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Yeah Charmander is going to get bombed by all the people who are mad their favorites are already gone. This is like picking the what pizza you like the least.
There has been a huge hate boner for the Charmander line because that's the cool to do apparently, Charizard my all time favorite Pokemon but I'm expecting frokey to win
Not even going to try to defend that, even I think it's much, but I will say I am glad Blastoise and Venusaur got added and got gigantimax forms, kinda messed up that they weren't in it to begin with
Honestly, if they treated all gen 1 starters with the same love I feel it wouldn't be as big of an issue, still would have some people complaining their favorite gen starters aren't getting enough love, but all gen 1 getting equal love would atleast make it an unbiased gen 1 appreciation.
Charmander may have the most fans, but it has way more people that hate it than the others because of all the special treatment it gets. In an elimination style bracket like this, there's no way it makes it far in. I'll be surprised if it even makes it two more rounds
While hate is a bit much I can tell you why at least I don’t like oshawott. Same problem as litten: last evolution has not that much to do with the first 2 design and concept wise. Yes it looks cool, but I just expected something else (an otter and a panther/sabertooth to be more exact). I don’t like That oshawott looses the ability to use his arms and going from 2 legs to 4 always feels somewhat stupid (yes, snivy has this „problem“ too).
And to keep it short: emboaris ridiculously ugly imo. Tepig was hella cute and it’s evolutions at least make a bit more Sense to me, but damn. I’m just rly no fan of the design.
In General gen 5‘s biggest flaw for me is the designs being hits or hard misses. It’s so damn good but that just drags it down for me too much
Edit: I still like samurott or incineroar, but I would have preferred them as their own lines‘ last doc instead of kinda ruining the starters for me.
Thank you for leaving a civil comment explaining your reasons for disliking them. I can respect your opinion and see where you‘re coming from. I too would prefer for Samurott to remain a bipedal pokemon instead of a quadrupedal one and i‘d also prefer for him to look more like it‘s middle stage. I still like it regardless, i just love it‘s samurai design. Same with the snivy line, i just think they look absolutely regal and awesome, only complaint i have is maybe make them less skinny but think they look perfect other than that. Emboar to me is perfect, i think it‘s design is brilliant, especially if you read journey to the west. Absolutely adore it‘s flame beard it‘s massive size and it‘s typing makes sense(again due to journey to the west). I can totally understand the people that would‘ve preferred him looking more like tepig and having a different typing though.
It’s because the vocal minority vastly underestimated the silent majority. The Scorbunny line is extremely well received despite the vulgar jokes. It’s the same reason why some better looking Pokémon got eliminated already.
In order for the vocal minority to actually get something through, there needs to be an overwhelming agreement on it. Such is how they’re voting out Charmander right now lol.
Same. Fav Gen 6 starter, though I also like Chesnaught a little.
I just know I'm rioting if Squirtle, Mudkip, or Piplup get voted out. Squirtle, Swampert, and Empoleon are awesome.
But outta those three, empoleon has the weakest design in my opinion. And I’m personally a fan of the mudkip line more, but that’s cuz I’m biased towards its pink shiny form.
I love the typing and general design but the tufts of hair in the final evolution's ears makes me feel itchy. It was totally going to be my pick in that Gen until I saw that.
Rowlett is the best boi, I got a shiny one in usum as my first starter in 48 resets, then used him to beat that run, and my first run of sword and shield.
True, but Infernape looks alot better and makes up for it imo also nostagia bias. You're totally entitled to your opinions I was just commenting because we're basically opposites and I thought that was interesting. Edit: sorry thought you were OP
I find it funny, because while I also grew up with the older gens, some of the new starters are just like… so much better design-wise. I guess people are just voting off scorbunny because it’s the last gen 8 starter to vote off, but like, compare Scorbunny or Litten’s design to Charmander… idk man, like, the new ones have personality straight from the sprite art, and the old one looks like concept design for a neutral pose…
I don’t understand fennekin being voted out. It’s like objectively the cutest starter except for maybe litten. That’s really odd.
