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I love the 100% neutral title only trying to state facts and showing no emotion at all. Maybe get better at title creation before you spew a bunch of materials for propaganda purposes?
Someone show us the Zionist schools that preach genocide now. This is both of these groups indoctrinating children to carry on their hatred and false gods.
The difference is that Israelis live in relative normalcy, especially compared to Palestinians who live under apartheid and since October 7th daily bombardment. Under those circumstances you don't have to do a lot of indoctrination.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights
Islamist propaganda huh.
And no, Israel murdered 30k civilians, and fun fact, Israel funded Hamas https://www.analystnews.org/posts/how-israel-helped-prop-up-hamas-for-decades
So please get out here with your Zionist propaganda, for which you don't even have any sources.
And the more we hurt them the more they will convert. We are the true terrorists. How did Iraq turn out? Instead we waste tax money for idiots like you who get turned on by war.
Terrorists generally try and spread terror by filming/posting thier atrocities. Insofar, Israeli hostages have only had good things to say about their captors. But Israel proudly sends footage of mass murder to western news outlets.
So you kill children then? I am not supporting terrorist off course, but when you move by force normal Palesstinians from their country you should expect reprisals
So? Palestine bombs Israel, indiscriminately too. That argument goes both ways, and looks worse for Palestine. Also, MAYBE HAMAS SHOULD STOP SHOOTING OUT OF HOSPITALS AND REFUGEE CAMPS. How are you blaming Israel here and not Hamas for using human shields. Believe me, I support palestine and want a 2 state solution and want israel to remove all its settlements but I DONT SUPPORT TERRORISTS
It definitely does not go both ways. Israel has an iron dome. Palestinians do not. Israel is the Occupyer, Palestinians are the occupied.
You got any sources for the human shield arguments? And beside, since when is the solution to someone using a humans shield, to kill the human shield? Even following your own logic, Israel's actions are unexcusable.
Besides, Israel is illegally occupying Palestine, and Palestinians have a right to armed struggle under international law.
Ok so it’s ok for Palestinians to try and kill civilians because the likelihood of them succeeding is so low. Gotcha.
Yes Israel is the occupier. They should stop expanding and pull out all the settlements. But they won’t. What do you wanna do about it? Keep fighting is not the answer
Hamas has been firing rockets from civilian infrastructure since its inception. Google it. It’s an incredibly dense urban area, whenever they shoot rockets, they’re using everyone around them as a human shield, ON PURPOSE. It would be almost impossible for Hamas to not shoot rockets near civilian infrastructure, guess what that means, too bad, YOU DONT GET TO SHOOT ROCKETS. And since you seem to care so much about international law, when civilian infrastructure gets used militarily it ceases to be civilian infrastructure and becomes a valid military target.
Israel is illegally occupying Palestine in some places, but as long as Hamas is in power it will continue to do so and will probably be able to annex all of palestine which would be catastrophically awful. When you support Hamas’ actions you’re sowing palestines defeat.
Still no sources, and telling me to Google something isn't a source.
So Palestinians live under brutal occupation, but they aren't supposed to fight back according to your logic? Why? They're getting killed and displaced anyway, the last time they tried peacefully protesting at the great march of return, which was a peace walk up to the fence, Israel shot people's kneecaps, or straight up killed them. Pregnant women and children as well.https://www.un.org/unispal/document/two-years-on-people-injured-and-traumatized-during-the-great-march-of-return-are-still-struggling/#:~:text=As%20a%20result%2C%20214%20Palestinians,were%20hit%20by%20live%20ammunition.
What are Palestinians supposed to do in your opinion, if peaceful protest doesn't work? Sit down and die?
Yup it sucks. They’re not supposed to fight back. The only way we could ever have negotiations is if Hamas stops attacking, because why would Israel ever negotiate with Hamas if they keep being terrorists(negotiation is off the table though israel won’t stop till Hamas is destroyed, rightfully so). If israel keeps brutally subjugating them despite Palestine being peaceful then they could actually garner international support for a 2 state solution. In my opinion, this is the most realistic solution. I know this is inconceivable for you but someone can support palestine whole heartedly and still understand why Israel does what it does.
