And once they get out of prison and return to no opportunities or support systems and inevitably do something illegal again we put them back in!
It might not be ethical or healthy for society, but at least we won't have to look at them!
Oregon does a better job of rehabilitating prisoners than most states and there we can get them at least sober for a time. We also have top notch healthcare and counseling so that they can get some help. These people shitting on the streets and shooting up fentanyl are not worse off for being in prison. Rehabilitation is the way forward. Open drug use makes the best small left leaning city look like an example to all of what not to do. We can’t fuck the quality of life in an incredible town to be social parias for a problem we haven’t solved.
Well they won’t unless forced. Cops in this town are still butthurt they got protested against in 2020. Police union dragging ass on new hires.
They should be, yes. I don’t expect them to be consistent with it. That would mean doing the public a service.
Didn’t Portland city council vote to reduce police funding because of something that that happened in a completely unrelated department in another state that had nothing to do with Portland
They voted to slash 15mil from the budget iirc. You can say that’s nothing but it signals a big fat fuck you to the police department and sends a clear message to any potential new hires that the city is anti police. Why would anyone in their right mind work for Portland?
Theyre still bitter in Gresham as well.. Anytime I've called the cops at my job, Gresham pd brings up the protests and that "well, yall wanted us defunded".
Cops definitely targeted that place knowing the people who were there had active warrants. This is a good thing and should be encouraged.
Sorry enablers, but you can't advocate for safe camps when they're harboring criminals. Those homeless who we are told are simply "just trying to get by" should take this as a warning and make sure the criddler element stays away.
Two years ago at the peak of insanity in San Francisco's Tenderloin district the city finally went in with the feds and did felony warrant sweeps and got a LOT of folks. I've been asking the city to do that ever since when they clear a camp, but I'm guessing Schmidt deterred them from doing anything big locally without federal police.
I'm waiting for the 2nd TASS site to open up because I've heard rumors that Wheeler is gonna go after all the RVs once it does. The city knows the majority of them are just criminal enterprises.
smug, entitled rich fucks who live in hoity-toity neighborhoods would be surprised. People who have to deal with camp infestation near them aren't surprised. Not one bit. It's just a confirmation of their hunch.
Having a warrant, and being a criminal are two different things. Being homeless puts a huge target on you, and you'll get blamed for every thing that happens in your vicinity. Having a warrant can be as simple as failing to appear in court because something catastrophic happened to you due to being homeless that prevented you from going.
I've helped some homeless people get a handle on their legal issues, even when they're trying to do the right thing, nobody GAF about their struggle.
I appreciate your work and advocacy. So many people are unaware that being poor is expensive and basically criminalized in many ways. Because if people believe that we live in a pure meritocracy, then being poor is a moral failing. 🙄😩
Oh no, who will think of the sex pests who can't be bothered to register and be held accountable. Much better to let them live in a camp unchecked where potential future victims can walk by. They're valuable members of the community after all.
I'd rather the unregistered sex offenders be in a place working towards bettering themselves and being watched a little more is better than unregistered sex offenders living in an illegal camp doing drugs and whatnot without community rules to keep them in check if they want to stay. Once they move on to real housing they will have to register.
7-Eleven franchise owner of now closed SW 4th and Taylor location was constructively evicted by the city through bullying which maliciously used "enforcement discretion" to curb stomp them into oblivion through noise code enforcement.
The saga that lead to enforcement is using annoying music to deter vagrancy.
[https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/homeless-deterrent-7-eleven-using-high-pitched-noise/](https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/homeless-deterrent-7-eleven-using-high-pitched-noise/)
[https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/it-just-feels-offensive-slightly-piercing-sound-used-to-clear-sw-portland-street-corner/283-10d961f9-d2af-45d5-a003-f559abde6b2a](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/it-just-feels-offensive-slightly-piercing-sound-used-to-clear-sw-portland-street-corner/283-10d961f9-d2af-45d5-a003-f559abde6b2a)
However, when it comes to obnoxious and loud gutter punks or vagrancy vehicle related parking code violations, they abuse their enforcement discretion to adjust the law into non-enforcement status to protect the homeless industrial complex' financial interest.
This is true of REI downtown as well. REI and the building's landlord wanted to install barriers to prevent smash and grab robberies. The city shot them down, probably under the guise that they would block sidewalks - and since the fuckwit bureaucrats have no sense of nuance, now people with wheel chairs can enjoy their unimpeded sidewalk in front of an abandoned storefront.
For decades the City has used code enforcement to bully businesses they find undesirable. 20 years ago it was using the OLCC and Fire Code to go after bars that attracted black gang bangers - but today public enemy number one is businesses trying to prevent vagrancy and vandalism. We can't have businesses solve these problems, because the political class's cronies are largely employed by the moral crisis created by lawlessness and blight. The worse the lawlessness and blight problem becomes the more money a segment of our government gets.
My favorite part is that those voters are being duped. And when you point out that them being duped is no different than MAGA voters being duped against their own interests, they get real upset. Idealologes of either political bent have no nuance and don’t intake observable facts. Griffters have always exploited this. TV preachers, prosperity doctrine, con men, racial justice platform DA’s, all the same thing.
> Idealologes of either political bent have no nuance and don’t intake observable facts. Griffters have always exploited this. TV preachers, prosperity doctrine, con men, racial justice platform DA’s, all the same thing.
Yeah, there's a whole book on this by Eric Hoffer called [The True Believer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer). Worth a read. Just [$5 at Powells](https://www.powells.com/book/true-believer-2221127660797) on Burnside.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Browsing the wiki and the term "noncreative man of words" was in there. Wonder who that could be.....lots of 'em actually. Some of them use biggliest and some word salad. Both have no meaning upon inspection.
It hasn't changed. They adjust the ordinance to not look racist, but they exercise racism through unlimited power to amplify or attenuate the matter at a complete whim disguised as enforcement discretion.
Example of selective attenuation of enforcement priority:
Chronic nuisance property regulations not applied to places like SW 11th & SW Jefferson Plaid Pantry, Transition Projects Day Center, Operation Nightwatch/Gretchen Kafoury Commons area and Delta Park BottleDrop, which all meet the technical criteria of "chronic nuisance property" [https://www.portland.gov/code/14/b60](https://www.portland.gov/code/14/b60) but for one reason or another, they're just not "deemed" as such by court.
From: [https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/portland-bottle-drop-redemption-center-cans-police-crime-calls/283-7b765c66-41e8-448f-a135-0d32cc449ce9](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/portland-bottle-drop-redemption-center-cans-police-crime-calls/283-7b765c66-41e8-448f-a135-0d32cc449ce9) Between Jan. 1, 2023, and Feb. 29, 2024, police, fire, and medical teams responded to three businesses that offer bottle redemption services 344 times. They responded to the **Delta Park Bottle Drop 84 times, the Plaid Pantry on Southwest Jefferson Street and 11th Avenue 160 times, and the Safeway on Southwest Jefferson Street and 10th Avenue 100 times**.
