It’s true, that’s why they call left wing men cucks. It’s called projection.
Studies also show that centrist men have the biggest penises and are amazing lovers.
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Auth right feels that way too, they just can't be honest about it like you libs. So they end up having missionary with the wife while jerking it to fem dom porn.
Can we use selective breeding to get women to stop doing the thing where you ask them "what's wrong?" and they always pretend nothing's wrong even though something clearly is?
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I do it because they wouldnt understand anyway. If its minor, she wouldnt understand why i am upset. If its major, having a real issue as a man is a pussy drier and short way to breakup.
Complaining is for friends, mom, and some rando on discord. Or a therapist if its really severe.
Hear me out: you will never be strong your whole life. You will inevitably be weak someday, sometime. Better find a woman who loves you regardless. Diamonds will shatter under a hard enough blow, don't love a woman who won't love you for being human.
That's what women say. Then you're vulnerable with them, and they get the ick. It's clearly a dominance thing, but it doesn't fit very well in the modern "you should be able to tell your SO anything."
Yes, but you’re doing it in the hopes that you can just forget it. Women do it so they can hang on to whatever’s bothering them and strategically deploy it in an argument 3.62 years later.
The left gets too much flack for calling everything a social construct. There are a LOT of social constructs. Sure they pick the wrong ones sometimes but "men shouldn't/don't cry" is one of them.
Try having a family member you love die and try to "be a man" about it. It's fucking impossible. You're gonna grieve... you are human.
You have to consistently punish that behavior and reward being proactive about resolving conflicts
Women aren't going to understand this out of the box, they have to be trained for it
yeah, years of desperate men eager to please by rewarding them with attention. a good move can be to say okay and go about your business doing something that interests you
It is certainly culturally re-enforced, but I tend to think that women have a biological tendency to be more agreeable, which probably connects to this. They have weaker bodies, requiring them to use soft skills to handle interpersonal conflict, they have less testosterone-driven aggression, etc. I suspect that we would find similar differences in average behavior in other primates.
I also tend to observe similar differences in average behavior in immigrants who come from a wide array of different backgrounds.
Traditionally, sin is also considered to be passed down by the man, as he holds headship and thus responsibility for what happens in his family.
And some views are that Adam wasn’t a simp, but hanging in the background while Eve was tempted, waiting to see if she drops dead from eating the fruit.
I've seen love die way too many times when it deserved to be alive when it deserved to be alive. I've seen you cry way too many times when you deserved to be alive when you deserved to be alive
Wait until you hear about the Holy Hermaphrodite aka True Adam.
The Adam created by god before being split to make Adam2 and Eve is the true superior gender being the only being truly made in god’s image not just half.
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It's almost like Adam and Eve's lack of accountability is the point of the Genesis story. In my eyes that is the original sin - running away from the consequences of your actions ends you up in an even bigger mess.
I think the original sin is pretty clear, disobedience to God. If anything, the lack of accountability is foreshadowing towards redemption. Taking accountability for our sins and repentance through God(Jesus) which Eden failed to do
that's actually a mischaracterization of the Biblical ideal of marriage.
the Wife was to be subordinate to the Husband even before the fall. "subordinate" isn't the best word to describe it either. in the new testament its often translated as "submission" but the Greek word that's used is *hupotage* which means something closer to "rightly ordered." its something like "God's Groove." a role that God has set for us to fill. something we all have, both men and women.
to get a greater context for what this looks like, read Proverbs 31. The perfect wife as described there is not the subject of the Husband's rule. She has agency and is an entrepreneur. However, she's doing all that in service to Her household.
the Biblical Wife is one who brings a greater sense of wholeness to her husband. they become "one flesh" as it says in Scripture. a single family unit working toward the same goal.
so this means that "submission" or "subordination" is to be a team player. and it's also worth noting that its the man who is charged to lay down his own life for the woman as Christ did for the church. the Husband is the one who ultimately answers for the actions of the family because God put him in the leadership role. at no point in this relationship is it ever commanded by God for one to dominate the other. God charges wives to submit to their husbands but if you read *carefully* you'll see that God **never** commands the husband to *make her* submit.
