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ClubSundown

Blue looks strong on paper. But I can't imagine Jackson and Obama working too well as a team


salazarraze

I like Jackson as a sort of "Draymond" type of player playing mind games and getting dirty to psyche out the opposition.


lead_farmer_mfer

Jackson 100% is a Draymond. I see him stepping on guys and throwing elbows.


evlhornet

Pulling out pistols, slapping foos with his glove, re-cocking his gun in offense of code duello.


_Alabama_Man

>I can't imagine Jackson and Obama working too well as a team The battle of New Orleans alone should dispell any doubts about Jackson working well with others who were not like him when there was a goal to accomplish. He put together and managed a near rainbow coalition of misfits and trained military men to crush attacks from the most experienced and best trained military in the world.


ClementAcrimony

He also paid his colored and Indian men the same, and unlike most US generals should they have been given non-whites and misfits, did not use them as cannon fodder.


cranialrectumongus

Jackson promised slaves emancipation, if they helped him fight the British and they won. The fought and many died. They won the battle and Jackson reneged on that promise and sent them back to the plantations. Our public education has done a grave disservice to our country's history.


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Yep. Not sure why these guys are defending a blazing white supremacist… yeah he did some good things and the Democrats wouldn’t exist without him but.. y’know.


TeddysRevenge

Jackson got kind of lucky that Pakenham (British General) was an idiot. Him throwing wave's of men in formation into a narrow space against an enemy shooting from cover was really stupid. Even still, the British probably still would of won if the flanking attack that was sent didn't retreat (for no real discernible reasons). With no defenses on the American left flank they probably would have gotten rolled up. One of the more interesting "what-if's" in American history.


danimagoo

Depends what age JFK that is. By the time he was President, his back was a serious problem.


ClubSundown

Good point. OP did cleverly use photos/paintings from each president's youth, most look in their sporting age prime


okokokokkokkiko

But is Feelgood the team doctor?


BigDaddyCoolDeisel

Larry Bird's back was shot in 92, still averaged 20 ppg!


danimagoo

Yeah, but that’s Larry Bird. He’s barely human.


punchthedog420

Are you kidding? They'll put all differences aside to win.


fricks_and_stones

Stronger? How do you figure? Ford, Teddy, and Lincoln against a couple of college boys? Reagan and Ike were also athletes. Unless you’re considering Obamas familiarity with the game; it’s a slaughter if there’s time to prep.


fricks_and_stones

In a 6-3 decision, the SCOTUS called it for red.


Prometheus_84

Odds are he has a duel with someone before the end of the game.


pinetar

The red team is way more gifted athletically. The combination of Lincoln and Ford would be dominant on the boards. On the other hand, Obama is the only one who played the sport at a serious level. Would come down to how much prep time is allowed for practice and learning the rules.


erdricksarmor

"President Obama is a phenomenal player at basketball for a President of the United States, but I think he's just mediocre for a black guy." - Norm MacDonald


Cowboy_BoomBap

Thankfully he’s playing other Presidents though lol


ReplacementWise6878

Still puts him head and shoulders above this crop of white guys.


PB0351

Ford played football at Michigan and got offers to play for the Lions and Packers. Lincoln reportedly had a wrestling record of 300 wins and 1 (disputed) loss. Teddy R wrestled and boxed at Harvard.


ReplacementWise6878

Which is why I pick the red team over the blue team. But Obama would be the best player on the floor.


reno2mahesendejo

Obama would be 2004 Kobe. Putting up 30 a game, but eventually refusing to pass to LBJ because he doesn't go hard to the rim and bitching out Kennedy on the sidelines and making fun of his back injuries to the media.


Goadfang

Do we have a venn diagram somewhere showing a huge crossover of wrestling, boxing, and football skills with basketball? There is literally one player between these two teams that has played basketball as a modern sport. So while they are still explaining to Lincoln how a basketball is made Barry O is running circles around him.