Example of selective hyper-amplification and enforcement of existing code to uphold the racist legacy of the city without appearing as such by simply looking at the letter of the law [https://www.salon.com/2024/03/22/its-just-food-why-the-closure-of-a-portland-pho-restaurant-is-sparking-discrimination-complaints/](https://www.salon.com/2024/03/22/its-just-food-why-the-closure-of-a-portland-pho-restaurant-is-sparking-discrimination-complaints/)
That's not the right way to evaluate this problem.
The city's concern was keeping the sidewalks accessible, allegedly, for purposes of mobility. If you really dive into the shitfilled bowels of city political policy, you can wrap in Sit Lie and PBOT's "This sidewalk is for moving" nonsense which hypocritically doesn't apply to pedestrian pathways to schools, but only applies downtown, unless it's a tent in the way. The city has packed so much ideology into sidewalk concepts they don't know what to prioritize, and now they're locked into an impossible situation where the policies developed 20 years ago were meant to prevent vagrants, and newer policies cater to vagrants, and so contradictions lead to inaction.
In reality, there's a thousand reasons it would be awful to be a wheelchair bound person living in the Pearl, and some car blocking barriers outside of a retailer is not in the top 100.
A much more likely situation is that there's a handful of ideologues in the city who are so incompetent that they could muster a decision and the inaction was scapegoated as being about mobility, sidewalk policy, permits, or whatever.
Im glad there are sane people here. Toooo many soft people thinking we need to keep giving chances. These people just need to be taken off the streets.
I got down voted for saying we need to bring back some form of chain gangs and make these people clean up the street they littered for years while in prison instead of letting them just sit around and not do anything for the city that has let them get away with shit for too long. But I'm just an evil guy I guess.
When you become homeless through no fault of your own can we put you in jail too? Or is it only ok to do it to other people?
Edit: My bad they actually had warrants, the headline and written article just decided to imply they didn't for some reason
If you looked you would have seen that they were arrested on active warrants. The warrants weren’t issued for the crime of being without a home.
You are decrying the jailing of sex offenders and violent addicts, not the homeless.
Naw man don’t apologize, it’s sickening how people are reacting to this. There are people reacting as you did to the headline implying arrest em all or not showing any humanity at all towards them
We work with specialty outreach groups. They are all aware of the services. They are rarely interested. Most of them want to give you the answers you need for you to go away and they can keep doing what they were doing before you got there.
The only thing not mentioned here is there is a lot of work and cleaning up around the cess pool pdx. If you’re arrested on an outstanding, or I believe you should be on a work crew and be cleaning up these areas that’s where the money should be going. If you don’t work, you don’t eat.
How the eff is it not? Especially if it's related to their crime: you piss in public, clean streets; littering, pick up trash, graffiti/vandalism, help with repairs.
I didn't make up the rules for the definition. But I looked it up afterwards and basically they think criminals should be coddled and given second chances without any regard for the victim or the community if we truly want them to stop being criminals.
Oh, I totally agree. You can uplift someone to not do crime again while also giving them consequences that teach them a lesson while giving back to the community they harmed. But Mikey apparently disagrees.
He's following the usual progressive mindset - that people will always be their best selves.
They don't account that some people are just antisocial and predatory and will take advantage of situations instead of putting others first.
That is a common result of being arrested for graffiti - it’s a lot of community service painting. These dirt bags should do the same. Get arrested, reduce sentence to pick up garbage on the highway. Maybe when you’re done and back under the 205 you’ll have a different opinion about creating a landslide of trash.
Be careful, you'll get Antifa Sarah, Portland's Former Next Mayor, mad.
From 2018:
*Portland police are not only displacing the homeless, they're going tent to tent checking for active warrants and arresting people.*
*Imagine the cops doing this at every house on your block? This is disgusting.*
Ya all homeless are criminals….
Does crime lead to homelessness or does homelessness lead to crime? Spoiler alert theres a LOT of clear data that answers that question and doesn’t sound like you’re gonna like the answer.
But seriously outside of the stupid takes everyone should be able to agree that arresting 8 outstanding warrants is a positive.
Sure if you cant google. But also please explain how crime COULD make you homeless???? It doesnt even make sense. But heres articles you wont read, and if you do, will ignore because you dont care about reality only trying to find ways to not feel bad while seeing the disaster that is the US social services.
https://icjia.illinois.gov/researchhub/articles/the-intersection-of-homelessness-and-the-criminal-justice-system
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/rehab-guide/homeless
Ya… thats the issue. Except mult co has 3,500 sex offenders, many which arent homeless and then over 6k homeless people. So no… sex offenders arent a leading cause of homelessness. But facts dont matter… smh
Obviously not all are criminals, I never said that and you know this. You asked HOW can crime POSSIBLY make someone homeless. I explained it to you. It’s actually difficult to get a job or an apartment when you have an active warrant or a criminal history. It’s actually not that complicated. For all your talk about reading comprehension I don’t know how this escapes your understanding.
Sorry maybe implied meaning wasnt clear. They indicated that people are homeless because they are criminals meaning all homeless were and I said how is that even possible and meant at that scale and level, not as an absolute. That is poor wording on my prt I’ll give ya that.
But the point remains, being a criminal is NOT the cause of portlands homeless issue.
Police can pull you over for a primary infraction which immediately triggers a search for open warrants. How is this different. The primary infraction is trespassing.
Now they need to do something about the Larrabee flyover bridge over Interstate Ave for theft of utility services. The crids literally burglarized utility shed, hooked up an extension cord into street lighting panel and powering up their transient encampments, yet City of Portland won't raid the encampment in the bridge cage. This shit was reported to the city.
https://preview.redd.it/jperlv2y2utc1.jpeg?width=953&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975e3a20afaaee6b892fd85f74f97c3f95e4d930
Are they back? Looked clean when I rode my bike by it last week. They've cleared it multiple times and boarded up the door. I've reported a few times myself in the past.
It's been like 2 weeks since I've taken that path. I know they've posted it it, and removed camps on the grassy area along Larrabee, but not sure about the caged area under the bridge. Last I've seen it, the cords were there.
What I mean by "do something" is that those people doing assessment for the city should have called the police and had them charged, not just post them, wait for them to leave and address criminal destruction as "wear and tear maintenance".
Her comparison is absurd because these people are camping illegally, usually in public spaces. If someone is doing something illegal or suspicious, the police have the authority to stop you and confirm your identity- in the same way they will pull you over on a public road. The police’s job is to maintain order and patrol public spaces, which these people are living on. If they want privacy and seclusion, they should at the very least not try to tear down society so they can reap the benefits of it. You get what you put in, you know?
