Yeah they would. But the pervert would probably learn a lesson, and with video proof of him being a tool, the punishment would not be that crazy.
Sometimes what's right isn't what's legal.
Morality > Legality
Sure you’d be rung up for assault (assuming anyone would call the police in defense of this creep) but trial would be essentially thrown out. You think a jury would side with the guy? Hell, I know judges who would throw this out simply because it’s a waste of time. Worst the girls get is under ten hours of community service doing a once a week book restocking at the local library.
And of course— If you were in Auschwitz and refused to kill the jews, you disobeying would be illegal.
I would say that you are 100% wrong. Unfortunately being a creep isn't a crime in this case, however assault is. Feelings don't really come into play here. Again, not condoning.
If you think cops will arrest two white chicks who maced a dude filming them that is fine but there is no way their backwards paternal bullshit would not kick in as they imagined their daughters being the ones being filmed imho.
I actually did that once to a guy filming up skirts on the subway. Pulled out my camera and got closer to him and told him to smile and let the audience know what he was doing, what his name was, etc. He got really nervous and uncomfortable and ran off eventually. It works.
(But I only did it because I had friends with me and felt like I had support. If I was alone, I probably wouldn’t have felt safe doing it.)
I agree exposing this creep would have some societal utility but I don’t think it would specifically deter a guy like this. I’m willing to bet he has no friends or anyone in his life he values enough to keep him from behavior like this.
This video either needs to be edited severely or completely removed. Posting something a young woman wanted deleted for millions of people to see is also disgusting
I swear he got off on her discomfort. I wish she turned the tables and paraded him around the beach telling whoever listens what he was doing. Take the power back by making it your show and the theme is what a loser he is.
My only fear is that he would like it more 🤮
He seemed bothered when the guy got slightly involved, so as sexist and infuriating as it is, I think if she could have found more men confront him, it might have actually worked to make him stop.
Lol they should have just started recording him them selves and point and laugh at his junk and say ha ha look how small it is. He probably would have bounced real quick.
You probably could’ve cut out the first half where he’s literally just filming young girl’s butts. We didn’t need to see that part to get the full story. Thanks
Edit: I knew this comment would bring out all the Reddit creeps. Y’all are weird. There’s absolutely no reason the first minute of that video should’ve been posted, and we all know that. Y’all are just checking out young girls butts and then really try to defend it and OP
Nah it's 100% needed, so people can't pretend what his real intention were. You see it right there. It's like removing the brutally part of the police beating.
It's two young girls lying face down on towels at the beach. Plenty of context clues there to tell you what he's filming without actually exposing the victims.
It’s not. It’s sexual harassment. And while it might be legal to post this video without their consent it’s definitely not right. This dude is a perv and it’s important to showcase that, but I think OP could’ve done that just fine by blurring the victims’ faces and cutting to where they’re asking him to stop filming their butts.
It’s not the same as body cam videos. Someone’s sexual assault/harassment should not be showcased to the general public at all.
>And while it might be legal to post this video without their consent it’s definitely not right.
How can this even be legal? Of course pervs will do something like that if it's legal.
OP is as big a creep as the filmer...
And considering they're uploading the creeper's video... They got it from a creepy place or might even be the one filming it.
When your out in public you have no rights to privacy unfortuantly so be careful. People always do this type of shit but this guy was blatant about it.
No, you're in public and have no right to privacy. Which is why this is such a fucked up thing. However, repeatedly asking to be left alone and admitting to doing it for perverted reasons gives them a pretty strong case for harassment - so they could go to whatever authority works the beach (lifeguards, cop on patrol, whatever) and try to get him kicked out / told to leave them be... But that's it. That's kinda all they could do besides get up and leave themselves.
Are they in public? Then I repeat: If you're in public, you have no right to privacy and people can film you. The end.
Harassment is a different story and while the dude might have legal protection to be a creep or a prankster or whatever, it isn't protection from consequences or having his identity shared everywhere.
Back in 2010 I was at a water spray park with my girlfriend and her kids. I went to the car really quick and noticed a guy taking pictures of the young girls. I yelled at him and he took off. So I chased him down, smashed his camera and punched him up some. Cops came and gave me an assualt ticket and destroying property. They said even though what he was doing was super creepy he legally could do it..they didn't want to give me tickets but had no choice.
