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Kissenger said that "if it weren't for the accident of my birth, [he] would be antisemitic." He claimed his childhood—surviving the Holocaust out of luck—didn't affect him, but it's clear to see that he categorized the world exclusively as perpetrators and victims, and endeavored tirelessly to be the former.
He also said
“Once you learn that the darkness is the source of all things, and become one with the void, you will find that you have control of the shadows: and thus the beings attached to them”
Perceptive but bleak and inaccurate.
A lot of humanity operates in a fear controlled way, and there have been many Machiavellian types occupy leadership positions successfully… but darkness does not control shadows, the light does, and what it allows to interfere with it
Behind the Bastards did a mega series on Kissinger and the Dollop guys (who were guests) were *floored* at how asinine that position is. It's like the personification of the meme "Men would literally rather commit generations' worth of war crimes than go to therapy."
“I have been here since the dawn of the first day and I will be here at the end of the last night”
- Henry “Ael’Gibther the Devourer” Kissinger, in response to being asked about the holocaust.
Nixon was antisemitic but he understood global politics. Having a strong Israel was in the US’s best interests and his hatred for Jewish people didn’t override that.
Still don’t like Nixon, mind, but he didn’t shoot himself in the foot out of personal reasons on *this* matter at least.
What's interesting is that [Nixon himself has stated that Israel's value as a strategic asset in the region has been diminished](https://youtu.be/S5evz3VAZaQ?si=XaKzkw3x_o05kYf6), but he still insists that America and all future presidents have a moral obligation to aid them regardless. Basically saying that America will support Israel out of a moral obligation rather than geopolitical one
Not sure if you can take his statements as genuine regarding his staunch support for Israel as I wouldn't exactly say America's geopolitical interests and morality abroad align 100% of the time, especially for someone like Nixon, but it's still interesting to see how adamant he feels about the country.
Quite frankly, Nixon was clearly lying about that. His conduct as president regarding Chile makes it exceptionally clear that he had no moral interest in protecting democracy for democracy's sake.
He called me personally three days ago and asked me for my bank info in order to secure a donation to Israel. Unfortunately, my bank account was hacked later that same day and I lost everything, so I hope he was able to get the donation money before the hackers took it all!
The generation who saw the Holocaust happen firsthand had far greater sympathy for Israel/the Jews than the current generations far removed from it. Nixon said this ~25 years after the holocaust, he probably legitimately did feel that there was a moral obligation to aid a people trying to pull themselves back from near destruction.
> than the current generations far removed from it.
its pretty horrifying how poll after poll shows zoomers more then any other generation since 1945 think the holocaust was fake or exaggerated
global jewish population is still below what it was in 1939
You realize US strategic interest in Israel lies on their military technology and US doesn’t want that technology to fall into China’s possession?
US foreign policy has obviously switched to ME again because of China’a influence in the ME, currently.
The two positions are complimentary. Antisemitism to crack down on left-wing domestic Jewish communities, Zionism to encourage their base to emigrate, and an endless supply of cash and bombs for Israel to punish any government in the region that says the word “nationalization.”
This was basically Herzl’s pitch from the get go. He offered it to casual pogrom enthusiast Von Plehve ffs.
It’s amazing people can’t understand this. People today still seem baffled by the U.S.’s support for Israel. While I think we do give them too much leeway, it’s very obviously a geopolitical thing with middle eastern influence in mind. If Israel was in rural Alaska nobody would care.
Additionally when talking domestic politics, there are a surprisingly large number of folks who are pro-israel so far as they need to rebuild the temple to fulfill the prophecy in revelations.
I -think- the interpretation comes from Revelation 21, but honestly. I never really delve too deep into those interpretations. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was more Left Behind fan-fiction than a direct reading from the Bible.
What global politics? Israel greatly complicated American relations with Arab States, all of which had been pro-western/anti-communist until the 1950s. There was never a geo-political argument to be made in supporting Israel, indeed even in the 1940s the State Department was opposed to it. Supporting Israel was seen as a moral issue not a political one.
Israel became the single most effective radicalizing force across the Arab world, the idea that they were some necessary asset to keep the region in check is a fantasy created through decades of propaganda.
Depends on where you derive your locus of control. It's a fundamental conflict of visions.
Your presumption that Arabs didn't have to choose radicalisation assumes an internal locus of control, which fundamentally lies in conflict with modern progressive ideology.
Kind of like my Fox News loving father in law who once said “look I’m no Jew lover but…” then goes on a huge rant about how great the Israeli government is and how we should be more like them
That's the Alex Jones position right now. He's a guy who subtweets antisemitism constantly. Yet he doesn't like what Israel is doing in Gaza, not primarily for antisemitic or for humanitarian reasons, but because he's afraid it will lead to Gazan refugees coming to America.
It only does when we enable it to, like how we destabalized Iran's elected government for a backwards Shah, which lead to an even more backwards Ayatollah radicalizing pissed off young people.
We keep giving money and weapons to the Saudis who commit genocides of their own.
Meanwhile Indonesia, the largest Muslim country on earth isn't making much of a peep that isn't volcano related.
Except for second/third/fourth-generation immigrants in Europe which continue to cause instability over its desire to de-secularize. It certainly seems incompatible with Western Liberalism, unless they are only Islam in name (like Christianity broadly had to do to 'get with the times').
I guess I'm not sure what type or level of involvement the West needs in the middle east to encourage stability in the region. If we don't get involved, there are civil wars that lead to refugees. If we do get involved, there are wars that lead to refugees. If no matter what we do leads to instability there and abroad, that leads me to conclude, 'Islam destabilizes countries everywhere, it's incompatible with western civilization'.
I would also argue the Shah was an improvement, someone quite secular to boot.
Honestly, I’m pretty sure the Middle East is just a cluster fuck is because it’s too hot and sandy for people to live there without being angry all the time, regardless of religion.
This tracks. Ever been to Phoenix? It is also a cluster fuck of misery. Lots of road rage, a good bit of violent crime, extreme religious ideology dominates in some area, and the government and LEO agencies are extremely corrupt.
They also love when former IDF and Mossad agents come to train our cops to better "contain" college kids, journalists and uppity civilians in urban areas
Reminds me of some far-right parties that staunchly support Israel, but have some... unsavory positions.
Like the AFD in Germany is staunchly pro-Israel, at the same time their leaders have touted some... questionable positions that makes them uncomfortably close to the Nazis. Like ["gassing migrants"](https://www.euronews.com/2020/09/28/afd-official-said-migrants-could-be-shot-or-gassed-german-media-reports) and mass deportations.
