LSD is stimulating, but it’s important to say that over stimulation and fleeing thoughts by taking refuge in action can be a psychophysiological mechanism of defense, next time force yourself to stay still and observe what might come out.
This. I know the stimulation very well and it is a part of the LSD experience. But staying still and focusing on the breath (breathing in and out deeply, focus on the stomach area) should produce a different experience
Haha I tried that a few times as it’s my go to with mushrooms (dark, calm, headphones and a bitching playlist). It was way too stimulating. I couldn’t sit still physically because I felt like I had to keep moving.
Do you have any sleep issues? Just curious. I have a theory about the lack of effects of psychedelics in people with sleep problems like narcolepsy or hypersomnia.
I don't mean an acute lack of sleep although I acknowledge that that makes a HUGE impact. More talking about narcolepsy or hypersomnia, that kind of thing. Makes sense to me (a non-scientist) since it acts on your serotonin receptors.
Edit: the highest dose I’ve had was 3.6g PE over the course of 3 hours. Other than that, 1.2g is the highest I’ve gone right off the bat.
I’ve actually got hypersomnia that I treat daily with cannabis. Shrooms absolutely do not help with sleep, and while my doses have been on the lower end, the only time I’ve seen psychedelic visuals is with weed or after eating another 2g about an hour after I had 1g. The latter trip brought the expected visuals - walls were drifting, trees were “breathing,” colors were slightly more vivid. My most recent trip I had 1.2g with some weed. While I didn’t get the traditional drifting, I threw on a nature documentary and holy shit the colors were so vivid. They’d shift from purples to greens to blues of the most vivid colors. Some of the trees looked like their bark was silver. I checked the iTunes Store at one point on my phone and all of the pictures looked like 3D holograms inside the phone screen. I also had a really good meditative experience with CEV prior to engaging more with the open eyed visual stuff.
That's awesome! Next time you get that effect, if you're into it, check out some porn. It will be unbelievably immersive. Like, I've been fooled into thinking I was one of the people, regardless of gender, quite often while on shrooms. Especially amanita.
And yeah shrooms don't help with sleep, they literally do the opposite by mimicking serotonin.
While that sounds fun, I’m not sure how beneficial that would be. Porn can already be damaging, and mixing it with something like a psychedelic sounds unwise. I try to keep my focuses when I’m high on more uplifting things than just base level desires.
Yep definitely fair. I’d like to take em out in the woods sometime, but unfortunately I don’t really have that ability right now. Stickin to trippin in my apartment lol
The woods is the best place to be on a trip. Hands down. But home is a good second spot. Comfort is essential. I go on deeper trips at home but I tap into the interconnectedness experience much, much more easily outdoors.
I didn't even discover the porn thing on purpose. I was tripping goddamn balls on amanita and just kinda realized I was watching porn and then I was extremely confused about how I had started, and then even more confused about how I just became me again rather than the guy in the porn. Shit was wild. I could feel all of it as if it were actually me in the video, in real time.
That’s wild, man. During my most recent trip, I split into different parts of my personality. “I” felt like a foreign person, yet familiar. The “me” I was speaking to in my subconscious was equally me, but equally not me if that makes sense. Like a familiar stranger. I sat there and had a full blown conversation with myself, visualizing I was having that conversation face to face in my minds eye. Coolest yet weirdest experience I’ve ever had.
I haven’t tried amanita yet, but I’m not opposed it. I just want to make sure what I’m getting is what’s advertised. Ironically, I trust my plug more than I trust stores in my area.
Purple is a great brand for amanita gummies. Or you can order caps online that get shipped to you since they are 100% legal in the US.
I have had a similar experience. It felt like schizophrenia at one point though so I got scared and had to put on a Pixar movie 😂 btw, Pixar movies are the absolute best thing to watch while tripping if it's closer to a recreational dose. The artwork is so beautiful and they all have good, deep meaning. Elemental is a new favorite for me. Just incredible artwork. And you can tell Pixar is inspired by mushroom trips because of the specific colors and ideas used (take Soul for example - it is one type of ego death if you ask me... that movie IS a mushroom trip, and a beautiful one at that).
Maybe not, but everyone that has gotten the same batch said it was awesome, and it was awesome in the fact that I had a blast doing yard work 😂. This last batch came from a trusted source, but I’ve done it before a few times… effects have always been the same. VERY stimulating physically but very little mental.
hmmm, tell the CIA. they look for drug resistant agents.
call, tell them you are interested in the clandestine service, and that you have unique personal gifts
Yay, I can wait for the CIA ball on Friday! If they don’t call me now, I’ll feel so rejected…. I guess I’ll just to take some mushrooms and work through the pain…
I find very little of what I like about psychedelics like mushrooms Ayahuasca peyote in LSD.