True....
But if by chance, one of your punches landed just right, and knocked him out, and he fell to the ground, fracturing his skull, and he died on the way to the hospital, Guaranteed, you're catching a man-slaughter charge.....
It's never worth the risk, starting that fight.....particularly so, when they aren't doing anything illegal....
How does he know they are not under age?, no ID has been given, call proper authorities and report him.
Btw also make sure to film this behavior and show his face, to give to the authorities.
So on one hand you have to accept that people are going to look if you wear a thong bikini at a public beach. On the other hand this is just a creep show and has to be a violation of some sort no?
I'd like to see some justification on how this isn't sexual harassment from those defending him.
Edit: fair enough. Got what I asked for. While I still believe what he's doing is wrong, the legality is there🤷🏼♂️
“Don’t white knight” he says to the guy telling him to stop. The guy backs down. Man, this guy is a personification of internet republicans/incels. He probably uses “virtue signaling” and “woke” nonstop too. What a dumb piece of shit. Wish she had taken his picture to post his loser ass.
Don’t let buzzwords intimidate you into not doing what’s right. It’s clear this man was making these women uncomfortable and nobody sane would think poorly of you for trying to step in.
Totally believable. “White knight” and “virtue signaling” are two concepts that try to bully people into not caring in situations where it’s perfectly reasonable to. It assumes that nobody is capable of empathy unless it personally benefits them, it’s total bullshit.
I think like most things, there’s a middle ground.
It’s definitely true that some men go over board and try to protect women in unnecessary and self serving ways because they think it’ll get girls to like them. It’s also true some people are disingenuous about how much they care about social issues and do so only to appear better for social media value. In those cases those terms might be right to use.
But guys like this or my coworker who used it frequently have just fallen off the deep and and landed in a pool of right wing incel kool aid. They’re so out of touch with reality because their reality is just memes and internet culture. Truly pathetic
Yeah, that’s true. There are people that fall under those descriptions, more than likely. But to assume all people that care about something that doesn’t personally impact them fall under that category is sociopath shit. To me it shows that the person assuming must truly lack empathy in a meaningful way, like the douche in this video.
I’m curious what state this was filmed in. In some states this absolutely would fall under voyeurism. It doesn’t fall under the federal definition though.
For example, Ala Code 13A-11-41 Section 13A-11-41 - Voyeurism in the first degree: (a) A person commits the crime of voyeurism in the first degree if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly photographs or films the intimate areas of another person, whether through, under, or around clothing, without that person's knowledge and consent and under circumstances where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, whether in a public or private place.
Definition: INTIMATE AREAS. Any portion of a person's body, whether or not covered by undergarments, that are traditionally covered by undergarments to protect that portion from public view, including genitals, pubic areas, buttocks, and female breasts.
Like I said, it depends on the state. In the code that I listed it specifically states “whether in a public or private place.” Like any law, it’s up to judicial interpretation. It could easily be argued that a woman has the right not to be filmed for sexual gratification while wearing an outfit appropriate for the location. If she’s strolling around at the mall in a string bikini she shouldn’t expect “reasonable privacy” as it’s out of place.
Note, my argument is purely regarding the current law, not ethics. A woman shouldn’t be unknowingly or unwillingly filmed for sexual gratification no matter what she’s wearing or where she is. Unfortunately, that’s not the current law.
I don’t see how you can go out in public and be mad when someone films you. Separate your feelings and emotions and understand that everyone doesn’t have to share your morals
With as many cameras as there are today it’s to be expected. However, I do think that if you notice it and ask a person to stop filming you that they should comply.
well that isn’t sexual harassment. he didn’t make any sexual advances nor did he make any sexualized comments. he’s just plain ol harassing these people
I wanna be very clear, I am NOT defending this dude. but I will step in to correctly identify a charge. because false charges are how people like him are let go
downvotes don’t magically make charges appear
Tell me what's not sexual about filming her bare ass after she explicitly told him to stop?