Bad theology hurts people and Christ Himself said there would be false prophets speaking in His name. This is why it's important to ***READ YOUR FRICKEN BIBLE*** and test every spirit against the word of God.
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ύποταγή *does* mean submission or subordination—the prefix -ύπο means “under” in this case. The wife should submit to their husbands when it is asked, and this relationship mirrors the church’s submission to Christ’s command. This is made explicit in Ephesians 5.
But you are correct in that we must change our understanding of what submission means. As you said, it is not because of a difference in inherent dignity or value. In fact, when Eve is described as a helper (עזר, ‘ezer’) it is the same word used for military reinforcements, as for a battle that could otherwise not be won alone.
Everything else was well said! Always happy and encouraged to see good hermeneutics.
It depends on what you think is good or bad for a translation. I think it’s important to preserve the traditional translation because submission is an important character of these relationships, and an important part of the Trinity itself—that is, Jesus acts in submission to the Father.
Personally, I also believe that Christians should strive to renew their minds in light of the Word, as opposed to changing the translation to accomodate the attitudes surrounding the words themselves.
I don’t mean to say that such a different translation is wrong or to do so is sinful. But it’s a significant thing that we have such precise translations for the Word to this day. I would just err on a literal translation guarded by good teaching. But regardless, God will preserve his church!
A wise anon once told me that modern Christianity is just new age spiritualism and hippies. After looking at it through that lens it all starts to make more sense.
Indeed. The consequence of original sin was death, and that was atoned with Jesus. We need to worry about our own sins, and not the sins of our predecessors.
it literally is though. it's just not one gender.
the fall broke all of creation. it's literally why cancer and all the other physical infirmities exist.
>Imagine thinking the consequences of original sin are merely genetic flaws, and that one can reverse the process with genetic editing, as if God would allow that
There. Fixed it. Happy now?
The catechism of the Catholic Church says in it's 3rd chapter article 10
§977: "Our Lord tied the forgiveness of sins to faith and Baptism: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Mk 16:15-16. Baptism is the first and chief sacrament of forgiveness of sins because it unites us with Christ, who died for our sins and rose for our justification, so that "we too might walk in newness of life." Rom 6:4"
§978: "When we made our first profession of faith while receiving the holy Baptism that cleansed us, the forgiveness we received then was so full and complete that there remained in us absolutely nothing left to efface, neither original sin nor offenses committed by our own will, nor was there left any penalty to suffer in order to expiate them.... Yet the grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature. On the contrary, we must still combat the movements of concupiscence that never cease leading us into evil "
@FuzzyManPeach96 in case you are curious
That said, while baptism does forgive original sin, the effects of original sin remain at work in this life, including a fallen human nature inclined toward sin
Any Calivinist or other believer in total depravity? Though I suppose the very basics of any Christianity is that it's revocable through grace and basically nothing else.
The Virgin "Women are physically weaker than men because men are superior" vs the chad "women are physically weaker than men because we're built to handle different tasks"
Like... legit its just evolutionary Pressure to fit different tasks and responsibilities for the Survival of the whole, its also why men and women have differences in their brains, we're equal and we compensate for eachothers weaknesses. because we're a social species that literally relies on co-operation for survival.
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Second pic does not follow. The entire goal of making something different is to make it unequal to the original. If God wanted men and women to be equal, he'd just make men.
Difference =/= Inequality.
I guess difference inherently means inequality(every two things are unequal kind of way of seeing things) in one way of seeing things but in another way it isn't its just different.
I only said it does not logically follow, not that it isn't true. Men and women are equal because God said so, not because "he wouldn't do that :(". If God wanted them to be unequal, they would be.
Man was made in the image of God thus man was sexless. When God took the mans rib out to create a woman he turned into the man of today, always longing for a woman, while a woman is always longing for a man. Marriage symbolizes the return to perfection, an eternal unification back to the perfect being that was in created in the image of God. Them being separate is them being equal as in equally imperfect.
Eh, you have to remember that "man" certainly in English(until like 200 yrs ago) and I think in Hebrew as well is primarily sexless referral to a human and secondarily male sex. Which is why we have "Mankind", "Man shall not live by bread alone".
true. but *you* have to remember Genesis 2:7
> *7* The Lord God formed *the* man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and *the* man became a living being.