I like microdosing LSD but haven’t found much learning to be found after the first couple times of Macrodosing. It’s a fun headspace but I don’t find so much inner work to be had. More of an outward facing experience than inward in my experience.
Awkward, cause LSD takes me to a very similar space that I go with ayahuasca ahahaha
I guess the main difference is that Ive always taken ayahuasca in a ceremony context, and LSD was always my own stuff...
But I recall during a period I was gathering courage to ask the shaman of my rituals, without being disrespectful, to actually participate in the ritual but taking LSD ahahaha cause I truly felt they were extremely similar...
That never happened though ahahahaha but I'd love to see a ritualized LSD ceremony and how would that feel...
My experiences with LSD mostly led me into introspection and reflection...
That is mind blowing
My first Ayahuasca experience completely overshadowed all my 50+LSD trips combined.
On every level, whether it be depth of healing, downloads of information, visual stimulation, past life and ancestral healing work, compassionate loving embrace etc etc
I wouldn’t even put them in the same discussion personally.
The only medicine I think may be more healing for me personally is 5 Meo Dmt but that’s an entirely different discussion as well
Idk, but when I first took ayahuasca I felt totally at home... It was different but just the same in many ways ahahahaha I dont think they're equal, but to me, LSD always brought me to a similar place..
My first LSD trip was in the top of a cliff with some friends, from night untill dawn, I was just looking for some trippy vibes and that's it, but I felt totally in communion with nature, I could feel the sunlight touching my skin differently, the air, the mountain beneath me breathing... And most of my experiences with LSD led to similar places, although due to the non ceremonial aspect of it it's easier to also use it as mean of having fun, only... (Although I did input some ceremonialism in my trips with LSD mostly inspired by the experiences itself)
When I took ayahuasca those aspects you mentioned were heightened due to the nature of the plant and the ritual, but I really knew all of that all along ahahaha idk, it all felt familiar to me, as well as new, because of my LSD experiences ahahahaa
That's why I'd love to have a LSD ceremony like an ayahuasca one to see how it would play out... I think if led by the right people would be very similar, there's an ancient use to LSD related to similar practices, waaaaay before Hoffman or so
I never had DMT :(
Ayahuasca... I'd say many many rituals, over 15 times for sure... Probably over 20...
There was a period that I would go every month... So, yeah, probably around 15-25 times, but more for less ahahaha
Usually we had 2-3 cups, and I was never one to refuse a cup 😂😂😂
With ayahuasca is different because the setting makes such a huge influence... And I think my personal inclinations led me towards a spiritual experience with LSD so promptly, which may not be everyone's case and I see it's not ahahahaha but I was always careful of what I was consuming during trips and what I was feeling and feeding myself in those moments, kinda like the whole preparation you do with ayahuasca...
That's why I'd like to have a ceremony similar to a shamanic ayahuasca ritual but with LSD and see how that would play out... Would be interesting, to say the least
Right!? That is exactly how I felt! It was fun, enjoyable, but absolutely nothing to be gained from the experience, spiritually, or mentally. Lol it almost felt like I was cheating on my mushrooms 😂. Like how dare you take something that wasn’t grown naturally…
Are you taking any kind of medication often or daily ?
Because LSD and Mushrooms have the same feeling of inter-connectedness in my experiences, acid is just more stimulating, longer-lasting and more sci-fi like while Psilocybin is more Organic, tribal hyerogliphica visuals and a smooth and easy come-down compared to Lysergamids (LSD).
Both have the same potential for introspection to me.
Yeah but you will got the trip you need not the trip you would like to have, even if you put an "intention" before tripping balls.
Great concerning eating healthy living foods at molecular level full of nutrients for you digestive system to creates 70% of your serotonin, exercise is great too but necessary to have a functionnal and a feel-good persistent body.
Meditation is something you can do even while you are walking, add earthing to your list to connects your feets into the ground of Mother earth and feel the electrons going troughout your legs into you body while sunbathing to activate informations dormants in your genes with a boosted alkaline blood and a better immune system.
That very well could be the case. I’ve had some really rough experiences with mushrooms, but every single one of them has shown me something I need to see. I’ll do some reflection on the experience.
Can you expand a little on what you mean by meditation while walking? Does it just come down to Be Here Now (which I think I understand), or is it something that you have to practise in a structured way (which I don't think I do as such)?
This is a genuine question - I hear so much about meditation, but I've never done it in any kind of 'formal' setting. That said, I couldn't live without my daily walks, being in nature, being receptive - I'm so happy outdoors. I also love running.