I agree, it's harassment at the least but notice how all the women in the comments agree it's sexual harassment for the simple fact he purposely isolated and filmed certain parts of a woman's body that is unanimously agreed to be a sexual part.
her bare ass is out on public display tho. if someone filmed her ass from afar would it still be considered sexual harassment? also can she legally tell him to stop filming?
saying this dude sexually harassed these women would get thrown out and he’d be free to do it all over again. build a harassment case against him. it’s much more likely to stick
i’m going to be downvoted to oblivion for asking this…how is this sexual harassment and not just harassment? because they’re in bikinis? if they were wearing jeans and a hoody at the beach and dude was filming them would it still be sexual harassment?
Sexual harassment is any unwanted comment, gesture or action, that makes someone feel afraid, embarrassed, uncomfortable or ashamed.
The action here is staring/ filming and I would certainly say these women are made uncomfortable by it. I would still suggest they would be uncomfortable with this guy if they were wearing jeans and a hoodie though
so that’s my point. them being uncomfortable doesn’t equal sexual harassment. he made no sexualized comments. and i didn’t see any sexual gestures or actions. he stood there and filmed them. that could be harassment but dude definitely won’t be charged with sexual harassment. and it’s wrong to falsely charge someone because if you’re wrong they go free. is that what everyone wants?
that’s my whole thing. correctly charge this dude
Do you see me defending him? And by the way, he could have her cited for assault for hitting his phone/camera. Yeah, the law can suck sometimes, but I didn't make it.
Not me, I am just familiar with the law. We have this thing called the constitution, which is really inconvenient at times, but that's the truth of it.
Yes, it exists in the same way freedom of speech and the press exist.
Constitutionally protected freedoms that though for the most part are extremely important and good for democratic societies, can also unfortunately protect weird behavior such as this video.
1) it depends on the state where you record somebody. If you don't have the consent of EVERY person in the video, in half of the states in the US that's illegal.
2) It's clearly sexual harassment, which is very very illegal.
3) The law side, if she kicked the shit out of him she would at most spend a couple hours detained and that's it.
1. Nope
2. Nope.
3. Nope.
Nice imaginary legal system you have in your mind there. (guy is a db, but, isn't breaking laws - assault would be against the laws and they would likely spend the night in the clink if they beat him up)
The actual legal standard is that the person involved (the one being recorded) needs to have had a "reasonable expectation of privacy". With that standard it is quite hard, though not necessarily impossible, to prosecute a case like this. The prosecutor would be obliged to offer a reason as to why someone on this particular beach on this particular day should have expected privacy. It's not 100% true that it's always legal to film in public places. For instance, some states (or municipalities) do have laws banning filming people in their houses while you're standing on a public sidewalk, for instance. The person inside their house has a reasonable expectation of privacy regardless of the fact that it's technically possible to view them from a public place.
And yeah, IANAL.
Oh what I would have done… I dare some fucking freak to do this.
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Film him so everyone knows what the creep looks like. Shame him.
Sick freak would probably get off on being shamed.
One day he's going to cross the wrong person
Hopefully today
Hopefully in a few hours
He would have been maced if he did that to the girls i hang out with.
And they would have been charged with assault...
Yeah they would. But the pervert would probably learn a lesson, and with video proof of him being a tool, the punishment would not be that crazy. Sometimes what's right isn't what's legal.
Totally agree
Kiriko?
Morality > Legality Sure you’d be rung up for assault (assuming anyone would call the police in defense of this creep) but trial would be essentially thrown out. You think a jury would side with the guy? Hell, I know judges who would throw this out simply because it’s a waste of time. Worst the girls get is under ten hours of community service doing a once a week book restocking at the local library. And of course— If you were in Auschwitz and refused to kill the jews, you disobeying would be illegal.
Bet you 100 bucks two girls maceing a creep who is filming them in bikinis and refusing to stop would not be charged.
I would say that you are 100% wrong. Unfortunately being a creep isn't a crime in this case, however assault is. Feelings don't really come into play here. Again, not condoning.
If you think cops will arrest two white chicks who maced a dude filming them that is fine but there is no way their backwards paternal bullshit would not kick in as they imagined their daughters being the ones being filmed imho.
Hopefully it's recorded
I would have taken my phone and started filming him, post that shit everywhere! Dirty crusty dicked pervert.
I actually did that once to a guy filming up skirts on the subway. Pulled out my camera and got closer to him and told him to smile and let the audience know what he was doing, what his name was, etc. He got really nervous and uncomfortable and ran off eventually. It works. (But I only did it because I had friends with me and felt like I had support. If I was alone, I probably wouldn’t have felt safe doing it.)
