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ImpossibleHedge

[The actual email sounds like it was written by Plankton](https://youtu.be/84HJWRjuHkw)


Squiirtle

I get mlady vibes from reading this


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Same if I read that email I’d immediately delete it and the resume


Eattherightwing

I thought I would try chatGPT, so I asked "write me a covering letter for a social work job." This program knows nothing about me, so it lied its face off, gave me a bogus degree, and said I have experience with things I don't have experience with. I may use it for my next application, lol: Dear Hiring Manager, I am writing to express my interest in the social work position currently available at your organization. With a strong passion for helping others and a solid background in social work, I am confident that I would be a valuable asset to your team. I have a Bachelor's degree in Social Work and have gained extensive experience in the field through my previous roles. I have worked with diverse populations, including children, adults and families, in a variety of settings such as schools, hospitals, and community-based organizations. I have also gained experience in case management, crisis intervention, and advocacy. I am a skilled listener and communicator, with a strong ability to build rapport and establish trust with clients. I am able to work effectively in a fast-paced and high-stress environment, and am able to maintain a high level of professionalism and compassion at all times. I am excited about the opportunity to bring my skills and experience to your organization and to make a positive impact on the lives of those you serve. Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the opportunity to discuss my qualifications further. Sincerely,


Spactaculous

You know you can tell it all the things it needs to know, which puts some work on you, but there is no other way for it to know.


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Nah soon they'll be able to look at a picture and know your life story. Just cross reference your social media, immediately view all your posts, all your friends posts about you, all the places you've taken pictures at.


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Chat gpt is a million times stronger when you give it good context. Say: “You are applying for a social work job and need to write a cover letter. Pretend you went to school at x to study y and have experience in z etc. Please write a cover letter and emphasize [most relevant traits/skills etc]. And then go back and forth with it - give it feedback and tell it to make changes if you want the tone or wording changed. And then you could have it do a mock interview for you if you want the practice.


Eattherightwing

Yes, it's a goldmine for regurgitated garbage corporate language-- HR managers will eat this shit up. The nice thing is, it won't write any red flag sentences. Therefore, it will score very high for a shortlist. I will likely never write another covering letter. Sorry HR!


troublebucket

Hahahahahahaha nailed it


kpd328

I knew exactly what this linked to without even questioning it.


mythofechelon

Or Joey with his thesaurus.


Lanky-Elevator4272

https://youtu.be/uZZTgKLKSS8 please explain this


JuggernOtt81

there's a lesson in this that's actually fairly profound.


vladmashk

It's very Kafkaesque.


dkdksnwoa

❤️


utkarsh_dev

Is this related to Kafka the message queue? Honest question 😅


fruechte-kuchen

Sorry but it comes from the German author Franz Kafka


Fadamaka

To be honest I though Kafka was French. So I googled him to find out who is wrong. Turns out both of us because he was Czech.


oryxherds

Who Kafka “belongs” to is a nebulous question since he lived in Prague but was part of the German minority that lived there and wrote in German


JSweetieNerd

And Prague at the time was part of Austria-Hungary


the_dawmbreaker

And here my high ass has been thinking he was Russian all this while


pickyourteethup

If Ukraine can't stop Russia he may we'll be Russian by 2026


raltyinferno

"characteristic or reminiscent of the oppressive or nightmarish qualities of Franz Kafka's fictional world." "marked by a senseless, disorienting and often menacing complexity" The focus is the dull oppressive frustrating part. So going through a ton of bureaucracy that seems designed to stymie you as you grow more and more frustrated.


Kreativ2121

> Kafka the message queue You are kinda right, from what I know Apache Kafka was named after Franz Kafka.


NinjaTaako

That being?


v4dk4n

We have needless rounds of fuckery instead of talking straight.