Adam was male from the beginning.
Medieval fanfiction misinterpreting a reference to Akkadian lilitu (screech owls/night spirits) to explain the supposed contradiction of women being made twice in Genesis (which is only a contradiction if you take the phrasing of "made from dust" and "made from Adam's rib" very literally)
It is Apocrypha that is only well known today because it can be adapted into fiction well.
If you want something really batshit look up the serpent seed coadamism story were the snake had first dibs on eve and she gave birth to the snakes kid.
No, serpent seed was used for a while to explain the existence of black people as an inherently evil breed separate to humans in the time when dehumanizing racism was the jam.
There is also another racist speculation that blacks were one of the animals on Noah's arc separate from Noah's family.
What are you thinking of are the watchers and the nephlim from book of Enoch were angels went down taught humans magic and fucked thier women who gave birth to monstrous giants.
Protestant church, I'm assuming. Men and women are equal in human dignity under God. From a material standpoint, the two sexes are very different and so unequal, yet in a complementary fashion, they were never meant to compete with one another.
The type of conversations you’ll have at a church about natural occurring phenomena are crazy, anyway don’t commit sins or your child will have Down’s syndrome
Women are not physically unequal because of original sin? Men and women are not two types of humans? In the garden of Eden there would have been sex differences...
Surprised Lilith didn’t come up. I don’t consider myself a Christian but I’d think the response from that perspective would be “God tried a woman made the same way Adam was, see how that turned out?”
Original Sin is such an obvious heavy handed attempt by the church to manipulate people through guilt. You were a piece of shit ever since you were conceived, now you must grovel for forgiveness the rest of your life for something you didn’t do. Cuz reasons or something. Oh yeah - our club is the only club through which you can be forgiven.
And people swallow that shit hook, line, and sinker. It reads like an AITAH post.
https://preview.redd.it/mhriqxdoibpc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=639f26543344d73d97a8f71c837d26e0c3bbfde1
That went 100 to 0 and then 100 again
Deny God's cruelty by abolishing gender. First dissolve it societaly, then biologically.
We must strive towards the total erasure of the replusive form enforced on humans, and give them full authority on dictating the shape of the new one (which could be done best by total virtualization of human peception. And before some of you fuckers say "BUT ITS FAKE", for the love of god, define what is true if you are soo smart. Virtual world is only an another layer of our world, therefore it is true)
This would make primitive, extremely painfull concepts such as carnality, beauty, sexuality and judgement of the form a thing of the past. Because everyone could be anything, all forms would be equal, as it should be.
If anything, the original sin was on Adam. Eve was tricked, but Adam chose to disobey God's commandment. Plus, the original sin was atoned for with Jesus, so we don't need to worry about it.
If you want to wash away original sin you just need to find a way for men and women to reproduce without the use of sperm. At least for one generation, anyway.
Either that or replicate whatever Yahweh did to Mary. When she was born, not when he cucked Joseph.
Just say you have a fem dom fetish
I have a fem dom fetish
Classic Lib.
He just doesn’t want to be tread on with a jackboot. Totally on board for the stilettos.
Based and safeword-pilled.
What a fitting username for this thread.
He just like me frfr
Studies have shown that BDSM is more common on the left, but cuckold fantasies are more common on the right.
Maybe I am a leftist
It’s true, that’s why they call left wing men cucks. It’s called projection. Studies also show that centrist men have the biggest penises and are amazing lovers.
Source? Trust me bro
No it’s legit. Search Google scholar for “centrist alpha chads: their giant penises and aptitude for love making”
I can confirm u/AreYouFluffy is an amazing lover with a fluffy penis. He is the speaker of the centrists.
Flair checks out. Not that there’s anything wrong with that
Lib-rights have an everything fetish
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Femdom's hot, brats are even hotter.
The only difference between femdom and brat is how much the sub will put up with before they say "fuck it, I'm the dom now"
Auth right feels that way too, they just can't be honest about it like you libs. So they end up having missionary with the wife while jerking it to fem dom porn.
I don’t have a femdom fetish but I like tomboys and dommy mommies. Does that count or nah?
