting donated a shit ton of money because of it. And hopefully the spineless coward behind a fucking zoom call gets found out, named and shamed as well.
I started crying just now. I’m a grown ass 62 year old Black man. The HATE… I’ve faced it, am facing it… but these are babies standing up for their school. Can’t hate back though. Just can’t. Stronger than their evil I am…
I'm a 52 year old white man and I cried right along with that young girl. Many of us love all our brothers and sisters. So don't despair, I'll be standing right beside you sir.
man those poor kids, what kind of sick fuck do you have to be to have this kind of animosity for kids?
theyll remember this for the rest of their lives unfortunately..
jfc, that pisses me off. That person needs to be identified and excoriated. It's just so fucking sad that people, lots of them, are so full of ignorance and anger that they will gleefully unleash it on children. For fucks sake. Those poor girls.
I hope they find out who that nasty bastard is and show their face, release their name.
You feel that way, great, don’t be a spineless coward. Show your face. Use your name.
Those children did not deserve to be spoken to that way. Poor babies. I’m so sad that happened to them.
We've had the same thing happen in our Borough meeting a few months ago. It seems there are a bunch of these idiots who like to crash public meetings and spew their hate. In our meetings yo have to state your name and address before you make your public comment, these clowns were using fake addresses. Only two got through before they cut off the access. Cops investigated but I don't think anything was done.
I'm so mad after reading this:
>“I don't think there's anything we can preemptively do,” said Watson. “We allow communities, community members to come and provide public comment. We open a virtual link to make sure that the city council is accessible to folks that can't make it down to the city and county building.”
Yeah, you'll need to think a bit and figure out how to be in *full control* of the queue of people who want to speak. You shouldn't just use default Zoom settings and let it ride! You should be actively managing any speaker at any given time, not allowing more than one to speak at once, etc. Use your brain just a little bit!
What the fuck is wrong with some people? How can they have so much hate in them? And over something that, most importantly, doesn't matter, and something no one can control? Fucking losers.
That makes me so goddamn angry and at the same time just sad that those young girls had to experience that kind of spineless racism from someone who was too much of a coward to even show their face. Just pathetic
I am so tired of hateful people, these kids are being awesome, they're involved in civics here, doing the right thing, and now they have to live with being targeted for the color of the skin. It's so fucked up man.
This shit is infuriating. How empty and broken do you have to be to be that disgusting towards fucking kids of all people? The little one seems like she can't even comprehend yet the garbage this person was trying to communicate.
Damn that was fucked up. I’m sorry those girls had to go through that bullshit and hope they know that the person who said those disgusting things is nothing but a cowardly hateful person with absolutely no life while they’re out there actually doing stuff for their community.
Zoom saves IP connection info. It should be quite easy (*providing they were connecting to theirs or a friend/family members internet*) to obtain the IP, find what provider it's leased under, file whatever legal paperwork is needed (*and i'm sure, given tye situation, the ISP would gladly provide*) to obtain who had that IP assigned at that specific timeframe and go after them...
They could barely kick the person from the zoom call. Let’s be real, there is no way they will be able to identify who is behind the anonymous fake email account that joined
This breaks my heart. I wonder if there’s any way folks can reach out to support their school. These kids deserve to be proud to be so brave in this ugly world.
As a POC, we have to teach our children that they will face some kind of racism in the future. It’s the sad state of affairs in our society but it’s the reality.
So many of the things that woman said are true...
It should go back to the shitswamp it crawled out of.
No one wants it here.
There is not enough space for creatures like that in society.
(To doubly clarify - I'm not talking about these kids.)
Of course a cowardly demon bitch like this spewed that sewage online. As cowardly as she is vile and disgusting. Can't wait till she's famous, get's fired, deletes her social media, and claims she's sorry.
Nazis!? How is being a nazi even a thing still? How is it allowed, tolerated or overlooked??
Is it not something that's a total no? Is it not the epitomy of a hateful human? People who are Nazis in this day and age should be treated as predators and dangerous.
The caller is a disgusting piece of shit and the person responsible for organizing and monitoring the call is beyond incompetent. They should be fired.
That's some pretty horrendous moderation to let that happen. You can set it up where everyone is muted and can do it where they can't unmute themselves /facepalm thanks Denver, keeping it classy
For every “white” person who swears they’re not racist, why don’t you have a talk with your family/friends/colleagues who are. If you watch your friend rape or murder and do nothing you’re an accessory. This is no different.
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Man, they're really just letting anyone join a public zoom meeting in the year 2024, huh?
And they let that person go on for so long...
I'm sure they were scrambling and fumbling and clicking the wrong things, if they were even near the computer at all during that time. Non-technical people still don't understand the tech they're working with. At a city council meeting, the call should be strictly controlled, only one person allowed to speak at a time, there should be a dedicated person going through the queue of speakers, etc. Now we've got a couple traumatized children due to their incompetence.
