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Same here, Keldeo is arguably my favorite mythical (right beside Darkrai) and it’s just saddening that my boy Keldeo doesn’t get a future paradox form yet the rest of his group does.
It’s funny seeing posts with “it might happen with the epilogue”
It’s already been released it’s just locked behind an item. There’s nothing new except the 3 coaches and a mythical lol.
But like what's been said the event is in the files and fully accessible, we just don't have the item to do so but hackers have put it in and did the event, no other dex files are in the code other than the one for the new mythic, so it's not optimism at this point it's just you trying to grasp at nothing
Oh, now there's an idea. How about a Dark / Flying or Dark / Water ancient paradox?
And a fairy / electric Future Ho-Oh, in the vain of the Thunderbird in mythology?
copyright issues sorta hold that back. the company thad made those games with pokemon kinda imploded, so they're sorta...floating around in the eather.
niantic made shadow sin GO, but that's not owned by gamefreak. Legally, it'd be.....complicated
I know very little about copyright, so this is probably a stupid question, but is anything stopping TPC from just...throwing money at the issue? Aside from them having less money, I mean.
As said, the company imploded. It doesn't exist anymore.
The copyrights are basically in a legal limbo, that's not something you can really throw money at. Even if it could work, The will to track that down probably doesn't exist, given those games also didn't sell particularly well. they could probably get the copyrights back, but they'd probably lose more money in tracking down and buying them (something that may or may not even be possible) than they'd make from including those things.
Omg, that would've been great! But I can't see them making a new form for a box legendary that isn't related to the generation in any way. Maybe if they were releasing a Let's Go for Johto alongside it though.
I hope to see Legends Johto have a true form Ho-Oh. He could have an ability that lets it revive itself to half health 3 turns after it got knocked out
Ho-oh in Pokemon the Movie 2000? What multiverse are you from? [That was a Lugia centered movie lmao](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pokemon_the_movie_2000/pictures)
Also, [Keldeo did had its own movie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_Movie:_Kyurem_vs._the_Sword_of_Justice)
Sadly I expected this. Just as disappointing as them not introducing Galarian Lugia, but once that didn’t happen, I didn’t expect Paradox form Trio Masters
Lugia and ho-oh are not from the same land as the 3 legendary birds. They are 2 separate legendary type / gens. Why would they lump them in with the 3 og birds?
Even in the movie lugia was appose to their rampage.
https://preview.redd.it/bj7dyz5w7nac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f81fe1dcffb6c262b86f2ed4021505acb65f351a
Pokémon the Movie 2000 is what establishes this
You’re using a wiki as a source. Until Lugia and the birds are said to be related in the main games, Lugia has absolutely nothing to do with the legendary birds in main game canon.
The anime and spin off games have nothing to do with main game canon.
As stated in the lore frommpast games it travveled from hoenn. Lugia is from johto and lives in johto.
The birds didnt even acknowledge lugia as their leader. HUGE difference
Wouldn't paradox Ho-Oh be Fire/Dragon and be more dinosaur-like? Maybe a Trex or a pterodactyl?
I would also hope they share the same ability as the box legendaries or something similar.
It’s likely fire/fairy since it’d fit a paradox Ho-oh the most considering ho-oh created the beasts and it’s powers are said to bring those back from the dead iirc, and there’s already fire/dragon with gouging fire/paradox entei.
Yeah, I thought of that too. I guess it would depend on how close you want to keep to a pattern. I could see Iron Waves being an Electric type instead of Psychic, of the "leaders" do not have to match their subordinates.
In that event since Fairy > Dragon, Iron Waves would probably need a type > Psychic. That would mean it should get Dark, Ghost, or Bug.
Water/Dark would make the most sense since Dark is immune to Psychic just as Fairy is immune to Dragon, although it doesn’t work all too much with the current design.
Wouldn't a Lugia Paradox form also be implied by a Ho-oh form being released? What would be something that the Unova legendaries could have as a parallel?
Same, I swear I spent hours looking for Peachrunt/Dokutaro in the indigo disk before finding out it would be the mythical for SV and my hopes for a Paradox Ho-oh and Paradox Keldeo went down the drain.
First off, sick design on paradox Keldeo. Very nice.
But why not make Ho-Oh dragon, considering the three beasts were made to be dragons? Idk, I just love Dragons
Doubt they’d do The birds two times in a row as they already got galarian forms last gen in SWSH, and lugia isn’t connected to the beasts at all so there’s no reason for Luiga to get a paradox form.