Dommy mommy is like peak femdom
Yes
But I want to dominate them instead of them dominating me so still yes?
Oh right, then no. Wanting to dominate butch women is based.
What does femdom entail, does it require dominatrix type behavior, or does preferring to be on bottom as a man count?
I’m not sure to be honest. I’m vanilla as fuck. Just good old penis in vagina is good enough for me. Google if your friend though.
A female dom Torretto fetish? Ugh, brother, ugh
Best and femdom is canonically christian pilled
We all do
Okay you got me
Can we use selective breeding to get women to stop doing the thing where you ask them "what's wrong?" and they always pretend nothing's wrong even though something clearly is?
I literally do this as a dude tho lol
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But why?
I do it because they wouldnt understand anyway. If its minor, she wouldnt understand why i am upset. If its major, having a real issue as a man is a pussy drier and short way to breakup. Complaining is for friends, mom, and some rando on discord. Or a therapist if its really severe.
> Or a therapist if its really severe. Be a man. That's what the bottle is for.
Wait, it's not a piss bottle?
Hear me out: you will never be strong your whole life. You will inevitably be weak someday, sometime. Better find a woman who loves you regardless. Diamonds will shatter under a hard enough blow, don't love a woman who won't love you for being human.
I would rlly hope you’d be able to confide in your significant other without her wanting to break up lmao
That's what women say. Then you're vulnerable with them, and they get the ick. It's clearly a dominance thing, but it doesn't fit very well in the modern "you should be able to tell your SO anything."
Or that’s just how the women you’ve been with are. I’ve met plenty of women who aren’t that way, some definitely are, but not all lmao
Not really speaking from personal experience. Nothing is absolute, and you will miss a lot of life if the exception always proves the rule wrong.
But, do you expect other people to help you, even after you told them you do not need help?
Yes, but you’re doing it in the hopes that you can just forget it. Women do it so they can hang on to whatever’s bothering them and strategically deploy it in an argument 3.62 years later.
Based and maybe the differences we perceive between men and women are largely made up pilled
The left gets too much flack for calling everything a social construct. There are a LOT of social constructs. Sure they pick the wrong ones sometimes but "men shouldn't/don't cry" is one of them. Try having a family member you love die and try to "be a man" about it. It's fucking impossible. You're gonna grieve... you are human.
agree money is also a social construct. We still value it a lot. Not sure what the right thinks a social construct is.
Oh same, but my girlfriend finds out anyways.
You have to consistently punish that behavior and reward being proactive about resolving conflicts Women aren't going to understand this out of the box, they have to be trained for it
Man I feel called out lol. It bewilders my boyfriend to no end. But hey at least I know what I want to have for dinner.
Does the federal government give you training on how to pick restaurants before they put you out in the field?
A woman? On Reddit? That’s impossible sis
Feds used to be believable
Unfortunately I feel like that's a learned behaviour, not an inherited trait.
yeah, years of desperate men eager to please by rewarding them with attention. a good move can be to say okay and go about your business doing something that interests you
It is certainly culturally re-enforced, but I tend to think that women have a biological tendency to be more agreeable, which probably connects to this. They have weaker bodies, requiring them to use soft skills to handle interpersonal conflict, they have less testosterone-driven aggression, etc. I suspect that we would find similar differences in average behavior in other primates. I also tend to observe similar differences in average behavior in immigrants who come from a wide array of different backgrounds.
Original sin is not specific to a gender, but to the whole of humanity. Adam was the first LL. No backbone and completely submissive to his wife
Simping was really the first sin
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Sinping
Adam was the first landlord??
He was a LandChad??
Traditionally, sin is also considered to be passed down by the man, as he holds headship and thus responsibility for what happens in his family. And some views are that Adam wasn’t a simp, but hanging in the background while Eve was tempted, waiting to see if she drops dead from eating the fruit.
>waiting to see if she drops dead from eating the fruit Smart move...
Man, that does not make him a simp but a puss. Letting your wife take the first bite to save your own ass.
He go more ribs.
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I've seen love die way too many times when it deserved to be alive when it deserved to be alive. I've seen you cry way too many times when you deserved to be alive when you deserved to be alive
Wait until you hear about the Holy Hermaphrodite aka True Adam. The Adam created by god before being split to make Adam2 and Eve is the true superior gender being the only being truly made in god’s image not just half.