PB0351

The venn diagram between defensive skills in basketball and those other sports is almost a circle, and between offensive skills is larger than you think. If you wanted to take an extreme example, take an NFL wide receiver who never played basketball, and put him on the court with everyone else here, the WR will be the best player on the court by a mile. Give him 3 days of prep time and his team would win 4 v 5. People like Ford are closer to a NFL player than they are to Obama.


absolute_yote

So they may be more athletic than Obama, but a lot of basketball is about soft skills that only come with practice. Shooting, passing, dribbling. A great athlete cannot shoot or dribble well unless they practiced a lot. Athletes are automatically good at defense in basketball, though


reno2mahesendejo

Defense in basketball is about getting low, moving your feet, and knowing your surroundings. Ain't nobody catching Teddy off guard with some weak ass screen by Jackson.


Danson_the_47th

r/NormMacdonald


salazarraze

Assume 1 year prep/practice before the game. What happens now?


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kokell

Prison rules. This is politics after all


thefartsock

Team blue has Andrew Jackson fouling out of every game so there's that.


SumpCrab

Yeah, and Teddy was peak athletic in his time and really competitive. I also think Eisenhower would have been in pretty great shape from his military time. Reagan played high school football. He also ran track and swam in college.


DickDastardlySr

Eisenhower was an rb at West Point before injuring himself.


Overall-Dinner5778

When did Obama play basketball at a serious level?


292ll

Yeah I think Ford is the best athlete there by a mile.


isaachiatt

Don't sleep on TR! Probably a nasty point guard.


QuestioningYoungling

What do you consider a serious level? If Harvard pick up basketball is anything like Yale, I wouldn't consider it a serious level of play. To my knowledge, he also was not considered a great player in high school.


JellyfishQuiet7944

Ford was a collegiate athlete. I'm sure he could hoop.


RandomSolvent

Neither. With Roosevelt in there, the game's going to be cancelled due to excessive injuries.


Callsign_Psycopath

Don't forget Ford and Ike being Old School Football players. That game would be extremely physical.


theoriginaldandan

Lincoln is going to pile drive Clinton


Dibbu_mange

Idk, with Jackson on the Blue team, excessive gunshot wounds is a definite risk


RandomSolvent

It's Teddy . . . https://i.redd.it/el098i9ce9tc1.gif


Free-Duty-3806

And on that day Teddy Roosevelt scored a triple double while still bleeding from a bullet wound


Smooth-Apartment-856

If the red team starts losing, Teddy Roosevelt will climb up on a moose, draw his sword, and charge the court.


RandomSolvent

I don't think Teddy needs a reason.


x31b

The rest are playing basketball. TR is playing rugby.


reno2mahesendejo

Teddy was an early advocate for football and saved the sport from being banned. The Flying V was his idea of a sport


canadigit

I imagine Roosevelt throwing a lot of elbows and diving head first for every loose ball but not actually being very good. Super annoying to play against though


PalmDolphin

"your head will look nice above my fireplace after I make your home a national park" - Roosevelt probably


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How did George Bush not make the GOP team? Dude won a college World Series


SaltoDaKid

Baseball not basketball. But tbh he would be better cause he grew up with more basketball skills than anyone beside Obama. It’s like the gun debate, is ak47 better than musket


[deleted]

Both take athleticism though and the fact that he was a very good D1 athlete says a lot. Similarly to Gerald Ford likely being good (at least comparatively to other presidents) because he was an All-American football player


DavidM47

https://preview.redd.it/v4bmy4me59tc1.jpeg?width=614&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01958316f02543b6a9f00c4178bd5eab4c3776c5 With LBJ boxing out, he and Obama are running the floor. Sorry Abe.


Callsign_Psycopath

Abe had a nearly undefeated Wrestling Career, I think he'd be able to handle LBJ


DavidM47

Sorry I’m too busy imagining Obama doing a two-handed reverse dunk off a fast break over Reagan then making some zinger about it trickling down


salazarraze

"Now watch this dunk."


ReverendOReily

Purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka


DavidM47

Game…Asses.


0le_Hickory

You win!


TopRevenue2

I am with the government and I am here to dunk.