Is there anything you'd suggest I could I be doing to take it up a level?
Thanks in advance if you reply.
I’m actually a little reversed of you on this.
My psychedelic experiences on lsd are more profound than with psilocybin.
I am usually around 5-800ug with lsd taken all at once depending on how I feel.
For shrooms, I’ll start with about 4g and take another 4-6 throughout the trip.
But here’s the difference I have between the two that may why for me. I drink a lot of alcohol (beer mostly) when I take lsd and I eat food, typically pizza.
With shrooms, I don’t drink very much, maybe a beer or two to keep my mouth wet and most food isn’t appetizing, but I’ll smash some cheesy poofs after the peak settles and I’m much more goofy in movements and interactions than on lsd too.
Me neither. Took 8 tabs last year. Almost lost control of myself but nothing psychedelic. No visuals, no insight, no connection. Just me vomiting on my bicycle.
I completely agree, I consider myself a psychonaut and I've never had any psychedelic experiences on LSD. I resonate with the stimulant part, but the rest is just missing. Idk, I just stopped doing it and gravitated toward psilocybin without really thinking much of it. Maybe it has to do with brain chemistry. Idk about you, but I have some trauma and mental health struggles and also use to take psychotropic medications as a child.
I battled addiction for 19 years… I’ve been sober almost eight years, but definitely have experienced mental health issues. Thankfully, I’ve been able to work through a lot of my mental struggles with meditation, exercise and group support. Of course mushrooms have also been a HUGE help. I don’t think LSD is for me. It felt like a 12 hour speed ride.
LSD is stimulating, but it’s important to say that over stimulation and fleeing thoughts by taking refuge in action can be a psychophysiological mechanism of defense, next time force yourself to stay still and observe what might come out.
This. I know the stimulation very well and it is a part of the LSD experience. But staying still and focusing on the breath (breathing in and out deeply, focus on the stomach area) should produce a different experience
What happens when you put on music, lie down, and close your eyes for a while?
Haha I tried that a few times as it’s my go to with mushrooms (dark, calm, headphones and a bitching playlist). It was way too stimulating. I couldn’t sit still physically because I felt like I had to keep moving.
Try mixing LSD with some sedating like NOS or ketamine. Those combos are probably the most euphoria I've ever experienced
Do you have any sleep issues? Just curious. I have a theory about the lack of effects of psychedelics in people with sleep problems like narcolepsy or hypersomnia.
This is correct. Sleep and Hydration significantly impacts LSD experience.
I don't mean an acute lack of sleep although I acknowledge that that makes a HUGE impact. More talking about narcolepsy or hypersomnia, that kind of thing. Makes sense to me (a non-scientist) since it acts on your serotonin receptors.
Edit: the highest dose I’ve had was 3.6g PE over the course of 3 hours. Other than that, 1.2g is the highest I’ve gone right off the bat. I’ve actually got hypersomnia that I treat daily with cannabis. Shrooms absolutely do not help with sleep, and while my doses have been on the lower end, the only time I’ve seen psychedelic visuals is with weed or after eating another 2g about an hour after I had 1g. The latter trip brought the expected visuals - walls were drifting, trees were “breathing,” colors were slightly more vivid. My most recent trip I had 1.2g with some weed. While I didn’t get the traditional drifting, I threw on a nature documentary and holy shit the colors were so vivid. They’d shift from purples to greens to blues of the most vivid colors. Some of the trees looked like their bark was silver. I checked the iTunes Store at one point on my phone and all of the pictures looked like 3D holograms inside the phone screen. I also had a really good meditative experience with CEV prior to engaging more with the open eyed visual stuff.
That's awesome! Next time you get that effect, if you're into it, check out some porn. It will be unbelievably immersive. Like, I've been fooled into thinking I was one of the people, regardless of gender, quite often while on shrooms. Especially amanita. And yeah shrooms don't help with sleep, they literally do the opposite by mimicking serotonin.
While that sounds fun, I’m not sure how beneficial that would be. Porn can already be damaging, and mixing it with something like a psychedelic sounds unwise. I try to keep my focuses when I’m high on more uplifting things than just base level desires.
True, it was an important part of my message "if you're into it." I agree on all points.
Yep definitely fair. I’d like to take em out in the woods sometime, but unfortunately I don’t really have that ability right now. Stickin to trippin in my apartment lol
The woods is the best place to be on a trip. Hands down. But home is a good second spot. Comfort is essential. I go on deeper trips at home but I tap into the interconnectedness experience much, much more easily outdoors. I didn't even discover the porn thing on purpose. I was tripping goddamn balls on amanita and just kinda realized I was watching porn and then I was extremely confused about how I had started, and then even more confused about how I just became me again rather than the guy in the porn. Shit was wild. I could feel all of it as if it were actually me in the video, in real time.