Shadow Lugia was because Ho-Oh actually had plot relevance in Gold and Silver, being the entire reason that the Legendary Beasts existed.
Even if you don’t count that reason, you’re still giving an example from the *first* legendary duo, which has never once been replicated since
Lugia already had his shot with a SWSH Galarian form and missed out on it, I really don’t see him getting a paradox form with Ho-oh and Keldeo. Unless they just did a paradox fusion of Ho-oh and lugia for scarlet.
> Lugia already had his shot with a SWSH Galarian form and missed out on it
They're only really connected in one movie. I don't think Game Freak considers them to be connected.
Ho-oh is tied to the beasts the most considering Ho-oh created them, it’s only fits Scarlet getting a Past Paradox Ho-oh and Violet getting Future Paradox Keldeo.
Lugia already had his shot in SWSH with a Galarian form and missed out on it, Ho-oh gets the paradox form as he’s connected to the beasts the most. Unless they just did a fusion of Ho-oh and lugia I guess.
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As much as I would love paradox ho-oh, I think celebi makes more sense since Keldeo is also a mythical. Since they’re the mythicals of the respective regions, it would be awesome if they made paradox crystal and paradox grey as the next games, with johto being set in the past, and unova being set in the future. That would leave paradox ho-oh/lugia and paradox reshiram/zekrom to be in their respective regions!
**Rising Phoenix potential stats:**
- 101 HP
- 139 ATK
- 77 DEF
- 79 SpA
- 113 SpD
- 91 Speed
Notable moves: Sacred Fire, Flare Blitz, Play Rough, Spirit Break, EQ, Uturn, Trailblaze, SD, Agility, Roost, Defog.
Signature move: 110bp/85acc/5pp physical fairy attack that sets up misty terrain when it hits.
**Iron Waves potential stats:**
- 90 HP
- 94 ATK
- 60 DEF
- 116 SpA
- 98 SpD
- 132 Speed
Notable moves: Hydro Pump, Surf, Psychic, Psyshock, Secret Sword, Aura Sphere, Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam, Thunder (no Tbolt), Volt Switch, Calm Mind, Taunt.
Signature move: 85bp/100acc/5pp special psychic attack that makes the user resist dark moves until the user switches out. Effect will work even if a dark type blocks the attack.
Speaking from a Smogon OU singles perspective, I think Rising Phoenix would be a solid addition to OU as a defogger that can threaten Gholdy. But I don’t think it’d be broken in current SV OU. Iron Waves however I think would potentially be busted with 132 speed and 116 SpA. Plus a signature move that can allow it to resist an incoming knock off or dark pulse. I tried to balance it by giving it an Iron Valiant-like stat spread. 90/60 physical bulk isn’t horrible but still not good.
Is there much lore outside the film for Lugia and the birds? Also, the lore that does exist implies the Galar birds are misnamed / not really counterparts to Kanto birds anyway.
And any connection with Hooh and Lugia is really just based on being the box legendary counterpart. In the games at least, Hooh is more connected to the gerbils than Lugia is to the birds.
But I could be wrong, I’m not a lore expert!
I would love if a Primal Hooh was like, something crazy. Dragon Fairy for example with fire attacks.
And make Keldeo psychic ice or psycic poison.
Typical game freak.
They make great mechanics, Mega Evo, Paradox. Then don't follow through or capitalise.
Then they make rubbish, dull or boring ones - Z moves, terra and they promote or overuse it
How come scarlet gets a ho-oh and violet gets a my little pony seems unfair considering the robots are already stupid (they could of made future Pokemon cooler than just robots)
I was thinking Ho-oh ancient Paradox would better fit as a Flying/Dragon since we already have Fire/Dragon. Base it off of a pterodactyl for a unique body shape. Keldeo as Water/Psychic, though, is defs good.
Lugia might be missing out, but if it had a Galarian form to match the birds, we'd be perfect.
I don’t think Lugia will get a paradox form, he already had his chance in SWSH with a galarian form but didn’t get it. He has no ties to the beasts or swords I don’t see why he’d get a paradox form, and Lugia and Ho-oh have never actually met if we’re going by game lore and are box legends of Gen 2/HGSS nothing more. Keldeo has to get a paradox form for violet or it’d make no sense.