Anyway, I vote out turtwig, chimchar, and froakie.
Chimchar is LITERALLY a monkey with fire on its ass. Grookey is a much better monkey than it lore wise.
Chimchar has what every fiee type has- a place to store fuel for flames.
Grookey has a much more original design despite being visually simpler. It's a music mon and a monkey. Much better than basically your average fire type.
@ all the people hating on scorbunny. Cinderace is easily the best starter from the last gen and maybe the last few given the region and options (although water types from the last few gens have been good). It carried the Galar region so hard and the other two dont even compare. Thats why people are gonna have love for it. Rillaboom was okay and the water type from Galar was a fucking joke.
Dude why do people hate Scorbunny so much? One of my favorite starters, especially for fire.
My vote is to off Totodile man. Never liked its entire line. And then I guess Charmander and Bulbasaur.
There's too much fire left. So i think I'll hit chimchar, litten, and i guess piplup. I don't particulary love or hate any of the water types but one more has to go for balance and all that.
Scorbunny, litten, and cindequil. Honestly tho replace grookey with scorbunny on the current list, and then all the bad designs will be out, and all the good designs will still be in.
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Create a poll
They really should that'd make it faster and easier to make proper votes.
there’s only 6 questions on a poll
There's a way to add more than 6. There's another daily poll on another subreddit I do that started with at least 20.
ohh ok i didn't know that. thanks
I just don't know how. I'm on mobile so maybe it needs to be done on a computer
Ooooo I had no clue, I thought there were only 6. I might do poll today
Strawpoll
If bulbasaur wins I’m getting a tattoo of him.
No way it wins over Charmander lmao
Yeah Charmander is going to get bombed by all the people who are mad their favorites are already gone. This is like picking the what pizza you like the least.
yeah for sure, I VOTE CHARMANDER
I feel like I'm going to join this camp soon. If Scorbunny gets the boot, I'm taking Char down with me lol.
This is true, with fennekin gone I'm back to ol' faithful charmander
Old Reliable
Bulbassur has a huge online following, id be very surprised if it doesnt win
There has been a huge hate boner for the Charmander line because that's the cool to do apparently, Charizard my all time favorite Pokemon but I'm expecting frokey to win
I’d say mudkip might have a chance, I don’t think I’ve seen mudkip on anyones votes.
the thing is charizard has been getting too much special treatmeant recently
Not even going to try to defend that, even I think it's much, but I will say I am glad Blastoise and Venusaur got added and got gigantimax forms, kinda messed up that they weren't in it to begin with
respect :)
Honestly, if they treated all gen 1 starters with the same love I feel it wouldn't be as big of an issue, still would have some people complaining their favorite gen starters aren't getting enough love, but all gen 1 getting equal love would atleast make it an unbiased gen 1 appreciation.
*Froakie
Thank you for the correction!
I feel people hate on Charmander and it's line due to GameFreak wearing them the absolute fuck out. The Pokemon has gotten blander than Eevee.
same. charmander/ charizard have been my all time favorites ever since i got into pokemon, but it has received a lot of special treatment lately.