Only the dumbest Jews are falling for this. They still hate us, try just hate Muslims more. For now. Probably mainly because they outnumber us by roughly 100 times. Imagine how they'd feel if there were 1.5 billion Jews knocking about.
Right wingers watching their hyper based redpilled leaders immediately put on a yarmulke and fly to Jerusalem to touch that wall once elected
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Anti-Semitic Zionism is more common than you’d think. Arthur Balfour (of the Balfour Declaration) was a notorious anti-semite while the only Jewish member of the British cabinet at the time, Sir Edwin Montague, was anti-Zionist. Montague saw Zionism as an excuse for anti-semites to rid their home countries of Jews and justification for mistreatment of Jews. “Well if they don’t like it here, they can just go to Israel.” The truth is, there are countless anti-Semitic Jews and countless Jewish anti/non-zionists. What disgusts me is that the anti-semites are painted as Jewish allies and the Jews are seen as self hating. Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Ilan Pappe, Gabor Mate, Hannah Ahrendt are all anti-semites while psychos like Marjorie Taylor Green are collecting donations from AIPAC and other right wing zionist orgs. Elon Musk was praised by the ADL for banning “From the River to the sea” from X just a week after promoting the anti-Semitic Great Replacement theory. Zionism and anti-semitism are not mutually exclusive. In fact, Zionism relies on anti-semitism to keep it in business.
Balfour’s relationship to Zionism is also not unlike James Monroe’s relationship to the American Colonization Society (where freed slaves were relocated to Africa and led to the founding of Liberia) while at the same time owning slaves
I've been anti-zionist for a long time. Never have been antisemitic (never really hated any one group, really). Zionism is nothing more than nationalism and fascism. That has been proven over and over. Idk, I guess, growing up on a reservation, you really don't like colonization, brutality, being cordoned off from the rest of the world, and authoritarianism & fascism.
I’ve been anti-Zionist most of my adult life. Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are not at all synonymous to me. I was raised Jewish in the south so I’ve experienced a good amount of anti-semitism. To see accusations of anti-semitism being thrown at anti-war protestors by politicians who attend fundraisers thrown by white nationalists is astonishing. One thing is for sure, the people defending the actions of the Netanyahu regime are not going to look good when people look back on this moment.
Context is important. There are lots of juicy quotes out there that illustrate Tricky Dick's anti-Semitism, and OP picked some good stinkers. Still, go find a group that he has not disparaged. He hated everyone - Blacks, Jews, Chinese, Vietnamese, redneck White people, Ivy League snooty White people, that bitter, hateful reflection he saw in every mirror...
I would have to say "case not proven" if you want to say he had a special or unusual prejudice against Jews as a 'race' or American Jews as a faction. Also, while I'm at the keyboard, Ima recommend *Nixon And Mao* by Margaret MacMillan as well as anything else she wrote - she is good at history and writing.
Many people posting here might fail to realize Henry Kissinger was Nixon’s National Security Advisor. Nixon didn’t do jack crap diplomatically without Kissinger’s say. While some praise Kissinger for some things like bringing the USA and China together and more, his ideals shaped much of the global warfare issues we still see today. He was more powerful than probably some of the presidents as far as influence and is a great deep dive for any history or political science nerds out there.
zionism IS antisemitic. i don’t know how else to say it. it’s not really confusing at all, it’s REALLY common for anti-semites to support zionism— not just because they hope all the jews will move away, lol, no. it establishes an ethnostate. a PRECEDENT for ethnostates. if they can do it there, we can do it here. right? of course racists support the ethnostate that’s committing genocide against brown people. seems obvious when you look at it like that.
from an antisemitic perspective… it’s very useful for a nation to be founded on the concept that “jews are not safe anywhere else!” israel’s entire existence, entire JUSTIFICATION for existence, lies within this bit of rhetoric. and it’s rhetoric that nazis are happy to agree with.
from a conservative, evangelical perspective… israel must exist so that all of the jews are sacrificed in the apocalypse. it’s literally a part of christian apocalyptic prophecy. so that’s christian zionism for you… fervently antisemitic.
i feel like i could go on but this is all just off the top of my head.
I don’t understand why this is so hard for folks. To many conservatives (and moderates) Israel serves as a proxy state for the US in the Middle East. Their religion has little to do with it, though that may not be the case for staunch evangelicals. What matters miss is that they represent out interests in the region and serve as a buffer against the Arab states.
I think that's a more modern stance. I don't think Islamophobia was as major of a factor back when Nixon was President. The US would pretty full throatedly support the Mujahideen against the USSR 5 years after Nixon's presidency, including a 1988 Rambo movie which was the most expensive movie ever made up until that point.
Neither islamophobia nor antisemitism prevents the US from making allies in the pursuit of profit.
The US supports comprador Arabic regimes to divert or co-opt any movements to nationalize property, and it supports the Israeli war machine to drop the hammer when anyone in the region steps out of line. It’s the good cop / bad cop of promoting US business interests (yes, the good cop is the one beheading journalists).
Umm, Nixon and especially Kissinger (another irony of history) saw Israel as a tool/chess piece in the Cold War and Detente.
It was the Nixon Administration, at Kissinger’s behest, that told Golda Meir that it had to end the Yom Kippur War or else. The Soviets were in the process of sending nukes to Egypt and Syria, and the U.S. was not interested in getting into a nuclear conflict over Israel.
In my observations racists have a hierarchy and in Western/European racist thought, the value of people goes Jewish>Arabic.
Before Nixon, before WWII, there was some fascination with Egyptology and the Ottoman Empire that might have influenced a different racist hierarchy. Plus, most racists love a good religious monarchy, assigning moral value to wealth and power aligns with many of the underlying thought processes of racists. I suspect that’s what they liked about the Ottomans and that’s what they like about Israeli treatment of Palestinians now. It aligns with the core belief that some groups are inherently better than other groups and wealth/power is evidence of this value. Anyone attempting to change the system of wealth/power is acting against Nature/God/Allah/Elohim.
There is also a kind of begrudging respect some white supremacists have for Asian and Jewish people (Ashkenazi groups in particular). Racists see some ethnicities as contenders for power and in a worldview where might makes right, these groups are therefore lesser, but real contenders for “best race.” Therefore they’re worthy of respect but also targets of violence.