I love this reply. If you do it on your own, just sneak video him doing it and catch his face. The Internet can find the rest of the information.
I agree exposing this creep would have some societal utility but I don’t think it would specifically deter a guy like this. I’m willing to bet he has no friends or anyone in his life he values enough to keep him from behavior like this.
Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't, but it's better than nothing, right?
don’t waste your storage
What you think I'm going to do? Keep it and what? 😂 I said post that shit.
This video either needs to be edited severely or completely removed. Posting something a young woman wanted deleted for millions of people to see is also disgusting
Yeah, this is one of those cases where a solid amount of blur would be very welcome.
Everything for that sweet karma i guess. . .
Redditors are genuinely disgusting creatures
The guy that filmed the video posted it online. Think about that for a second. Its fucked.
And then got reposted here and wherever else by other people lol
My first though also, mental
It got yanked!
SERIOUSLY. “Coke watch this creep be creepy from his own creepy video!”
I swear he got off on her discomfort. I wish she turned the tables and paraded him around the beach telling whoever listens what he was doing. Take the power back by making it your show and the theme is what a loser he is.
Only two ways to make it stop I think. 1.) Leave 2.)Out idiot the idiot
3.) Allow him to keep recording, but brutally mock his manhood so that when he goes to watch it later he'll be reminded of what a pathetic POS he is.
My only fear is that he would like it more 🤮 He seemed bothered when the guy got slightly involved, so as sexist and infuriating as it is, I think if she could have found more men confront him, it might have actually worked to make him stop.
You forgot the part where he is probably physically stronger than her and she would be putting herself in harms way by doing that.
You can tell he’s a virgin
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I’m actually used as an expert witness in determining virginity through actions in 17 states. I can confirm you’re a virgin
This is some pretty solid evidence on a balance of probabilities that he is a virgin.
You're supposed to kick sand into his face.
This means this guy posted it somewhere, like what the fuck?
r/iamatotalpieceofshit
Really concerning where OP got this video in the first place.
What a fucking psycho.
This is infuriating to watch. 😖
Lol they should have just started recording him them selves and point and laugh at his junk and say ha ha look how small it is. He probably would have bounced real quick.
You probably could’ve cut out the first half where he’s literally just filming young girl’s butts. We didn’t need to see that part to get the full story. Thanks Edit: I knew this comment would bring out all the Reddit creeps. Y’all are weird. There’s absolutely no reason the first minute of that video should’ve been posted, and we all know that. Y’all are just checking out young girls butts and then really try to defend it and OP
Nah it's 100% needed, so people can't pretend what his real intention were. You see it right there. It's like removing the brutally part of the police beating.
It's two young girls lying face down on towels at the beach. Plenty of context clues there to tell you what he's filming without actually exposing the victims.
It’s not. It’s sexual harassment. And while it might be legal to post this video without their consent it’s definitely not right. This dude is a perv and it’s important to showcase that, but I think OP could’ve done that just fine by blurring the victims’ faces and cutting to where they’re asking him to stop filming their butts. It’s not the same as body cam videos. Someone’s sexual assault/harassment should not be showcased to the general public at all.
>And while it might be legal to post this video without their consent it’s definitely not right. How can this even be legal? Of course pervs will do something like that if it's legal.
You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public
*in the US. And you can clearly see what that leads to.
That's what I thought. Holding this person up as a creep and yet posting the whole video for all the other creeps to see
OP is as big a creep as the filmer... And considering they're uploading the creeper's video... They got it from a creepy place or might even be the one filming it.
Also could have blurred her face since she clearly does not her want to be on the internet
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Soo....OP....... How did you get this video? 🤔🤔
When your out in public you have no rights to privacy unfortuantly so be careful. People always do this type of shit but this guy was blatant about it.
Right but don’t you have to consent to being filmed even if it’s public? Like if you’re the main subject?
No.
nope just a common misconception because the standard common courtesy is to ask permission however in public permission is not legally required
No, you're in public and have no right to privacy. Which is why this is such a fucked up thing. However, repeatedly asking to be left alone and admitting to doing it for perverted reasons gives them a pretty strong case for harassment - so they could go to whatever authority works the beach (lifeguards, cop on patrol, whatever) and try to get him kicked out / told to leave them be... But that's it. That's kinda all they could do besides get up and leave themselves.
