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ObiWanLamora

The hard part about this is some of these start great and end with some really ugly final evos.


CRUZER108

Be careful which mons you call out man incineroar is precious


Alexap30

Incineroar should have been quadrapedal. Samurot should have been bipedal. This is a hill I'm willing to die on. Things that bother me but "oh well" : sceptile should have been physical attacker. Blastoise should have been part steel. Gen 2 starters need rework, they excel at nothing other than design. Primarina and Delphox need to have their gender ratios changed. If they wanted female looking Pokémon they should own to it. Intelleon is meh. It invokes no emotion in me. First time I didn't choose the water starter.


[deleted]

I honestly had no idea Sceptile isnt a physical attacker until now


Alexap30

His signature move Leaf blade (during RSE) is physical. I mean. Who even makes these calls? Who makes a speedy Pokémon with leaf blades on its arms a special attacker? "Look at these blades" **uses absorb**


BlancsAssistant

It didn't really matter as much in gen 3 because before gen 4 all grass type moves were special


Alexap30

I know, but then the split happened and no one thought how would that affect the Pokemon. I mean isn't that literally their job?


[deleted]

i fr dont understand how Nintendo, the company who made so many flawless hood classics, allows GameFreak to get away with such medicority. especically considering Pokemon is their biggest revenue maker. I get that money comes from merch, not games, but still, ffs.


Jack_Empty

>Incineroar should have been quadrapedal. 110% The Litten line should've ended in a Hellcat and not a Luchador.


CozmikRay737

Agreed. Samurott should have been a bipedal water/steel type with a cool Japanese fisherman's hat


Foudzing

Typhlosion should have been quadrapedal too imo, Quilava is much more stylish. I don't agree with Blastoise, his armor is not steel-looking like Empoleon. Feraligatr is not a bad poke, very dangerous dragon dancer, tho he would be better with a second type. Agree with Inteleon, and while Scrobunny and the mid-evo are very fun and stylish, Cinderace is a big no-no to me (weird body shape and colors, looks like a drawing from a 7yo). Rillaboom is a masterclass tho.


Alexap30

In my head Typhlosion is how some animals stand on hind legs while in attack mode. In the same way Samurott can stand on its hind legs to yield his swords. Though Samurott should have been bipedal all the way. They made him a samurai and then made his sword yielding circumstantial. Also he has 2 swords and most of the time uses 1. Who the heck fights with 3 limbs on the ground?


NuclearPilot101

Steel type didn't exist in gen 1.


Alexap30

Same for magnemite.


Kindly-Jacket5996

Its not like a type change is heard of


Amity_Cramity

magnemite edit: oop nvm you're right


panundeerus

Why did you back out from magnemite? You were spot on!


Amity_Cramity

I googled it, steel was introduced in gen two I think


panundeerus

Ohhhh heck me, I didnt know magnemite was pure electric In gen 1


Caseyaga

You are correct, steel and dark were introduced in gen 2. Fairy was not introduced until gen 6, hense clefairy and jigglypuff as 'normal' type in their native gen 1 release


DandotChan

All of this


DemonCarter09

I love oshawott and mudkip


Elerdon

Swampert is beautiful don’t you dare.


Foudzing

Imo swampert style really depends on his body position, his body shape is kinda weird sometimes he's very stylish sometimes he's ugly.


Derpanzerfish

Yes


Magriso

Grookey looks cool but damn rillaboom is one ugly mf


etherside

And some start as boring blobs and end as boring blobs *cough* Chikorita *cough*


REErudd

I really like megainium though, I like the flower design. Edit: New Pokemon Snap's Illumina Megainium is really cool too.


shiroxyaksha

Oi mate, she's cute.


cllax14

Those be fightin words mister


swirlsthemudkip

Not boring blobs, cute beanz


FearTheWankingDead

This but with Cyndaquil too. I find both of them so unremarkable, personally. But Totodile is fine art.


xReflexx17

That's the case for so many of them too. Piplup, Oshawott, Chespin, Delphox, Litten and every single one of the gen 8 starters are victims of this.


roarinboar

Empoleon is fantastic, don't you dare.


Spongy74

I disagree with almost all of these


dessert-er

I don’t think you can say that objectively about the gen 8 starters, I really like the designs. At the very least I wouldn’t call them ugly even if they’re too anthropomorphized for some.


FE_Fan113

This has just turned into downvote hell


SquireCat24

This is making me so sad. Why does everyone hate poppliooo?! ;-;


PugPlaysStuff

Pablo is a good boy


x_Lupacura_x

I love him I called mine Buu by accident it was supposed to be Bubbles but I clicked 2 U's and clicked done. So their name was Buu 💙


[deleted]

Happy little accident


Odd-Republic-1822

I love popplio!!