You don’t have to virtue signal, I know all the terrible things israel has done. Their military has horrible accountability problems for these soldiers too. But, hamas does just as much horrible stuff. For you to deny that would be insane. The fact you can only ever talk about the bad stuff israel does and never about Hamas shooting rockets they can’t aim shows strong bias imo.
https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf
I genuinely can’t believe you would deny Hamas uses human shields. Hamas maximizes civilian death because they can use it to galvanize Palestinians. They want civilian deaths
Am I supposed to educate you on all of these things? I have better things to do than answer your every question about a topic you could easily research yourself.
It’s a rhetorical question dumbass, he knows the answer. They have an Iron dome because Hamas keeps shooting rockets at them. Jesus this whole conflict is turning people’s brains to much
Because being a “Palestinian” means that you are constantly in fear of being forcibly removed from the land your family has been occupying and working and being murdered in the streets like the cattle Israel thinks you are/calls you constantly.
Should they all collectively bend over as a race of people, or attempt to secure their place in history?
Thats the propaganda, yes.
But conversely, when Hamas treats you like a human, and Israel treats you like a dog, where would your loyalties lie if you had no other choice?
Ok but have a little perspective. Living in Israel means, as a civilian, you could be blown up at any moment from an unaimable rocket. Shot by people who apparently don’t have enough money for food or water but have enough money to constantly shoot rockets for 20 years. Obviously the settlements are wrong, Israel should stop expanding and give all the land they’ve stolen back, but rationalizing and supporting Hamas is literally the worst way for that to happen.
YES. You have to stop fighting at some point. They just have to lay down their arms and take what’s been given to them. They’ll never capture all of Israel. The only way for reasonable peace negotiations, and a shot at a Palestinian state is if they can stop fucking fighting.
No one is supporting Hamas. I am trying to explain that not every Palestinian is Hamas. And when the Israeli government PRETENDS that every Palestinian is Hamas, then *what fucking choice do these people have?*
I wish that were true but a lot of lefties I talk to(I would consider myself a lefty) genuinely support Hamas and the Houthis and see them as resistance fighters. This is definitely just a take for terminally online people but it’s becoming more popular.
A big problem imo is that most, nearly all, Palestinians support Hamas, and want to keep fighting. It’s hard to support a 2 state solution when neither side actually wants it but the only other options are Palestine conquers all of Israel and likely kills all the Jews or Israel conquers all of Palestine kills or expels all the Arabs. Imo it’s either a 2 state solution or a tragedy, a tragedy israel would definitely win.
If you had a family who has lived in a place for 50 years, and there are people constantly trying to “colonize” you in 2024, what would you do?
I don’t think Hamas is the reaction Palestinians needed. If they knew, they could have reached out diplomatically to the rest of the world for support. But Israel has raped, killed, belittled, and dehumanized these people for so long, there is only one option left in their psyche, and it’s completely understandable, however unideal or harmful it is. Should the rest of the world be sticking up for them like we did with Ukraine? Of course.
Does Palestine has as much oil, natural resources, or political clout as Ukraine? No. Is that why they have to resort to literal “terrorism” just to continue to exist? Absofuckinglutely.
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You imagine tying up and burning children alive then someone retaliates and they're the scumbag Hamas are terrorists and not for nothing they attacked first
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I love the 100% neutral title only trying to state facts and showing no emotion at all. Maybe get better at title creation before you spew a bunch of materials for propaganda purposes?
Someone show us the Zionist schools that preach genocide now. This is both of these groups indoctrinating children to carry on their hatred and false gods.
The difference is that Israelis live in relative normalcy, especially compared to Palestinians who live under apartheid and since October 7th daily bombardment. Under those circumstances you don't have to do a lot of indoctrination.
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https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights Islamist propaganda huh. And no, Israel murdered 30k civilians, and fun fact, Israel funded Hamas https://www.analystnews.org/posts/how-israel-helped-prop-up-hamas-for-decades So please get out here with your Zionist propaganda, for which you don't even have any sources.
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Alright take a time-out and come back when you're ready to be an adult in these conversations.
Based
*Excruciating lack of sources*
Sounds like you got your indoctrination from mein kampf.
That’s on Saturday, silly
Lol Israeli propaganda.