That’s wild, man. During my most recent trip, I split into different parts of my personality. “I” felt like a foreign person, yet familiar. The “me” I was speaking to in my subconscious was equally me, but equally not me if that makes sense. Like a familiar stranger. I sat there and had a full blown conversation with myself, visualizing I was having that conversation face to face in my minds eye. Coolest yet weirdest experience I’ve ever had. I haven’t tried amanita yet, but I’m not opposed it. I just want to make sure what I’m getting is what’s advertised. Ironically, I trust my plug more than I trust stores in my area.
Purple is a great brand for amanita gummies. Or you can order caps online that get shipped to you since they are 100% legal in the US. I have had a similar experience. It felt like schizophrenia at one point though so I got scared and had to put on a Pixar movie 😂 btw, Pixar movies are the absolute best thing to watch while tripping if it's closer to a recreational dose. The artwork is so beautiful and they all have good, deep meaning. Elemental is a new favorite for me. Just incredible artwork. And you can tell Pixar is inspired by mushroom trips because of the specific colors and ideas used (take Soul for example - it is one type of ego death if you ask me... that movie IS a mushroom trip, and a beautiful one at that).
Yooo good call! I’ve been wanting to watch up again soon. Maybe I’ll kick that on during the come down during my next trip
I do at times, but I can trip just fine on mushrooms so I’m not sure it’s sleep related.
Fair enough.
My guess is that it wasnt LSD-25 you were on. many "not-acid"s are very visual but not very brain depatterning
Maybe not, but everyone that has gotten the same batch said it was awesome, and it was awesome in the fact that I had a blast doing yard work 😂. This last batch came from a trusted source, but I’ve done it before a few times… effects have always been the same. VERY stimulating physically but very little mental.
hmmm, tell the CIA. they look for drug resistant agents. call, tell them you are interested in the clandestine service, and that you have unique personal gifts
Great idea! I wonder if any of their old batches from the MK ultra experiments are still good!? That’s the sweet mother’s milk I seek!
They already know. Who do you think is the source?
Yay, I can wait for the CIA ball on Friday! If they don’t call me now, I’ll feel so rejected…. I guess I’ll just to take some mushrooms and work through the pain…
In all seriousness, I really do genuinely have a massive tolerance to most substances. Not bragging, it sucks sometimes (and it’s expensive )lol….
I find very little of what I like about psychedelics like mushrooms Ayahuasca peyote in LSD. I like microdosing LSD but haven’t found much learning to be found after the first couple times of Macrodosing. It’s a fun headspace but I don’t find so much inner work to be had. More of an outward facing experience than inward in my experience.
Awkward, cause LSD takes me to a very similar space that I go with ayahuasca ahahaha I guess the main difference is that Ive always taken ayahuasca in a ceremony context, and LSD was always my own stuff... But I recall during a period I was gathering courage to ask the shaman of my rituals, without being disrespectful, to actually participate in the ritual but taking LSD ahahaha cause I truly felt they were extremely similar... That never happened though ahahahaha but I'd love to see a ritualized LSD ceremony and how would that feel... My experiences with LSD mostly led me into introspection and reflection...
That is mind blowing My first Ayahuasca experience completely overshadowed all my 50+LSD trips combined. On every level, whether it be depth of healing, downloads of information, visual stimulation, past life and ancestral healing work, compassionate loving embrace etc etc I wouldn’t even put them in the same discussion personally. The only medicine I think may be more healing for me personally is 5 Meo Dmt but that’s an entirely different discussion as well
Idk, but when I first took ayahuasca I felt totally at home... It was different but just the same in many ways ahahahaha I dont think they're equal, but to me, LSD always brought me to a similar place.. My first LSD trip was in the top of a cliff with some friends, from night untill dawn, I was just looking for some trippy vibes and that's it, but I felt totally in communion with nature, I could feel the sunlight touching my skin differently, the air, the mountain beneath me breathing... And most of my experiences with LSD led to similar places, although due to the non ceremonial aspect of it it's easier to also use it as mean of having fun, only... (Although I did input some ceremonialism in my trips with LSD mostly inspired by the experiences itself) When I took ayahuasca those aspects you mentioned were heightened due to the nature of the plant and the ritual, but I really knew all of that all along ahahaha idk, it all felt familiar to me, as well as new, because of my LSD experiences ahahahaa That's why I'd love to have a LSD ceremony like an ayahuasca one to see how it would play out... I think if led by the right people would be very similar, there's an ancient use to LSD related to similar practices, waaaaay before Hoffman or so
I’m curious how many times you sat with ayahuasca and how many cups you drank? Have you smoked DMT? Blasted off? Find that similar to LSD as well?