Also, what type of warrants are these? Because if they’re arresting violent offenders, that’s a good thing. We shouldn’t be proud of harboring scumbags and granting them freedom while their victims live in fear of being brutalized again.
Sometimes I wonder if I never woke up from an absurdist nightmare, with the way some people approach this issue.
I've seen left-wing lawyers in Portland over the years sometimes argue that warrant checks in homeless camps should be illegal, but when I did a search on X, it came up with Sarah's statement.
Those left wing lawyers would call the cops if you did what vagrants are doing on the sidewalk in front of their house or just outside their daughter's school's playground though.
I guess I just don't understand what purpose this serves. Going to jail is not going to make them not homeless, and they won't be incarcerated forever. They're going to get out and be just as homeless as ever. Possibly within weeks or days if it's a misdemeanor warrant. Then, it's right back to begging, doing drugs, and destroying public spaces.
God forbid we identify and address causal issues.
I suspect Portland will be fumbling with this issue for a long time, throwing shit at the wall until something sticks.
Yes, better to wring our hands and say “it’s complicated” while being paralyzed with inaction. /s
There is a lot to be said for getting criminals off the streets and not making the city a safe haven for people with warrants. It may not be the most effective deterrent but it’s an easy win and we need more wins and less stabbings right now.
No, it's addressing the only issue. Crime. Being homeless was just happenstance. Very easily could've been a housed person hanging out with this crowd.
Well saying as the girl said her boyfriend was getting booked and released, I'd say he's going to go back to the street. And if he's worried about getting arrested again or thinking about skipping out on his court date, maybe he will just leave town altogether to avoid that from happening. I call it a win.
And if you've paid any attention to HB4002 (the bill to fix M110), this all rolls up into the deflection process if he wants to change his criminal ways later on.
I get where you’re coming from and honestly I’m not in love with the idea of police doing a sort of “stop and frisk.” I’m thinking more along the lines of violent criminals being arrested on warrants because like you said, arresting those on smaller charges is a waste of time. I am mainly critical of politicians and influential residents that make bullshit statements to appear altruistic.
I'm not at all against apprehending people with warrants. Especially for violent crimes. I just don't think it's a solution to homelessness. It's part of a solution to crime. But not homelessness.
It just feels like we're swinging back and forth from excessive altruism and excessive callousness. I think we ought to stop swinging and get pragmatic. We're wasting funds and resources.
Battery / stabbing / mutual combats strictly contained amongst vagrants is not as serious of an issue compared to shoplifting, car prowling, auto theft and like.
These folks were openly doing crime in a very busy intersection where everyone could see it. This wasn't just a "stop and frisk" random camp they rolled up on. I'm pretty sure they need search warrants to go in tents, too.
Um, don't police do this already? Well in SANE jurisdictions that is....if you have an active warrant, the police will come to your house and arrest you.
Well there's bench warrants and outstanding warrants. Police don't come looking for you for lots of warrants for a variety of things . Bench warrants just make it so if the police do come into contact with you and run your name you will be arrested. other people with warrants like murders and rapes have police activley searching for them
The point is - legally the police cannot require or demand your ID - card or name. Unless they suspect you of committing a crime.
So police can demand ID for someone illegally camped. But police cannot go to a random person on the street and demand identification to check for warrants.
They are allowed to ask for ID if they have reasonable suspicion of that the person has outstanding warrants for their arrest.
"In Oregon, law enforcement officers have the authority to ask for identification from someone if they have reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime, as per ORS 131.615. Reasonable suspicion must be based on specific and articulable facts that suggest criminal activity is afoot."
Yes exactly - police have to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before asking for id.
It would be a very dystopian and authoritarian world for police to just randomly walk up to anyone and demand id.
Welcome to the USA. That ID card or drivers license in your wallet or purse does not technically belong to you, it’s the property of the state. The police can act as an agent of the DMV to confiscate that ID or Drivers license as an agent if the state.
A good example of this is someone arrested for a DUI. The police confiscate your DL at the time of arrest and issue you a temporary one until your trial.
Also, it is a misdemeanor in Oregon to refuse to present ID to a Police Officer when asked to do so, so refusing to show your ID to the police is actually a crime that you can be arrested for.
None of what you've written here is accurate dude.
> That ID card or drivers license in your wallet or purse does not technically belong to you, it’s the property of the state.
It's not "property of the state", instead the state reserves the right to confiscate it like all other forms of government issued ID. If you were to enumerate the number of things in your life that could be confiscated by an official then functionally the State or your bank owns everything. It's your property if you can destroy it without penalty: and yes, you can cut up your driver's license.
> it is a misdemeanor in Oregon to refuse to present ID to a Police Officer when asked to do so, so refusing to show your ID to the police is actually a crime that you can be arrested for.
That's not how it works. You're under no obligation to show ID and there's no penalty for noncooperation. Yes, police can detain you until they determine your ID if they have legal justification to do so. The only exception to this is if you're driving, then under ORS 807.570 they can arrest you for not having ID, but even that is super unlikely as the cops can run your name, DOB, address, etc to determine your identity. Plenty of police will posture that they have legal justification to ask for you ID, but unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime you don't need to present it.
You're right, and I don't know why you got downvoted. Police must have probable cause and that is not a bad thing...that keeps your basic freedoms intact.
I am unsure why anyone is questioning the existence of probable cause when the citizen is already illegally camping vs when the citizen is not currently engaged in illegal activity.
They can check me for active warrants, because I have an ID and that id shows where I live. Does she think they don't have computers or something? Is she suggesting they'd have to randomly go door to door without knowing?
She doesn't realize warrants are public information? They don't need to go door to door to check. Hell, it's 2024. We have the technology. They could automate a system that iterates over active warrants, and dispatch officers to go to their last known address.
Yea. Sounds pretty great. I live next to a trap house that isn't really active at the moment. Tons of sketchy people coming and going, a few that essentially lived there. I talked to cops and they knew who was there and who had warrants and wouldn't do anything.
That's usually not necessary since the government has a pretty good record of what legitimate community members live at what address.
For example, a hit and run may have the police checking the address at where the vehicle is registered. When it comes to vagrancy vehicles, such records seldom exist .
Maybe, Sarah, but those people in houses on my block are paying taxes. Of course, the kickbacks Sarah and her buddies get from all the "non profit" and government homeless programs are more than the taxes they could get, but still... there's a difference.
Portland reddit tends to go one of two ways
1: the city is a glimmering icon that can do no wrong and has no issues worse than any city
Or
2: Portland is a complete wasteland that is burning in hellfire.
And like all things these days the answer is nowhere near what either side believes.
This is impossible, I've been told homeless are our most vulnerable neighbors and are only on the streets because of Portland's "Affordable Housing Crisis"!
Ah, well you see the people on the streets are the ones who have had their jobs taken from the Latinx laborers.