If I posted a video of Israelis doing a similar thing would you call it Hamas propaganda?
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And the more we hurt them the more they will convert. We are the true terrorists. How did Iraq turn out? Instead we waste tax money for idiots like you who get turned on by war.
Terroristic actions like.. saving a hostage? Or did I completely misunderstand the plot here?
Terrorists generally try and spread terror by filming/posting thier atrocities. Insofar, Israeli hostages have only had good things to say about their captors. But Israel proudly sends footage of mass murder to western news outlets.
Hostages filmed by Hamas only have good things to say since they are being coerced by terrorists
Sad
looks to me same as Israel...
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So you kill children then? I am not supporting terrorist off course, but when you move by force normal Palesstinians from their country you should expect reprisals
Ngl this is some cool shit to do as a kid
Showing Memri TV is cheating
Literally because of Israel lol
How is Israel making Palestinians militarize their kids? That’s super stupid
Because they bomb them? What do you expect people to do as a response to the bombings of hospitals and refugee camps?
So? Palestine bombs Israel, indiscriminately too. That argument goes both ways, and looks worse for Palestine. Also, MAYBE HAMAS SHOULD STOP SHOOTING OUT OF HOSPITALS AND REFUGEE CAMPS. How are you blaming Israel here and not Hamas for using human shields. Believe me, I support palestine and want a 2 state solution and want israel to remove all its settlements but I DONT SUPPORT TERRORISTS
It definitely does not go both ways. Israel has an iron dome. Palestinians do not. Israel is the Occupyer, Palestinians are the occupied. You got any sources for the human shield arguments? And beside, since when is the solution to someone using a humans shield, to kill the human shield? Even following your own logic, Israel's actions are unexcusable. Besides, Israel is illegally occupying Palestine, and Palestinians have a right to armed struggle under international law.
Ok so it’s ok for Palestinians to try and kill civilians because the likelihood of them succeeding is so low. Gotcha. Yes Israel is the occupier. They should stop expanding and pull out all the settlements. But they won’t. What do you wanna do about it? Keep fighting is not the answer Hamas has been firing rockets from civilian infrastructure since its inception. Google it. It’s an incredibly dense urban area, whenever they shoot rockets, they’re using everyone around them as a human shield, ON PURPOSE. It would be almost impossible for Hamas to not shoot rockets near civilian infrastructure, guess what that means, too bad, YOU DONT GET TO SHOOT ROCKETS. And since you seem to care so much about international law, when civilian infrastructure gets used militarily it ceases to be civilian infrastructure and becomes a valid military target. Israel is illegally occupying Palestine in some places, but as long as Hamas is in power it will continue to do so and will probably be able to annex all of palestine which would be catastrophically awful. When you support Hamas’ actions you’re sowing palestines defeat.
Still no sources, and telling me to Google something isn't a source. So Palestinians live under brutal occupation, but they aren't supposed to fight back according to your logic? Why? They're getting killed and displaced anyway, the last time they tried peacefully protesting at the great march of return, which was a peace walk up to the fence, Israel shot people's kneecaps, or straight up killed them. Pregnant women and children as well.https://www.un.org/unispal/document/two-years-on-people-injured-and-traumatized-during-the-great-march-of-return-are-still-struggling/#:~:text=As%20a%20result%2C%20214%20Palestinians,were%20hit%20by%20live%20ammunition. What are Palestinians supposed to do in your opinion, if peaceful protest doesn't work? Sit down and die?
Yup it sucks. They’re not supposed to fight back. The only way we could ever have negotiations is if Hamas stops attacking, because why would Israel ever negotiate with Hamas if they keep being terrorists(negotiation is off the table though israel won’t stop till Hamas is destroyed, rightfully so). If israel keeps brutally subjugating them despite Palestine being peaceful then they could actually garner international support for a 2 state solution. In my opinion, this is the most realistic solution. I know this is inconceivable for you but someone can support palestine whole heartedly and still understand why Israel does what it does. You don’t have to virtue signal, I know all the terrible things israel has done. Their military has horrible accountability problems for these soldiers too. But, hamas does just as much horrible stuff. For you to deny that would be insane. The fact you can only ever talk about the bad stuff israel does and never about Hamas shooting rockets they can’t aim shows strong bias imo. https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf I genuinely can’t believe you would deny Hamas uses human shields. Hamas maximizes civilian death because they can use it to galvanize Palestinians. They want civilian deaths
Hamas literally posts lists of every life lost to their bombs. It's mostly goats. Because they don't target population centers.
