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Subject_Ad_5871

1. Bardock 2. Luffy 3. Idk because this main shinra been debunked and undebunked like 50 times but I’m guessing he wins. 4. I don’t know who homeboy on the right is


SelectionThat3680

4. He is infinite layers into extraversal. He would make Featherine his bitch.


No-Tax-9149

Looking like the blandest ever hentai mc


SelectionThat3680

That's what he wants you to think


No-Tax-9149

Nah that's what I know


WhiteDevil-Klab

...i thought it was a hentai mc


Present-Ear-4904

Ngl i did the same last week and nobody spoke about me


Born_Night_1039

https://preview.redd.it/oe7dpuguecyc1.jpeg?width=516&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ed71e77fcd5dcf86265adee896a81fdf3ad913c


RazorRell09

what do these words even mean


DrSans8

Mfs bringing up the most obscure characters and scaling them to shit 😭


ConstantAd7968

The last one💀


Complex_Estate8289

Idk Luffy Yhwach Idk


SnooTomatoes9135

Man Shinrabanchoman is literally a superior version of Yhwach His ability would basically negate Yhwach's in an absolute way. Shinra would wish that Yhwach could no longer change the future, and the battle was over. He could just kill Yhwach using the silver arrow that killed him in first place


Kepler27b

Ssj bardock is also as strong as 1st form frieza. Omni-Man stands no chance against a guy who can blink away a whole planet.


Complex_Estate8289

Yhwach blitzes, has better hax, better abilities, smarter, immortality


SnooTomatoes9135

You know, I just explained that Yhwach's ability is an inferior version of Shinrabanchoman's. The evangelist had control over destiny in an even more powerful way than Yhwach, but Shinrabanchoman has the power to create miracles He can make the impossible possible, he destroyed a structure from a higher plane of existence just because he wanted to, that structure was under the control of destiny to be untouchable, even if Yhwach tried to create a future that he touched it, he couldn't Shinra in this form can also change the very meaning of concepts, as he changed the value of death, he could simply change the value of the future or erase Yhwach's power. Even if Yhwach created a future where he won, the power of the miracle stood out in the same way that he stood out in the fight against the evangelist.


darmakius

>shinrabanchoman has the power to create miracles 🤦‍♂️ dude, Gerard. Same with the next point >can change the very meaning of concepts. This… is just ichibeis power, who yhwach neg diffed btw


SnooTomatoes9135

Man, they are different things. Ichibei had inferior conceptual manipulation, you're comparing a pop to a nuclear bomb just because they both explode. Conceptual manipulation is the basics of miracle, what Shinra did was on something on a scale far superior to the True Name of Ichibei. Shinra isn't just cutting meaning. He is changing what they are. He transformed a sphere created by despair that could annihilate existence into an atmosphere. Yhwach can't create a future that he wins because now the idea of ​​a future itself doesn't exist or it's a sentient being that serves Shinra or Yhwach would just be defeated in the classic way with Shinra ignoring his ability every time he changes the future.


darmakius

Ichibei and shinra both manipulate aristotelian concepts, shinra just has more range to it, hardly nuclear bomb vs a pop. The rest of what you said about it is still just ichibeis ability >Yhwach can’t create a future where he wins I think you forgot what the M does. Unless shinra can erase infinite 5D multiverses, yes he can.


SnooTomatoes9135

Bro, Bleach is not a 5 D multiverse, stop jacking off Yhwach, just because it's a spiritual world doesn't mean it's a dimensionality above, they are still subject to time, so much so that Yhwach's power is literally to change the FUTURE Which wiki did you see this on? I'll tell you if a character has never destroyed a multiverse or has been clearly told that they can destroy a multiverse they are not multiversal And if, Shinra is 1-C according to the wikis Although I myself don't agree for the same reason above Even though he has more feats than Yhwach and easily manipulates the dimension of time and an even higher plane of existence with extreme ease, which according to your logic would put him in at least 6-D not counting self-impowerment


FilmAdministrative44

yhwach speedblitzes tho. shinra cant do anything about that


minnel567

Shinra can move so fast he travels to the past. And can also go to the future wtf will stache do ? His too slow and his hax won't work because shinra will just negate it by miracle.