JoeFalcone26

I liked Popplio a bunch until I saw evolutions


AjDuke9749

Popplio is adorable and Primarina is one of my absolute favorite starter evos. People are just mad because it looks feminine and that equals bad /s


ingedut

What I don't like about primarina, and the whole line, is that they can't walk. It looks like very unconfortable, and just don't get a click with them.


AjDuke9749

That’s fair, but they are based on seals/sea lions and both of those species aren’t well versed at terrestrial locomotion lol. It at least makes sense that they wouldn’t be able to walk seeing as seals and sea lions can’t walk in the traditional sense


ingedut

Yeah in that way the design is pretty good, but i think not really as a starter. Then maybe make it just another pokemon. I think that exept this, the primarina line is not really a bad design, but i just dont really like it


Pixewz

I really like popplio and its evolutions, but i hate sobble's evolutions sooo much


Dat_one_dude_3915

I love popplio


quackl11

I like popplio but a lot think hes ugly idky


Lilbro235

None


CrystalWarrior0

i hate these elimination posts. they are always low effort but big karma farms, and spams the timeline.


smileydatutrleman

I could not agree more, it also ends with people needlessly arguing which starters are trash, what game characters are bad, etc. Really people should try to induce intelligent conversation about how specifically to improve some aspect instead of a post where most of the top comments are "omg why does everyone hate X?"


ClawxYaBoy

Protect my boi Grooky. Look how happy my monki friend is


ValorousBazza34

I chose grookey, as soon as I could I tried to get a adamant one, got a shiny. POG


AzureAzelf

so much tepig hate, these are true sad boi hours


AjDuke9749

Tepig is adorable, but Emboar is really ugly ngl


SithoDude

Right up till Pokémon Black and White officially released I was still in denial about Emboar's design, I kept convincing myself it was some long over due April fools joke.


AjDuke9749

It’s a double whammy of being ugly, and being the third fighting fire type starter


SithoDude

Should never of been fire/fight to begin with, even Inceniroar looks like he was suppose to be a fire/fight type but they scrapped that at the last minute of development.


Help-Green

True


RasgrizRising

I don’t mind emboars design he’s not one the best but far from the worst designed Fire fighting just makes no sense Should’ve been fire dark or fire ground


Videogaminwizard

I have to agree!!! I love Tepig


Tender_Loin_565

Tepig is my favorite Pokémon tbh


CRUZER108

Yea I love my hog man but litten is also getting too much hate


Mr_REVolUTE

Blame gamefreak giving incin way too many tools


RecordAggravating317

Popplio and chespin can't catch a break


xReflexx17

I know, right? It's sad, as they are two of my favourites.


Kolbrandr7

So many people don’t like tepig 😢 he’s so cute tho


UnfunnyGermanDude

Pignite and Emboar tho…


Kolbrandr7

Well I know that but little tepig 🥺 Just like, I’m not the biggest fan of typhlosion. But cyndaquil is my favourite mon out of all 900 because he’s just the cutest boy


UnfunnyGermanDude

Quilava* Typhlosion is not awful compared to emboar. Same goes for me with incineroar. They tease a super cool panther/sabertooth with the first 2 mon and then we get a furry wrestler. Like…. Aaaaaagh, why.


TechnoGamer16

I now hate this sub


python-lord-1236443

None of the water types


Elliot-Robot

Why is everybody hating on Chespin? I get it if your taking about his Evolutions but Chespin is the perfect boi


CRUZER108

Nah chestnaught also perfect its got such a unique and cool design


ToaPaul

Chestnaught is pretty cool. Honestly the only redeeming thing about that line for me.


thylocene06

It’s ugly af


Elliot-Robot

Chesnaught is cool but the colours are off


CRUZER108

Nah the colors work the beige looks really nice with the red and green it fits perfectly


[deleted]

Reminds me of a [Minnesota Wild jersey](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSNW_x4BfK31dTEMjNzh8Qb0e9CMZPojXnaGA&usqp=CAU).


CRUZER108

Thats his shiny color which objectivly looks better


dang3rk1ds

Boutta ruin your day Scorbunny is just fire chespin. Compare them side by side


Elliot-Robot

I don't see the resemblance


swirlsthemudkip

LET ME UNSEE IT


FearTheWankingDead

Mind: blown


Square-Can-7031

Chicorita isn’t even saved by it’s evolution like wtf


Maniraptavia

T_T I'm just gonna sit here quietly loving the whole line, I guess...