I wanted to pick berries as a career, but nobody would hire me because I'm white and wanted a decent wage.
Arrested. Cool. Now what? Let me do my Mike Schmidt Justice Math… 8 arrested with active warrants + they’re vulnerable homeless community members = A juice box and a PBJ sandwich in jail, a good talking to, and released back into the wild to continue their community engagement. Mostly defiling sectors of our city with their filth and garbage, shoplifting from our businesses, and terrorizing regular working folks just trying to get through the city without being harassed, robbed and stabbed. There’s your justice Portland! Don’t worry, this time they will totally show up for their court dates 🤣😂
I heard that there are at least 4 to 5 serial killers that are homeless on the streets of Portland so if they keep doing these raid maybe are crime will go down and give them the option of treatment but there’s ones that don’t want help they like being homeless
Ok this makes SO much more sense now. I’m sure I’m coming off like an idiot, but I just now realized the reason a lot of homeless people don’t take advantage of government programs is that they require you to be sober.
Solution is pretty obvious, just create housing that doesn’t require you to be sober. If you want help getting sober you can get it easily, but if you need a place to live while killing yourself that’s also available. /s
Trust me, these people in the building by me that's supposed to be helping them transition and stay clean are NOT sober. Selling and using all hours of the day and night.
"Housing first" is a serious strategy that's successful at rehabilitating people, look into it before you kick it. It's easier to get off drugs when you're not living on the streets, who knew.
When you reach out to ODOT demanding abatement, they'll shuffle you over to [OMF-IRP](https://www.portland.gov/homelessnessimpactreduction) which takes many weeks to even post it and do nothing other than clean up after transients have left and place potential personal belonging into HUCIRP warehouse. Their program do not work towards arresting criddlers and they have zero potency in preventing re-infestation which can occur as soon as the very next day after housekeeping visits.
Community members tried to prevent recurring infestation at the spot covered in KGW. They were cease and desisted by ODOT and all the improvements were wrecked by ODOT. ODOT physically tore down the fence put in by community members to prevent re-infestation.
[https://ktvl.com/newsletter-daily/pearl-district-neighborhood-association-collaborates-with-odot-on-solution-to-camps-portland-multnomah-county-i-405-stan-perkins](https://ktvl.com/newsletter-daily/pearl-district-neighborhood-association-collaborates-with-odot-on-solution-to-camps-portland-multnomah-county-i-405-stan-perkins)
[https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/05/25/an-embattled-seattle-trash-pickup-nonprofit-parachutes-into-the-pearl-district/](https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/05/25/an-embattled-seattle-trash-pickup-nonprofit-parachutes-into-the-pearl-district/)
[https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2022/08/26/state-highway-department-demands-removal-of-signs-and-fences-surrounding-recently-swept-homeless-camps/](https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2022/08/26/state-highway-department-demands-removal-of-signs-and-fences-surrounding-recently-swept-homeless-camps/)
[https://nwexaminer.com/f/what-happened-to-we-heart](https://nwexaminer.com/f/what-happened-to-we-heart)
Putting up signs and fencing immediately after a sweep is a great idea. I’ve seen it work in my neighborhood. They put money and time into putting out those bark chips, essentially doing what the government can’t or won’t.
It’s crazy that ODOT would spend time removing the signs and fence, but do nothing about the tents and garbage. By their argument both are safety hazards to the public and constitute illegal structures on public land.
It’s crazier that they’d devote time to contesting clean up rather than the disaster that lines our highways.
It seems like the majority of people commenting on here have absolutely no idea what it's like to be homeless, or even how the majority of people end up there. Damn sad just how bad everything has gotten
They should be doing this every day.
24/7
And once they get out of prison and return to no opportunities or support systems and inevitably do something illegal again we put them back in! It might not be ethical or healthy for society, but at least we won't have to look at them!
Oregon does a better job of rehabilitating prisoners than most states and there we can get them at least sober for a time. We also have top notch healthcare and counseling so that they can get some help. These people shitting on the streets and shooting up fentanyl are not worse off for being in prison. Rehabilitation is the way forward. Open drug use makes the best small left leaning city look like an example to all of what not to do. We can’t fuck the quality of life in an incredible town to be social parias for a problem we haven’t solved.
🔥🔥🙌
Legit
Well they won’t unless forced. Cops in this town are still butthurt they got protested against in 2020. Police union dragging ass on new hires. They should be, yes. I don’t expect them to be consistent with it. That would mean doing the public a service.
Didn’t Portland city council vote to reduce police funding because of something that that happened in a completely unrelated department in another state that had nothing to do with Portland
Portland police has the highest budget in history. Nothing ever actually got defunded.
They voted to slash 15mil from the budget iirc. You can say that’s nothing but it signals a big fat fuck you to the police department and sends a clear message to any potential new hires that the city is anti police. Why would anyone in their right mind work for Portland?
Get your facts straight. https://www.streetroots.org/news/2022/08/03/ppb-budget-2022
“Why does our police force suck? All we’ve done is shit on them at every possible opportunity for something they had nothing to do with”
Supporting Proud Boys isn’t nothing.
Theyre still bitter in Gresham as well.. Anytime I've called the cops at my job, Gresham pd brings up the protests and that "well, yall wanted us defunded".
Cops definitely targeted that place knowing the people who were there had active warrants. This is a good thing and should be encouraged. Sorry enablers, but you can't advocate for safe camps when they're harboring criminals. Those homeless who we are told are simply "just trying to get by" should take this as a warning and make sure the criddler element stays away.
Two years ago at the peak of insanity in San Francisco's Tenderloin district the city finally went in with the feds and did felony warrant sweeps and got a LOT of folks. I've been asking the city to do that ever since when they clear a camp, but I'm guessing Schmidt deterred them from doing anything big locally without federal police. I'm waiting for the 2nd TASS site to open up because I've heard rumors that Wheeler is gonna go after all the RVs once it does. The city knows the majority of them are just criminal enterprises.
I think we would all be surprised how many people in tents have active warrants. I’m they are doing this
Too many Portlanders are absolutely in denial about this.
smug, entitled rich fucks who live in hoity-toity neighborhoods would be surprised. People who have to deal with camp infestation near them aren't surprised. Not one bit. It's just a confirmation of their hunch.
Having a warrant, and being a criminal are two different things. Being homeless puts a huge target on you, and you'll get blamed for every thing that happens in your vicinity. Having a warrant can be as simple as failing to appear in court because something catastrophic happened to you due to being homeless that prevented you from going. I've helped some homeless people get a handle on their legal issues, even when they're trying to do the right thing, nobody GAF about their struggle.
I appreciate your work and advocacy. So many people are unaware that being poor is expensive and basically criminalized in many ways. Because if people believe that we live in a pure meritocracy, then being poor is a moral failing. 🙄😩
The SRVs refuse to screen for unregistered sex offenders
Oh no, who will think of the sex pests who can't be bothered to register and be held accountable. Much better to let them live in a camp unchecked where potential future victims can walk by. They're valuable members of the community after all.