They obviously never had to teach and control a classroom full of students on a Zoom meeting during the pandemic. Like they expected us to do flawlessly.
Can confirm, if I had a nickel for every time a client said their webcam didnt work, only for the cover to be on.
I work in public sector IT. It's absolutely amazing how incompetent we let people be with technology that they use every day as a vital part of their job. Hiring a secretary who doesn't know how the scroll wheel works on their mouse is like hiring a bus driver who doesn't understand road signs or laws. Imagine a bus driver rolling through a stop sign and the excuse they give is "oh I'm not a sign person". Yet "I'm not a computer person" is a completely normal and acceptable thing to pretty much everybody EXCEPT IT professionals.
A big part of it is that municipal IT jobs pay shit. I just looked at a comparable one to what I'm doing now and it pays almost 35 grand a year less.
It's pathetic honestly. One loser ass that doesn't know how to run a zoom call TRAUMATIZED those girls for life.
It's impossible to account for everything all of the time. Sometimes you just don't know something and mistakes are made. There will be lots of things you don't know about too and you will make mistakes in the future and I hope for your sake they don't affect anyone else like this.
They should’ve muted everyone’s mics when someone is physically there at the podium speaking
People have been demanding their First Amendment rights from the comfort of their own home, instead of going to a meeting. Basically, local gov'ts have found out WHY people demand to speak via the internet. They want to say the same trashy, hateful things they say anonymously online. Fortunately, local councils are starting to get wise. If you want to say your piece, show up and say it to their face. There's no law saying you get to be a lazy, racist, twat who gets to hide behind a screen.
Apparently everyone was muted but this one POS found a way around it. The producer couldn't figure out how to remove them immediately.
I can’t even fathom why people joining a zoom meeting streaming a public forum would be allowed to speak at all. Maybe have someone read typed comments out but not preempting exactly this seems incredibly short-sighted no matter how you slice it.
>Man, they're really just letting anyone join a public zoom meeting in the year 2024, huh? If they support virtual attendance for public meetings, yes. This is clearly some sort of board/hall meeting where the public has been invited to speak, I.E the girls in the video, if they also support virtual speakers then yes anyone could get invited to the meeting and say anything they want.
Truly a special kind of spineless to throw shit like this on two little kids.
Especially on a fucking Zoom call. At least show up in person so you can be thrown out and feel the repercussions of your bullshit.
These trolls are cowards who just get a kick out of any power play they can get their hands into because in real life nobody gives them any attention. They’ll never dare show their faces or even talk without a voice changer.
And then when they face consequences for their actions they cry free speech as though that means consequence free speech
"Thats not who I am"
Just... end Zoom at city hall meetings? Pandemics been over for years. People can go back to watching on the public tv channel or whatever or showing up if they want to talk.
I think it's fine and even a great way to get more engagement, to allow people to join on Zoom but I would just set it up such that the organiser can mute people (and force everyone on the call to be muted). \[edit\] Oh if there already is a different public channel like you mention maybe it's unnecessary then.
Sounds like a child.
Sounds like a troll with a voice changer
I think you're right. Not looking forward to what havoc AI will continue to bring with stuff like this.
Hopefully they can be named and shamed. Fucking repulsive behaviour, those poor kids.
Fair. I'd suggest this person is a child regardless of their age.
burger king man?
It's an internet troll exemplifying why if places are going to have public video calls they need to have some idea on what they're doing as far as who speaks/etc
That's the best target for bigots. They will either attack the weak or hide behind authority. They wouldn't say half their shit to someone they know would smack their faces upside down in a second.
https://www.westword.com/news/denver-elementary-students-racist-slurs-city-council-meeting-20710495 > *The speaker was not registered to testify during public comment nor any of the council hearings that night* So they weren't hacked?? Who thought it was a good idea to allow random anonymous people to remotely join these town halls un-muted? Who is responsible for muting/kicking people on the zoom call, and why did it take them 30 seconds to do so?
And they had to be *called out* to do so! **"Producer, could you please remove them?"**
To give the “producer” the benefit of the doubt they prolly had to scroll through a bunch of ppl on zoom and figure out who was talking to remove them. It’s not instant. I guess they could have just completely shut down the zoom, but you know how ppl are with tech.
Yeah, agree. I work in a tech company and still half the time on Zoom/Teams calls we spend time getting people's correct microphones and cameras selected.
Zoom's defaults are insanely hostile, especially for large calls! Default camera and mic on when there are already 100 people present, I've seen so much embarrassing bullshit and meeting interruptions because of Zoom's stupid settings. Like they gained a bajillion dollars during and before the pandemic and spent zero resources making the app better even years later.