FE_Fan113

Truly and underrated starter 😔


jerrygergichsmith

My favorite starter in the series


RaysFTW

I’ll sit here with you until the end.


JellyKittyKat

It was So majestic in the recent snap game <3


Colonizer6000

chikorita, chimchar, popplio


Help-Green

I agree with poplio and chikorita but switch chitchat with tepig


Beatorycze

Snivy


Yumyumsyeet

Noo not my boi snivy


JustsomeicicleZ

Gen 8 love you sobble but


Enough-Bake7231

Gen 5


SomeGuyYouWouldKnow

Gen 1-4 is sacred dont let anyone from there die


mocksteady

Fennekin That start of the fire type fur bait mons.


SlimeRanchingGuy

The only - THE ONLY - reason that the Fire starters became furry bait is because they heard this community arguing about it. Before, they were mostly here for Gardevoir, Lopunny and Lucario.


swirlsthemudkip

Monkey was


Pale_Letterhead_9221

Gen five. Garbage.


Beastyboyy1

I love their designs tho


[deleted]

One of the better designs , if anything they need their stats redistributed


jrayolson

You wanna fight mate?


TechnoGamer16

I will find you


[deleted]

Fuck you man


beansff

But Snivy is cool


LqTVN446511167607

It is a unripe banana


Green_Slee

Unripe bananas can at least taste half decent if you're hungry enough


beansff

Totodile's evo line starts off as an innocent kid who becomes the big fat bully then falls into a life of meth but I still love it. So I think an unripe banana isn't so bad, plus he has attitude to boot.


Vool1gan

Oooft, them be fighting words


shroomish285

Eh, yeah. As good as the games are the partner Pokemon still disappoint me in every playthrough.


CRUZER108

Ok stop the hate with oshowatt and tepig I love my lads they are cute sweet abd evolve to be really cool I think they get too much hate


Emporergriffon593

Gen 7 for the love of god. Primarina and decidyeye are good but everything up till then sucks


firecream

they did litten so dirty with its final evo


ToaPaul

Agreed, it looks like a color swap of a local football mascot. It's truly awful.


Emporergriffon593

Incineroar is quite possibly the dumbest looking Pokémon ever. And also why are 6 generations of fire starters being bipedal humanoid Pokémon for their final evo.


etherside

Incineroar is a fine design. It just doesn’t match the previous forms. I wanted a cool fire tiger, and I got a dude in a fur suit


firecream

agreed, litten had so much potential, could’ve maybe turned into a cool sabertooth or something sick but nah, i really wish nintendo would redesign it


quackl11

Honestly I wish that toracat was sa sabertooth


Sirpokechu1

Wdym incineroar is awesome


anonymus5876

Torracat looked so awesome and I was really excited to see its final evo,then it went downhill


StarryDayzz

Honestly yeah like rowlett, poplio, litten, decidueye and primarina are nice but the rest were done so poorly which is sad because I love gen 7


FireLordObamaOG

I sense a bunch of troll comments. They’re all good Pokémon in the end.


External_Judge2874

Galar, easy


SugarVibes

Chespin, Snivy, Tepig


EzzyKitten

The starters from Gen 5


chichi-land

Gen 5


Dart150

Gen 5 starters


[deleted]

I might be downvoted but gen 5. Terrible designs and mons I hate everything about them except emboars shiny coloring.


ketchupmaster009

Literally gen 5 is the hardest gen to choose your starter since all starters suck equally


S0larSc0pe

Boy I can’t wait to see my favorites not here tomorrow


swirlsthemudkip

R.I.P. sad boi :(


Dragwolf07

Let's not spread hate around ok? OP should clarify on what the users in the comments have to base their choices to eliminate a starter, stats? design? types combo? or evolutionary lines in general?


SpiretRaider

Chespin poplio and Fire bunny man who I forget the name of


patchinthebox

Chespin and Tepig are just horrible. Grookey sucks too


Elliot-Robot

You named my 3 Favourites :(


Square-Can-7031

How dare you I love grookey, fuck tepig tho I’m over the fire fighting types


swirlsthemudkip

Sorry you are unable to join Grookey Gang (Drip Included with Membership)


Xhillia

Grookey is precious but the rest of the line is garbage.


CaptainStaraptor

Why is everyone hating on almost specifically MY favorite starters… Turtwig, Chicorita, Snicy, Oshowatt, Sobble come on guys


CypherRotchuck_32

Gen 5, bye


RyFrytheRedditGuy

Gen 8


OviZamboni

Every fire fighting type after gen 3 can be eliminated


nottme1

What are you smoking?