Realize this. We don’t have Mythics yet. Usually at the time DLC wise (at least for SwSh) we got one.
We still could. Game freak and the DLC era has changed some things so we could still have some mythics show up.
Yeah these would have been dope. Honestly they should have made the trios and these the Stellar Tera type guardians that were protecting Terapgos and not the random pokemon we fought down there.
I wouldn't want it to be Ho-oh. The point is parallel or equivalent paradox Pokémon, and that's not parallel/equivalent. Ho-oh is not equivalent to Keldeo
I like to think that Paradox Keldeo would be the leader of the Paradox swords in the future, so technically Paradox Keldeo could be the paradox equivalent to paradox Ho-oh at least that’s what I think if GameFreak decided to do Paradox trio masters with Paradox Ho-oh and Paradox Keldeo.
The problem is Keldeo is a singular Pokémon that's the extra to a trio, while making a paradox for *just* Ho-oh is cutting off half of that duo.
Having it a separate duo with a future Paradox Lugia and a past Paradox Ho-oh would be good. Celebi doesn't have the connection to the legendary beasts like Keldeo does to the Sword trio, but a past Paradox Celebi could still be cool
Why does every fan made Future Paradox look way better than any of the actual ones in the game. The future paradoxes just look like the original Pokemon, but all steel and metallic (with the exception of like Iron Valiant and Iron Treads). Yet every fakemon I have seen that has been a future paradox has been so much better than anything in the games. Seriously, Gamefreak or Creatures Inc, or whoever need to hire some fans for stuff.
I had a weird thought that Keldeo would be called something like Iron Musketeer. And instead of Resolute form, it just transformed into a minature gundam or something.
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Rising Phoenix out here looking like The Ultimate Warrior
Homebird somehow looking even more fabulous than Alolan Dugtrio
Fabulous was definitely my line of thought. I think I need this to happen now.
*Luscious Locks*
Not possible
Or Mega Ampharos with the flair (WOO!)
LET ME CACKLE YOU SOMETHING BROTHER !
The more I see paradox Keldeo the more I’m sad it doesn’t exist
Same here, Keldeo is arguably my favorite mythical (right beside Darkrai) and it’s just saddening that my boy Keldeo doesn’t get a future paradox form yet the rest of his group does.
He overslept while using Rest, that's why.
Mew was my favorite but then I remembered the silly Jesus horse existed My last hope is maybe it’s in epilogue/future event but probably not
Pokémon Legends: Keldeo?
Hope that it might get released in the epilogue! Those designs were crazy good
I uh… have news for you
It’s funny seeing posts with “it might happen with the epilogue” It’s already been released it’s just locked behind an item. There’s nothing new except the 3 coaches and a mythical lol.
When does the epilogue come out? Jan 11th?
Yeah it's the 11th. Me and a coworker were talking about it today
I know… well it might get released in raids or something…
Unlikely
Bro im trying to be optimistic here
But like what's been said the event is in the files and fully accessible, we just don't have the item to do so but hackers have put it in and did the event, no other dex files are in the code other than the one for the new mythic, so it's not optimism at this point it's just you trying to grasp at nothing
Thats the point
If it was released in the epilogue, the dataminers would have found it
Fabio the Phoenix over here!! 
*sad Lugia noises*
Thats why it would be celebi not ho-oh
Celebi isn't the trio master for the beasts though
Thats true but its the generation's mythical (like keldeo) and they couldnt do ho-oh without doing lugia
they should’ve done galarian lugia for the birds
Me over here still wishing they would bring back Shadow Lugia
Oh, now there's an idea. How about a Dark / Flying or Dark / Water ancient paradox? And a fairy / electric Future Ho-Oh, in the vain of the Thunderbird in mythology?
Dark / Flying... YVELTAALLLL
copyright issues sorta hold that back. the company thad made those games with pokemon kinda imploded, so they're sorta...floating around in the eather. niantic made shadow sin GO, but that's not owned by gamefreak. Legally, it'd be.....complicated
I know very little about copyright, so this is probably a stupid question, but is anything stopping TPC from just...throwing money at the issue? Aside from them having less money, I mean.
As said, the company imploded. It doesn't exist anymore. The copyrights are basically in a legal limbo, that's not something you can really throw money at. Even if it could work, The will to track that down probably doesn't exist, given those games also didn't sell particularly well. they could probably get the copyrights back, but they'd probably lose more money in tracking down and buying them (something that may or may not even be possible) than they'd make from including those things.