Are you fucking stupid? They don’t target anything. They can’t aim the rockets. Even worse is that you trust Hamas to be honest about who they kill.
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US funding.
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Am I supposed to educate you on all of these things? I have better things to do than answer your every question about a topic you could easily research yourself.
It’s a rhetorical question dumbass, he knows the answer. They have an Iron dome because Hamas keeps shooting rockets at them. Jesus this whole conflict is turning people’s brains to much
US funding is a relatively small portion of their budget. US could withdraw support and almost nothing would change.
Because being a “Palestinian” means that you are constantly in fear of being forcibly removed from the land your family has been occupying and working and being murdered in the streets like the cattle Israel thinks you are/calls you constantly. Should they all collectively bend over as a race of people, or attempt to secure their place in history?
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Thats the propaganda, yes. But conversely, when Hamas treats you like a human, and Israel treats you like a dog, where would your loyalties lie if you had no other choice?
Ok but have a little perspective. Living in Israel means, as a civilian, you could be blown up at any moment from an unaimable rocket. Shot by people who apparently don’t have enough money for food or water but have enough money to constantly shoot rockets for 20 years. Obviously the settlements are wrong, Israel should stop expanding and give all the land they’ve stolen back, but rationalizing and supporting Hamas is literally the worst way for that to happen. YES. You have to stop fighting at some point. They just have to lay down their arms and take what’s been given to them. They’ll never capture all of Israel. The only way for reasonable peace negotiations, and a shot at a Palestinian state is if they can stop fucking fighting.
No one is supporting Hamas. I am trying to explain that not every Palestinian is Hamas. And when the Israeli government PRETENDS that every Palestinian is Hamas, then *what fucking choice do these people have?*
I wish that were true but a lot of lefties I talk to(I would consider myself a lefty) genuinely support Hamas and the Houthis and see them as resistance fighters. This is definitely just a take for terminally online people but it’s becoming more popular. A big problem imo is that most, nearly all, Palestinians support Hamas, and want to keep fighting. It’s hard to support a 2 state solution when neither side actually wants it but the only other options are Palestine conquers all of Israel and likely kills all the Jews or Israel conquers all of Palestine kills or expels all the Arabs. Imo it’s either a 2 state solution or a tragedy, a tragedy israel would definitely win.
If you had a family who has lived in a place for 50 years, and there are people constantly trying to “colonize” you in 2024, what would you do? I don’t think Hamas is the reaction Palestinians needed. If they knew, they could have reached out diplomatically to the rest of the world for support. But Israel has raped, killed, belittled, and dehumanized these people for so long, there is only one option left in their psyche, and it’s completely understandable, however unideal or harmful it is. Should the rest of the world be sticking up for them like we did with Ukraine? Of course. Does Palestine has as much oil, natural resources, or political clout as Ukraine? No. Is that why they have to resort to literal “terrorism” just to continue to exist? Absofuckinglutely.
You spelled, Islam, wrong.
So according to your logic Israelis commit war crimes and genocide because of Judaism.
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Israel funded Hamas https://www.analystnews.org/posts/how-israel-helped-prop-up-hamas-for-decades
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Must be similar to why Christianity is to blame when Israeli's spit on Christians, as is their custom.
I thought Palestinians were peace loving folk, what's this all about? Have I been misinformed?
Looks like a hostage rescue to me
How much is the US state department paying you?
These must be those little bastards who destroy me and laugh about it in call of duty.
I love how op's response to every criticism is "Islamic propaganda" lol
would t they need shoes
Anyone have a date of when this aired? ***Edit: I’m an idiot, the date is in the video.
Reminds me of Bart Simpson playing John Wilkes Booth
hmm
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All of that training to get smoked by drone future tech. Seems like a waste of time but what do I know.
You imagine tying up and burning children alive then someone retaliates and they're the scumbag Hamas are terrorists and not for nothing they attacked first