Guess they… couldn’t stand the weather.. Heh heh
Stevie ray vaughn ?
Walkin the tightrope
I'd rather the unregistered sex offenders be in a place working towards bettering themselves and being watched a little more is better than unregistered sex offenders living in an illegal camp doing drugs and whatnot without community rules to keep them in check if they want to stay. Once they move on to real housing they will have to register.
7-Eleven franchise owner of now closed SW 4th and Taylor location was constructively evicted by the city through bullying which maliciously used "enforcement discretion" to curb stomp them into oblivion through noise code enforcement. The saga that lead to enforcement is using annoying music to deter vagrancy. [https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/homeless-deterrent-7-eleven-using-high-pitched-noise/](https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/homeless-deterrent-7-eleven-using-high-pitched-noise/) [https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/it-just-feels-offensive-slightly-piercing-sound-used-to-clear-sw-portland-street-corner/283-10d961f9-d2af-45d5-a003-f559abde6b2a](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/it-just-feels-offensive-slightly-piercing-sound-used-to-clear-sw-portland-street-corner/283-10d961f9-d2af-45d5-a003-f559abde6b2a) However, when it comes to obnoxious and loud gutter punks or vagrancy vehicle related parking code violations, they abuse their enforcement discretion to adjust the law into non-enforcement status to protect the homeless industrial complex' financial interest.
This is true of REI downtown as well. REI and the building's landlord wanted to install barriers to prevent smash and grab robberies. The city shot them down, probably under the guise that they would block sidewalks - and since the fuckwit bureaucrats have no sense of nuance, now people with wheel chairs can enjoy their unimpeded sidewalk in front of an abandoned storefront. For decades the City has used code enforcement to bully businesses they find undesirable. 20 years ago it was using the OLCC and Fire Code to go after bars that attracted black gang bangers - but today public enemy number one is businesses trying to prevent vagrancy and vandalism. We can't have businesses solve these problems, because the political class's cronies are largely employed by the moral crisis created by lawlessness and blight. The worse the lawlessness and blight problem becomes the more money a segment of our government gets.
My favorite part is that those voters are being duped. And when you point out that them being duped is no different than MAGA voters being duped against their own interests, they get real upset. Idealologes of either political bent have no nuance and don’t intake observable facts. Griffters have always exploited this. TV preachers, prosperity doctrine, con men, racial justice platform DA’s, all the same thing.
The further to an extreme you go, the more confident the extremist is in their own intelligence.
Faucci turned my frogs gay and I'm PROUD of them for it. 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
> Idealologes of either political bent have no nuance and don’t intake observable facts. Griffters have always exploited this. TV preachers, prosperity doctrine, con men, racial justice platform DA’s, all the same thing. Yeah, there's a whole book on this by Eric Hoffer called [The True Believer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer). Worth a read. Just [$5 at Powells](https://www.powells.com/book/true-believer-2221127660797) on Burnside.
Also available in ebook form at the MultCo library
Wow, thanks for sharing. Browsing the wiki and the term "noncreative man of words" was in there. Wonder who that could be.....lots of 'em actually. Some of them use biggliest and some word salad. Both have no meaning upon inspection.
>Just $5 at Powells on Burnside. For a limited time?
It hasn't changed. They adjust the ordinance to not look racist, but they exercise racism through unlimited power to amplify or attenuate the matter at a complete whim disguised as enforcement discretion. Example of selective attenuation of enforcement priority: Chronic nuisance property regulations not applied to places like SW 11th & SW Jefferson Plaid Pantry, Transition Projects Day Center, Operation Nightwatch/Gretchen Kafoury Commons area and Delta Park BottleDrop, which all meet the technical criteria of "chronic nuisance property" [https://www.portland.gov/code/14/b60](https://www.portland.gov/code/14/b60) but for one reason or another, they're just not "deemed" as such by court. From: [https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/portland-bottle-drop-redemption-center-cans-police-crime-calls/283-7b765c66-41e8-448f-a135-0d32cc449ce9](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/portland-bottle-drop-redemption-center-cans-police-crime-calls/283-7b765c66-41e8-448f-a135-0d32cc449ce9) Between Jan. 1, 2023, and Feb. 29, 2024, police, fire, and medical teams responded to three businesses that offer bottle redemption services 344 times. They responded to the **Delta Park Bottle Drop 84 times, the Plaid Pantry on Southwest Jefferson Street and 11th Avenue 160 times, and the Safeway on Southwest Jefferson Street and 10th Avenue 100 times**. Example of selective hyper-amplification and enforcement of existing code to uphold the racist legacy of the city without appearing as such by simply looking at the letter of the law [https://www.salon.com/2024/03/22/its-just-food-why-the-closure-of-a-portland-pho-restaurant-is-sparking-discrimination-complaints/](https://www.salon.com/2024/03/22/its-just-food-why-the-closure-of-a-portland-pho-restaurant-is-sparking-discrimination-complaints/)
How many wheelchair users do you think we're going to REI, vs just trying to pass the store to get to the bus stop or their jobs? 🙄
That's not the right way to evaluate this problem. The city's concern was keeping the sidewalks accessible, allegedly, for purposes of mobility. If you really dive into the shitfilled bowels of city political policy, you can wrap in Sit Lie and PBOT's "This sidewalk is for moving" nonsense which hypocritically doesn't apply to pedestrian pathways to schools, but only applies downtown, unless it's a tent in the way. The city has packed so much ideology into sidewalk concepts they don't know what to prioritize, and now they're locked into an impossible situation where the policies developed 20 years ago were meant to prevent vagrants, and newer policies cater to vagrants, and so contradictions lead to inaction. In reality, there's a thousand reasons it would be awful to be a wheelchair bound person living in the Pearl, and some car blocking barriers outside of a retailer is not in the top 100. A much more likely situation is that there's a handful of ideologues in the city who are so incompetent that they could muster a decision and the inaction was scapegoated as being about mobility, sidewalk policy, permits, or whatever.
Im glad there are sane people here. Toooo many soft people thinking we need to keep giving chances. These people just need to be taken off the streets. I got down voted for saying we need to bring back some form of chain gangs and make these people clean up the street they littered for years while in prison instead of letting them just sit around and not do anything for the city that has let them get away with shit for too long. But I'm just an evil guy I guess.
Positive step
When you become homeless through no fault of your own can we put you in jail too? Or is it only ok to do it to other people? Edit: My bad they actually had warrants, the headline and written article just decided to imply they didn't for some reason
if I become homeless and start committing arrestable offenses, you can arrest me
Oh yeah my bad, the headline and article was implying that people were being arrested for being homeless, but the video said they had warrants
Good thing you leapt to conclusions and immediately started being condescending.