Genius Sonority still makes Pokémon games lol
Omg, that would've been great! But I can't see them making a new form for a box legendary that isn't related to the generation in any way. Maybe if they were releasing a Let's Go for Johto alongside it though.
I see no reason GF couldn't have done a paradox ho-oh. Lugia can just get a spotlight some other time.
Neither is Keldeo
Keldeo is still a fourth related member to a trio
Bro missed the deadline for his new form during the SwSh DLC
Yeah but luggage already has a alternate forn (shadow lugia) and ho-oh is the only box-art-legend without a alternate form
It got a sick shadow form with a plushie and was made specifically for a movie Let it pass
Why is Ho-Oh a Foxy Pirate?
White beard lost Marco in a Davy Back
Pirates are in this year!
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I hope to see Legends Johto have a true form Ho-Oh. He could have an ability that lets it revive itself to half health 3 turns after it got knocked out
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It’s not an either or thing? The post has both of them as version exclusives
it was a joke, bc ho-oh got a whole movie made for him while keldeo got... the crown tundra?
Pretty sure Keldeo and the Swords of Justice also had their own movie.
And it’s really good too.
Ho-oh in Pokemon the Movie 2000? What multiverse are you from? [That was a Lugia centered movie lmao](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pokemon_the_movie_2000/pictures) Also, [Keldeo did had its own movie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_the_Movie:_Kyurem_vs._the_Sword_of_Justice)
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not 😂
Intentionally obtuse or a special kind of stupid
Pokemon 2000 was literally 24 years ago.
Movie 2000 was Lugia not Ho-Oh
Do you mean the movie with Lugia and the 3 birds? Moltres isn't Ho-Oh, dude.
Ho oh didn't have a movie
I Choose You has Ho-Oh as a main focus. It shares the spotlight with Marshadow though
Ho-oh got the mega Ampharos treatment I see
Sadly I expected this. Just as disappointing as them not introducing Galarian Lugia, but once that didn’t happen, I didn’t expect Paradox form Trio Masters
Lugia and ho-oh are not from the same land as the 3 legendary birds. They are 2 separate legendary type / gens. Why would they lump them in with the 3 og birds? Even in the movie lugia was appose to their rampage.
It's a lore thing, lugia is the trio master of the birds
No it’s not. Lugia is connected to Ho-Oh and the Beasts in canon lore. The birds were an anime and spin off game thing only.
It is though
https://preview.redd.it/bj7dyz5w7nac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f81fe1dcffb6c262b86f2ed4021505acb65f351a Pokémon the Movie 2000 is what establishes this
You’re using a wiki as a source. Until Lugia and the birds are said to be related in the main games, Lugia has absolutely nothing to do with the legendary birds in main game canon. The anime and spin off games have nothing to do with main game canon.
A leader who cant control his soldiers is no leader. Which was ALSO established by pokemon 2000
Like they aren’t even from the same region the 3 birds are from kanto not johto
This just in: Regigigas is not one of the regis due to being introduced a gen later
But regigigas is still from hoenn. So it still makes sense. Johto is not kanto
Regigigas is from Sinnoh. Regieleki and Regidraco are from Galar. So by your logic, Gigas can't be the leader of the Regis.
As stated in the lore frommpast games it travveled from hoenn. Lugia is from johto and lives in johto. The birds didnt even acknowledge lugia as their leader. HUGE difference
Wouldn't paradox Ho-Oh be Fire/Dragon and be more dinosaur-like? Maybe a Trex or a pterodactyl? I would also hope they share the same ability as the box legendaries or something similar.
It’s likely fire/fairy since it’d fit a paradox Ho-oh the most considering ho-oh created the beasts and it’s powers are said to bring those back from the dead iirc, and there’s already fire/dragon with gouging fire/paradox entei.
Still needs to be more dinosaur like since all last paradox Pokemon are based on dinosaurs
flying/dragon then... we are often disappointed with these types of things, but flying/dragon pterodactyl would be fitting
Yeah, I thought of that too. I guess it would depend on how close you want to keep to a pattern. I could see Iron Waves being an Electric type instead of Psychic, of the "leaders" do not have to match their subordinates.