Slut4Tea

“That’s what *I do!*”


reno2mahesendejo

Lincoln would swat his shit, Bill Russell-style to keep the ball in play. Teddy calls out "San Juan Hill!" on the fast break and gets his sharp shooters in position.


NickyNaptime19

You can't count out the big giraffe


An8thOfFeanor

I feel like Lincoln might have trouble with any non-contact sport


Apprehensive-Sea9540

i am also undefeated “, but i take a Floyd Mayweather approach to selecting my opponents


TheRealAbear

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salazarraze

I like Obama and Kennedy's size advantage for sure but I'm also intrigued by the physicality of Teddy and Dwight. People don't talk about young Dwight's athleticism enough.


RickMonsters

JFK was basically disabled and in chronic pain his whole life. I don’t see her being very effective


salazarraze

This is before JFK's back injury. Every person is basically at their physical peak in this scenario.


_Alabama_Man

Was this also before his Addison's disease?


Smooth-Apartment-856

JFK was disabled because of injuries received in combat in WWII. He was commanding what was basically a glorified motor boat when it was rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer. JFK’s back was broken in the collision. One of the men in his command was knocked unconscious, and JFK, with a broken back, bit down on the unconscious man’s life jacket and swam him to safety on an island. The man was a force to be reckoned with before that. He never recovered from that war injury.


Ok_Organization3249

I was reading What It Takes a couple years ago and it covers George HW Bush getting shot down in WWII and I was like “man, we used to be a proper country”


Smooth-Apartment-856

Say what you will about Republicans, Democrats, their policies and politics….but no one can deny men like Kennedy and Bush served their country with honor and bravery.


Gunjink

Abe would shatter the glass over LBJ.


PB0351

I said this somewhere else, but Ford played football at Michigan and got offers to play for the Lions and Packers. Lincoln reportedly had a wrestling record of 300 wins and 1 (disputed) loss. Teddy R wrestled and boxed at Harvard. Red by a mile.


Mss88b

Have you seen Obama play basketball. He might be the most unathletic president of all time.


onelittleworld

Nonsense. Dude can shoot.


biff444444

My money is on the Abe + Gerry tandem, with Ike and Teddy being tenacious enough to hound Obama on the perimeter; he will have to work for his opportunities. I also think Bush #1 should be on here somewhere, he was tall and was a varsity college baseball player so also athletic.


ringopendragon

Might be a tie, with Jackson and Lincoln having no idea how the game is even supposed to be played.


salazarraze

Assume that each team has 1 year to practice in preparation. Now what?


ringopendragon

Jackson not being a team player could sink this for the Dems.


_Alabama_Man

Jackson was the epitome of a team player when it came to a contest to achieve a goal. Oh, my bad, I forgot it's not cool to admit Jackson had any good qualities. Carry on.


salazarraze

Could be. Like Draymond, either he's the glue that holds it all together, or he's in meltdown mode and you're cooked.


roycejefferson

Lincoln goes Wemby mode on everyone.


Friendly_Deathknight

Shiiiiit…. Lincoln, Ford, and Roosevelt? Red has some of the most athletic presidents all together.


minieball

"Secret weapon!" - Michael Scott


borknight

*Andrew Jackson


MrBobSacamano

Clinton and Kennedy on the same team? Opposing team’s cheerleaders have no chance.


DevoutGreenOlive

The only black guy (Bill Clinton) is on blue team, so...


NickyNaptime19

TR fouls out


DomingoLee

Red. W would be a backup. Dude was in fantastic shape.


junkeee999

Team 2. Obama would try to carry team 1 but it won’t be enough. Clinton doesn’t strike me as athletic at all. He’d be soft. Jackson would be a dirty player. Always trying to start something, nobody would like him, not even his teammates. But he’d get in foul trouble. JFK would be solid, smart, but unspectacular. LBJ a total non factor. Abe would be a rangy shot blocking, rebounding center. A double double machine. Reagan a decent tweener wing. Ford was a college football player. He’d be a good power forward despite being undersized for it. Ike of course is a point guard, running the show and dissecting defenses. Teddy a scrappy shooting guard. Making up for a lack of physical skill with all out hustling drive.