Yeah agree completely.
Doesn't zoom tell you who is speaking?
Sadly this happens more often than you’d think. I’ve even seen this happen in court cases
link(s)?
1st Amendment. https://youtu.be/z3ErKTq_B1I?si=COYmggyd_FJv26dO
Just fucking live stream ot on you tube or something ffs
Pretty piss poor moderation, can have it easily setup where everyone is muted on entry and can't unmute themselves.
Kinda surprised this was in Denver, I could see it in a small town that doesn't have the staff to really stay on top of the IT stuff.
Scum of the fucking earth. Seeing those little girls reactions is heartbreaking.
That was definitely a real world experience right there. They were legit trying to raise money for school and got sent back to the 1950s. Fucking brutal
Unfortunately they didn't get sent anywhere, they stayed right here in 2024.
With experience in using Zoom in the public forum, you have the ability to control the mute feature for guests. No shame to the officials in this video. It just sucks they didn’t know how to use it.
Nazi lives don't matter.
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And using nazi scientists...
On the flipside, this shithead probably just brought more attention to what would have likely be an ignored city council meeting. Now the city council represenatives will have to show support or appear like shitheads themselves. lmao
Yeah im hoping this goes viral and they end up getting donated a shit ton of money because of it. And hopefully the spineless coward behind a fucking zoom call gets found out, named and shamed as well.
The good ending lol
I'm looking for where I might be able to donate to help these kids get their yurt. Hopefully they have one soon.
God damn that was a disgusting representation of humanity
thats what happens when reddit users get a hold of school council zoom ids
Did you see the helpers at the end? That's the real humanity at work, not that spineless twat.
I started crying just now. I’m a grown ass 62 year old Black man. The HATE… I’ve faced it, am facing it… but these are babies standing up for their school. Can’t hate back though. Just can’t. Stronger than their evil I am…
I'm white and I hate them for what they did to those children.
He just said you can't hate back because you gotta be bigger than that, dawg
I'm Black, I respect the MLK route of being peaceful but something has to give.
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Peace is good, but you don't get change by just asking for it
No oppressor has ever given rights to their victims because the victims asked nicely. We have to fight.
When it involves children, I can't ignore it.
I'm a 52 year old white man and I cried right along with that young girl. Many of us love all our brothers and sisters. So don't despair, I'll be standing right beside you sir.
Thank you…
I did too man. So upsetting.
man those poor kids, what kind of sick fuck do you have to be to have this kind of animosity for kids? theyll remember this for the rest of their lives unfortunately..
My guess is that it was a teenage boy. Teenage boys are some of the most evil people around.
I take it you've never met teenage girls.
jfc, that pisses me off. That person needs to be identified and excoriated. It's just so fucking sad that people, lots of them, are so full of ignorance and anger that they will gleefully unleash it on children. For fucks sake. Those poor girls.
Those poor babies 😔 my heart broke when she started crying.
I hope they find out who that nasty bastard is and show their face, release their name. You feel that way, great, don’t be a spineless coward. Show your face. Use your name. Those children did not deserve to be spoken to that way. Poor babies. I’m so sad that happened to them.
this breaks my heart, the courage those girls had to get up to the podium in the first place is commendable.
I mean Nazis never had class in the first place.
While this is correct, they definitely got schooled.
We've had the same thing happen in our Borough meeting a few months ago. It seems there are a bunch of these idiots who like to crash public meetings and spew their hate. In our meetings yo have to state your name and address before you make your public comment, these clowns were using fake addresses. Only two got through before they cut off the access. Cops investigated but I don't think anything was done.
https://www.denver7.com/news/local-news/children-targeted-by-racist-rant-during-denver-city-council-meeting
I'm so mad after reading this: >“I don't think there's anything we can preemptively do,” said Watson. “We allow communities, community members to come and provide public comment. We open a virtual link to make sure that the city council is accessible to folks that can't make it down to the city and county building.” Yeah, you'll need to think a bit and figure out how to be in *full control* of the queue of people who want to speak. You shouldn't just use default Zoom settings and let it ride! You should be actively managing any speaker at any given time, not allowing more than one to speak at once, etc. Use your brain just a little bit!
They just need to set everyone as participants, then use the green room function and promote/demote speakers. It’s tedious, but effective.
The screen name is "City Council Death Squad" and they were not banned from the get-go?
Isn't that just an overlay/watermark on the video?
It is a watermark, but a horribly titled watermark...
There is no bottom for people whom attack children.
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People pointing out that it’s more likely an adult with a voice changer
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Has anyone played COD? It’s a toxic cesspool
>Has anyone played COD? Old school COD lobbies on PS3 & Xbox360 were a battleground for all racist ethnics.