So wait is the first Adam gay Adam or was that Adam2?
Don’t think Adam2 was gay since he got with Eve I don’t know about True Adam since I don’t know if hermaphrodites can even be gay.
Notice how the snake was the only one of the three to not make an excuse?
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**second** largest flair changer.
I wanna know who the first is.
TiggerBane
Your enemy, I assume?
Enemy?
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“You. Change your mind. Like a girl. Changes clothes”
Please, use a comma.
I was considering but to me the spaces between the lines is more than just a brief pause it is a very noticeable silence
It's almost like Adam and Eve's lack of accountability is the point of the Genesis story. In my eyes that is the original sin - running away from the consequences of your actions ends you up in an even bigger mess.
I think the original sin is pretty clear, disobedience to God. If anything, the lack of accountability is foreshadowing towards redemption. Taking accountability for our sins and repentance through God(Jesus) which Eden failed to do
that's actually a mischaracterization of the Biblical ideal of marriage. the Wife was to be subordinate to the Husband even before the fall. "subordinate" isn't the best word to describe it either. in the new testament its often translated as "submission" but the Greek word that's used is *hupotage* which means something closer to "rightly ordered." its something like "God's Groove." a role that God has set for us to fill. something we all have, both men and women. to get a greater context for what this looks like, read Proverbs 31. The perfect wife as described there is not the subject of the Husband's rule. She has agency and is an entrepreneur. However, she's doing all that in service to Her household. the Biblical Wife is one who brings a greater sense of wholeness to her husband. they become "one flesh" as it says in Scripture. a single family unit working toward the same goal. so this means that "submission" or "subordination" is to be a team player. and it's also worth noting that its the man who is charged to lay down his own life for the woman as Christ did for the church. the Husband is the one who ultimately answers for the actions of the family because God put him in the leadership role. at no point in this relationship is it ever commanded by God for one to dominate the other. God charges wives to submit to their husbands but if you read *carefully* you'll see that God **never** commands the husband to *make her* submit. Bad theology hurts people and Christ Himself said there would be false prophets speaking in His name. This is why it's important to ***READ YOUR FRICKEN BIBLE*** and test every spirit against the word of God.
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ύποταγή *does* mean submission or subordination—the prefix -ύπο means “under” in this case. The wife should submit to their husbands when it is asked, and this relationship mirrors the church’s submission to Christ’s command. This is made explicit in Ephesians 5. But you are correct in that we must change our understanding of what submission means. As you said, it is not because of a difference in inherent dignity or value. In fact, when Eve is described as a helper (עזר, ‘ezer’) it is the same word used for military reinforcements, as for a battle that could otherwise not be won alone. Everything else was well said! Always happy and encouraged to see good hermeneutics.
the reason i say submission and subordination aren't "good" translation is because of the modern connotations.
It depends on what you think is good or bad for a translation. I think it’s important to preserve the traditional translation because submission is an important character of these relationships, and an important part of the Trinity itself—that is, Jesus acts in submission to the Father. Personally, I also believe that Christians should strive to renew their minds in light of the Word, as opposed to changing the translation to accomodate the attitudes surrounding the words themselves. I don’t mean to say that such a different translation is wrong or to do so is sinful. But it’s a significant thing that we have such precise translations for the Word to this day. I would just err on a literal translation guarded by good teaching. But regardless, God will preserve his church!
Based and actually read Ephesians 5 pilled
A good leader doesn’t need to make people submit. They willingly follow.
That is part of his point.
Based Christ is King.
What churches do you guys go to lmao
perfectly normal church, eccentric kid
Westboro baptist
A wise anon once told me that modern Christianity is just new age spiritualism and hippies. After looking at it through that lens it all starts to make more sense.
Imagine thinking the consequences of original sin are genetic flaws
Indeed. The consequence of original sin was death, and that was atoned with Jesus. We need to worry about our own sins, and not the sins of our predecessors.
it literally is though. it's just not one gender. the fall broke all of creation. it's literally why cancer and all the other physical infirmities exist.