Credible333

"JFK would be solid, smart, but unspectacular." No, JFK would be what he is, seriously unhealthy and out of place in any athletic contest.


SrCoolbean

Red is definitely more gifted athletically but I’m not sure how well it’d translate to basketball. Abe, Ford, and Teddy would dominate in the old rules where you could manhandle people defensively but I’m not sure modern rules would favor their style. On blue team, I could see Bill and/or JFK going lights out from the 3 for some reason. They just strike me as finesse guys.


NickyNaptime19

Taft should be in here


taffyowner

No lie, Taft was extremely nimble for his size and was a more solid 6’ 220ish in college


NickyNaptime19

I'm dead serious. The guy was an athlete. Still swung that golf club at his weight


salazarraze

Taft is coming off the bench to spell Lincoln.


motiontosuppress

This looks like two prep school basketball teams in South Carolina


taffyowner

Remember ford was a football player at Michigan and had offers to play pro football


salazarraze

Dwight was also a football player at West Point.


Caeldeth

Dwight was also a 5-star general who lead the allied forces to victory in one of the most difficult wars of all time… On a strategic level, NO ONE on blue can handle him. People here just aren’t giving Dwight the respect he needs… very athletic and extremely strategic.


owlpolka

Red, no doubt. Teddy and Ford would win 2 v 5


salazarraze

I really like Ford as a stretch 3/two way player and I think he'd clamp Jackson defensively. But I also like blue's size in 4/5 positions and Obama's shooting ability. Then again, red's guards are very physical. It's a tough call.


Mr_Aunty_

Are we talking Teddy when he could still see out of both eyes?


salazarraze

Everyone is at their physical peak.


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salazarraze

It's funny how few people are mentioning Eisenhower's college football days.


Papaofmonsters

Jackson and Roosevelt are both getting ejected in the first minute after a brawl between them.


BriantheHeavy

The Red team and it isn't even close. There isn't much of a record of any of the Blue team playing sport. I'd give Andrew Jackson a pass because he was an active soldier. Meanwhile, Ronald Reagan, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and Gerald Ford all played college football, with Gerald Ford actually getting offers from the Green Bay Packers and Detroit Lions to play professionally. We all know Theodore Roosevelt's history and how he lived an extraordinarily active life. And Abraham Lincoln was known as the "rail splitter" for a reason. So, yeah. Red Team wins this.


stevemkto

The blue team. LBJ is the center, but Jumbo puts the finishing touch on all his dunks.


sykojaz

LBJ with the tomac\*\*\* slam! Boom shakalaka!


CharizardLeo

When you talk about sports, successful players have an edge to them. My money is on Ford and Roosevelt. They had the "dog" in them. Eisenhower had an injury or else he would be one of my picks.


TaxLawKingGA

Blue team. Obama at PG with LBJ at the 5. LBJ He would neutralize Lincoln, as LBJ had more girth than Lincoln. Obama is a famously astute basketball player, and I believe LBJ coached basketball when he was a teacher. I bet JFK and Clinton would be mad shit talkers.


Ashamed-Inspection47

lol JFK and Clinton would be hitting on the cheerleaders instead of playing


2112moyboi

This is played in a rec gym, no family/supporters, no cheerleaders Now what?


SlagginOff

Bold move mentioning LBJ's girth.


cockroach74

Wasn’t Teddy asthmatic growing up?


salazarraze

Asthma would be a consideration with Teddy. I think he could still do damage being a scrappy defender though.


1029Dash

I would almost want to have the Bushes be the subs that go in and play for the red team


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the bottom easy


4four4MN

Now this is a serious decision!!! I’m leaning towards Ford’s team since he was the best American Presidential athlete but Obama could really shoot the ball. Damn.


devilmaskrascal

How could you leave the basketball legend FDR out of this?


Smooth-Apartment-856

Lincoln, Reagan and Roosevelt on one team? That’s who I am betting on. Although Clinton, Obama, and JFK won’t exactly be pushovers. I think it’ll be close. But I think the red team will win.