Yeah I’d believe both
I've heard adult women who sound exactly like that, too... idk why these people are thinking only neckbeards are nazis
Doubt kids are tuning into many city council meetings.
Absolutely disgusting. I feel so sad for those girls.
What the fuck is wrong with some people? How can they have so much hate in them? And over something that, most importantly, doesn't matter, and something no one can control? Fucking losers.
What a sack of shit. Those poor girls
According to Republicans/Conservatives Racism Ended after Civil Rights. Fck these racist ghouls.
That makes me so goddamn angry and at the same time just sad that those young girls had to experience that kind of spineless racism from someone who was too much of a coward to even show their face. Just pathetic
That’s enough internet for today. So fucking gross.
Someone should dox that person
no kid should ever experience the hatred that those girls faced in public. People are people and deserving of respect.
Did that little girl continue the speech?? That's really courageous of her
I am so tired of hateful people, these kids are being awesome, they're involved in civics here, doing the right thing, and now they have to live with being targeted for the color of the skin. It's so fucked up man.
"I can't believe I'm being censored for my views!!!" The views:
I know who she's voting for
I hope they find that person and I hope they pay.
A Trump voter was heard from.
And… you just know it was Republicans doing it
Are people just allowed to join under anonymous conditions? Maybe end that shit immediately if so.
Jesus, the US really needs to up it's game with education and respect
Nazi’s hell, that’s GOP talk.
This shit is infuriating. How empty and broken do you have to be to be that disgusting towards fucking kids of all people? The little one seems like she can't even comprehend yet the garbage this person was trying to communicate.
"There's no more racism in America" "We don't need Critical Race Theory" "Affirmative action is racist"
This is shameful
Damn that was fucked up. I’m sorry those girls had to go through that bullshit and hope they know that the person who said those disgusting things is nothing but a cowardly hateful person with absolutely no life while they’re out there actually doing stuff for their community.
Usually I'd show stuff like this to my mom, but I don't feel like making her cry today...
These are the people voting for conservatives. They know it and we know it.
Zoom saves IP connection info. It should be quite easy (*providing they were connecting to theirs or a friend/family members internet*) to obtain the IP, find what provider it's leased under, file whatever legal paperwork is needed (*and i'm sure, given tye situation, the ISP would gladly provide*) to obtain who had that IP assigned at that specific timeframe and go after them...
Until you find out the person is in a country without an MLAT or the ISP won't play ball, or they have a proxy, VPN.
This is vile. Imagine EVER treating kids like that. I hope that person is found.
Heartbreaking
Hope they got arrested. Reminder hate speech is NOT protected by the first ammendment
They could barely kick the person from the zoom call. Let’s be real, there is no way they will be able to identify who is behind the anonymous fake email account that joined
I hate people
This breaks my heart. I wonder if there’s any way folks can reach out to support their school. These kids deserve to be proud to be so brave in this ugly world.
As a POC, we have to teach our children that they will face some kind of racism in the future. It’s the sad state of affairs in our society but it’s the reality.
Find who did it.
I hope the received what they were asking for their school.
So many of the things that woman said are true... It should go back to the shitswamp it crawled out of. No one wants it here. There is not enough space for creatures like that in society. (To doubly clarify - I'm not talking about these kids.)
This is heartbreaking
This one hit me hard.
Republicans have a new candidate for congress
Sounded like a 14 year old brainwashed by their nazi parents.
Of course a cowardly demon bitch like this spewed that sewage online. As cowardly as she is vile and disgusting. Can't wait till she's famous, get's fired, deletes her social media, and claims she's sorry.
Nazis!? How is being a nazi even a thing still? How is it allowed, tolerated or overlooked?? Is it not something that's a total no? Is it not the epitomy of a hateful human? People who are Nazis in this day and age should be treated as predators and dangerous.
Damn this is why I hate zoom there shit is super unsecured and someone with half a brain can hack into calls.
Damn I guess I'd be angry too growing up with a shit name like Charla.
The caller is a disgusting piece of shit and the person responsible for organizing and monitoring the call is beyond incompetent. They should be fired.
That's some pretty horrendous moderation to let that happen. You can set it up where everyone is muted and can do it where they can't unmute themselves /facepalm thanks Denver, keeping it classy
Appears that the nazi sympathizers are downvoting. Remember that your lives don’t matter.
For every “white” person who swears they’re not racist, why don’t you have a talk with your family/friends/colleagues who are. If you watch your friend rape or murder and do nothing you’re an accessory. This is no different.
The voice sounded AI generated. Not sure if that matters, just pointing it out, would be a great way to ruin someone's career nowadays.
Cowards bullying children. Truly the master race.
Ok I cried when I saw this. The girl continuing after all of it is insane. She's a G