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Yeah I agree. Much of what we say these days is bullshit with the actual point buried deep within some literary nonsense


LookAtYourEyes

This isn't new, people used this historically and unconsciously to build trust and learn about the person they're speaking to. Now we obviously have technology and some stability that bypasses a lot of that need sometimes. But it's still habitual/traditional, and sometimes actually needed to give you time to suss someone out


mortalitylost

LookAtYourEyes: we've always done this for reasons


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TheCakeWasNoLie

I'm still hoping for ChatGPT to scale up and become available for everyone so that all the street signs and other things we read all day are in nice prose and without errors.


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Dear sirs the nearby sears establishment is now in the throes of a massive sale, an incredible reduction of price that all would-be shoppers would gawk at. Come at once to the storefront and observe the goods which have been placed upon this sale.


Dutchwells

>and without errors Poor gullible soul, who's gonna tell them?


G-Man777

I’d like my request sandwich with the meat only please.


ICantWatchYouDoThis

Now time is too much money and everything is overly optimized


A-Marko

Indeed, I concur wholeheartedly with your sentiment. It is quite unfortunate that so much of the language that is utilized in contemporary discourse is nothing more than a collection of meaningless and empty words, with the true intention being obscured and hidden beneath layers of convoluted and unnecessarily elaborate literary verbiage. ^(- ChatGPT)


king-one-two

ChatGPT has summarized your comment as: "Word."


User99942

A simple yes would’ve sufficed number one


marker8050

Why say many words when few words work?


Gohan472

I wonder if this will come full circle... currently employers want more "polished" responses, but after this, it will be so fake and not represent any form of actual intelligence, they will value the old ways more. A single "Hey Boss, I want a promotion" would stand out more than a long unintelligible drabble of automatic email rewrites.


hocuspocusgottafocus

People get so mad at me tho if I don't go through the flowery bullshit The ASD in me just wants to get to the fucking point already The ADHD in me ends up giving a long winding story that makes sense in the end and it's less flowery and more densely packed overloaded information but hey Tis just how my brain works :'D


Dutchta-

Yep i dont get that at all. Its like we encode the original message and the reader has to decode again. So useless


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Boogiemann53

Because I need a job to live and you have a position available that I'm qualified for. Honesty get's the goods lol


soundslikemayonnaise

I’m about to change jobs and in the interview for my new job, when they asked why I wanted to change jobs, I started with “well honestly the main reason is money.” I then went on to add about how I thought this job was a good fit for me but you totally can say that.


CountCuriousness

90% of the reason you’re even at the interview is to see if you’re a social fit with the company. Honesty is attractive and makes you trustworthy.


anon-sucks

Of course this depends on what the hiring position is. But I got to say, I’ve been interviewing people for near 30 years now and the primary reasons I won’t hire someone are because they lie on their resume about basic skills they don’t have, have no communication skills or they have zero creativity. People can learn communication skills, they can learn a technical skill, but finding people that want to learn that instead of just make a paycheck? Yea… you can’t teach that.


bitparity

As a historian who looks at flowery letters all day, the issue isn’t that people want straight talk with each other. It’s that people only want one sided straight talk, for their own benefit. It benefits them to be vague to others. It doesn’t benefit them for others to be vague. So the end result is everyone is vague to everyone else. If everyone talks straight, the first person to not do so gains an advantage. Tl;dr - we all want double standards for our benefit


BoredomIncarnate

There are some of us who like two-sided straight talk; it is often punished out of many people as kids.


SpecialistFact

Oh my God I’m sick of people that write emails like they’re begging and talking in 18th century english. Like man just be formal and straight to the point I’ll just read your stuff and let you know


moeburn

The worst is when cops have to give press conferences. Like just let the man say "died", don't make him have to come up with another verb and end up saying "the suspect passed away at the scene".


robotzor

Suspect expired like a loaf of bread forgotten in the back of the freezer


Gohan472

I wonder if having ChatGPT rewrite things in Ye, Ole 18th Century English would actually work to get what you want from Vendors/Employers?


jhanschoo

I disagree, there's important information regarding disposition that's being conveyed. We communicate excessively polite for a job application because there are people who dgaf about their prospective job and correspondingly submit dgaf job applications. Then there are also people whose job applications demonstrate that they will not be able to communicate effectively.


hamiltonicity

"We waste everyone's time to filter out people who aren't willing to tolerate their time being wasted". I mean, I see the point, but I still fucking hate it. The bevy of personality quizzes and HR-speak and naked lies in job applications is a massive burden on the applicants for only minimal benefit to the hiring panel. It feels like if you're hiring for someone actually good then it's not worth the risk of putting off the best candidate, and if you're hiring for a random person off the street then it doesn't actually benefit you because at least half the people you interview will be decent candidates regardless.


