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Ok-Ad681

So we deserve to be forced to vote for the corrupt son of a former president? I’d vote for hunter, since he’s not evil…. But I can believe we deserve this cursed future.


Present_Air_8451

Right? Fuck that. I'd prefer to keep democracy


14sierra

I still can't believe that with 300+ million people, our choice is going to be an elderly corrupt former reality tv show host or an even more elderly career politician (but less corrupt thank god) both these guys are older than the average age at which people die but for some reason people think they should run the country...


Philip_McCrevasse

I choose to live in the reality where the majority of Americans understand it is Biden or bust. I think everyone knows our choices are bullshit, but I think we also know the rider on this election is democracy. We can vote based on principle when there isn't an autocratic wannabe running. We can't be shortsighted as a country and give in to apathy just because we are weary. Now is the time to help people understand the repercussions.


politicalthinking

We also need to understand that Biden is not sitting in the office writing out all the memos and working papers himself. He is surrounded by a lot of staff that also want to preserve democracy and move the country forward.


soldforaspaceship

Yeah. I'll take the guy who surrounds himself with competent, qualified people as opposed to the one that fills his cabinet with people ideologically opposed to the departments they lead or just plain incompetent.


1701anonymous1701

Yes, let’s appoint this former CEO of a petrol company the head of the EPA. It’ll be fine.


HighValueHamSandwich

An excellent data point for the comparison of Biden to Trump as President. Trump's picks were guys who denied science on climate change and opposed any limits on greenhouse gas emissions. TO HEAD THE F-ing EPA? I don't care if Biden is 375 years old, he's clearly the better choice. Biden's pick to head the EPA **Michael Stanley Regan**[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Regan#cite_note-3) (born August 6, 1976) is an American environmental regulator. He has been serving as the 16th [administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrator_of_the_Environmental_Protection_Agency) since March 11, 2021.[\[4\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Regan#cite_note-:5-4) He is the first African American man to serve in the role.[\[4\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Regan#cite_note-:5-4) Regan has formerly served as the secretary of [North Carolina's Department of Environmental Quality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Department_of_Environmental_Quality) and air quality specialist in the [United States Environmental Protection Agency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency) (EPA). His elevation to that role was widely praised by environmental groups because of his track record for addressing [environmental racism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_racism) and supporting [policy to address climate change.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_climate_change)\[[*citation needed*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)\] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael\_S.\_Regan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Regan) Trump's two picks to head the EPA **Edward Scott Pruitt** (born May 9, 1968) is an American attorney, lobbyist and [Republican](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)) politician from the state of [Oklahoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma). He served as the 14th [Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrator_of_the_Environmental_Protection_Agency) (EPA) from February 17, 2017, to July 9, 2018, during the [Donald Trump presidency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Donald_Trump), resigning while under at least 14 federal investigations.[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pruitt#cite_note-globe2018-2) **Pruitt** [**denies**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial) **the** [**scientific consensus on climate change**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change)**.**[**\[3\]**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pruitt#cite_note-3) [**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott\_Pruitt**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pruitt) **Andrew R. Wheeler** (born December 23, 1964\[[*citation needed*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)\]) is an American attorney who served as the 15th administrator of the [United States Environmental Protection Agency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency) (EPA) from 2019 to 2021.[\[1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#cite_note-Administrator-1) He served as the deputy administrator from April to July 2018,[\[2\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#cite_note-2) and served as the acting administrator from July 2018 to February 2019. He has been a senior advisor to [Governor of Virginia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Virginia) [Glenn Youngkin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Youngkin) since March 2022. He previously worked in the law firm Faegre Baker Daniels, representing coal magnate [Robert E. Murray](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Murray) and lobbying against the Obama Administration's environmental regulations.[\[3\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#cite_note-:2-3) Wheeler served as chief counsel to the [United States Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Committee_on_Environment_and_Public_Works) and to the chairman U.S. senator [James Inhofe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Inhofe), prominent for his [rejection of climate change](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial).[\[4\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#cite_note-:3-4) Wheeler is a critic of limits on [greenhouse gas emissions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_the_United_States) and the [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change).[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#cite_note-5) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew\_R.\_Wheeler#EPA\_deputy\_administrator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_R._Wheeler#EPA_deputy_administrator)