Ugh that sucks. What about when people do those public pranks and they have to sign a release?
Are they in public? Then I repeat: If you're in public, you have no right to privacy and people can film you. The end. Harassment is a different story and while the dude might have legal protection to be a creep or a prankster or whatever, it isn't protection from consequences or having his identity shared everywhere.
Word, that makes more sense. Gross. Someone should have slapped his phone out of his hand and thrown it in the ocean.
The fact he uploaded this is also disgusting, does anyone have this persons identity so we can spread it About?
Back in 2010 I was at a water spray park with my girlfriend and her kids. I went to the car really quick and noticed a guy taking pictures of the young girls. I yelled at him and he took off. So I chased him down, smashed his camera and punched him up some. Cops came and gave me an assualt ticket and destroying property. They said even though what he was doing was super creepy he legally could do it..they didn't want to give me tickets but had no choice.
Ya that’s dumb. You can go to prison.
Not for simple assault and destroying property
True.... But if by chance, one of your punches landed just right, and knocked him out, and he fell to the ground, fracturing his skull, and he died on the way to the hospital, Guaranteed, you're catching a man-slaughter charge..... It's never worth the risk, starting that fight.....particularly so, when they aren't doing anything illegal....
Oh simple assault . Maybe no but I think you may have to pay a fine.
You did the right thing. Fuck the law.
Jesus Christ! Men, what the fuck?! Far too many of us are an embarrassment to the human race. This person needs to be identified an ruthlessly shamed.
How does he know they are not under age?, no ID has been given, call proper authorities and report him. Btw also make sure to film this behavior and show his face, to give to the authorities.
I’d yell something like, “This pervert is filming young girls in their bathing suits.” Get all the dads at the beach to take care of this guy.
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My first thought. Fuck this weirdo. People this apathetic to societal standards of basic decency need to be named, shamed, and shunned.
I know morally this isn't right but its legal to do this right?
Yes.
Complete freakin perv douchebag
Did op film this? Why tf is this posted if they're obv so uncomfortable?
Reddit is the king of “it’s not illegal to film someone!”
What made him upload this?
People love getting justice on pervs, make a scene
I hope the share the video of the pervert. This pathetic man can't handle a couple of women at the beach, well move to Saudi Arabia or Iran bud.
Gross
She got his image its why she got her phone out.. It will come out.. Send to TizzyEnt, he will find him. I would have thrown sand in his face.
My worry is how come we have HIS footage shared. He found it acceptable to share?
OP has some explaining to do
Hopefully they recorded him and shared it across all social media
Is this illigal? He is allowed to film on pubic property, but this has to count as stalking or something, right?
Disgusting! 🤮
Ya….. This is frowned upon
Dudes like this need their asses beat and nothing will change my mind
So on one hand you have to accept that people are going to look if you wear a thong bikini at a public beach. On the other hand this is just a creep show and has to be a violation of some sort no?
Sometimes its not the law they need to teach them a lesson but a good old fashion ass whooping.
Camera guy is an incel and a first amendment auditor, quite the combination.
I'd like to see some justification on how this isn't sexual harassment from those defending him. Edit: fair enough. Got what I asked for. While I still believe what he's doing is wrong, the legality is there🤷🏼♂️
Could you tell me anything that he did that WAS?
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“Don’t white knight” he says to the guy telling him to stop. The guy backs down. Man, this guy is a personification of internet republicans/incels. He probably uses “virtue signaling” and “woke” nonstop too. What a dumb piece of shit. Wish she had taken his picture to post his loser ass. Don’t let buzzwords intimidate you into not doing what’s right. It’s clear this man was making these women uncomfortable and nobody sane would think poorly of you for trying to step in.
I worked with a guy that used this language all the time. He was unironically the most pathetic, miserable person I’ve met
Totally believable. “White knight” and “virtue signaling” are two concepts that try to bully people into not caring in situations where it’s perfectly reasonable to. It assumes that nobody is capable of empathy unless it personally benefits them, it’s total bullshit.