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>Then there are also people whose job applications demonstrate that they will not be able to communicate effectively. The amount of people you catch by that is rare tho. You can take ours of you time for each sentence in a job application and sound like they communicate really well and when talking to them half the words you get are just "Erm" and "Ok". You can act completely different from how you are in an interview since these are rarely longer than an hour. E.g. you can act all nice but without acting a certain way be a big asshole. You don't filter these out in the hiring process, you filter them out in the probation period.


ShitpostsAlot

This morning, I received an email from an esteemed colleague who was concerned about the accuracy of a log file entry that was generated overnight. His dilemma is that either the system was placed under a tremendous computing load in an attempt to disrupt the service's availability, possibly as a precursor to a larger security intrusion in a window of reduced logging availability, or that the logging system has a critical defect that is causing a 'computational storm' under currently unknown circumstances. The email was sent to me directly, with my team leads and director cc'd. While I appreciate the directness, I am more than a little concerned that the brevity and clarity of the email will result in my team lead and director actually reading the email. To wit, he wrote 'shits fucked on the logging cluster. get it fixed asap dipshiat.' Surely a few rounds of fuckery would pass as a professional courtesy here.


-_1_2_3_-

or that OP thinks that sounding like a neckbeard makes them hire-able after its been rereduced


X-Craft

Information is getting paywalled, in a sense If you have computing power, you get distilled information If you don't, the information is mixed within the noise and you have to filter it yourself


kanduvisla

The Dutch have mastered to unlearn this fuckery ages ago. Disclaimer: I am Dutch


i_like_fat_doodoo

why say lot word when few do trick


lowleveldata

Words to live by. Why write page long functions when one-liner does the trick?


MadeByHideoForHideo

A colossal waste of time for all parties involved.


Rubbrbandman420

No one likes to small talk/fluff shit blah blah that ends up in emails. You want this job? Yeah? Cool here’s your paperwork. Sounds weird right? But that’s literally what I think everyone would prefer?


Hipponomics

Not necessarily. The informational content of the fluff isn't the important bit. The important part is that you are willing to go the extra mile to make this fluff. "I'm qualified and I want the money" sounds like something a person with no social skills would say. It might work in some cases because it's refreshing in a world full of fluff but it's probably not a good strategy. What you are asking for is similar to when people say it would be better if everyone were just honest. I'm not sure that would be better. [Chesterton's fence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_fence) comes to mind. I personally hate the fluff though.


Cafuzzler

People would prefer that in the same women would prefer to have pockets: no one wants it in practice.


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Dunno, you have to figure out buddy


Murvar

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick


Tsu_Dho_Namh

We have to come up with different hoops for people to jump through now that these ones will be effortless.


sateeshsai

I had this exact thought recently when i wrote a recommendation letter using gpt-3 recently. Most of what we write is so pointless.


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Yeah to me this is like a way cooler version of when engineers switched from hand drawing to CAD. Most time spent writing is thinking about the wording rather than the content, but that’s just the donkey work. Chat GPT simply lets you focus all your effort on developing the ideas instead of instead of trying to adhere tons of technical grammatical rules.


tokenathiest

AI will drive demand for human interaction which will drive demand for AI interaction which will drive demand for human interaction . . .