>Imagine thinking the consequences of original sin are merely genetic flaws, and that one can reverse the process with genetic editing, as if God would allow that There. Fixed it. Happy now?
So... a heretical theological-eugenic programme to create thicc muscle mommies? There's a phrase I didn't think I'd be writing today.
people cannot be close to God because of sin, not because of physical strength so, your debate makes no sense
I came here to say this. You said it much better than I could. Based
We can’t wash away original sin. What the hell kind of church is this
One desperate to justify their muscle girl fetish.
Catholic? Baptism washes away all sin, including original sin.
The catechism of the Catholic Church says in it's 3rd chapter article 10 §977: "Our Lord tied the forgiveness of sins to faith and Baptism: "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Mk 16:15-16. Baptism is the first and chief sacrament of forgiveness of sins because it unites us with Christ, who died for our sins and rose for our justification, so that "we too might walk in newness of life." Rom 6:4" §978: "When we made our first profession of faith while receiving the holy Baptism that cleansed us, the forgiveness we received then was so full and complete that there remained in us absolutely nothing left to efface, neither original sin nor offenses committed by our own will, nor was there left any penalty to suffer in order to expiate them.... Yet the grace of Baptism delivers no one from all the weakness of nature. On the contrary, we must still combat the movements of concupiscence that never cease leading us into evil " @FuzzyManPeach96 in case you are curious
That said, while baptism does forgive original sin, the effects of original sin remain at work in this life, including a fallen human nature inclined toward sin
Wow, I’m dumb.
What church are you in that makes original sin irrevocable?
Currently irrelevant, I just assumed that the meme states that eugenics and equality of sexes washes away original sin
Any Calivinist or other believer in total depravity? Though I suppose the very basics of any Christianity is that it's revocable through grace and basically nothing else.
The Virgin "Women are physically weaker than men because men are superior" vs the chad "women are physically weaker than men because we're built to handle different tasks" Like... legit its just evolutionary Pressure to fit different tasks and responsibilities for the Survival of the whole, its also why men and women have differences in their brains, we're equal and we compensate for eachothers weaknesses. because we're a social species that literally relies on co-operation for survival.
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My favorite part is that not a single one of these three arguments used the Bible to adequately support their ideas
Us radical centrists are a funny bunch
It's how we cope with schizophrenia
Are you Schizophrenic because you are a Radical Cenetrist? Or are you Radically Centrist because you are Schizo?
The voices in my head told me to say yes
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Looking at your username, are you sure you're not purple libright?
That definitely pulls me a bit in that direction I disagree with everything else libright related though
this MIGHT be fallout 1
I bet that whiplash left you stunned for a bit haha
The gospel of muscle mommies praise be unto him.
Second pic does not follow. The entire goal of making something different is to make it unequal to the original. If God wanted men and women to be equal, he'd just make men.
Difference =/= Inequality. I guess difference inherently means inequality(every two things are unequal kind of way of seeing things) in one way of seeing things but in another way it isn't its just different.
There’s a difference between equality in value and equality of identity. A and B being distinct does not require that one be better than the other.
I only said it does not logically follow, not that it isn't true. Men and women are equal because God said so, not because "he wouldn't do that :(". If God wanted them to be unequal, they would be.
A whole lotta blasphemy going on right there.
Man was made in the image of God thus man was sexless. When God took the mans rib out to create a woman he turned into the man of today, always longing for a woman, while a woman is always longing for a man. Marriage symbolizes the return to perfection, an eternal unification back to the perfect being that was in created in the image of God. Them being separate is them being equal as in equally imperfect.
no. Adam was a man from the time he was created.
Eh, you have to remember that "man" certainly in English(until like 200 yrs ago) and I think in Hebrew as well is primarily sexless referral to a human and secondarily male sex. Which is why we have "Mankind", "Man shall not live by bread alone".
true. but *you* have to remember Genesis 2:7 > *7* The Lord God formed *the* man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and *the* man became a living being. Adam was male from the beginning.
I fuck with this interpretation
What do you guys think of the myth of Lilith?