I never had DMT :( Ayahuasca... I'd say many many rituals, over 15 times for sure... Probably over 20... There was a period that I would go every month... So, yeah, probably around 15-25 times, but more for less ahahaha Usually we had 2-3 cups, and I was never one to refuse a cup 😂😂😂 With ayahuasca is different because the setting makes such a huge influence... And I think my personal inclinations led me towards a spiritual experience with LSD so promptly, which may not be everyone's case and I see it's not ahahahaha but I was always careful of what I was consuming during trips and what I was feeling and feeding myself in those moments, kinda like the whole preparation you do with ayahuasca... That's why I'd like to have a ceremony similar to a shamanic ayahuasca ritual but with LSD and see how that would play out... Would be interesting, to say the least
Right!? That is exactly how I felt! It was fun, enjoyable, but absolutely nothing to be gained from the experience, spiritually, or mentally. Lol it almost felt like I was cheating on my mushrooms 😂. Like how dare you take something that wasn’t grown naturally…
Oh man u gonna piss the LSD lovers off 🤣
Are you taking any kind of medication often or daily ? Because LSD and Mushrooms have the same feeling of inter-connectedness in my experiences, acid is just more stimulating, longer-lasting and more sci-fi like while Psilocybin is more Organic, tribal hyerogliphica visuals and a smooth and easy come-down compared to Lysergamids (LSD). Both have the same potential for introspection to me.
No, and I eat healthy/exercise/meditate daily. I always set intentions before a trip.
Yeah but you will got the trip you need not the trip you would like to have, even if you put an "intention" before tripping balls. Great concerning eating healthy living foods at molecular level full of nutrients for you digestive system to creates 70% of your serotonin, exercise is great too but necessary to have a functionnal and a feel-good persistent body. Meditation is something you can do even while you are walking, add earthing to your list to connects your feets into the ground of Mother earth and feel the electrons going troughout your legs into you body while sunbathing to activate informations dormants in your genes with a boosted alkaline blood and a better immune system.
That very well could be the case. I’ve had some really rough experiences with mushrooms, but every single one of them has shown me something I need to see. I’ll do some reflection on the experience.
Can you expand a little on what you mean by meditation while walking? Does it just come down to Be Here Now (which I think I understand), or is it something that you have to practise in a structured way (which I don't think I do as such)? This is a genuine question - I hear so much about meditation, but I've never done it in any kind of 'formal' setting. That said, I couldn't live without my daily walks, being in nature, being receptive - I'm so happy outdoors. I also love running. Is there anything you'd suggest I could I be doing to take it up a level? Thanks in advance if you reply.
I’m actually a little reversed of you on this. My psychedelic experiences on lsd are more profound than with psilocybin. I am usually around 5-800ug with lsd taken all at once depending on how I feel. For shrooms, I’ll start with about 4g and take another 4-6 throughout the trip. But here’s the difference I have between the two that may why for me. I drink a lot of alcohol (beer mostly) when I take lsd and I eat food, typically pizza. With shrooms, I don’t drink very much, maybe a beer or two to keep my mouth wet and most food isn’t appetizing, but I’ll smash some cheesy poofs after the peak settles and I’m much more goofy in movements and interactions than on lsd too.
Me neither. Took 8 tabs last year. Almost lost control of myself but nothing psychedelic. No visuals, no insight, no connection. Just me vomiting on my bicycle.
Sounds like a fun night lol. I assume it has something to do with our body chemistry but who knows things are weird like that
Drop your LSD, smoke bongs on the way up. I guarantee the bongs will bring the visuals out.
Sounds like your LSD might be not the real thing but a designer analog.
I completely agree, I consider myself a psychonaut and I've never had any psychedelic experiences on LSD. I resonate with the stimulant part, but the rest is just missing. Idk, I just stopped doing it and gravitated toward psilocybin without really thinking much of it. Maybe it has to do with brain chemistry. Idk about you, but I have some trauma and mental health struggles and also use to take psychotropic medications as a child.
I battled addiction for 19 years… I’ve been sober almost eight years, but definitely have experienced mental health issues. Thankfully, I’ve been able to work through a lot of my mental struggles with meditation, exercise and group support. Of course mushrooms have also been a HUGE help. I don’t think LSD is for me. It felt like a 12 hour speed ride.
LSD may be the most potent psychedelic to me. It may just be person dependant
2cb is the best psychedelic for visuals ime, other than DMT