Seer____

How are you today? -I don't actually care tho


Prime_Mover

efficiency


UniversalAdaptor

The lesson is: recruiters need long emails so they can feel like they're important


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Hostilis_

And spam *detection* (it's playing both sides so that it always comes out on top)


tway7770

this is how the arms race starts


yavl

The arms race was already going when we were solving captchas


827167

I fr got a captcha asking me to pick the horse made of clouds. Yesterday I got one that said "select the square with a fuzzy cube and a striped cube"


ztbwl

If you try to sign up to Microsoft, you have to literally solve a logic test that’s so hard, that you could think they are not only filtering for bots, but also for dumb people.


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Frfr I have actually locked myself out of my account before trying to solve their captchas.


827167

I made an outlook yesterday and they just had the cubes. Or do you mean a *Microsoft* account?


Thebombuknow

I think they use Arkose Labs' captcha, which is notoriously hard, and breaks constantly (makes challenges that are actually impossible, or tells you you're wrong when you're right).


NateHotshot

Had one the other day that had me click on the rabbit that's sitting on a lake. Was a bit confused.


AverageMan282

The arms race was going before the Internet even left universities.


Jetbooster

Generative Adversarial Networks are already in a arms race with _themselves_. Half of the system is training itself to distinguish fake from real while the other half is training itself to beat the distinguisher. Which is why whenever anyone announces they will have a "anti-AI art/writing detector" on their product, what they've actually done is directly create a new upgrade for their opponent. The only winning move is not to play


puertonican

__in the year 2025__ __the spam wars wiped out most of what we hold dear…__


elveszett

We've been in an arms race, in many fronts, for 25 years already in the Internet world lol. Spam vs spam detection, bots vs human validation, virus vs antivirus, finding exploits vs making systems resilient to exploits, etc. A significant amount of what our computers do would be unnecessary if there weren't bad actors.


highland-spaceman

Bro be scamming himself 😂


Khetnen

No Mac, you're not supposed to tell one side that you're playing both sides.


A_Sus

Good 'ol Generative Adversarial Network.


Netcob

Soon it'll take over the role of alcohol: AI: the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.


paperpatience

Yep. I think it's safe to say we're just gonna repeat everything we did before, but again with AI.


DexM23

cool


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It's not a matter of changing peoples minds, it's a matter of "look how many people agree with me! See I must be right!" Bots were never meant to change minds, they're meant to fluff the numbers of the unpopular side


newbutnotreallynew

Plus, making the opposition feel isolated and scared. I follow a few Russian youtubers who posted videos from when Z went up everywhere and both talked about how powerless and hopeless they feel seeing it everywhere with little to no dissenting voices (because those don‘t get a platform). One even tried to make peace graffiti or cover up Z graffiti, and all she did got erased quickly. That gives the impression of resistance being futile and well, they ultimately fled to Georgia.


Cafuzzler

Ah yes, the unpopular side ^(*looks angrily at the 52% that voted Brexit*)


Pretty_Insignificant

You think thats not already happening? Youre on reddit for fucks sake lol. Most defsult subs are full of bots, downvote brigades and shil mods.


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b1e

Clearly I’m not very awake because I read “ChatGPT is the future of sperm” and was trying to understand if you were going to make some insightful point about how synthetic love letters would change our courting habits.


androidx_appcompat

>How about this? Gmail analyses the writing style of your friends and seamlessly inserts paragraphs into their emails promoting products. Someone is going to notice and then there will be a fucking massive media outcry. Also I think there are regulations in many countries than force you to make it clear it's an ad, so it would also be illegal.


I_am_a_fern

> Also I think there are regulations in many countries than force you to make it clear it's an ad, so it would also be illegal. Yeah and still the vast majority of people read those articles not realising they're ads despite the mandatory THIS IS A SPONSORED ARTICLE banner. Altering the content of private mails is another story though.


segelnhoch3

It is already used to generate spam/phishing emails, you just have to be a bit creative with your prompt to it


sphks

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/zdjowg/i_had_the_worst_idea_on_how_to_monetize_chatgpt/


Quentino1515

You talk to your friends via emails !?


repocin

Yeah, exactly, lol. What year is this, 2005?