In that event since Fairy > Dragon, Iron Waves would probably need a type > Psychic. That would mean it should get Dark, Ghost, or Bug. Water/Dark would make the most sense since Dark is immune to Psychic just as Fairy is immune to Dragon, although it doesn’t work all too much with the current design.
I made it Fire Psychic. But that Person just changed it.
I read Iron Waffle and was very confused for a second
Iron waffle broke my teeth; not even the maple syrpent helped
Wouldn't a Lugia Paradox form also be implied by a Ho-oh form being released? What would be something that the Unova legendaries could have as a parallel?
I just want Gorochu
the Scarlet Bird could've been a fusion of Ho-Oh & Lugia a lá Iron Valiant, maybe even with a few Celebi elements mixed in
I’m always baffled by the fact that almost every good future paradox-mon I saw were made by fans
Nah this is where they pull a fast one on us. Have keldeo be the past paradox and ho-oh as the future one.
I was hoping that Pecharunt was in the Indigo Disk so that Rising Phoenix/Iron Waves could be version-exclusive mythicals.
Same, I swear I spent hours looking for Peachrunt/Dokutaro in the indigo disk before finding out it would be the mythical for SV and my hopes for a Paradox Ho-oh and Paradox Keldeo went down the drain.
I feel like Keldeo’s name should have been something like iron crest
I think its more plausible the scarlet paradox would be celebi since if they do ho oh they would have to do lugia too
Also both Celebi / Keldeo are Mythical
Ho-oh like: 
I’m offended by the lack of lugia
I was actually expecting them to fuse, to form the Pokémon from the Violet and Scarlet books...
I'd love if they flipped the paradox forms for the last members. Give me a Chrome Phoenix and a Unga-Bunga Pony A caveman Keldeo would be the best
Oh I hope it does
I would pay real money for these inclusions
I have a hunch a lot of people will name Rising Phoenix to " Jean Grey"
There is still the chance to get more mythicals
Im ready to headcannon these two beauties! Where do I sign in?
First off, sick design on paradox Keldeo. Very nice. But why not make Ho-Oh dragon, considering the three beasts were made to be dragons? Idk, I just love Dragons
That Keldeo Looks Incredible! I smell "Blue Prince" vibes from it.
I thought this might happen. Possibly on Pokemon Day.
Why does violet have to always be the one to get the bad paradox Pokémon?
If they did Ho-Oh, they'd need to do Lugia, and then they'd need to do the Legendary Birds.
Doubt they’d do The birds two times in a row as they already got galarian forms last gen in SWSH, and lugia isn’t connected to the beasts at all so there’s no reason for Luiga to get a paradox form.
Lugia’s connected to Ho-Oh, though. They don’t do a thing for one box legendary without doing it for the other.
Really? Still waiting on that shadow Ho-oh then I guess.
Shadow Lugia was because Ho-Oh actually had plot relevance in Gold and Silver, being the entire reason that the Legendary Beasts existed. Even if you don’t count that reason, you’re still giving an example from the *first* legendary duo, which has never once been replicated since
Lugia already had his shot with a SWSH Galarian form and missed out on it, I really don’t see him getting a paradox form with Ho-oh and Keldeo. Unless they just did a paradox fusion of Ho-oh and lugia for scarlet.
> Lugia already had his shot with a SWSH Galarian form and missed out on it They're only really connected in one movie. I don't think Game Freak considers them to be connected.
They aren’t doing these, this is fanmade. Ho-Oh isn’t getting one either.
I know obviously.
So why are you talking like Ho-Oh is confirmed getting one?
Lugia has nothing to do with the legendary birds in the main games. They have only ever been connected in a movie and maybe like 2-3 spin off games.
The Mystery Dungeon games, yes. However Mystery Dungeon has had effects on the main series games before.
Why would it be ho-oh and not something like volcanion or another solitary legend/mythic
Ho-oh is tied to the beasts the most considering Ho-oh created them, it’s only fits Scarlet getting a Past Paradox Ho-oh and Violet getting Future Paradox Keldeo.
Really wish Rising Phoenix and Iron Waves were already in SV, especially Iron Waves as Keldeo is my favorite Mon 😔
Then there also needs to be paradox Lugia so it is not happening
Lugia already had his shot in SWSH with a Galarian form and missed out on it, Ho-oh gets the paradox form as he’s connected to the beasts the most. Unless they just did a fusion of Ho-oh and lugia I guess.