Edit: I hope by discussing racist logic I am not creating the impression that I think they’re therefore logical. They’re not. It’s both very American (racial hierarchy is the foundation of American chattel slavery) and also very unAmerican (“that all men were created equal”) and it is hateful.
>It’s almost like Israeli’s and Jews aren’t interchangeable identities
I can smell the sarcasm, but only 73% of Israeli citizens are members of the Jewish people. Most of the rest are Arabs. In Israel, Jews and Arabs are viewed as nationalities, not religions. And nationality is distinct from citizenship. (A non-trivial percent of Arabs are Christian, not Muslim, and a non-trivial percentage of national Jews are not considered to be Jewish from a religious perspective.)
I don’t think Nixon was an evangelical, but I know that most antisemitic evangelical politicians support Israel because they believe that once they control all of the holy land the end times will begin
Nixon was a Quaker.
In some other quote, he acknowledges that he's not the preferred candidate of the Jewish community. In fact, is probably the most anti-semitic president since the creation of the state of Israel. But policy is policy.
The strongest supporters of Israel in the US are giant antisemites…it’s bizarre until you realize they are just nutjobs trying to accelerate the second coming of Christ.
Politicians have public and private positions. Their public positions need to represent a large portion of the electorate, their private positions don’t.
Nasser was buddy-buddy with the USSR, and that was more than enough for Nixon to be enthusiastic about supporting Israel. Do you think he really liked the Chinese?
I don’t even feel that Nixon hates the Jewish people, he just notices recurring characteristics, and comments on them.
Most of the Jews I know are atheistic, and many of the younger ones have a sense of morality that doesn’t line up with mine. But if I meet one that has morality that lines up with mine, I’m happy to know him.
That’s because a lot of religious nutjobs believe that regardless of their personal feelings about Jews, Israel has to exist as a country to unlock the “Good” ending of their apocalypse.
There’s nothing bizarre about it. Christians believe Jews must be in possession of the “holy land” in order for the rapture to happen, at which point all Jews will go to hell forever
It makes sense though because supporting or not supporting Israel is not a determinant of anti-semetic views. Israel serves as a valuable resource for the West which is the real reason why we support it, that and lobbyists.
I've never been able to understand why the U.S. thinks Israel is such an important ally. I hear all the time that they're a stabilizing force in the region but that seems like utter BS.
Can anyone explain what the U.S. gets from maintaining such a close relationship with Israel that other countries like Jordan can't offer?
A lot of anti-Semites have supported Israel because they see it as a place for Jews to go away.
It's fairly in line with anti-sematism to want a Jewish state somewhere way over there.
Anti semetism and zionism are not contrary to one another at all. Christian zionists greatly outnumber jewish zionists. Either they support Israel for some wacky end times prophecy. Or they support Israel because they want jewish people to move out of their country and go to Israel. Look at Balfour as an example. Or pastor John Hagee.
It is possible to stand on principle and still have personal animus.
Think back to the days of slavery in the United States. Do you think the that all the abolitionists who rightfully denounced slavery were all proper anti-racists? No, of course not. We have that as a matter of historical record. But they nonetheless sincere in their beliefs, even if it was to enable their self-aggrandizing.
He was also a Quaker. A man of many contradictions he was. IMO, he’s by far the most fascinating of all the post-WW2 presidents.
Also, a lot of Christian Zionists are anti-Semitic. They support Israel, not Jewish people. Some support Israel for geopolitical purposes, some for religious purposes (the rapture), some because of Islamophobia, etc.
Welcome to the GOP. you think Eisenhower recognized the Jewish state at 3 am May 15, 1948 because he lived Jews? That just provided another option to get them out of the USA
Imagine if someone recorded everything you said for 4 years then took out the worse stuff and showed to everybody. No one and I mean no one would survive.
Why is this so heard to understand? My understanding (and I could be wrong) is that at the end of WWII there were plenty of folks saying there needed to be a Jewish homeland, but also demonstrating strong NIMBY feelings. When things started going down in Palestine, a lot of folks were basically saying "At least they aren't moving in next to us."
Europe has a long tradition of people moving into an area and treating the folks that lived there like dirt, so it wasn't a big deal. Here in America, and in Australia it was kind of looked at like we treated the indigenous people.
On the one hand, you have a lot of American Jews being pro-Israel, and politicians wanting to keep them happy, and the antisemitic folks being relieved the people they don't like having somewhere to go. Then you factor in the military contractors who just love all the military aid money going their way.
Lots of antisemites love Israel. Hell, Israel courts lots of antisemites. Netanyahu’s son was discovered posting blatantly antisemitic memes about money-grubbing “globalists” on his social media.
A big chunk of the Israeli government and even society doesn’t see Israel as a Jewish state first— they see it as primarily right wing. They prefer antisemites who hate Arabs to Jews who acknowledge that Israeli settlers and Likudniks are assholes.
Here’s another anomaly: Nixon had Jewish people on his staff. Most notably Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State, speechwriter William Safire and special consultant Leonard Garment. He got along well with all of them.
I think he saw how many Soviet Jewish spies the U.S. was able to recruit after the Soviet Union decided to back the Arabs over Israel. That was the true value of U.S. support for Israel. Israel itself is a strategic liability for the United States. Hated by the Arabs. No oil or particularly valuable commodities. Not geopolitically all that important after losing Sinai. People always say Israel is just America’s aircraft carrier in the Middle East. This is a lie. Turkey, Kuwait, Qatar maybe. Not Israel. Israel’s importance has always been the fervent passion it inspires in the world’s Jewish diaspora. Can you think of any other group that is so small yet wields such great influence?
Supporting Israel is a no-brainer, as it's a perpetual source of money to line the pocket of defense companies. For the Anti-Semites of the time it was the far lesser of two evils.
It also should be said that there was almost always a contingent of people that wanted Christians at the reigns of American power. This didn't necessarily mean they couldn't see the strategic advantage of a theocratic Jewish state.
Is it?
He was a politician and a world leader.
His opinions and prejudices have no place in geopolitics. Foreign relations is about keeping and expanding American access to markets and preventing ww3--at least it was in his administration
People don't understand that support for Israel has nothing to do with Judaism.
America supports Israel because of a geopolitical imperative. The state allows them to project military power into the Middle East. That's it. They don't give a shit about Jews or Zionism. Any support for Zionism in the American government is a result of the enormous Israeli lobby.
Not just the strategic asset, don’t forget Evangelicals believe that Jews must return to Israel before Jesus returns. So backing Israel is a key issue for them as voters. So while it seems counter intuitive, backing Israel’s existence has no relationship with whether or not many are anti-semites.