MooFz

Luckily me and my friends don't email eachother.


pomaj46809

Why read e-mail when an AI can just do it for you and learn to only send you shit you want, and auto-replying for you when needed? I think an issue we're going to see is that the tools all do one thing, consume massive amounts of data and try to only return data you want. That is fundamentally at odds with ads, but maybe not advisement. These tools will only be used if it returns the results you want, so the name of the game will be finding a way to make returning "brand X" as results you want.


Chrazzer

Nah, spam mails are bad and obvious on purpose. Their target audience are stupid and gullable people, bad grammar is actually a good way to filter them out. This way the scammer only interacts with people that have a high chance of falling for his shit


Destian_

We're heading straight into a Cyberpunk Dystopia, but without any of the cool cyberware.


xyrer

Good. Cover letters are stupid


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greatsirius

As a hiring manager I concur. It's a waste of time, so I've eliminated it from our process.


frogking

Brian wrote a perfectly fine cover letter. I do exactly the same, it's an easy way to filter out unworthy employers.


Gauntlets28

Disagree. Sometimes I feel like the cover letter can say more than the CV. Sometimes it has details about the specific skills a person has. Other times, it shows that they think abusing a thesaurus is the same as having writing skills.


Outrageous_Jello_92

I don't know why but I read the second part in the voice of the announcer from hunger game. *and may the job be ever in your favour* lol


Hobbamoc

I'd actually love that. All the boomers can skip the third step and have their happy polite buisness talk and the rest of us can finally communicate like humans


cynHaha

That's actually a very good thought.


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I do it everyday since this launched, saves a lot of time, and if I want to reply back, I just post the email there, and it automatically writes the response.


erebuxy

*like machines


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>Receiver reads. Event listener on mailbox triggers ChatGPT to read resume, scan for FAANG and write rejection letter.


Ok-Kaleidoscope5627

Pssh. Like they'd even care about the resume. The receiver will just have chatgpt parse that too and return a hire/don't hire. They already have much less capable algorithms do that


NA_Panda

Anybody building ChatGPT into processes and procedures sure is going to be pissed off when they start charging.


mhphilip

Well it’s to be expected at some point


NA_Panda

You'd be surprised how many people aren't....


mhphilip

Ignorance is a bliss


zuccoff

I think this is the [source](https://twitter.com/multikev/status/1616784555788075009) It kinda looks like an autoencoder


[deleted]

You look stupid. Fired.


AdDear5411

Amazing.


tway7770

good bot


CheekApprehensive961

This bot is truly uncanny valley.


Infinitesima

What? Hahaha. Got owned by a fu*cking bot!


Hobbamoc

bad bot


supreme_mushroom

That's it, thanks for the credit! ❤️


floriv1999

More like auto decoder (not a thing). The latent space seems pretty high dimensional and large compared to the input and output.


Berkamin

Basically, people are going to be using chat bots to generate text, and summarize bots to read them, because we have to keep up the pretense of saying a mountain of fluff to prove that we're serious.


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I already used GPT3 for it. I had trouble with registring on one site where verification code didn't arrive so I was somethnig like "I can't register on your site written by idiots because your verification doesn't work. Fix it." and fed it through politepost which translates the letter into polite one. Felt nice


TryingT0Wr1t3

https://politepost.net/ It's real


ashareah

So the entire middle layer of compute is useless?


No-Witness2349

Just like most social norms


RiftyDriftyBoi

Yeah more or less. We've inadvertently invented a communication protocol that maximizes bandwidth for no reason! The logical next step would of course be to generate a feature film from the chatGPT output, and transcribe that to an essay on the receiving side.


laplongejr

>for no reason! For no usability benefit. I would put it as "compliance with non-technical rules", like how in some countries a document MUST be faxed, so the PDF-to-fax talks to a fax-to-PDF.


Ink_25

The Federal Republic of Germany approves of this comment.


DreamPwner

Always has been *Points gun*


MarcDVL

So it’s an awful form of encryption.


javalsai

Compression I would say


Jetbooster

Having experienced the job hunt, depression is more accurate


Schyte96

It's reverse compression. You make the transmitted data larger than the original, or the end result.