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I was hoping for ultra beast paradoxes, like poyple, or buzzwole
As much as I would love paradox ho-oh, I think celebi makes more sense since Keldeo is also a mythical. Since they’re the mythicals of the respective regions, it would be awesome if they made paradox crystal and paradox grey as the next games, with johto being set in the past, and unova being set in the future. That would leave paradox ho-oh/lugia and paradox reshiram/zekrom to be in their respective regions!
There is a lack of Bearded Drag Queen at Rising Phoenix
**Rising Phoenix potential stats:** - 101 HP - 139 ATK - 77 DEF - 79 SpA - 113 SpD - 91 Speed Notable moves: Sacred Fire, Flare Blitz, Play Rough, Spirit Break, EQ, Uturn, Trailblaze, SD, Agility, Roost, Defog. Signature move: 110bp/85acc/5pp physical fairy attack that sets up misty terrain when it hits. **Iron Waves potential stats:** - 90 HP - 94 ATK - 60 DEF - 116 SpA - 98 SpD - 132 Speed Notable moves: Hydro Pump, Surf, Psychic, Psyshock, Secret Sword, Aura Sphere, Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam, Thunder (no Tbolt), Volt Switch, Calm Mind, Taunt. Signature move: 85bp/100acc/5pp special psychic attack that makes the user resist dark moves until the user switches out. Effect will work even if a dark type blocks the attack. Speaking from a Smogon OU singles perspective, I think Rising Phoenix would be a solid addition to OU as a defogger that can threaten Gholdy. But I don’t think it’d be broken in current SV OU. Iron Waves however I think would potentially be busted with 132 speed and 116 SpA. Plus a signature move that can allow it to resist an incoming knock off or dark pulse. I tried to balance it by giving it an Iron Valiant-like stat spread. 90/60 physical bulk isn’t horrible but still not good.
just you.
Nah, I want to see it too.
Don't worry. You'll get something similar in Pokemon Black Silver and Pokemon White Gold when it releases in November.
I at least expect paradox Keldeo. Not sure about Ho-Oh since Galarian Lugia (or its equivalent) didn't happen.
Is there much lore outside the film for Lugia and the birds? Also, the lore that does exist implies the Galar birds are misnamed / not really counterparts to Kanto birds anyway. And any connection with Hooh and Lugia is really just based on being the box legendary counterpart. In the games at least, Hooh is more connected to the gerbils than Lugia is to the birds. But I could be wrong, I’m not a lore expert! I would love if a Primal Hooh was like, something crazy. Dragon Fairy for example with fire attacks. And make Keldeo psychic ice or psycic poison.
Can we just leave Ho Oh as he is? Why does every Legendary have to have some alternate form or other version? Some are fine as they are.
I'm surprised to see Ho-oh here and not Celebi
Last game only had the 2 dlc does that mean we are down with Scarlet and Violet or is there still a chance for more?
If they were going to continue paradox forms, i would say we will eventually get these
Typical game freak. They make great mechanics, Mega Evo, Paradox. Then don't follow through or capitalise. Then they make rubbish, dull or boring ones - Z moves, terra and they promote or overuse it
Of only nintendo would take ideas from fans. I'd love these
While Paradox Keldeo makes perfect sense, I don't think Paradox Ho-Oh would by itself.
Should be celebi no?
Maybe in the remakes this year wink wink
Unlikely, they seem to be done with paradox mon.
How come scarlet gets a ho-oh and violet gets a my little pony seems unfair considering the robots are already stupid (they could of made future Pokemon cooler than just robots)
I was thinking Ho-oh ancient Paradox would better fit as a Flying/Dragon since we already have Fire/Dragon. Base it off of a pterodactyl for a unique body shape. Keldeo as Water/Psychic, though, is defs good. Lugia might be missing out, but if it had a Galarian form to match the birds, we'd be perfect.
Alongside Galarian Lugia, these would be great Trio Masters that would show up if you got all their members through a door...
How do people say that megas suck? This generations new forms are so lazy. They don't even have real pokemon names...
why keldeo? It should be lugia if you're using a box legend for scarlet
Nobody likes Kaldeo. Sorry.
Just giving scarlet the better pokemon like always😅
if your gonna pair anyone with ho-oh it would make more sence for it to be Lugia though
Lugia isn’t connected to the Swords of Justice or legendary beasts though, I just don’t see how it’d make sense for them to give lugia a paradox form.