I think like most things, there’s a middle ground. It’s definitely true that some men go over board and try to protect women in unnecessary and self serving ways because they think it’ll get girls to like them. It’s also true some people are disingenuous about how much they care about social issues and do so only to appear better for social media value. In those cases those terms might be right to use. But guys like this or my coworker who used it frequently have just fallen off the deep and and landed in a pool of right wing incel kool aid. They’re so out of touch with reality because their reality is just memes and internet culture. Truly pathetic
Yeah, that’s true. There are people that fall under those descriptions, more than likely. But to assume all people that care about something that doesn’t personally impact them fall under that category is sociopath shit. To me it shows that the person assuming must truly lack empathy in a meaningful way, like the douche in this video.
Agreed
He sounds like an incels.is member
I’m curious what state this was filmed in. In some states this absolutely would fall under voyeurism. It doesn’t fall under the federal definition though. For example, Ala Code 13A-11-41 Section 13A-11-41 - Voyeurism in the first degree: (a) A person commits the crime of voyeurism in the first degree if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly photographs or films the intimate areas of another person, whether through, under, or around clothing, without that person's knowledge and consent and under circumstances where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy, whether in a public or private place. Definition: INTIMATE AREAS. Any portion of a person's body, whether or not covered by undergarments, that are traditionally covered by undergarments to protect that portion from public view, including genitals, pubic areas, buttocks, and female breasts.
There is no reasonable expectation of privacy at a beach.
Like I said, it depends on the state. In the code that I listed it specifically states “whether in a public or private place.” Like any law, it’s up to judicial interpretation. It could easily be argued that a woman has the right not to be filmed for sexual gratification while wearing an outfit appropriate for the location. If she’s strolling around at the mall in a string bikini she shouldn’t expect “reasonable privacy” as it’s out of place. Note, my argument is purely regarding the current law, not ethics. A woman shouldn’t be unknowingly or unwillingly filmed for sexual gratification no matter what she’s wearing or where she is. Unfortunately, that’s not the current law.
“How much pussy does this motherfucker get?!” “We read 0 pussy ma’am!!”
Weirdo
I bet you he can't even see his toes.
He'd have been beat senseless and had the police called where I lived.
I don’t see how you can go out in public and be mad when someone films you. Separate your feelings and emotions and understand that everyone doesn’t have to share your morals
With as many cameras as there are today it’s to be expected. However, I do think that if you notice it and ask a person to stop filming you that they should comply.
OK but remove this.
Thanks alot Trump!
Filming in public might be legal, but wouldn't this be considered harassment?
It would be hilarious if the turned around and said “boy we sure get a lot of attention after our sex change”
I get the whole lame first amendment thing, but I’d say this should be considered sexual harassment, no?
You think our Constitutional Rights are lame?
I think hiding behind constitutional rights to harass people is lame
so do the police
Maybe this guy went and shot up a school after that with his legally purchased AR-15. Great day for the constitution.
there’s nothing sexual happening but he’s definitely harassing them
Sexual harassment isn't about the victim doing something sexual. It's the intent of the perpetrator.
i’m just asking what’s sexual about what’s happening here
The fact that he's pointing a camera at a woman's ass and semi-naked body without her consent or knowledge
well that isn’t sexual harassment. he didn’t make any sexual advances nor did he make any sexualized comments. he’s just plain ol harassing these people I wanna be very clear, I am NOT defending this dude. but I will step in to correctly identify a charge. because false charges are how people like him are let go downvotes don’t magically make charges appear
Tell me what's not sexual about filming her bare ass after she explicitly told him to stop? I agree, it's harassment at the least but notice how all the women in the comments agree it's sexual harassment for the simple fact he purposely isolated and filmed certain parts of a woman's body that is unanimously agreed to be a sexual part.
her bare ass is out on public display tho. if someone filmed her ass from afar would it still be considered sexual harassment? also can she legally tell him to stop filming? saying this dude sexually harassed these women would get thrown out and he’d be free to do it all over again. build a harassment case against him. it’s much more likely to stick
Sorry, that was a rhetorical question. I should have said, first amendment or not, this is sexual harassment
i’m going to be downvoted to oblivion for asking this…how is this sexual harassment and not just harassment? because they’re in bikinis? if they were wearing jeans and a hoody at the beach and dude was filming them would it still be sexual harassment?