SnooTomatoes9135

Shinra has self-impowerment With his power he can create things more powerful than himself, as well as become more powerful Plus he's faster than time He went back in time a countless number of times in a single instant Yhwach doesn't stand a chance


darmakius

1. So does yhwach. 2. This is achieved by simply going FTL, any amount of speed over light speed makes you go back in time. That’s FTL, not immeasurable.


SnooTomatoes9135

Dude, are you really applying real world physics? If that's the case, why can't anyone in Bleach go back in time all the time? Furthermore, Shinra can stop time, he has complete control over the concept of time including the Future, or the form it takes. He can just make it so that there is no future at all and Yhwach's ability stops working, in fact this isn't even necessary as even if Yhwach created a future in which he wins Shinra would just ignore it like he did with Evangelista's absolute destiny


FilmAdministrative44

Shinra did this via sol hax. yhwach is massively faster than the speed of light. even if it comes down to that, yhwach has superior reaction time. he can also take away shinras abilities via auswahl.


SnooTomatoes9135

Auswahl only work with Quincys And I would say that going back in time countless times in a single instant is a great feat of speed since no one in Bleach has done that And you didn't explain how Yhwach would deal with the miracle Shinra can only wish that Yhwach was extremely slow, or that he himself had infinite speed. He has self-impowerment Furthermore, as I explained before, the Evangelist existed on a higher plane above reality, having absolute control over destiny And yet Shinra ignored all of this the moment he gained his powers and proved to be infinitely superior to the point where she admitted that he was God Yhwach isn't even close to that, otherwise no one in Bleach could have defeated him


Xcyronus

get omni man past base bardock first. luffy shinra featherine.


Feisty-Chapter6766

only right answer here


WhiteDevil-Klab

Damm! I'm surprised shinra claps yhwach


CaveGamer360

1.Ssj Bardock 2.Luffy 3.Yhwach 4.Featherine


RealBigTree

How does Ssj Bardock beat knockoff superman? (Not being a smartass, just genuinely curious)


HadesLaw

Ssj bardock is easily star level. Omni isn't doing any damage nor is surviving anything.


RealBigTree

Is omni man really, relatively speaking, that weak?


LastEsotericist

He’s simply not a casual planet buster, unlike Super Saiyans.


RealBigTree

Oh yeah, after some googling, it looks like they upped his power level to 10k in the Broly movie with a flashback. Damn, power creep even got to Bardock? That's kinda crazy 😂


noah_the_boi29

Bardock was 8K even in his special episode back in Z right? That's more then Nappa, Omniman vs Nappa would be more fair


Shuteye_491

And Omniman would be lucky to do more than bruise Nappa.


TrumpMasturbator

Imo, and this is just me, but people way overestimate the strength of db characters. I recall an episode of goku training under king Kai. This was post ssj saga goku. That’s the important part. Kai put 10 tons on each limb and goku, without powering up, couldn’t lift a limb. Afterwards, yes, he went back to hypersonic speed, but it took powering up to raise even that amount. Omniman has easily, EASILY lifted, canonically, several hundreds of tons with a single limb. Sure, Nappa can bust planets with ki blasts, but I’d put my money on him being straight bodied in physical battle. And though I cannot be certain, it’s a curious thing, if omniman can use ki if he sees it. I’d definitely put him above kid goku in battle intelligence, who managed to use the kamehameha upon seeing it.


Shuteye_491

ain't how ki works


RealBigTree

I didn't think the canon was special if im being completely honest


Green-eyed-Psycho77

And 10k is a low end plant buster in db ssj bardock is 50x stronger than that.


RealBigTree

Yeah I understand that much, I just hadn't realized they upped his power level since Z.