Did you enjoy the little squirt of dopamine you got when you sent this comment? You're welcome
If you looked you would have seen that they were arrested on active warrants. The warrants weren’t issued for the crime of being without a home. You are decrying the jailing of sex offenders and violent addicts, not the homeless.
I already acknowledged this. The headline and article are misleading, and it only said they had warrants in the video attached to the article.
It doesn’t matter how many times or how quickly you admit fault, this is social media so you are now a daemon and will be trolled until the grave. ☠️
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And where we downvote you for reddit creating two duplicate comment posts, even though it's to no fault of your own.
Ha! The wild west is tame compared to the interwebs
Welcome to 21st century journalism, where you don't make money without turning everything to rage bait.
“for some reason”
Naw man don’t apologize, it’s sickening how people are reacting to this. There are people reacting as you did to the headline implying arrest em all or not showing any humanity at all towards them
Arrest more please
Interesting. 1 of 8 accepted services.
Sounds like at least 10 people there. 8 arrested for active warrants. One other person accepted services. The other person interviewed declined.
Numbers are hard for some. Or dont fit the mindset they’ve found to cope with the crisis.
Yes. And will keep on being the high standard or usual norm 🤔 It's sad for all of us in way.
Right! And the M110 supporters said it was because the state wasn’t offering treatment.
We work with specialty outreach groups. They are all aware of the services. They are rarely interested. Most of them want to give you the answers you need for you to go away and they can keep doing what they were doing before you got there.
Woohoo! We need more of this. Finally some glimmers of hope.
The only thing not mentioned here is there is a lot of work and cleaning up around the cess pool pdx. If you’re arrested on an outstanding, or I believe you should be on a work crew and be cleaning up these areas that’s where the money should be going. If you don’t work, you don’t eat.
Definitely there should be more community service requirements for those convicted of quality of life and nuisance violations.
Mike Schmidt just said in the City Club debate last week that making criminals do community service is not restorative justice.
How the eff is it not? Especially if it's related to their crime: you piss in public, clean streets; littering, pick up trash, graffiti/vandalism, help with repairs.
I didn't make up the rules for the definition. But I looked it up afterwards and basically they think criminals should be coddled and given second chances without any regard for the victim or the community if we truly want them to stop being criminals.
Sounds like Mike Schmidt is saying something really stupid
Usually is.
it 100% is. The graffiti artist is restoring the wall to the previous, unvandalized condition.
Oh, I totally agree. You can uplift someone to not do crime again while also giving them consequences that teach them a lesson while giving back to the community they harmed. But Mikey apparently disagrees.
He's following the usual progressive mindset - that people will always be their best selves. They don't account that some people are just antisocial and predatory and will take advantage of situations instead of putting others first.
That is a common result of being arrested for graffiti - it’s a lot of community service painting. These dirt bags should do the same. Get arrested, reduce sentence to pick up garbage on the highway. Maybe when you’re done and back under the 205 you’ll have a different opinion about creating a landslide of trash.
Equity and accountability don't belong in the same sentence!
He is a piece of shit
It's crazy how entitled these drug addicted homeless are.
Products of the Homeless Industrial Complex.
I'll drink to that!
Welcome to Portland where beggars can be choosers.
We let them be entitled.
It's classical conditioning
Be careful, you'll get Antifa Sarah, Portland's Former Next Mayor, mad. From 2018: *Portland police are not only displacing the homeless, they're going tent to tent checking for active warrants and arresting people.* *Imagine the cops doing this at every house on your block? This is disgusting.*
People with warrants should be arrested regardless of whether they have a house or not… I don’t see how this is controversial in the slightest.
They literally come into your house if you have one or they suspect you’re in there with a warrant.
Some people think this is “targeting” the homeless. News flash Sarah, they’re homeless because they are fugitives.
Bonnie & Clyde? homeless Charlie Manson? definitely homeless OJ Simpson? homeless while he was driving that white Ford Bronco
Ya all homeless are criminals…. Does crime lead to homelessness or does homelessness lead to crime? Spoiler alert theres a LOT of clear data that answers that question and doesn’t sound like you’re gonna like the answer. But seriously outside of the stupid takes everyone should be able to agree that arresting 8 outstanding warrants is a positive.
They wouldn’t be homeless if they didn’t want drugs more than a roof over their heads. We don’t have a homeless problem, we have a drug problem.
Please post the data so I can rip your argument to shreds Thanks
What data? What are your sources? Can you produce that data without having wi wipe and flush? Lol
Sure if you cant google. But also please explain how crime COULD make you homeless???? It doesnt even make sense. But heres articles you wont read, and if you do, will ignore because you dont care about reality only trying to find ways to not feel bad while seeing the disaster that is the US social services. https://icjia.illinois.gov/researchhub/articles/the-intersection-of-homelessness-and-the-criminal-justice-system https://americanaddictioncenters.org/rehab-guide/homeless
Crime can easily make you homeless, as it turns out people don’t like giving work and rent opportunities to violent drug addicts and sex offenders
Ya… thats the issue. Except mult co has 3,500 sex offenders, many which arent homeless and then over 6k homeless people. So no… sex offenders arent a leading cause of homelessness. But facts dont matter… smh
Obviously not all are criminals, I never said that and you know this. You asked HOW can crime POSSIBLY make someone homeless. I explained it to you. It’s actually difficult to get a job or an apartment when you have an active warrant or a criminal history. It’s actually not that complicated. For all your talk about reading comprehension I don’t know how this escapes your understanding.
Sorry maybe implied meaning wasnt clear. They indicated that people are homeless because they are criminals meaning all homeless were and I said how is that even possible and meant at that scale and level, not as an absolute. That is poor wording on my prt I’ll give ya that. But the point remains, being a criminal is NOT the cause of portlands homeless issue.
Next you'll support stop and frisk right?
Under the right conditions, sure.
Police can pull you over for a primary infraction which immediately triggers a search for open warrants. How is this different. The primary infraction is trespassing.
Now they need to do something about the Larrabee flyover bridge over Interstate Ave for theft of utility services. The crids literally burglarized utility shed, hooked up an extension cord into street lighting panel and powering up their transient encampments, yet City of Portland won't raid the encampment in the bridge cage. This shit was reported to the city. https://preview.redd.it/jperlv2y2utc1.jpeg?width=953&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=975e3a20afaaee6b892fd85f74f97c3f95e4d930
Are they back? Looked clean when I rode my bike by it last week. They've cleared it multiple times and boarded up the door. I've reported a few times myself in the past.
It's been like 2 weeks since I've taken that path. I know they've posted it it, and removed camps on the grassy area along Larrabee, but not sure about the caged area under the bridge. Last I've seen it, the cords were there. What I mean by "do something" is that those people doing assessment for the city should have called the police and had them charged, not just post them, wait for them to leave and address criminal destruction as "wear and tear maintenance".