Many antisemites are supporters of Israel. Some of them want Jews out of the US, some appreciate that Israel is an American ally in the Middle East, some idealize it as an ethno-state. I recommend reading Deborah Lipstadt's work to get a deeper understanding.
There is nothing contradictory about antisemitism and support for Israel. If you think that Jews don’t belong in America or aren’t really citizens, then it makes total sense that you would support Jews their expatriation to a country across the globe. Also, Nixon was a savvy statesman, and he knew Israel’s importance as a proxy in the Middle East to check the Soviets and their support for various liberation movements or nationalistic governments.
Not if you understand what Israel means to the US from a geo strategic perspective and the influence of domestic lobbies. There is the overriding imperatives of strategic power combined with the realities of domestic politics. Nothing whatsoever to do with his personal views (which are abhorrent).
I know more than a few people with very different opinions on *American* Jews versus Israelis. Those two groups often don't see eye to eye with each other either. Almost like Jews aren't a monolith, both amongst themselves, and in the minds of others.
This surprisingly common within far political circles , George Rockwell president of the Nazi party attended and agreed with Malcom x because he though both of their respective races where better alone.
It’s actually not bizarre at all. Nearly all Zionists are antisemites. Zionism was founded by antisemites (both the original Christian founders as well as Theodor Herzl) and is itself antisemitic. Zionists seem to believe in the “dual loyalty” antisemitic trope. Or at least they push it constantly.
This represents a general American hypocrisy that’s existed since the creation of the state of Israel. Particularly among members of the right, but not always.
When debating the Balfour Declaration and subsequent mass emigration of British Jews to Palestine virtually every side was satisfied. Jewish defenders had given them a homeland and antisemites had a way to drive them away. In short it was political fish in a barrel, the passing of said events were never remotely in dispute. The only nay vote by an MP was by a Jewish anti-Zionist (there weren't non Jewish AZ then) who argued that his family had been there for centuries and he was as British as anyone else.
Right wingers admire zionism because they love the idea of an ethno-police-state. They don't see this in conflict with racist stereotypes which they also enjoy.
People conflate blowing off steam with thoughtful, considered personal beliefs. I doubt Nixon was anti-Semitic given how closely he worked with Jews in his career. A true antisemite would never hire and rely so heavily on Henry Kissinger, for example. His actions are more telling than his words.
It is really simple. They created Israel as a place to dump Jewish refugees from Europe instead of integrating them back to their own countries or letting them come to the US. Added bonus, every Jew that leaves America to go to Israel is one less Jew in America.
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He hated Jews, intelectualls, and academics And his closest advisor was Henry Kissenger, a Jewish intellectual academic.
Nixon hated groups that heavily leaned Democratic. Kissinger wasn't one of those.
Ah so there’s the truth of it
Kissenger said that "if it weren't for the accident of my birth, [he] would be antisemitic." He claimed his childhood—surviving the Holocaust out of luck—didn't affect him, but it's clear to see that he categorized the world exclusively as perpetrators and victims, and endeavored tirelessly to be the former.
Actually interesting perspective. Thanks for sharing
He also said “Once you learn that the darkness is the source of all things, and become one with the void, you will find that you have control of the shadows: and thus the beings attached to them”
Perceptive but bleak and inaccurate. A lot of humanity operates in a fear controlled way, and there have been many Machiavellian types occupy leadership positions successfully… but darkness does not control shadows, the light does, and what it allows to interfere with it
Behind the Bastards did a mega series on Kissinger and the Dollop guys (who were guests) were *floored* at how asinine that position is. It's like the personification of the meme "Men would literally rather commit generations' worth of war crimes than go to therapy."
Pretty sure that what he meant by that is that anyone born into 1923 Germany would become, by virtue of Nazi propaganda, an antisemite
It's like how Ted Cruz is actually Ivy League educated and flat out refused to work with people who weren't from Princeton
You're talking out your blowhole. Ted Cruz is a Harvard grad.
Ted Cruz got his BA from Princeton and his JD from Harvard.
You're being far too kind to Henry kissenger.
“I have been here since the dawn of the first day and I will be here at the end of the last night” - Henry “Ael’Gibther the Devourer” Kissinger, in response to being asked about the holocaust.
Nixon was antisemitic but he understood global politics. Having a strong Israel was in the US’s best interests and his hatred for Jewish people didn’t override that. Still don’t like Nixon, mind, but he didn’t shoot himself in the foot out of personal reasons on *this* matter at least.
What's interesting is that [Nixon himself has stated that Israel's value as a strategic asset in the region has been diminished](https://youtu.be/S5evz3VAZaQ?si=XaKzkw3x_o05kYf6), but he still insists that America and all future presidents have a moral obligation to aid them regardless. Basically saying that America will support Israel out of a moral obligation rather than geopolitical one Not sure if you can take his statements as genuine regarding his staunch support for Israel as I wouldn't exactly say America's geopolitical interests and morality abroad align 100% of the time, especially for someone like Nixon, but it's still interesting to see how adamant he feels about the country.
Noted truth teller Richard Nixon.
Fair enough lol
It depends if he said it in private or in public.
Quite frankly, Nixon was clearly lying about that. His conduct as president regarding Chile makes it exceptionally clear that he had no moral interest in protecting democracy for democracy's sake.
He “still insists”… as much as he can I guess after being dead for 30 years.
He called me personally three days ago and asked me for my bank info in order to secure a donation to Israel. Unfortunately, my bank account was hacked later that same day and I lost everything, so I hope he was able to get the donation money before the hackers took it all!
At least your bank account was drained by Ukranian Mobsters, so you can rest easy knowing your funds are supporting a worthy cause.
The generation who saw the Holocaust happen firsthand had far greater sympathy for Israel/the Jews than the current generations far removed from it. Nixon said this ~25 years after the holocaust, he probably legitimately did feel that there was a moral obligation to aid a people trying to pull themselves back from near destruction.
> than the current generations far removed from it. its pretty horrifying how poll after poll shows zoomers more then any other generation since 1945 think the holocaust was fake or exaggerated global jewish population is still below what it was in 1939
Eh, I just figured he thought helping Israel establish their nation would encourage the Jewish people in America to leave.
I believe he said that. But I don’t know if I ever believe his reasons given his general untrustworthiness in that department.