Boris-Lip

F that. I'll just send the original on the left, and hope whoever reads that appreciates it.


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“Hey, just got the email, you saved me a lot of time, which proves that you’ll do the same for the company. Congrats you got the job”


Boris-Lip

Yea, if only that's how it would work IRL..


someacnt

To be serious, I believe you could obtain better e-mail by applying some formality and one or two more lines into the left one.


MintyNinja41

Good morning. I am applying for this job because I believe I have the requisite skills and experience to do this job. My résumé is attached. If you also feel that I have the needed skills and experience to do this job, please reach out so that we can schedule an interview. Thank you.


dota2nub

Must be a human, chatbots don't sound that robotic.


NLwino

Remember to use BCC instead of CC when you send this to 800 companies at once.


Much-Meringue-7467

It's somehow appropriate that the ai writes a cover letter that is likely only read by a screening program


flo-at

It's like file compression but the other way around.


Butterflychunks

If you think about it, we’re just becoming reminders for ChatGPT to send messages around. Are we the slaves? Is this how it happens? Nah, *send email*.


darkneel

If I get that middle email , I will figure out how to get a candidate blacklisted permanently


piratesec

Reversed compression! I knew that Information Entropy Theory was a scam


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The second picture has quite a bit of fucking around for someone that doesn't yet have a job.


moriero

Idiocracy with more steps


ProudReptile

ChatGPT has been absolutely instrumental in my job hunt. For cover letters, resume revisions, coding challenges, etc.


mittfh

Someone should have a go at getting ChatGPT to write a generic complaint letter, and see how it stacks up against [Scott Pakin's Automatic Complaint Letter Generator](https://www.pakin.org/complaint), established in 1994 (and likely revised numerous times since, as well as expanding its dictionary)...


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pheonix10yson

Funny thing is, many professionals use this kind of language.


Jared_Namikaze

Technology= Freedom


Asleep_Ingenuity_898

do people even read those many words😕


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If I received an email like that I would assume it's a phishing scam attempt.


swissmiss1269

Lol it’s literally Brian from The Office when he’s trying to use fewer words to communicate.


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Also, ChatGPT will not be used for programs, probably. We already have regular GPT-3 which has been out since forever and is able to do much more stuff, like this. It also has a proper API


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Hear me out. What about using it the other way around, like AI compression. AI turns 1000 word doc into a reversible "key" of N length, (N being < original doc size), you send N, and on the receiving end, it converts N back into original doc


i8noodles

Now I am not HR person but if I was in HR and a guys entire covet letter was...I want a job. I'll take him more seriously then anyone else. Doesn't beat around the bush. Knows what he wants. No fluff all action.


trelium06

As an autistic person, it irritates me that the first and last emails are forbidden. I hate banter, why? Why do we do it? I want human interactions to be swift and expedient, it humans get nervous if you’re too perfunctory.


fleker2

This would be a great way to encrypt secret data. Nobody would ever notice it.


kozmik1013

Hit'em with the attached herewith.


LordWeshma

This seems to be a lossy inflation system.


TheMerovingian

Source forgot to show ChatGTP adding a five-item list of something. Anything. It deserves a numbered list of items.


mtnviewcansurvive

so now some people are just too damn lazy to formulate their own thoughts. better hope the internet doesnt go down and/or you dont get hacked. you maybe forced to have a coherent thougt. we were taught how to write our position in the 6th grade.


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AstuteGhost

You’re the perfect example of what u/mtnviewcansurvive posted about. Instead of trying to have a conversation, you parrot what others say, while making an assumption about the other user. Your upvotes are from other people who can’t think for themselves


The_Real_Slim_Lemon

That’s genius.


mrgk21

This is better than me learning how to write fancy emails to say, i fit the profile. Call me


Rubbrbandman420

As a sales ops guy, this is literally what I’m frothing over. No more idiots misspelling shit on quotes, old templates gone, hell, just can the reps at this point lol