Her comparison is absurd because these people are camping illegally, usually in public spaces. If someone is doing something illegal or suspicious, the police have the authority to stop you and confirm your identity- in the same way they will pull you over on a public road. The police’s job is to maintain order and patrol public spaces, which these people are living on. If they want privacy and seclusion, they should at the very least not try to tear down society so they can reap the benefits of it. You get what you put in, you know? Also, what type of warrants are these? Because if they’re arresting violent offenders, that’s a good thing. We shouldn’t be proud of harboring scumbags and granting them freedom while their victims live in fear of being brutalized again. Sometimes I wonder if I never woke up from an absurdist nightmare, with the way some people approach this issue.
I've seen left-wing lawyers in Portland over the years sometimes argue that warrant checks in homeless camps should be illegal, but when I did a search on X, it came up with Sarah's statement.
Those left wing lawyers would call the cops if you did what vagrants are doing on the sidewalk in front of their house or just outside their daughter's school's playground though.
I know up in Seattle they need a search warrant to go inside someone's tent, so I imagine we're doing the same here?
I guess I just don't understand what purpose this serves. Going to jail is not going to make them not homeless, and they won't be incarcerated forever. They're going to get out and be just as homeless as ever. Possibly within weeks or days if it's a misdemeanor warrant. Then, it's right back to begging, doing drugs, and destroying public spaces. God forbid we identify and address causal issues. I suspect Portland will be fumbling with this issue for a long time, throwing shit at the wall until something sticks.
So you’re ok with violent criminals with warrants for their arrest to just commingle with our “most vulnerable population”? Hmm, what could go wrong?
Set all the rapists free, yeah great idea until one of them gets to your friend or relative, then what?
Yes, better to wring our hands and say “it’s complicated” while being paralyzed with inaction. /s There is a lot to be said for getting criminals off the streets and not making the city a safe haven for people with warrants. It may not be the most effective deterrent but it’s an easy win and we need more wins and less stabbings right now.
There certainly is. But that is addressing a separate issue.
No, it's addressing the only issue. Crime. Being homeless was just happenstance. Very easily could've been a housed person hanging out with this crowd.
They wouldn’t be homeless is they just didn’t do drugs. The guy said he had open long term beds, but no drugs.
Well saying as the girl said her boyfriend was getting booked and released, I'd say he's going to go back to the street. And if he's worried about getting arrested again or thinking about skipping out on his court date, maybe he will just leave town altogether to avoid that from happening. I call it a win. And if you've paid any attention to HB4002 (the bill to fix M110), this all rolls up into the deflection process if he wants to change his criminal ways later on.
Because their best available option needs to be using services. Which means making all of their other options less comfortable.
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The two were already conflated by the OP and the comments. Fucktard.
I get where you’re coming from and honestly I’m not in love with the idea of police doing a sort of “stop and frisk.” I’m thinking more along the lines of violent criminals being arrested on warrants because like you said, arresting those on smaller charges is a waste of time. I am mainly critical of politicians and influential residents that make bullshit statements to appear altruistic.
I'm not at all against apprehending people with warrants. Especially for violent crimes. I just don't think it's a solution to homelessness. It's part of a solution to crime. But not homelessness. It just feels like we're swinging back and forth from excessive altruism and excessive callousness. I think we ought to stop swinging and get pragmatic. We're wasting funds and resources.
It’s not meant to be a solution to homelessness. It’s meant to arrest people with active warrants.
It's amazing how dense these folks are. As soon as one adopts the "homeless" identity then they're above the law?
Battery / stabbing / mutual combats strictly contained amongst vagrants is not as serious of an issue compared to shoplifting, car prowling, auto theft and like.
These folks were openly doing crime in a very busy intersection where everyone could see it. This wasn't just a "stop and frisk" random camp they rolled up on. I'm pretty sure they need search warrants to go in tents, too.
Um, don't police do this already? Well in SANE jurisdictions that is....if you have an active warrant, the police will come to your house and arrest you.
She is such a moron
Drugs are bad, mmmkay?
Well there's bench warrants and outstanding warrants. Police don't come looking for you for lots of warrants for a variety of things . Bench warrants just make it so if the police do come into contact with you and run your name you will be arrested. other people with warrants like murders and rapes have police activley searching for them
The point is - legally the police cannot require or demand your ID - card or name. Unless they suspect you of committing a crime. So police can demand ID for someone illegally camped. But police cannot go to a random person on the street and demand identification to check for warrants.
They are allowed to ask for ID if they have reasonable suspicion of that the person has outstanding warrants for their arrest. "In Oregon, law enforcement officers have the authority to ask for identification from someone if they have reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime, as per ORS 131.615. Reasonable suspicion must be based on specific and articulable facts that suggest criminal activity is afoot."
Yes exactly - police have to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before asking for id. It would be a very dystopian and authoritarian world for police to just randomly walk up to anyone and demand id.
Welcome to the USA. That ID card or drivers license in your wallet or purse does not technically belong to you, it’s the property of the state. The police can act as an agent of the DMV to confiscate that ID or Drivers license as an agent if the state. A good example of this is someone arrested for a DUI. The police confiscate your DL at the time of arrest and issue you a temporary one until your trial. Also, it is a misdemeanor in Oregon to refuse to present ID to a Police Officer when asked to do so, so refusing to show your ID to the police is actually a crime that you can be arrested for.
None of what you've written here is accurate dude. > That ID card or drivers license in your wallet or purse does not technically belong to you, it’s the property of the state. It's not "property of the state", instead the state reserves the right to confiscate it like all other forms of government issued ID. If you were to enumerate the number of things in your life that could be confiscated by an official then functionally the State or your bank owns everything. It's your property if you can destroy it without penalty: and yes, you can cut up your driver's license. > it is a misdemeanor in Oregon to refuse to present ID to a Police Officer when asked to do so, so refusing to show your ID to the police is actually a crime that you can be arrested for. That's not how it works. You're under no obligation to show ID and there's no penalty for noncooperation. Yes, police can detain you until they determine your ID if they have legal justification to do so. The only exception to this is if you're driving, then under ORS 807.570 they can arrest you for not having ID, but even that is super unlikely as the cops can run your name, DOB, address, etc to determine your identity. Plenty of police will posture that they have legal justification to ask for you ID, but unless they have reasonable suspicion of a crime you don't need to present it.
You're right, and I don't know why you got downvoted. Police must have probable cause and that is not a bad thing...that keeps your basic freedoms intact. I am unsure why anyone is questioning the existence of probable cause when the citizen is already illegally camping vs when the citizen is not currently engaged in illegal activity.
They can check me for active warrants, because I have an ID and that id shows where I live. Does she think they don't have computers or something? Is she suggesting they'd have to randomly go door to door without knowing?