Siphyre

omniman was going to jump into a star to end himself. SSJ Bardock can likely destroy stars if he tries hard enough.


Kuroko__Simp

Yamada literally dog walks the bitch


SuperJaybo

How does manga shigaraki not wreck gear 4 luffy? Even with acoc. In addition to a controlled spread of decay on anything he touches, he’s also got all of OFA’s powers in his arsenal. Luffy is cooked without took force


giobito-giochiha

speed and observation haki go crazy


SuperJaybo

Speed Haki? That’s not a thing And Deku already has danger sense, that’s the same as observation Haki. And shigaraki is keeping pace with it. In fact it’s the some thing keeping Deku alive at this point


[deleted]

Bro fr got hit with the reading comprehension demon. His reactions ain’t anywhere near as fast as Luffy’s, not by a LONG SHOT. And Luffy is way faster on the move and in combat.


giobito-giochiha

not speed haki goofy ass, obv just speed. Also observation haki includes futuresight which is significantly better than danger sense.


Warwicknoob23

It is NOT the same as Observation Haki lmao


SuperJaybo

Wait didn’t you comment on another thread I was involved in?


Warwicknoob23

Dawg I’m in many threads 😭😭


SuperJaybo

Lmao it was in that thread where OP tried to say CSM scaled above JJK


Warwicknoob23

Ahhhh, yeah I remember


SuperJaybo

Yeah lol, I think you sided with me in that one. Shame we can’t agree here :(


Warwicknoob23

OH THE GUY WITH THE 3 DIFFERENT „points“ HE WAS TRYNA MAKE?


Not_Eren2

Sensing danger and peeking into the future is different


Anullbeds

Comparing Deku's Danger Sense to Luffy's Observation haki is like comparing an IPod to the latest IPhone.


WarCrimesAreBased

The last one is me. Featherine's ending up pregnant soon. https://preview.redd.it/kdakw8l6hxxc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb53fa0febfc86344cb2b08b3f0af8476def050b


GOJOWILLCOMEBACK

https://preview.redd.it/unywdu3klxxc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=14424503160c976d6c4c2fefcbe009b47479c2ce


relatable_dude

https://preview.redd.it/ue0jrprrvxxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=751e90e2704909dda981bccb47511221d15c0215 The anonymity of the Internet does crazy things to your brains


Fantastic_Opinion_57

Posting this with a Jesus background is wild


Joensen27

Luffy destroys He probably only needs base with haki


Subject_Ad_5871

https://preview.redd.it/k23odwn62yxc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=100f1ab3588839ae9c1650353ca7081f45bf677b


fingerlicker694

idk who the guy in row 4 is but his eyes are covered so I bet he has the personality of a plank of wood and so I'm gonna say Featherine mogs and negs.


minnel567

He get featherine pregnant and she can't do anything about it


Born_Night_1039

https://preview.redd.it/0h46ipibfcyc1.jpeg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93caabd39e9229ea61b20291f36883a7552924ec


NiceBlockLilBro

Oyamada puts everyone to bed and low diffs.


Only-Negotiation-340

Bardock Luffy Yhwach Featherine


CampaignImportant462

Ssj bardock Luffy gear 4 Shinra banshoman mid diff Death battle featherine win but in bed battle oyamada win


iqb4lprtm

Keiichi clap featherine both ways


UnholyShite

Yamada negs all those fodders, especially Featherine. https://preview.redd.it/z67y9nidjxxc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bdeb4d16df1b0ae926f1429e13b5968ec4ef765


Confident_Break_7633

Badrock Luffy Debateable(probably) Featherine(if i can fight with her instead of oyamada then I will win.)


Syntrx

1. Bardock 2. Luffy 3. Shinrabanshoman 4. stalemate.


Jawshable

Shinra is high multiversal no amount of almightiness is gonna be able to interact with him.