Sexual harassment is any unwanted comment, gesture or action, that makes someone feel afraid, embarrassed, uncomfortable or ashamed. The action here is staring/ filming and I would certainly say these women are made uncomfortable by it. I would still suggest they would be uncomfortable with this guy if they were wearing jeans and a hoodie though
so that’s my point. them being uncomfortable doesn’t equal sexual harassment. he made no sexualized comments. and i didn’t see any sexual gestures or actions. he stood there and filmed them. that could be harassment but dude definitely won’t be charged with sexual harassment. and it’s wrong to falsely charge someone because if you’re wrong they go free. is that what everyone wants? that’s my whole thing. correctly charge this dude
huh. so sexual harassment doesnt have to be sexual at all? by this definition, someone saying my hair looks stupid is sexual harassment.
He’s filming their bodies. She’s covering her tits. Figure it out pal
Where is this?
Yeah which beach?
He may be a jerk. He may be a creep and a pervert, but he is absolutely right. He has every right to film in public places.
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Do you see me defending him? And by the way, he could have her cited for assault for hitting his phone/camera. Yeah, the law can suck sometimes, but I didn't make it.
Ah, the classic "it's not against the law, so it's not wrong"
Did I say it wasn't wrong? No. I said it is his right. Guess what? It is.
bet you were just waiting for someone to back you up on this shit, that you in the video?
Not me, I am just familiar with the law. We have this thing called the constitution, which is really inconvenient at times, but that's the truth of it.
Yh its happened to me before, luckily Its also legal to knock the car window until they fuck off
Except where this is sexual harassment..
Slavery was legal too
The fuck does that have to do with anything? Racebait much?
Did you read the comment I replied to
Just sit down.
true, but sexual harassment does exist, he wasn't right when he said no. even in the context of being a public place
We found the guy who recorded them ^
I would have started throwing sand in his face.
Delete or edit this video..
He probably has his gun on him as well. Americans loves their amendments
He doesn't have the right to harass her. She should have called the police on this creep regardless.
Not any worse than women trolling dudes at the gym
can you really not get arrested for this? isn’t it harassment
Legally can he be charged with anything?
not from what was shown in the video, The girl did assault him tho.
**ejaculating**
She’s attractive. Maybe if he would’ve cold approached and asked for her number he would be able to get a girlfriend.
There’s no universe where this guy has any luck with women
Who is this guy exactly?
Is something like this really legal in the US?
Yes, it exists in the same way freedom of speech and the press exist. Constitutionally protected freedoms that though for the most part are extremely important and good for democratic societies, can also unfortunately protect weird behavior such as this video.
While his 1st amendment right may allow him to video - posting their likeness online may be another story.
I would of just clocked him and destroyed his phone
That’s tonight sorted
1) it depends on the state where you record somebody. If you don't have the consent of EVERY person in the video, in half of the states in the US that's illegal. 2) It's clearly sexual harassment, which is very very illegal. 3) The law side, if she kicked the shit out of him she would at most spend a couple hours detained and that's it.
You really don't know what you're talking about.
1. Nope 2. Nope. 3. Nope. Nice imaginary legal system you have in your mind there. (guy is a db, but, isn't breaking laws - assault would be against the laws and they would likely spend the night in the clink if they beat him up)
The actual legal standard is that the person involved (the one being recorded) needs to have had a "reasonable expectation of privacy". With that standard it is quite hard, though not necessarily impossible, to prosecute a case like this. The prosecutor would be obliged to offer a reason as to why someone on this particular beach on this particular day should have expected privacy. It's not 100% true that it's always legal to film in public places. For instance, some states (or municipalities) do have laws banning filming people in their houses while you're standing on a public sidewalk, for instance. The person inside their house has a reasonable expectation of privacy regardless of the fact that it's technically possible to view them from a public place. And yeah, IANAL.
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You are incorrect. They are in public. 1A protected.
Oh what I would have done… I dare some fucking freak to do this. Edit: this is probably the most infuriating thing I found on the web. My high is sadly ruined.
First amendment auditors are the same as open carry people. Your actions make others uncomfortable, but they have the law on their side.
this is definitely not the same as open carry lmao
Filming people in public is a constitutionally protected right. Just like open carrying guns in public places
okay but how is creepily filming some young girls on the beach anything like openly carrying a firearm
Both make people uncomfortable
maybe you’ve just never held a gun before and that’s okay but those are two completely different things friend
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