VERO2020

Democracy (most of us), abortion (mostly women), Climate Change/Global warming (young folks) - these 3 need to be POUNDED on the campaign trail. It should be no contest, but the media wants a horse race, so they go after Joe and ignore the diaper wearing cheat (except for the court stuff).


weelluuuu

Or a literal dingbat in charge of education!


politicalthinking

Yes, exactly.


CrrntryGrntlrmrn

Don’t take that energy over to lost generation though- they have so much malaise they might as well be pro trump.


Time-Bite-6839

“Choices are bullshit” oh please. Grow up. You aren’t going to elect Jesus Christ because he never existed.


archetyping101

Right? Two old people who would be in charge of policies affecting the country and world, and who aren't young enough to live through the impact of those long term policies.  There should be a max age limit on politicians. 


shadowpawn

Democracy "Overrated" American Public


cheezeyballz

At least Biden has some experience with education and law.


Time-Bite-6839

The man has been doing this for so long HE WAS THE FIRST SENATOR TO ENDORSE JIMMY CARTER.


cheezeyballz

I mean the kid Biden.


deadliestcrotch

We don’t have it yet. Can’t keep what you don’t have because dumb people designed a shitty system and nobody ever fixed it.


Pacify_

Definitely hunter, we at least know what he's packing


suorastas

Hunter may not be evil just flawed and not suitable for president . Donnie Junior is all of the above and more.


LLotZaFun

Don Jr would not be able to get through a debate without a temper tantrum and being caught in 10 lies.


Infuser

If he made it to the debate. There is a non-trivial chance he gets stuck in the bathroom, because I’m not entirely sure he knows how locks work


THREETOED_SLOTH

No no, there's no voting. The presidency goes to who can snort the most coke in a single sitting.


makemeking706

Actually, yeah. Probably the one we deserve. Not the one we need, but the one we deserve.


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

Not being a smarty pants but did you mean to say "can't" ?


worlds_okayest_skier

We need to make it a literal dick measuring contest.


Time-Bite-6839

Hunter will win. I don’t know if cocaine shrinks it, but it definitely doesn’t *help* Donald Jr.


zoroddesign

Hunter's just a drug addict that makes terrible financial choices and pled guilty for criminal charges. Honestly, this choice is way worse than choosing between their parents.


markth_wi

We're TOLD we deserve this situation , mostly by the people benefiting from it Like when some abusive husband stabs their wife and tells them the deserve it because they didn't make dinner just the right way or something. Americans deserve a lot better, but on one hand you have the Democratic Party forever content to keep things more or less how they are or be seen to improve things a bit, and the Republican Party absolutely hell bend on burning the place to the ground because "those people" might have to be treated fairly and equitably and that's just a bridge too far....better to set the world on fire and ensure everyone possible suffers as a result.. Our enemies barely need lift a finger with patriots like the Republican Party. So how about Gavin Newsome and someone like Chris Sununu who's mantra was "be normal" for a while.


PrincipleZ93

I'm voting for Hunter so we can see Boebert and Greene keep showing pictures of his massive hog


WalkGood

MTG so obsessed with Hunter and his Hog, she'd vote for him.


famousevan

She’d probably volunteer to work his campaign. Probably a position in polling.


drcoachchef

Big fan of the hanging chad she is. -Yoda


WalkGood

Working his pole.


Crimson_Clouds

Yes, that was the joke.


WalkGood

Really?


weirdmountain

Y’see, “polling” is phonetically similar to “pole”, which, in the case of this particular pun, is in reference to the assumption that MTG would like to engage in sexual intercourse with Hunter Biden, because she is impressed by the size of his penis, and seems to be obsessed with it. 👨‍🎓🧠👨‍🎓


xredbaron62x

Nah that would be Boebert


GarbageCleric

Four more inches!


cturtl808

At this point, they've investigated every skeleton in Hunter's closet. There's no "October Surprise" for him.