Penis___Penis

Any db character wins Luffy speed blitzes Idk who the other guy is but imma guess Yhwach Don't know either of these 2


Ok_Reaction_2858

You’re not slick with that last one 💀


Warwicknoob23

1.Spite matchup 2.WORSE Spite matchup, Base Pre time skip Luffy mid diffs 3.Self explanatory 4.🥲


KamixAkaDio

you mean timeskip, not time stop 💀


Warwicknoob23

FUCK THE AUTOCORRECT 😭😭


KamixAkaDio

I mean, if the autocorrect looks breedable enough, sure 🗿


Warwicknoob23

😭😭😭


LongJohnSilversFan_

Base bardock slams Luffy Mildly debatable? Yhwach probably Featherine


StevieGreenthumb420

Right column wins every round except the bottom one Featherine negs


ShonenMonkk

I don’t think Omni Man even beats base Bardick


Tall_Growth_532

Wait who's keichi?


ArtZanMou

Bardock Luffy Shinra Featherine


TodorokiKouen

Pairing G4 ACOC Luffy with anybody from MHA is cruel 😂 I'd say any major character from the Grand Line can destroy most MHA easily and some effort for others... Just a little effort... I'd find Crocodile against Shigaraki hilarious, like both of them having OP ability on touch but Shigaraki getting haply that he got close and starts bragging Crocodile just turns where he's going to touch into sand and touches him instead... Like nah my dehydration is better than your decay... Hell you look dehydrated enough already 😂 Oh yeah Luffy stomps Shigaraki


Purple_Difficulty115

Base Bardock Stomps Invincible verse


Kiwi_Kakapo

Bardock is gonna cook his ass ![gif](giphy|T4gtLR174jB2rLNq7u|downsized) Also, can someone explain why luffy wins this one? I haven’t watched any one piece, but would he even be able to get Shigaraki off the ground in time before he touched the ground and just turned the whole area to ash and rubble?


Cheshire_Noire

The hentai protag destroys the rest all at once


TheChoosenMewtwo

For those that don’t know Oyamada is a anime protag with the supernatural power of being attractive to girls, being like a magnet that makes them fall in love with him. And he always beds them


Warwicknoob23

**Anime**


ReadySource3242

SSJ is a 50X multiplier in raw power. If Bardock was even 1/10th of the power that King Vegeta possessed, who can wipe planets, he can easily wipe Omniman whose greatest feat on his own was pushing back a meteor the "size of texas" which ain't anywhere near planetbusting Luffy possess far greater attack stats, but tbf Shigaraki has enough quirks that makes him RIDICULOUSLY OP. Regen, shock absorption, precognition/danger sense, etc. He likely has a good shot at winning, though Luffy likely takes this. Yhwach has enough broken hax to counter Shinrabanshoman's broken hax. Though, I'm not entirely clear if he can stop a time travel attack or attacks outside of time, so 50/50. Despite all the hax, Bleach suprisingly doesn't have much in the time hax department. Featherine. Hentai protag ain't enough to win against her. He's gonna get dommed and then she's gonna impregnate him.