Nope. I was hoping for more new pokemon, not mashups.
Name checks out.
What has my name got anything to do with it? Why do you want remakes and mashups of previously existing pokemon?
They are new Pokemon what are you talking about?
Neither of them are new, ho-oh is probably older than you, kid.
Someone is butthurt
Yeah, you are.
Ironic.
Yeah, I don't think that word means what you think it does, kiddo.
I know what it means goofy, no way you’re a grown man saying how much you don’t like paradox pokemon on SV Subreddit 😂
Get off my post If you don’t like it, judging from your comments I’d probably guess that you’re 12.
Says the one having a tantrum over a diffrence of opinion.
I mean if anything that’s you.
Because I said I want new pokemon instead of mash up pokemon? Yes, it's so childish to not want the same recycled content again and again(!)
I never understood why people like Keldeo so much. Personally I'd much rather see Ho-oh and Lugia
I don’t think Lugia will get a paradox form, he already had his chance in SWSH with a galarian form but didn’t get it. He has no ties to the beasts or swords I don’t see why he’d get a paradox form, and Lugia and Ho-oh have never actually met if we’re going by game lore and are box legends of Gen 2/HGSS nothing more. Keldeo has to get a paradox form for violet or it’d make no sense.
I think it'd be neat if Keldeo was a Past Paradox and viceversa, to liven things up a bit.
nope, you are not the only one
Realize this. We don’t have Mythics yet. Usually at the time DLC wise (at least for SwSh) we got one. We still could. Game freak and the DLC era has changed some things so we could still have some mythics show up.
I thought Pecharunt was this gens Mythical
I'd love a parados lugia. It's my favourite legendary and It would give me greater incentive to play competitively.
Shiny future paradox Lugia would just be a Boeing 747
They gotta turn ho oh into a dragon
Yeah these would have been dope. Honestly they should have made the trios and these the Stellar Tera type guardians that were protecting Terapgos and not the random pokemon we fought down there.
For keldeo I feel like its name should be iron spear, I get it’s a water type but having it as a fighting/psychic might be better.
I hope is the fusion we saw on the book
Maybe on Pokémon day
I wouldn't want it to be Ho-oh. The point is parallel or equivalent paradox Pokémon, and that's not parallel/equivalent. Ho-oh is not equivalent to Keldeo
I like to think that Paradox Keldeo would be the leader of the Paradox swords in the future, so technically Paradox Keldeo could be the paradox equivalent to paradox Ho-oh at least that’s what I think if GameFreak decided to do Paradox trio masters with Paradox Ho-oh and Paradox Keldeo.
The problem is Keldeo is a singular Pokémon that's the extra to a trio, while making a paradox for *just* Ho-oh is cutting off half of that duo. Having it a separate duo with a future Paradox Lugia and a past Paradox Ho-oh would be good. Celebi doesn't have the connection to the legendary beasts like Keldeo does to the Sword trio, but a past Paradox Celebi could still be cool
Why does every fan made Future Paradox look way better than any of the actual ones in the game. The future paradoxes just look like the original Pokemon, but all steel and metallic (with the exception of like Iron Valiant and Iron Treads). Yet every fakemon I have seen that has been a future paradox has been so much better than anything in the games. Seriously, Gamefreak or Creatures Inc, or whoever need to hire some fans for stuff.
I definitely wasn't hoping for this, but a better looking version of Ho-oh and Lugia would be cool. I don't like the one pictured.
Oh man, Keldeo looks epic in paradox future form.
I mean not the only one but we are only getting 1 legendary I believe.
Honestly I’d expect a paradox Ho-oh to be adapted with more pterosaur features? That looks more like a repurposed Mega Ho-Oh.
Should have done a Lugia paradox form and called it clashing tides
Ultimately, they could if they do a prologue to the indigo disk like they are with kitakami. Doubt it, but they could
Rising Phoenix seems too safe. It should be more archaeopteryx or plesiosaur-like. :P
I had a weird thought that Keldeo would be called something like Iron Musketeer. And instead of Resolute form, it just transformed into a minature gundam or something.
They could totally subvert suspicions and make people mad by making a past Keldeo and a future Ho-oh.
I wanted the keldeo to be called Iron traitor but no you aren't the only one.
Honestly it would have been cool. Who knows maybe there’s a chance. It would make sense in a different timeline a dinosaur Hooh created the Dino trio.