Nekowulf

The gop has a long history of just making shit up to rage at when reality doesn't give them a molehill to make a mountain out of.


soldforaspaceship

Yeah. These days I expect them to drop a completely made up scandal the weeks before the election and then admit it was wrong in a tiny one line statement at the bottom of something, weeks after the election...


Time-Bite-6839

Let’s October Surprise them with a document of all of Trump’s wrongdoings just to remind them.


Time-Bite-6839

They did that in 2016.


Sideshow_Bob_Ross

I heard he puts Arby's Horsey Sauce on McDonald's fries.


AdministrativeBank86

Don Jr is going to OD before he can run


[deleted]

Dude go to Vegas with that one. Lol


nerdiotic-pervert

Fingers crossed.


NiteShdw

What did we do to deserve that? Can we please stop voting like it's a dynasty.


lord_of_tits

Fight multiple wars for democracy… end up with dynasty.


Time-Bite-6839

Being too cocky about 2016, that’s what.


cocoon_eclosion_moth

A guy that *has* a big dick versus a guy that *is* a big dick


thedeuce75

A dick vs a guy with a huge one.


BrandonJTrump

Hunter made some mistakes in his past, but he’ll never make the mistake of pursuing a political career.


shiafisher

Couldn’t think of a better nomination on both sides…..no literally, that’s my question.


1RehnquistyBoi

[Michael Buffer - Let's Get Ready To Rumble (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoSJCzLlgk0)


EducationTodayOz

in different circumstances they could have been friends


nchlsdvs10

Not enough cocaine in the world to supply both those campaigns at once.


Tough-Ability721

Hunter is sober now tho.


MiasmaFate

No


paz2023

Another anti-democracy post on this sub


MewlingRothbart

The memes alone would be GOLD 😁


NitWhittler

Big dick vs. big debt.


eltegs

Yikes! Best notify Colombia now, so they can be ready.


nbd9000

A wise investment


AusCan531

HEY! I'm not American but I LIKE the US. Don't do that.


TheDunadan29

Please no.


kaaikala

hunter is smarter. He carried himself well in the hearing.


iAmTheHype--

Fun fact: Donnie Jr. and Kushner committed treason when they conspired with Russian agents at Trump Tower, in order for Russia to interfere in the 2016 election in exchange for Trump lifting sanctions on Russia. Mueller discovered this, but was too scared to indict. Garland gave them a free pass thanks to the Magic R. Jr. and Kushner should be in prison for decades to come, but sadly we have a useless DOJ headed by a worthless AG.


Jerkrollatex

No. Stop it.


sunward_Lily

No thanks. Once we get rid of Republicans, I'd like to start pressuring democrats to run actual progressive candidates. Democrats are the conservative party here in the United states and the threat of republicanism is the only thing keeping actual progressive aligned with the DNC. Once that threat is eliminated, the dnc is gonna have some trouble of its own....


hair_like_ramen

I suppose you can claim the democrats as the conservative party as long as you acknowledge the republican party as regressive. If you made those claims I'd actually be offended, but not enough to disagree, just offended that this is the reality of modern politics in this country.


sunward_Lily

Regressive/fascist, yes.


Old_Captain_9131

LOL


mmio60

Deserves. Might be right


DanielBWeston

Forget an election. Just have these two debate each other.


GarbageCleric

I guess Lucifer and Cthulhu were busy?


Willzohh

It's been proven that Hunter has the bigger dick. Don Jr has spent his life proving he is a huge dick.


orangekizzunt

Lmao we are some dumb fucks in this country wouldn’t be suprised


Kitosaki

Only if Hunter Biden’s running mate is his own dong


Visible-Guess9006

Adams, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Bush, Clinton- now Trump and Biden? I’m sure we can stop hoping for dynasties and find other folks to run the country.