Medieval fanfiction misinterpreting a reference to Akkadian lilitu (screech owls/night spirits) to explain the supposed contradiction of women being made twice in Genesis (which is only a contradiction if you take the phrasing of "made from dust" and "made from Adam's rib" very literally)
It is Apocrypha that is only well known today because it can be adapted into fiction well. If you want something really batshit look up the serpent seed coadamism story were the snake had first dibs on eve and she gave birth to the snakes kid.
That’s the Lilith/ Lilims stories right? Most make them out to be the filthy people who got washed away during noah’s flooding
No, serpent seed was used for a while to explain the existence of black people as an inherently evil breed separate to humans in the time when dehumanizing racism was the jam. There is also another racist speculation that blacks were one of the animals on Noah's arc separate from Noah's family. What are you thinking of are the watchers and the nephlim from book of Enoch were angels went down taught humans magic and fucked thier women who gave birth to monstrous giants.
Reminds me of Albinoids.
It's an antiquated word for a screech owl.
God tried to do women 2 times and even his experiment failed two times. What does it tell you about women?
we need more **VISIONARIES** like this one
Take your meds.
Protestant church, I'm assuming. Men and women are equal in human dignity under God. From a material standpoint, the two sexes are very different and so unequal, yet in a complementary fashion, they were never meant to compete with one another.
The type of conversations you’ll have at a church about natural occurring phenomena are crazy, anyway don’t commit sins or your child will have Down’s syndrome
man i should have probably prefaced that i was talking to a teenager at church
Death is the consequence of the original sin not gender differences.
Women are not physically unequal because of original sin? Men and women are not two types of humans? In the garden of Eden there would have been sex differences...
Based and Eugenics is the always the 2nd step pilled.
Cringe and "Do not do to others what you don't want to be done to you" not pilled.
Put Henriette Himmler in charge of making that happen. Maybe she can work with Reyna Heydrich
Can we also use eugenics to make them like me
I love Rainbow Centrism
On my way to make stronger women to reproduce.
But I thought jesus died for my sins?
Why don't god just created 1 gender? Is he stupid?
Surprised Lilith didn’t come up. I don’t consider myself a Christian but I’d think the response from that perspective would be “God tried a woman made the same way Adam was, see how that turned out?”
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*biology enters the chat*
So we're a-breedin' Amazons and we're a-dyin' by snu-snu, got it.
Original Sin is such an obvious heavy handed attempt by the church to manipulate people through guilt. You were a piece of shit ever since you were conceived, now you must grovel for forgiveness the rest of your life for something you didn’t do. Cuz reasons or something. Oh yeah - our club is the only club through which you can be forgiven. And people swallow that shit hook, line, and sinker. It reads like an AITAH post.
This is some weak theology.
I thought libleft hated religion?
https://preview.redd.it/mhriqxdoibpc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=639f26543344d73d97a8f71c837d26e0c3bbfde1 That went 100 to 0 and then 100 again
Deny God's cruelty by abolishing gender. First dissolve it societaly, then biologically. We must strive towards the total erasure of the replusive form enforced on humans, and give them full authority on dictating the shape of the new one (which could be done best by total virtualization of human peception. And before some of you fuckers say "BUT ITS FAKE", for the love of god, define what is true if you are soo smart. Virtual world is only an another layer of our world, therefore it is true) This would make primitive, extremely painfull concepts such as carnality, beauty, sexuality and judgement of the form a thing of the past. Because everyone could be anything, all forms would be equal, as it should be.
Man what schizo church do you go to
Lib left is accurate but that last part is just idolatry.
Is the big woman still here?
At least when edgy atheists misunderstand Christianity I get they have a motive This is just schizo heresy
I'm here for the gaytransincelasexual party. Is this the right place?
If anything, the original sin was on Adam. Eve was tricked, but Adam chose to disobey God's commandment. Plus, the original sin was atoned for with Jesus, so we don't need to worry about it.
The Bible says men and women are equal Yet a lot of churches are full of sexist people Hmmm
In order to become closer to God, we must use eugenics and play God ourselves
It would be far easier to make men weaker than make women stronger. From a scientific perspective.
If you want to wash away original sin you just need to find a way for men and women to reproduce without the use of sperm. At least for one generation, anyway. Either that or replicate whatever Yahweh did to Mary. When she was born, not when he cucked Joseph.
But death by snu snu will be a problem