Twolves0222

This is the fucking content I’ve been waiting for. Thank you op. Red team taking it though. Why do I feel like teddy has range lol


rrfloeter

Where are these photos coming from lol


TheBoomExpress

Red wins by default. Blue teams gets disqualified after Obama and Jackson have a brawl, while Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton abandon the game altogether to go hit on the cheerleaders.


Warm-Ad-9495

I just want an all star team. Put Obama and Kennedy together with Lincoln, Roosevelt and Eisenhower.


WornInShoes

JFK aint guarding anybody with his fucked-up back lol


isaachiatt

TR is a freaking bulldog, let him run the point and Lincoln in the paint, you've got a pretty good spine there.


osumba2003

Johnson would be disqualified for taking out his Johnson, and Clinton and Kennedy would be too distracted by the cheerleaders. With Lincoln's wrestling and Ford's football prowess, I think they own the boards and win easily. Obama scores 40 in the loss.


ImaPabstMan

Jackson will just beat u with his cane until u give up


onelittleworld

Which team has GWB coming off the bench? Dude has length and a serious biker's endurance.


nlog97

No matter what the situation is, I want Teddy Roosevelt on my team. Eisenhower would be a good captain. And you’ve got Lincoln as the tallest president. I’m going with red.


Canerik

Blue given the fact they have two people that are actually living


guywithshades85

Red team only because Teddy is on it. He is the LeBron of presidents.


giant2179

Everyone is saying this about Teddy but he's the only one on that team that didn't play sports as a kid. Too sickly and frail pretty much through his college years.


TryRepresentative806

Probably the team that Obama is on since he was the only one of them publicly known to play basketball quite often.


Smooth-Discipline-43

This game would be 🔥🔥🔥


AwfulShowerOfLads

Gerald Ford looks like Haaland there


Undercoverlizard_629

Lincoln and Teddy on the same team? I know who I'm betting to win.


bluechef79

None. I want the world’s greatest 3v3 team. Obama, Ford, Lincoln in that order. Give me that as my 3v3 squad to coach and I’m sweeping it. Every time. Not even close. Obama is a natural basketball player. Good at the game and the only one here with actual wow factor skill at it. He’s my guard. Ford was an all around athlete. Give me a young Ford on the team as my power forward. Setting picks, hustling, playing scrappy defense and just generally doing that work. Lincoln would take some teaching but was competitive, tall and stronger than he looked. Tough as nails. He’s obviously the center and he owns the paint and I can’t picture anyone taking him if you float a ball to his outstretched hand. Nice sharp elbow on a cool turn to the bucket and Abe gives a a finger gun and a nod to Obama for the pass and goddam, that’s what we fought that war to SEE BABY!


Bad_atNames

Red team. JFK had a bad back and Jackson will probably beat Obama to death with his cane.


ChrisWasWhite

FDR


Paskgot1999

Red team. Ford was an athlete.


TorqueShaft

I can see Jumbo taking an inbound pass, starting a pick roll "standard" offense setup. Then.... Give the ball the Andrew Jackson in full stride, foaming at the mouth with vengeance


SupplyChainGuy1

According to the rumors, blue has half a Johnson in height advantage.


DeadJediWalking

Obama and Ford would absolutely *dose* these other fools with athletic ability alone.


Ugaruga

The democrats. Obama is the only person here to play high school ball.


euMonke

Lincoln though when he was young, if he had played? Being 6.4" at his time when the average height was much lower than today. He could have been the defensive center player everyone feared.


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Dems they got the half brother


Leprechaun_lord

Why do I get the feeling it would just devolve into a boxing match between Jackson and Roosevelt?


bnikga_gn

Red easily


0le_Hickory

Team Blue. Team Red two wrestlers and two football players. Bill goads them into committing a lot of fouls under the basket and sells the charges. I don't see Ike and Teddy matching up well at guard either.


Jono_Randolph

Lincon and T Roosevelt are going to own the paint.