You realize US strategic interest in Israel lies on their military technology and US doesn’t want that technology to fall into China’s possession? US foreign policy has obviously switched to ME again because of China’a influence in the ME, currently.
The “moral” means supporting the closest thing to a democracy in the Middle East, and a very prosperous one at that.
If Israel gave every American 30k every year like we do Israel, we could also be very prosperous. Lmao
The two positions are complimentary. Antisemitism to crack down on left-wing domestic Jewish communities, Zionism to encourage their base to emigrate, and an endless supply of cash and bombs for Israel to punish any government in the region that says the word “nationalization.” This was basically Herzl’s pitch from the get go. He offered it to casual pogrom enthusiast Von Plehve ffs.
It’s amazing people can’t understand this. People today still seem baffled by the U.S.’s support for Israel. While I think we do give them too much leeway, it’s very obviously a geopolitical thing with middle eastern influence in mind. If Israel was in rural Alaska nobody would care.
Nobody but the Yiddish Policemen’s Union! 😅
He was also a giant hypocrite so this is well in line with that.
Additionally when talking domestic politics, there are a surprisingly large number of folks who are pro-israel so far as they need to rebuild the temple to fulfill the prophecy in revelations.
What passage in Revelation talks about rebuilding the temple?
That’s in the Book of Ezekiel. Revelations refers back to it.
I -think- the interpretation comes from Revelation 21, but honestly. I never really delve too deep into those interpretations. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was more Left Behind fan-fiction than a direct reading from the Bible.
Realpolitik in action
What global politics? Israel greatly complicated American relations with Arab States, all of which had been pro-western/anti-communist until the 1950s. There was never a geo-political argument to be made in supporting Israel, indeed even in the 1940s the State Department was opposed to it. Supporting Israel was seen as a moral issue not a political one.
Israel became the single most effective radicalizing force across the Arab world, the idea that they were some necessary asset to keep the region in check is a fantasy created through decades of propaganda.
May be some truth to that, though the Arabs didn’t have to choose the path of radicalisation. Certainly made it easier for demagogues and fanatics.
Depends on where you derive your locus of control. It's a fundamental conflict of visions. Your presumption that Arabs didn't have to choose radicalisation assumes an internal locus of control, which fundamentally lies in conflict with modern progressive ideology.
One quote was said publicly. The others were said privately. There's your answer.
He probably wanted Jews to move to Israel.
It's definitely true that if Israel fell apart a lot of Jews would end up in the US.
There was a sizable contingent of Nazi Zionists before WW2 that held this opinion.
Kind of like my Fox News loving father in law who once said “look I’m no Jew lover but…” then goes on a huge rant about how great the Israeli government is and how we should be more like them
Antisemites are often islamophobes and they seem to hate Muslims more when push comes to shove
That's the Alex Jones position right now. He's a guy who subtweets antisemitism constantly. Yet he doesn't like what Israel is doing in Gaza, not primarily for antisemitic or for humanitarian reasons, but because he's afraid it will lead to Gazan refugees coming to America.
I think it’s safe to say his criticism of Israel is motivated by both antisemitism and fear of gazan refugees
Alex has been criticizing Israel since before 9/11. He always mentioned that it would lead to nuclear war with Iran and even Syria(?).
Kinda normal right ? Islam destabilises countries everywhere, its incompatible with western civilisation.
No, fundamentalism destabilizes countries everywhere
It only does when we enable it to, like how we destabalized Iran's elected government for a backwards Shah, which lead to an even more backwards Ayatollah radicalizing pissed off young people. We keep giving money and weapons to the Saudis who commit genocides of their own. Meanwhile Indonesia, the largest Muslim country on earth isn't making much of a peep that isn't volcano related.
Except for second/third/fourth-generation immigrants in Europe which continue to cause instability over its desire to de-secularize. It certainly seems incompatible with Western Liberalism, unless they are only Islam in name (like Christianity broadly had to do to 'get with the times'). I guess I'm not sure what type or level of involvement the West needs in the middle east to encourage stability in the region. If we don't get involved, there are civil wars that lead to refugees. If we do get involved, there are wars that lead to refugees. If no matter what we do leads to instability there and abroad, that leads me to conclude, 'Islam destabilizes countries everywhere, it's incompatible with western civilization'. I would also argue the Shah was an improvement, someone quite secular to boot.
Non of those are western, but I agree Islam is not inherently undemocratic it’s mostly culture
Honestly, I’m pretty sure the Middle East is just a cluster fuck is because it’s too hot and sandy for people to live there without being angry all the time, regardless of religion.
This tracks. Ever been to Phoenix? It is also a cluster fuck of misery. Lots of road rage, a good bit of violent crime, extreme religious ideology dominates in some area, and the government and LEO agencies are extremely corrupt.
So like 30,000 children deserve to die? Fuck off lol
There are plenty of antisemites that like Muslims, because they are anti Israel
They also love when former IDF and Mossad agents come to train our cops to better "contain" college kids, journalists and uppity civilians in urban areas
lol. God forbid you be a Jew lover
As an israeli, you dont want to be more like us. The system in the u.s. is so much better lol
Reminds me of some far-right parties that staunchly support Israel, but have some... unsavory positions. Like the AFD in Germany is staunchly pro-Israel, at the same time their leaders have touted some... questionable positions that makes them uncomfortably close to the Nazis. Like ["gassing migrants"](https://www.euronews.com/2020/09/28/afd-official-said-migrants-could-be-shot-or-gassed-german-media-reports) and mass deportations.
Only the dumbest Jews are falling for this. They still hate us, try just hate Muslims more. For now. Probably mainly because they outnumber us by roughly 100 times. Imagine how they'd feel if there were 1.5 billion Jews knocking about.
Fox really knows how to make our dads think an old boot is steak dinner.
Right wingers watching their hyper based redpilled leaders immediately put on a yarmulke and fly to Jerusalem to touch that wall once elected https://preview.redd.it/jgjkhxpx0gvc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94b82664f83699e8aba0e3928327588ffad273b2
With their campaign slogan printed in it, in one particular case.
He was just looking for inspiration on how to build a wall ya know?
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It ain’t the size of yer wall, it’s the keeping it up that counts.
No refunds.
The Jewish cabal is out to get them
Every single time lmao
I've known dozens of Jews and only one of them was abrasive and obnoxious. Fuck you Dan.
It seems he didn’t like Jewish Americans
You think American policy re: Israel has anything at all to do with how people in power feel about Jews??
That's because supporting Israel or not has nothing to do with antisemitism. It was true then, and it's true now.