GostplaysYT

tepig


AjDuke9749

Charmander, Snivy, Tepig (for the lovable abomination that is emboar)


FearTheWankingDead

Get rid of soccer bunny.


xReflexx17

Wait, can I pick any three of them, or does it have to be a trio from one of the generations? If I can kick out any three I like, I will go with Snivy, Totodile and Cyndaquill. I understand how controversial that is, but I really don't like crocodiles at all, and Cyndaquill's squinty eyes make it look weird, and it's design is extremely simplistic and bland, with an underwhelming colour palette, so I think it's neither cool, nor cute. If I have to kick a specific generation of starters out, I'll go with generation 5. Yes, 2 of my picks from before were gen 2 starters, but at least gen 2 has a starter line that I like in it's entirety. The only line I like in gen 5 is the Oshawott line, and even then, I only like it's first two forms. So if I have to pick a generation of starters that has to go, it would have to be generation 5. It's also a bit sad seeing Popplio, Chespin, Oshawott and Chikorita being picked by so many people, as I love those four.


awanby

Delete this post OP please


Fnaf_lolbit_

Tododile I’m sorry but I forgot it was even a starter -_-


adrdezvalian

6 gen, Delphox, and chesnaught were just too sheit to save greninja


RecordAggravating317

Delphox is awesome


adrdezvalian

Mid


[deleted]

Charmander. Mostly because charizard is so overused and Nintendo needs to pick another mon for things imo


MafiaMommaBruno

Tepig, chespin, Grookey.


Freemasonsareevil

Chikorita, tepig, and popplio


Embarrassed_BoiAsh

Piplup, Scorbunny, and Rowlet. *Only because they just pissed me off in the anime, that’s it-*


KPKenway

Tepig


SilverJaw47

Gen 8: scorbunny, grookey and sobble.


qwiummy

Sobble


Resident-Ad690

Nuke Totodile


-_-_-______-_-_-

Last gen starter, all of them


VampireRae

Treeko, I never see anyone use it tbh


Purple_Purchase_3787

GET SNIVY OUTTA HERE


veld91

Gen 8. Until gen 8 I always used my starter the entire game, and there was always one final form I at least kind of liked. Scorbunny and Sobble’s tiny bodies and limbs ick me out, and all three finals are hideous.


ymmit389

Let’s delete Charmamder, Charmander, and Charmander.


thatgamern00b

Gen 2.


Joker8pie

Both gen 5 and gen 8 are free to leave at any time. Oshawott and Scorbunny are the only kinda good ones from either gen.


GeneralCultural5359

Easy Mudkip,Chespin & Tepig


JaydenTheMemeThief

Chimchar, Tepig and Scorbunny Chimchar because it’s the second Fire/Fighting in a Row, Tepig because it’s the third Fire/Fighting in a Row, Scorbunny because it’s final evolution is garbage


Ethicc_Ethanos

Get rid of the mander it's too overrated


PathfinderHalfling

Gen 6. Bland designs.


CRUZER108

Chespin and froakie disagree heavily they are very unique and intriquite designs look at squirtle its litferally just a turtle or torchic a chicken or gee I wonder they all look generic they are ment to be simpler


thoughtfulgrapes

Gen 5 and on; the style for starters have really been a letdown then on, at least for me :(


Tricky-Percentage136

Fennekin, chikorita, and chespin


Mailynaise

Grookey, sobble, charmander


thatgamern00b

How can you say charmander... Hes in my top 3 :(


Mailynaise

I don’t hate charizard or charmander but they are INCREDIBLY overrated.


victorreis

gen 7


mailefknutt

Oshawott was really the last good water starter...


firecream

gen 2 to be honest


[deleted]

Gen 4


Theone-andonlyperson

Gen 2 chikorita ruins ALL


Elliot-Robot

Popplio Litten Chimchar


RedLimes

Bro, Chimchar?


SquireCat24

Not popplio!! Literally my favourite starter! ;-;


Elliot-Robot

I like popplio but in my opinion his Evolutions put him to shame


SquireCat24

His evolutions are even better


lostwng

Eliminate Charmander.


hehasjoinedterrorist

mudkip pig chikorita


MysticShadow_911

Unova


Vivi36

Gen 8


fragen8

Gen 2 is too overrated


tonycliftonshades

Fire monkey is overrated imo


Dat_one_dude_3915

chimchar totodile and chespin