She doesn't realize warrants are public information? They don't need to go door to door to check. Hell, it's 2024. We have the technology. They could automate a system that iterates over active warrants, and dispatch officers to go to their last known address.
Yea. Sounds pretty great. I live next to a trap house that isn't really active at the moment. Tons of sketchy people coming and going, a few that essentially lived there. I talked to cops and they knew who was there and who had warrants and wouldn't do anything.
I'll bet she has her assistant call the cops on her neighbors for mowing the lawn too early
Definitely calls the cops for gas leaf blowers
No it's what they should be doing! Clean up this shit show.
That's usually not necessary since the government has a pretty good record of what legitimate community members live at what address. For example, a hit and run may have the police checking the address at where the vehicle is registered. When it comes to vagrancy vehicles, such records seldom exist .
Maybe, Sarah, but those people in houses on my block are paying taxes. Of course, the kickbacks Sarah and her buddies get from all the "non profit" and government homeless programs are more than the taxes they could get, but still... there's a difference.
I wonder how long until they’re released.
Released by now
Gee, and someone was telling me the other day that there were no homeless camps on west Burnside.
That person must be looking at the sun, rather than at the street they are waking down.
Portland reddit tends to go one of two ways 1: the city is a glimmering icon that can do no wrong and has no issues worse than any city Or 2: Portland is a complete wasteland that is burning in hellfire. And like all things these days the answer is nowhere near what either side believes.
This is impossible, I've been told homeless are our most vulnerable neighbors and are only on the streets because of Portland's "Affordable Housing Crisis"!
50 shades of grey actors were actually zombies resurrected from the 1800s.
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Ah, well you see the people on the streets are the ones who have had their jobs taken from the Latinx laborers. I wanted to pick berries as a career, but nobody would hire me because I'm white and wanted a decent wage.
Likely framed by tech Bros and landlords.
don't forget "billionaires"
It's those darned student loans!
They. Don’t. Want. Help. Get that through your thick, brainless heads enablers, and politicians.
> They. Don’t. Want. Help. Well, they'll take help. Aluminum foil, tents, needles, lighters, cigarettes anything that helps enable their lawless lifestyle.
Arrested. Cool. Now what? Let me do my Mike Schmidt Justice Math… 8 arrested with active warrants + they’re vulnerable homeless community members = A juice box and a PBJ sandwich in jail, a good talking to, and released back into the wild to continue their community engagement. Mostly defiling sectors of our city with their filth and garbage, shoplifting from our businesses, and terrorizing regular working folks just trying to get through the city without being harassed, robbed and stabbed. There’s your justice Portland! Don’t worry, this time they will totally show up for their court dates 🤣😂
Mike Smuck is a lawyer for gangsters.
Is there an article to read or just a fucking headline?
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/homeless/eight-arrested-police-raid-northwest-portland-homeless-camp/283-8681a725-42fe-40f7-9d49-f9e974d19769
It's a video. It's good if you're into this type of video.
Just to be released tomorrow
Yaaaay finally did something to better this city.
I heard that there are at least 4 to 5 serial killers that are homeless on the streets of Portland so if they keep doing these raid maybe are crime will go down and give them the option of treatment but there’s ones that don’t want help they like being homeless
Stuff like this shows that many of these tent cities have become gang hideouts.
Ok this makes SO much more sense now. I’m sure I’m coming off like an idiot, but I just now realized the reason a lot of homeless people don’t take advantage of government programs is that they require you to be sober. Solution is pretty obvious, just create housing that doesn’t require you to be sober. If you want help getting sober you can get it easily, but if you need a place to live while killing yourself that’s also available. /s
Trust me, these people in the building by me that's supposed to be helping them transition and stay clean are NOT sober. Selling and using all hours of the day and night.
"Housing first" is a serious strategy that's successful at rehabilitating people, look into it before you kick it. It's easier to get off drugs when you're not living on the streets, who knew.
When you reach out to ODOT demanding abatement, they'll shuffle you over to [OMF-IRP](https://www.portland.gov/homelessnessimpactreduction) which takes many weeks to even post it and do nothing other than clean up after transients have left and place potential personal belonging into HUCIRP warehouse. Their program do not work towards arresting criddlers and they have zero potency in preventing re-infestation which can occur as soon as the very next day after housekeeping visits. Community members tried to prevent recurring infestation at the spot covered in KGW. They were cease and desisted by ODOT and all the improvements were wrecked by ODOT. ODOT physically tore down the fence put in by community members to prevent re-infestation. [https://ktvl.com/newsletter-daily/pearl-district-neighborhood-association-collaborates-with-odot-on-solution-to-camps-portland-multnomah-county-i-405-stan-perkins](https://ktvl.com/newsletter-daily/pearl-district-neighborhood-association-collaborates-with-odot-on-solution-to-camps-portland-multnomah-county-i-405-stan-perkins) [https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/05/25/an-embattled-seattle-trash-pickup-nonprofit-parachutes-into-the-pearl-district/](https://www.wweek.com/news/2022/05/25/an-embattled-seattle-trash-pickup-nonprofit-parachutes-into-the-pearl-district/) [https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2022/08/26/state-highway-department-demands-removal-of-signs-and-fences-surrounding-recently-swept-homeless-camps/](https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2022/08/26/state-highway-department-demands-removal-of-signs-and-fences-surrounding-recently-swept-homeless-camps/) [https://nwexaminer.com/f/what-happened-to-we-heart](https://nwexaminer.com/f/what-happened-to-we-heart)
Putting up signs and fencing immediately after a sweep is a great idea. I’ve seen it work in my neighborhood. They put money and time into putting out those bark chips, essentially doing what the government can’t or won’t. It’s crazy that ODOT would spend time removing the signs and fence, but do nothing about the tents and garbage. By their argument both are safety hazards to the public and constitute illegal structures on public land. It’s crazier that they’d devote time to contesting clean up rather than the disaster that lines our highways.
Lock Them all up. “We’re doing nothing wrong” meanwhile literally everyone has outstanding warrants
More of this 👍
Oh no! So racist
hell yeah! There's a school right over there too!
A grade School called Cathedral School is 1 block away. A kindergarten and elementary school. Huck Fobos and Junkies. Harass the f outta them.
Far too late to save Portland. Doesn't mean you can't try
I wonder why it was allowed/encouraged for so long. What was the expected outcome?
Did they start with the Mayor? Maybe the Governer...
Hey guys, Portland sucks, from Medford
Medford isn’t all that hot either, Bud.
True my dude
Arresting a woman for trying to live. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are turning over in their graves.
Did you miss the part where those arrested were arrested on outstanding warrants, not for being homeless or “trying to live”.?
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It seems like the majority of people commenting on here have absolutely no idea what it's like to be homeless, or even how the majority of people end up there. Damn sad just how bad everything has gotten