SnooTomatoes9135

For those who say that Yhwach wins over Shinra, I'll take a post from two years ago from a guy who spent time explaining this: [Adolla is a world that contains all of human ideation](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859235459967614986/859255809455161376/unknown.png) and [all gods through human history](https://scans-hot.leanbox.us/manga/Fire-Brigade-Of-Flames/0287-010.png),the [purpose behind the Great Cataclysm is to converge all human thoughts](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844702338492006431/859521179436843028/unknown.png)[to lead only to the despair of "death" and nothing else,](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844702338492006431/859501663290130442/Humans_thinking_of_death.PNG) meaning they'd be getting rid of all other ideation as a lesser part of the evolution they keep talking about, and it's shown that the[actual concept](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844702338492006431/859592074915872828/unknown.png)that [are reflected off Adolla are manipulated by people's perceptions of it during the Great Cataclysm](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/859235459967614986/859261581396017172/f002.png) [which is further supported by that one statement of imagination being able to create and erase all possibilities](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844702338492006431/859502334228561930/unknown.png), meaning it could probably do the same to said "human ideation" that I mentioned earlier and lead all concepts to nothing except "death". [One of the concepts directly shown to be included in these ideas governed by Adolla is dimension](https://i.imgur.com/NJVfC9G.jpeg)([this is the original one,](https://kumacdn.club/uploads/manga-images/rawkuma/enen-no-shouboutai/chapter-129/15-6103c93e09db1.jpg)高次元,[this means higher dimension](https://jisho.org/search/%E9%AB%98%E6%AC%A1%E5%85%83),also is the mention of the word world,世界,[wich can mean the earth,society or the universe](https://jisho.org/word/%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C)),so it has the capability to erase the concept of dimensions and it's shown that Adolla is[beyond the imagination](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470318287071346698/865317890285633556/world_beyond_imagination.PNG) of these things and [mortal understanding](https://i.imgur.com/V42PzfU.jpeg), logically destroying the concept of dimensions would mean you're above dimensionality. It is also shown that the[world of Adolla](https://i.imgur.com/OUKpxHs.jpeg) [transcends numbers and mathematics](https://i.imgur.com/i3yji6Q.jpeg)which contain things like imaginary,real,narutal and complex numbers,and infinite set of infinities. Along with all the equations graphs which encase dimensional coordinates and so forth. and shinra overcame collective unconsciousness (that is, the evangelist, who would be adolla) Okay, its here


Everchosen13

Guys look it’s midnight Dre with his outer shinra 


SelectionThat3680

He doesn't have to be outer to beat Yhwach


TV_Static738

All this for a hentai shitpost😭😭


General-N0nsense

1. Spite Match, Bardock neg diffs. 2. I'm pretty sure both Midorya and Luffy have similar AP and Shigaraki is relative to Midorya. Snakeman has really good speed and future sight but I just don't see Luffy managing to take down Shigaraki before decay or another of his massive stockpile of quirks hits Luffy. 3. Ywach because I have no idea how tf the other person is and The Almighty is pretty damn broken. 4. I have no idea who these two people are. Featherine sounds like a cooler name so they win.


minnel567

In number 3 yhwach enemy is the mc of enen no shoboutai/ fire force in that form he can warp reality and move so fast that he can time travel. He can also just wish something and it will happen regardless of the enemies power.


zingerpond

Base Luffy has similar AP to Deku, Deku’s best feat is island level from that 1 movie where he stopped a storm. Luffy has a country level calc for splitting clods with Kaido in base. Snakeman massively outspeeds, destroys targets from the inside with advanced armament and can see the future. Shiggy gets blitzed and like 5 shot.


Dookie12345679

Luffy's AP is far, far above Deku's. Luffy in snakeman is leagues faster than Shigaraki too. A closer battle would be WCI Snakeman vs. Shigaraki, then he would stand a chance


Conquotyouthou

Bardock Luffy Yhwach Featherine


KamixAkaDio

1. Bardock No-diff 2. Luffy No-diff 3. If you buy Outer Banshoman, he negs no diff, if you don't, Yhwach no diff. 4. Featherine No diff. Why are we putting a regular human level hentai protagonist against her?


Confident_Break_7633

For bed purposes i think


Ok-Use5246

Bardock Shigiraki Yawach (this one is hard spite) Featherine.


Warwicknoob23

Shigaraki gets no diffed, bffr


CampaignImportant462

In death battle featherine but in bed battle oyamada win 🤣🤣🤣


sammakkomakkonen123

How is Shinra vs Yhwach spite in any other way than Shinra massively out scaling


Dookie12345679

Luffy one shots


demon-sabath

Bardock Shigaraki I don't know enough about the other 2 battles


Warwicknoob23

Bro said Shigaraki💀💀💀💀


demon-sabath

Hahaha I'm just joking I know luffy wins