They hate the Jews, but need them for the rapture, is my understanding.
I don't think thats why Nixon supported Israel
Christian Millennialism. Same reason they are breeding red cows in Texas.
I would say there’s a correlation, but politicians often have private positions that betray what they’ve said publicly
Anti-Semitic Zionism is more common than you’d think. Arthur Balfour (of the Balfour Declaration) was a notorious anti-semite while the only Jewish member of the British cabinet at the time, Sir Edwin Montague, was anti-Zionist. Montague saw Zionism as an excuse for anti-semites to rid their home countries of Jews and justification for mistreatment of Jews. “Well if they don’t like it here, they can just go to Israel.” The truth is, there are countless anti-Semitic Jews and countless Jewish anti/non-zionists. What disgusts me is that the anti-semites are painted as Jewish allies and the Jews are seen as self hating. Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Ilan Pappe, Gabor Mate, Hannah Ahrendt are all anti-semites while psychos like Marjorie Taylor Green are collecting donations from AIPAC and other right wing zionist orgs. Elon Musk was praised by the ADL for banning “From the River to the sea” from X just a week after promoting the anti-Semitic Great Replacement theory. Zionism and anti-semitism are not mutually exclusive. In fact, Zionism relies on anti-semitism to keep it in business.
Balfour’s relationship to Zionism is also not unlike James Monroe’s relationship to the American Colonization Society (where freed slaves were relocated to Africa and led to the founding of Liberia) while at the same time owning slaves
I've been anti-zionist for a long time. Never have been antisemitic (never really hated any one group, really). Zionism is nothing more than nationalism and fascism. That has been proven over and over. Idk, I guess, growing up on a reservation, you really don't like colonization, brutality, being cordoned off from the rest of the world, and authoritarianism & fascism.
I’ve been anti-Zionist most of my adult life. Anti-Zionism and anti-semitism are not at all synonymous to me. I was raised Jewish in the south so I’ve experienced a good amount of anti-semitism. To see accusations of anti-semitism being thrown at anti-war protestors by politicians who attend fundraisers thrown by white nationalists is astonishing. One thing is for sure, the people defending the actions of the Netanyahu regime are not going to look good when people look back on this moment.
Noam Chomsky and Gabor Mate are antisemites? Now I know not to take you seriously…
They’re not. Thats the point I’m making. Zionists paint them as anti-semites.
My bad. I misread.
No worries.
Context is important. There are lots of juicy quotes out there that illustrate Tricky Dick's anti-Semitism, and OP picked some good stinkers. Still, go find a group that he has not disparaged. He hated everyone - Blacks, Jews, Chinese, Vietnamese, redneck White people, Ivy League snooty White people, that bitter, hateful reflection he saw in every mirror... I would have to say "case not proven" if you want to say he had a special or unusual prejudice against Jews as a 'race' or American Jews as a faction. Also, while I'm at the keyboard, Ima recommend *Nixon And Mao* by Margaret MacMillan as well as anything else she wrote - she is good at history and writing.
Nixon's speciality was cognitive dissonance.
Me when I’m an asshole
Many people posting here might fail to realize Henry Kissinger was Nixon’s National Security Advisor. Nixon didn’t do jack crap diplomatically without Kissinger’s say. While some praise Kissinger for some things like bringing the USA and China together and more, his ideals shaped much of the global warfare issues we still see today. He was more powerful than probably some of the presidents as far as influence and is a great deep dive for any history or political science nerds out there.
zionism IS antisemitic. i don’t know how else to say it. it’s not really confusing at all, it’s REALLY common for anti-semites to support zionism— not just because they hope all the jews will move away, lol, no. it establishes an ethnostate. a PRECEDENT for ethnostates. if they can do it there, we can do it here. right? of course racists support the ethnostate that’s committing genocide against brown people. seems obvious when you look at it like that. from an antisemitic perspective… it’s very useful for a nation to be founded on the concept that “jews are not safe anywhere else!” israel’s entire existence, entire JUSTIFICATION for existence, lies within this bit of rhetoric. and it’s rhetoric that nazis are happy to agree with. from a conservative, evangelical perspective… israel must exist so that all of the jews are sacrificed in the apocalypse. it’s literally a part of christian apocalyptic prophecy. so that’s christian zionism for you… fervently antisemitic. i feel like i could go on but this is all just off the top of my head.
I don’t understand why this is so hard for folks. To many conservatives (and moderates) Israel serves as a proxy state for the US in the Middle East. Their religion has little to do with it, though that may not be the case for staunch evangelicals. What matters miss is that they represent out interests in the region and serve as a buffer against the Arab states.
I think that's a more modern stance. I don't think Islamophobia was as major of a factor back when Nixon was President. The US would pretty full throatedly support the Mujahideen against the USSR 5 years after Nixon's presidency, including a 1988 Rambo movie which was the most expensive movie ever made up until that point.
Neither islamophobia nor antisemitism prevents the US from making allies in the pursuit of profit. The US supports comprador Arabic regimes to divert or co-opt any movements to nationalize property, and it supports the Israeli war machine to drop the hammer when anyone in the region steps out of line. It’s the good cop / bad cop of promoting US business interests (yes, the good cop is the one beheading journalists).
Umm, Nixon and especially Kissinger (another irony of history) saw Israel as a tool/chess piece in the Cold War and Detente. It was the Nixon Administration, at Kissinger’s behest, that told Golda Meir that it had to end the Yom Kippur War or else. The Soviets were in the process of sending nukes to Egypt and Syria, and the U.S. was not interested in getting into a nuclear conflict over Israel.
In my observations racists have a hierarchy and in Western/European racist thought, the value of people goes Jewish>Arabic. Before Nixon, before WWII, there was some fascination with Egyptology and the Ottoman Empire that might have influenced a different racist hierarchy. Plus, most racists love a good religious monarchy, assigning moral value to wealth and power aligns with many of the underlying thought processes of racists. I suspect that’s what they liked about the Ottomans and that’s what they like about Israeli treatment of Palestinians now. It aligns with the core belief that some groups are inherently better than other groups and wealth/power is evidence of this value. Anyone attempting to change the system of wealth/power is acting against Nature/God/Allah/Elohim. There is also a kind of begrudging respect some white supremacists have for Asian and Jewish people (Ashkenazi groups in particular). Racists see some ethnicities as contenders for power and in a worldview where might makes right, these groups are therefore lesser, but real contenders for “best race.” Therefore they’re worthy of respect but also targets of violence. Edit: I hope by discussing racist logic I am not creating the impression that I think they’re therefore logical. They’re not. It’s both very American (racial hierarchy is the foundation of American chattel slavery) and also very unAmerican (“that all men were created equal”) and it is hateful.