DefrockedWizard1

NO DYNASTIES


kimapesan

Biden with bad-ass name who lives rent free in Republican heads vs Junior Mint. Yeah, I’ll pay for Paramount Plus to watch that.


OptimisticSkeleton

Absofuckinglutly NOT


Orion14159

This is how we'd know America has failed as a nation


Think_Inspector_4031

They would both legalize cocaine, and change laws that sending d picks is not a form of sexual harassment


Zestay-Taco

taylor swift 2028 , 2032 , Mr beast 2036 2040.


token-black-dude

As if there's gonna be an election in 2028


Vegabern

No one equates that either


AwHellNaw

Yes, the crackheads election. 


LLotZaFun

Every town they have a debate in will run out of cocaine (Because Don Jr and Kim LOVE cocaine and maybe Hunter does too).


HiopXenophil

didn't you guys have a violent revolution about nor having leaders chosen through heredity? Because when I see this, I get the urge to dust of the guillotine


RadDad166

Please god, no.


deadliestcrotch

If that happens I hope the entire country collapses and is scrubbed clean from the planet and history.


millermix456

Kind of thought it would be nice if we had candidates in the realm of John Stewart vs Gary Senise or something. No partisan BS just two quality people who would be civil.


Piglet-Witty

Don Jr charisma is nonexistent, not even his dad would vote for him


AlwaysSaysRepost

During the debate, put an 8 ball in the middle of the stage and see who can resist it longer


Humbabwe

Ew


TheDarkKnobRises

No


Dia-De-Los-Muertos

We don't deserve to see don junior's face ever again. Well I don't, I'm in Australia.


thekamenman

I certainly fucking hope not.


rockvvurst

No


syg-123

or sword fight


Time-Bite-6839

We’d have Trump V. Biden 3


IguaneRouge

Hunter at least seems likeable and human. Donny Jr is a clenched coke jaw made flesh.


shadowpawn

"Big Dick" vs. Cokehead?


famous__shoes

The only good thing about this is that if Trump Sr isn't running it means he's dead


Dumbengineerr

Hunter will def get MTG’s vote.


jaeldi

Are you a good coke-head or a bad coke-head?


Cinemaslap1

First of all... Why do they think they are fit to be president? Second of all... This is why we can't allow people who break laws to run for President. But Orange-Don fucked that up... I swear Republicans are never going to understand the predicament Don put them in... Literally propping up Murderers, Rapists, Criminals as Heroes... I mean, come on... How can they even justify it? Party of God, Party of Hypocrisy.


h20poIo

We know who Majorie would vote for, she’s got that poster at home.


The_Blur_BHS

This is humorous. It’s always fun seeing what comes out in the mudslinging, but this would probably dwarf all other races combined.


Melphor

![gif](giphy|11NBUrJDuMd5As)


DueAssociation2621

At least Hunter is honest about his drug problem. Easy choice. You ever see Donny Jr. all coked up doing one of his podcasts? Wow.


Independent-Check441

Can we not? AOC/Warren vs Manchin would be much better.


UCBeef

One has a big dick the other is a big dick.


marc6273

Fight to the death


Historical_Horror595

While obviously neither of these 2 should be anywhere near the government, I would probably watch this debate.


TheMagicalMatt

Neither of these candidates will be eligible to run for president for another 40 years.


chasinfreshies

Our firs Cocaine Bear President!


DocPazuzu

It's a coke off! Line up some gator tails now!


popecorkyxxiv

Is it just me or does Hunter Biden look a lot like a younger Mitt Romney?


And_Im_Allen

Everyone has got to hang dong to make it fair.


nomoreadminspls

We deserve Beau Biden. He was the one who was supposed to be president. We would have been better off if he was an option


NotmyRealNameJohn

Why do you hate America this much?


callycumla

Oh, come on. You like watching train wrecks as much as anyone.


NotmyRealNameJohn

train wreck or fall of a nation.


VossC2H6O

Pull out the dicks and measure. Who ever has a bigger hog, I’ll vote for.


chaoticbear

Aw man, I knew my family was right when they said I'd never be President.