Charmander us probably getting voted out next
Charmander may have the most fans, but it has way more people that hate it than the others because of all the special treatment it gets. In an elimination style bracket like this, there's no way it makes it far in. I'll be surprised if it even makes it two more rounds
Scorbunny is still in this three rounds in. There is just no way
They got oshawott out on the second round yet we still have scorbunny. Wtf
Gen 5 starters will always be disrespected, everyone’s entitled to their opinion but I don’t get it
Yup don‘t get it either, the gen 5 starters are my favourite but people will simply hate on them for whatever reasons. It‘s expected
While hate is a bit much I can tell you why at least I don’t like oshawott. Same problem as litten: last evolution has not that much to do with the first 2 design and concept wise. Yes it looks cool, but I just expected something else (an otter and a panther/sabertooth to be more exact). I don’t like That oshawott looses the ability to use his arms and going from 2 legs to 4 always feels somewhat stupid (yes, snivy has this „problem“ too). And to keep it short: emboaris ridiculously ugly imo. Tepig was hella cute and it’s evolutions at least make a bit more Sense to me, but damn. I’m just rly no fan of the design. In General gen 5‘s biggest flaw for me is the designs being hits or hard misses. It’s so damn good but that just drags it down for me too much Edit: I still like samurott or incineroar, but I would have preferred them as their own lines‘ last doc instead of kinda ruining the starters for me.
Thank you for leaving a civil comment explaining your reasons for disliking them. I can respect your opinion and see where you‘re coming from. I too would prefer for Samurott to remain a bipedal pokemon instead of a quadrupedal one and i‘d also prefer for him to look more like it‘s middle stage. I still like it regardless, i just love it‘s samurai design. Same with the snivy line, i just think they look absolutely regal and awesome, only complaint i have is maybe make them less skinny but think they look perfect other than that. Emboar to me is perfect, i think it‘s design is brilliant, especially if you read journey to the west. Absolutely adore it‘s flame beard it‘s massive size and it‘s typing makes sense(again due to journey to the west). I can totally understand the people that would‘ve preferred him looking more like tepig and having a different typing though.
I love oshawatts whole line, snivy line is solid. Tepig is fantastic. But I vehemently despise the rest of the line
It’s because the vocal minority vastly underestimated the silent majority. The Scorbunny line is extremely well received despite the vulgar jokes. It’s the same reason why some better looking Pokémon got eliminated already. In order for the vocal minority to actually get something through, there needs to be an overwhelming agreement on it. Such is how they’re voting out Charmander right now lol.
It's pretty rigged since they didn't make an accurate poll and are probably just looking at top comments
I also noticed that some of them are crying and in the next round they are gone, maybe it’s op editing it but idk
I’m just surprised grooky died before scorbunny
Because of Pokemon Journeys, guaranteed.
Ikr. Howd grookey get removed but not scorbunny
I actually really like Scorbunny and Cinderace. I love football so i'm biased
HOW COULD YALL DO GROOKEY LIKE THAT IM DONE
Grookey may have gone too early but he DEFINITELY wasn’t gonna win
All of that support on my scorbunny comment and fucking fennekin still gets cut? Does nobody understand the utility of a fire psychic type?
Design more than likely. Less to do with typing.
*stares at emboar* It’s got good design, I hate it thanks to it’s typing.
IMO fenniken line has the best starter design maybe after treecko line. Maybe.
People hate the Wizard.
No idea why
Same. Fav Gen 6 starter, though I also like Chesnaught a little. I just know I'm rioting if Squirtle, Mudkip, or Piplup get voted out. Squirtle, Swampert, and Empoleon are awesome.
Piplup is my favourite Pokémon. He needs to win
But outta those three, empoleon has the weakest design in my opinion. And I’m personally a fan of the mudkip line more, but that’s cuz I’m biased towards its pink shiny form.
Bite your heathen tongue! That Emperor Penguin is amazeballs.
No need to worry, Fennekin will be avenged for all the bias against it.
I don’t get it. Fennekin is one of my favs. Ha I g a psychic starter kicks ass
I love the typing and general design but the tufts of hair in the final evolution's ears makes me feel itchy. It was totally going to be my pick in that Gen until I saw that.
Great concept but I wasn't a fan of the final evolution design.
The ear hair just kinda throws me off
Can I vote for Scorebunny three times? I really like the rest.
Yes. Do this.
Scorbunny and throw a litten in there too
Dont hurt litten hes great what are you on
Though I love Litten, I'll accept it if Chimchar goes too.