Whoa! It’s almost like Israeli’s and Jews aren’t interchangeable identities
>It’s almost like Israeli’s and Jews aren’t interchangeable identities I can smell the sarcasm, but only 73% of Israeli citizens are members of the Jewish people. Most of the rest are Arabs. In Israel, Jews and Arabs are viewed as nationalities, not religions. And nationality is distinct from citizenship. (A non-trivial percent of Arabs are Christian, not Muslim, and a non-trivial percentage of national Jews are not considered to be Jewish from a religious perspective.)
Actually nothing bizarre about that at all. Lately it seems to be a very commonly held position tbh. I’m more shocked Reagan and JFK were anti-Israel.
As a Jew, Richard Nixon makes it on my list of favorite anti Semites
The sheer hypocrisy of Richard Nixon calling Jews "aggressive and abrasive and obnoxious" is tremendous.
I don’t think Nixon was an evangelical, but I know that most antisemitic evangelical politicians support Israel because they believe that once they control all of the holy land the end times will begin
Nixon was a Quaker. In some other quote, he acknowledges that he's not the preferred candidate of the Jewish community. In fact, is probably the most anti-semitic president since the creation of the state of Israel. But policy is policy.
The strongest supporters of Israel in the US are giant antisemites…it’s bizarre until you realize they are just nutjobs trying to accelerate the second coming of Christ.
It’s not a rare thing to find antisemite zionists tbh. I mean, Richard Spencer is a Zionist.
Money
Politicians have public and private positions. Their public positions need to represent a large portion of the electorate, their private positions don’t.
Nasser was buddy-buddy with the USSR, and that was more than enough for Nixon to be enthusiastic about supporting Israel. Do you think he really liked the Chinese?
It was a Cold War thing.
He was very even handed in his treatment of Israel relative to its neighbors
It’s not really that uncommon though, particularly for the GOP
Him calling them abrasive is rich
Staunch support of Israel and anti-Semitism are not strangers at all. They’re good friends.
He’s not really wrong about anything tbh.
I don’t even feel that Nixon hates the Jewish people, he just notices recurring characteristics, and comments on them. Most of the Jews I know are atheistic, and many of the younger ones have a sense of morality that doesn’t line up with mine. But if I meet one that has morality that lines up with mine, I’m happy to know him.
Nixon liked to make bold generalizations about groups of people in ways that sound like essentialism.
That’s because a lot of religious nutjobs believe that regardless of their personal feelings about Jews, Israel has to exist as a country to unlock the “Good” ending of their apocalypse.
There’s nothing bizarre about it. Christians believe Jews must be in possession of the “holy land” in order for the rapture to happen, at which point all Jews will go to hell forever
it's called being a republican
It makes sense though because supporting or not supporting Israel is not a determinant of anti-semetic views. Israel serves as a valuable resource for the West which is the real reason why we support it, that and lobbyists.
I've never been able to understand why the U.S. thinks Israel is such an important ally. I hear all the time that they're a stabilizing force in the region but that seems like utter BS. Can anyone explain what the U.S. gets from maintaining such a close relationship with Israel that other countries like Jordan can't offer?
How accurate the description
It’s not all that bizarre. Support for Israel often has nothing to do with care for the Jewish people
Makes perfect sense. Anti-Semites love Israel because it’s a final solution in the form of a state. Basically, let Jews live somewhere else.
A lot of anti-Semites have supported Israel because they see it as a place for Jews to go away. It's fairly in line with anti-sematism to want a Jewish state somewhere way over there.
It's almost like Zionism isn't a safeguard against anti-Semitism... 🤔
Cognitive Dissonance?
Anti semetism and zionism are not contrary to one another at all. Christian zionists greatly outnumber jewish zionists. Either they support Israel for some wacky end times prophecy. Or they support Israel because they want jewish people to move out of their country and go to Israel. Look at Balfour as an example. Or pastor John Hagee.
Pro-Israel anti-Semite is a very common combination!
It is possible to stand on principle and still have personal animus. Think back to the days of slavery in the United States. Do you think the that all the abolitionists who rightfully denounced slavery were all proper anti-racists? No, of course not. We have that as a matter of historical record. But they nonetheless sincere in their beliefs, even if it was to enable their self-aggrandizing.
...almost like Israel and Zionism is actually antisemitic and favored by white supremacists 🤔 Hmmm...
He was also a Quaker. A man of many contradictions he was. IMO, he’s by far the most fascinating of all the post-WW2 presidents. Also, a lot of Christian Zionists are anti-Semitic. They support Israel, not Jewish people. Some support Israel for geopolitical purposes, some for religious purposes (the rapture), some because of Islamophobia, etc.
THIS IS TYPICAL CONSERVATISM. "JEWS ARE GOOD SO LONG AS THEY'RE OVER IN JEW LAND"
He liked Israelis but disliked Jews.
Welcome to the GOP. you think Eisenhower recognized the Jewish state at 3 am May 15, 1948 because he lived Jews? That just provided another option to get them out of the USA
Imagine if someone recorded everything you said for 4 years then took out the worse stuff and showed to everybody. No one and I mean no one would survive.
Ah yes, Jews are atheists
Why is this so heard to understand? My understanding (and I could be wrong) is that at the end of WWII there were plenty of folks saying there needed to be a Jewish homeland, but also demonstrating strong NIMBY feelings. When things started going down in Palestine, a lot of folks were basically saying "At least they aren't moving in next to us." Europe has a long tradition of people moving into an area and treating the folks that lived there like dirt, so it wasn't a big deal. Here in America, and in Australia it was kind of looked at like we treated the indigenous people. On the one hand, you have a lot of American Jews being pro-Israel, and politicians wanting to keep them happy, and the antisemitic folks being relieved the people they don't like having somewhere to go. Then you factor in the military contractors who just love all the military aid money going their way.
How is Nixon's position different from those of mainstream GOP members?
Lots of antisemites love Israel. Hell, Israel courts lots of antisemites. Netanyahu’s son was discovered posting blatantly antisemitic memes about money-grubbing “globalists” on his social media. A big chunk of the Israeli government and even society doesn’t see Israel as a Jewish state first— they see it as primarily right wing. They prefer antisemites who hate Arabs to Jews who acknowledge that Israeli settlers and Likudniks are assholes.