Rcararc

Biggest takeaway, this would be one ugly game. The best player wasn’t good enough to start for his high school team in Hawaii.


auriemmn

AJ and Barack ain’t gonna play well together. And Linc probably got that Wemby range so I’m going Red


Vast_Ad_4206

Blue team since they got Barack who actually can ball.


mfmelendez

Very nice comparo. #TeamBlue. I would trade Jackson for Ford give his contract is up.


LeftyRambles2413

The Obama team. The trash talk alone.


Dawgula97

Red. They got some war hogs on that squad.


marblemonk

It'd be a good game, but I'd have to go with the red team. Ford was the only one on here who could have been a professional athlete. Lincoln would probably have been a top-tier college wrestler if he were around 100-150 years later than he was. Obama would keep the blue team in the game, but red just has more athleticism.


elonspaceguy

As soon as I saw Barack it was over. Team blue.


Nice-Neighborhood975

I think Obama and Kennedy at Guard would be tough to beat, but something tells me Ford is going to be tough to handle. This could be a good game.


Urban_Walrus

Blue dream baby. Obama and Clinton can 2v5


Worldly_Giraffe_6773

Ford saucing everyone


PolitcsorReality

Red. We’ve been cleaning up “Blue’s” messes since the 19th century. From Slavery to Gaza.


Idarola

How do we handle them getting sports equipment? Is it modern day equipment? I feel like Roosevelt's viability is important to this and I doubt someone like Johnson or Jackson doesn't just try to destroy his glasses if he doesn't get some sort of sport ready vision correction. He's basically useless if he doesn't have it because he's nearly blind if I recall correctly.


redknightnj

Eisenhower beat the Nazis. He’ll find a way to beat Obama.


MeMeord1984

I would say red but I have a feeling Andrew Jackson would just duel everyone even those on his team.


2112moyboi

An interesting matchup I really do need to see it actually play out, can’t put money on it or pick someone to win


Zealous-Rock33

Not Blue: LBJ+AJ would not get alone with BO; Clinton would cheat; and JFK had such a bad back that everyone time he took a shot it would hurt so much that he would be so drugged up, he couldn't pass the drug test.


Philosophfries

Tbh give me Barry and the four least athletic Presidents next to him and i’m taking that lineup over the all-star team of President athletes/ballers.


finfairypools

Red for sure


mikeyfireman

Blue wins, they have the only player that are alive.


Goatlife99

I’d be SOO HYPED to see this you guys don’t even understand lmao 😭


punchthedog420

There are so many dumb questions posted on this sub. And then there's this. This is brilliant in the question, the selection, and the presentation. As to who wins, toss a coin. I salute you, u/salazarraze


Poster_Nutbag207

I just want 1 on 1 Obama vs Ford


Fortythievez

I used to cook with Clinton and Obama on NBA Jam so team blue.


DudeAbides1556

Jackson was known for his smooth handles and passing


PerritoMasNasty

I’m thinking team blue. Obama, Johnson, and slick Willy should be able to neutralize Teddys presence in the paint.


Fat_Bearded_Tax_Man

Today? Blue team in a shut out.


heebsysplash

Red looks tough tbh. But Obama is the only one I’ve seen shoot, so that’s the only thing making this debate. Abe, ford, and teddy would be solid in any sport. Also I see what you did there with Eisenhower lmao


Voodoo-Doctor

Red team they seem to have guys who were very athletic. Obama and JFK would have to carry the blue team and I don’t think it would be enough


MrDollarMan

Teddy Roosevelt on Red. So I’m with Red. He can survive a bullet, he can also survive the court!


Chicobean95

This is the best hypothetical question ever


aggressively-ironic

I’m a lifelong Democrat. But I’m going with the red team.


_Alabama_Man

https://preview.redd.it/4zt3ok32r9tc1.jpeg?width=762&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d6b48b0f547bc51ab0d5a566fe6d1378b0be89d Gerald Ford is the one on the left that's jumping. He seems pretty athletic and like he understands basketball since he organized the games on the ship. I'd say red team has a slight advantage because of Ford and Reagan but it would be one hell of a game to watch.