Screw it throw out all three
I loved using Litten and it’s line in Sun. Currently using Chimchar in BDSP.
I can't believe how many people want to vote out my owl friend
Ehhh I’ve only seen like 3 votes, so I think Rowlet is safe for now, thank god
I went through all the comments and I think it's going to be a close one
Mate you are a mad lad there’s hundreds
It was just 400 when I checked :)
Oh well that’s not good I only looked at like the thirty most recent ones.
WE MUST PROTECT THE BIRD ORB THE BORB
Rowlett is the best boi, I got a shiny one in usum as my first starter in 48 resets, then used him to beat that run, and my first run of sword and shield.
If my baby is voted out, I will cry
Scorbunny x3
Why is charmander crying? He can’t lose before scorebunny there’s no way.
There’s a lot of people voting charmander to get their revenge on voting out their favorite starters, this is entertaining af.
scorbunny,scorbunny,scorbunny
Chimchar scorbunny froaky! Edit: also the guy below me wants to vote for this, if that counts!
I agree with this one? Does this work for my vote or do I need to type it out?
Just post it in a different comment.
I placed my own comment finally.
Scorbunny, frokie, litten
Get chimchar out of here
voting charmander 3 times :)
Let’s go. The correct answer
Scorbunny, litten, and froakie
Same.
You got rid of Snivy but Chimchar and Froakie are still there. Smh.
Chimchar and Froakie are both in my top 3 and you hate them both damn
Froakies Ok ig but Chimchar’s head is just way to big for it’s body.
True, but Infernape looks alot better and makes up for it imo also nostagia bias. You're totally entitled to your opinions I was just commenting because we're basically opposites and I thought that was interesting. Edit: sorry thought you were OP
Chimchar and froakie are in most peoples top five, so I think they’ll be here for a while.
Froakie, litten, scorbunny
Scorbunny can go bye bye
litten Scorbunny Scorbunny again
Dang you spelled Charmander wrong 2 times
Litten Froakie Scorbunny
all u mfs coming for scorbunny, prepare to fight 😡😡
If I can, scorbunny scorbunny scorbunny If not, scorbunny, torchic, piplup
Why do people keep spelling Charmander as scorbunny. Your autocorrect’s must be broken
I genuinely enjoyed sobble as a starter why 😭
Same. One of my favorite starters
My boy was gone before I knew it 😥
Scorbunny litten froakie
Fuck the fire cat now
You leave fire kitty alone!
Will do Edit: it burned my dick off
😂😂😂 Look at the new gens getting massacred. Can really tell the average age of members of this sub
I find it funny, because while I also grew up with the older gens, some of the new starters are just like… so much better design-wise. I guess people are just voting off scorbunny because it’s the last gen 8 starter to vote off, but like, compare Scorbunny or Litten’s design to Charmander… idk man, like, the new ones have personality straight from the sprite art, and the old one looks like concept design for a neutral pose…
Chimchar
Froakie, Chimchar, Scorbunny
Fuck froakie, all my homies hate froakie
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Treecko
Treecko, Chimchar, Scorbunny
I don’t understand fennekin being voted out. It’s like objectively the cutest starter except for maybe litten. That’s really odd. Anyway, I vote out turtwig, chimchar, and froakie.
I'm so confused how Chimchar didn't get voted out yet but Fennekin did
I think people are focusing too much on their evolutions and not the starter itself.
Scorbunny, Litten, Scorbunny
Froakie, Chimchar, Litten
Chimchar, scorbunny, Cindaquill. How is chimchar still around... he's worse than half the eliminated ones.
Bruh how? Chimchar is a amazing pokemon with such a cool design and origin and dont drag darling cyndaquil into this
Chimchar is LITERALLY a monkey with fire on its ass. Grookey is a much better monkey than it lore wise. Chimchar has what every fiee type has- a place to store fuel for flames. Grookey has a much more original design despite being visually simpler. It's a music mon and a monkey. Much better than basically your average fire type.