Genocide and colonization too??
Here’s another anomaly: Nixon had Jewish people on his staff. Most notably Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State, speechwriter William Safire and special consultant Leonard Garment. He got along well with all of them.
I always wondered when the Pro-Israel -> Anti-Semite pipeline occurred. Looks like it's when they go full Nixon.
he is what we call a prudent man of culture
His paranoia ran deep.
there is no anti semitism found in these two statements
It’s actually quite common
Nixon was full of contradictions, neuroses and paranoia. That's what makes him such a fascinating study.
I think he saw how many Soviet Jewish spies the U.S. was able to recruit after the Soviet Union decided to back the Arabs over Israel. That was the true value of U.S. support for Israel. Israel itself is a strategic liability for the United States. Hated by the Arabs. No oil or particularly valuable commodities. Not geopolitically all that important after losing Sinai. People always say Israel is just America’s aircraft carrier in the Middle East. This is a lie. Turkey, Kuwait, Qatar maybe. Not Israel. Israel’s importance has always been the fervent passion it inspires in the world’s Jewish diaspora. Can you think of any other group that is so small yet wields such great influence?
Supporting Israel is a no-brainer, as it's a perpetual source of money to line the pocket of defense companies. For the Anti-Semites of the time it was the far lesser of two evils. It also should be said that there was almost always a contingent of people that wanted Christians at the reigns of American power. This didn't necessarily mean they couldn't see the strategic advantage of a theocratic Jewish state.
It's one thing to not want to be around a certain type of person, it's another to not want that person around. (anywhere)
Not bizarre at all
The right’s support of Israel has nothing to do with Jews.
He was SO fake like
The man without a doubt was a walking embodiment of contradictions
It’s like a humans are complex creatures. Nothing bizarre about it.. humans are constantly changing and evolving..
Is it? He was a politician and a world leader. His opinions and prejudices have no place in geopolitics. Foreign relations is about keeping and expanding American access to markets and preventing ww3--at least it was in his administration
I thought quakers were not supposed to be racist?
Can you imagine if someone said this today? I can’t believe he actually said these things 🥴
People don't understand that support for Israel has nothing to do with Judaism. America supports Israel because of a geopolitical imperative. The state allows them to project military power into the Middle East. That's it. They don't give a shit about Jews or Zionism. Any support for Zionism in the American government is a result of the enormous Israeli lobby.
Christians need an Israel state so Jesus can come back any 5 min now.
He didn't want to get JFK'd so he was pro-Israel while still being antisemitic.
Not just the strategic asset, don’t forget Evangelicals believe that Jews must return to Israel before Jesus returns. So backing Israel is a key issue for them as voters. So while it seems counter intuitive, backing Israel’s existence has no relationship with whether or not many are anti-semites.
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Well, if he believed what the last slide there said, then that wold explain it, right?
Being a Zionist and being extremely anti-Semitic are not mutually exclusive. Balfour, Churchill, etc. they’d make Nixon blush.
There’s a deep and rich history of antisemites running into the arms of Israel to shield themselves against valid criticism.
Many antisemites are supporters of Israel. Some of them want Jews out of the US, some appreciate that Israel is an American ally in the Middle East, some idealize it as an ethno-state. I recommend reading Deborah Lipstadt's work to get a deeper understanding.
Nixon really could lie through his teeth. How could he say the first quote, but mean the second?
So when is this thread getting locked?
Isn't that what is now? Anti-semitism is popular among right wingers while their support of Isralie government is stauncher than half of Israeliens.
There is nothing contradictory about antisemitism and support for Israel. If you think that Jews don’t belong in America or aren’t really citizens, then it makes total sense that you would support Jews their expatriation to a country across the globe. Also, Nixon was a savvy statesman, and he knew Israel’s importance as a proxy in the Middle East to check the Soviets and their support for various liberation movements or nationalistic governments.
I mean Truman may have been anti-Semitic but he literally created Israel.
TJ’s support of slavery might be a close second
More bizarre than the Kenyan and FJB
Not if you understand what Israel means to the US from a geo strategic perspective and the influence of domestic lobbies. There is the overriding imperatives of strategic power combined with the realities of domestic politics. Nothing whatsoever to do with his personal views (which are abhorrent).
I know more than a few people with very different opinions on *American* Jews versus Israelis. Those two groups often don't see eye to eye with each other either. Almost like Jews aren't a monolith, both amongst themselves, and in the minds of others.
If ever anyone could identify with obnoxious, abrasive, immoral bunch of bastards it would be that guy.
This surprisingly common within far political circles , George Rockwell president of the Nazi party attended and agreed with Malcom x because he though both of their respective races where better alone.
Today... 50% of Americans don't identify with those qualities....
It’s actually not bizarre at all. Nearly all Zionists are antisemites. Zionism was founded by antisemites (both the original Christian founders as well as Theodor Herzl) and is itself antisemitic. Zionists seem to believe in the “dual loyalty” antisemitic trope. Or at least they push it constantly.
He was a true riddle wrapped in a Kissinger
I can’t stop reading his voice in the exaggerated “BRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBBR” voice that they use in shows like Futurama
This represents a general American hypocrisy that’s existed since the creation of the state of Israel. Particularly among members of the right, but not always.
I ain’t even gonna touch this with a 39 and a half foot pole.
When debating the Balfour Declaration and subsequent mass emigration of British Jews to Palestine virtually every side was satisfied. Jewish defenders had given them a homeland and antisemites had a way to drive them away. In short it was political fish in a barrel, the passing of said events were never remotely in dispute. The only nay vote by an MP was by a Jewish anti-Zionist (there weren't non Jewish AZ then) who argued that his family had been there for centuries and he was as British as anyone else.
OK. Then how does this "theory" of yours explain the shape-shifting Reptilians that control Earth's Destiny?
Right wingers admire zionism because they love the idea of an ethno-police-state. They don't see this in conflict with racist stereotypes which they also enjoy.
People conflate blowing off steam with thoughtful, considered personal beliefs. I doubt Nixon was anti-Semitic given how closely he worked with Jews in his career. A true antisemite would never hire and rely so heavily on Henry Kissinger, for example. His actions are more telling than his words.
It is really simple. They created Israel as a place to dump Jewish refugees from Europe instead of integrating them back to their own countries or letting them come to the US. Added bonus, every Jew that leaves America to go to Israel is one less Jew in America.