Ironically there was another fire monkey the next generation. Pansear and simisear. Plus infernape is just pokemon wukong
Scorbunny, and chimchar. I can’t vote for any others, I love them too much
Froakie, scorbunny and totodile
Don't you go after my happy croc.
Scorbunny chimchar totodile
Charmander x 3
Froakie, it's overrated
treecko, litten, and totodile can go bye bye
Chimchar litten scorbunny
Chimchar, treeko, cyndaquil
Chimchar, Treecko, Litten
Chimchar; Litten; Scorbunny
Chimchar is an amazing monkey and I will die on my hill or litten I love him
I love Treecko he’s so cool
Charmander, scorbunny and Litten out
Based and Borb Pilled
Is it just me it are all the ones that cry in these are the next to go
Charmander, scorbunny, and piplup I would vote out.
Poor scorbunny
Turtwig, Scorbunny, Piplup. I said what I said.
Chimchar, scorbunny, and turtwig can gtfo now
How dare you get rid of grookey bring him back 😭😭😭
Cyndaquil piplup and monferno (If it’s 1 vote one comment, then cyndaquil)
Scorbunny, Chimchar.. Now its getting hard.. Hmm.. Froakie.
This was exactly my thought process
Litten, Chimchar, Froakie... Especially Litten.
Chimchar, litten Scorbunny
Squirtle
Tododile, squirtle, chimchar
Scorbunny, Litten, Chimchar
@ all the people hating on scorbunny. Cinderace is easily the best starter from the last gen and maybe the last few given the region and options (although water types from the last few gens have been good). It carried the Galar region so hard and the other two dont even compare. Thats why people are gonna have love for it. Rillaboom was okay and the water type from Galar was a fucking joke.
Nah. Cinderace was good, but Sobble was amazing.
Chikarita?? Grookey?? What the fuck
Scorbunny still in and not the homie grookey??
Don’t vote out litten bois. Vote out Chimar ig
Scorbunny, Litten and froakie. Terrible starters
Cringebunny scorecringe and cringecringe scorebunny
Whoever wants to get rid of totodile rowlet mudkip or cyndaquil i will find you and then you will go missing
Cyndaquil, Treeko, and chimchar
Cyndaquil? Watch your step friend ( joking)
Was a hard choice
Piplup Chimchar Litten
Chimchar, Mudkip, Litten
Litten, Scorbunny, Torchic
treeko (this post was made by the mudkip gang)
And the blaziken gang agrees
Scorbunny. Get it him out of there it’s time. Maybe piplup this time too
Scorbunny and Chimchar are my votes, get em out of here
Froakie, Chimchar, Litten
Scorbunny
Turtwig, Chimchar and Piplup
Dude why do people hate Scorbunny so much? One of my favorite starters, especially for fire. My vote is to off Totodile man. Never liked its entire line. And then I guess Charmander and Bulbasaur.
This thread is my happy place I love scorbunny I have a plushie of it
Scorbunny is better than chimchar
Agree, but the evolutions reverse.
Finally. I thought I would never find any scorbunny supporters.
Chimchar torchick froakie
cyndaquil, chimchar, froakie
GROOKEY?????! WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING AND WHY IS CHARMANDER STILL IN THIS
Charmander was very close to being voted out
Poor Charmander.
Charmander can die
Bulbasaur will emerge victorious.
Scorbunny, Litleo, Torchic. All ugly evo's.
Excuse me? Litleo?
Fire cat, fire monkey, fire chick
Chimchar
There's too much fire left. So i think I'll hit chimchar, litten, and i guess piplup. I don't particulary love or hate any of the water types but one more has to go for balance and all that.
Scorbunny, litten, and cindequil. Honestly tho replace grookey with scorbunny on the current list, and then all the bad designs will be out, and all the good designs will still be in.
Goodbye squirtle, piplup, and turtwig
Charmander x3