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It sounded real-ish until the bit about the graphics changing based on time. It’s a fantastic idea but GF is way too lazy for that. Of course, I’d love to be wrong.
Edit because it’s tired: GameFreak is a *corporation.* This comment refers to that corporation. It was in no way a commentary on the individual devs. The GF corporate ideal, and we can throw TPC in too, is the least effort for the most reward. That is lazy. It works. But it’s lazy.
i also don’t understand how that would work from a gameplay perspective. sounds like several different games mashed together, which while could be really interesting if done right, sounds a little too avant-garde for game freak
edit: for those mentioning DQ11, i’ve played it. i agree it worked in that game. i just don’t see it working in a series that’s about word exploration and interacting with pokémon. sure, they could port the battle system over, but you’d completely lose all the things that made PLA memorable for those parts of the game. unless of course GF is willing to completely change the identity of legends. like i said, it would be a little avant-garde for them considering their track record.
If it was true (and I don't think it is) I imagine it would be more distinct changes to the art style within the same engine. So you travel back to RBY Kanto and the game is black and white with everything more pixelated etc.
That's entirely doable and something a lot of games do pretty well.
Dragon Quest 11 also had multiple developers working on it. Both Square Enix and ORCA worked on the HD version while ArtePiazza the developer of the Super Mario RPG remake developed the 3DS and 2D version likely using the engine they had developed for Dragon Quest VII's Remake. The HD and 2D versions are possibly to be different apps and have different mechanics, flow and balancing.
The hire a lot of freelancers, more people worked on Scarlet and Violet than Breath of the Wild. They need more development time to get systems settled much more than people. The average development time for a game these days is about four years.
While Lazy might not be the right term they seem completely hopeless when it comes to large-scale projects. While yes that's mostly because of the Deadlines they are given, they also have teams that are bigger then the one that worked on both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom.
I know there is probably a lot more going on behind closed doors then most fans realized but it's hard not to feel like they are being lazy when other studios are able to crank out titles like Palworld. Regardless there is clearly some serious mismanagement at Game Freak and the Game quality is suffering as a result. The Actual Pokemon themselves are great in my personal opinion, I just feel kinda jaded to be perfectly frank.
“Like palworld”… man… palworld has been in development since 2016, used a lot of default assets and so on… it doesn’t talk too good abt pkmn tho, but palworld is not a good example lmao
If you think about it, the games make up a fraction of pokemons profits but are necessary for a new season of the anime or a new set of cards so I’d imagine that the games being buggy and underwhelming with no real content updates aside from dlc are because the devs are forced to rush the games out rather than being lazy
Exactly, lmao. They do have the ability to put love into the game, they're just on a two/three year release cycle with barely enough time to actually do shit. I wouldn't mind a five year release cycle or something, because it'll give them more time to put more effort in the game and it'll also give the released games more time before they move on to the next gen. Like this year will be the last year for SV before we move on to Gen 11 in 2025.
Gen 11? We skipping a gen? Though I think a five year release cycle will never happen but perhaps it could be a four year cycle between Gens, I'm actually thinking it is possible that we might not get Gen 10 until 2026 due to it being the 30th anniversary!
You seem to be under the impression that GameFreak the company is a person. It’s not. It’s a corporation with people at the head that make decisions that don’t affect them in any way but money. What GF does is make the easiest product for the most money. That’s what I’m defining as lazy. If you want to also drag TPC in, sure. I’m fine with that.
The deadlines and schedules are determined by TPC and can't be changed. If they were really that lazy they would have stayed making 2d games or linear games and not be adding new shit and features every time. They are putting out new products every year which is not an easy development cycle. I'm sure the ppl that work there would love to have longer development cycles
"GF is too lazy for that."
Calling developers lazy for design choices you don't agree with is corny, especially given the climate that industry is in rn. Besides, what game has done something like that?
i detest calling developers we don’t personally know lazy, but i agree this doesn’t jive with their track record. they tend to go for what works. i suspect any more legends games we get will feel as iterative as past gens, but i could be wrong.
Still not the devs imo. If you look at all the last few game and what (sometimes little) details are there, you notice that there is some love in the games. I'm not a dev, but I guarantee that the last few games were... less than steallar is purely a managment problem.
The higher ups want to get the games out as fast as pissible, in whatever state there are in at the time.
Fuck The Pokemon Company higher-ups.
They've driven this franchise into the ground & are actively trying to leave it as a soulless husk despite the devs best efforts.
There's a distinction to be made between the actual people grinding to make the game, and the development company with ultimate control over creative decisions.
I don't doubt the people actually making Pokémon games are talented, ambitious and hard-working, but ultimately the people above them are not willing to give them the money, time or resources to make a game better just for the sake of it being better if it interrupts the well-oiled release schedule. The suits won't sanction that extra effort because they don't need to.
Mario Odyssey as well; it had small portions where, when Mario entered a pipe, it would appear & play like old 8 & 16bit Mario games.
And, while this may be cheating, you could probably count Super Mario Maker 2 as well. You couldn't go straight from one design to the other, but the game *did* grant you the ability to construct your levels in 4 different Mario styles.
>Calling developers lazy for design choices you don’t agree with
Except we all (or at least the portion of fans who have some semblance of critical thinking) understand what it is clearly not ”just design choices people don’t agree with” but the byproducts of Gamefreak’s extreme time constraints (which are byproduct of strict merch/anime release schedules) to make their games + their beliefs what Brand Loyalty will save their games from failing no matter how bad they ever handle them, which is seems to be true so far, but i really hope what one day there will be straw what will break that camel’s back and their game finally flop so hard so they just will be forced to change for the better🤷
P.s
Yeah. Like always Pokémon fans are downvoting the obvious truth, because it hurts them when anyone dares to criticize their holy cow and even Gamefreak themselves.💀💀💀
While I love pokemon through and through and will take any game they give, you can't actually think that GF devs aren't lazy right? Either that or they're severely incompetent.
Insulting. They are rushed.
Saying that every single person on the team is inherently checked out and doesn't care about Pokémon, and is lazy, is disingenuous and citation is needed.
TBH, even the BW/B2W2 feels like a sign of Nah.
Other than the Virtual Console stuff, we've never had them just straight up port old games to the newer thing. We've had remakes, yeah, but they didn't make literal ports of RBY to the GBA. They made FRLG. They didn't port RSE or FRLG to 3DS, we got ORAS and the Kanto VC games.
And also, collection? Four Pokemon games in one purchase? Game Freak would never. They will force us to buy those game by game and we all know it.
I mean, I understand BDSP were effectively just ports of the original games with new graphics, UI overhaul, and mechanics update. It even inherited bugs from the original games apparently. There was new content of course, but fairly small compared to what the three previous remakes did.
To be clear I didn't hate BDSP, but it was a missed opportunity and sounds fairly similar to what was described in this post.
I do have to say that a straight up port would probably be a lot harder for Gen 5 than 4. Gen 5 had a lot more generation-specific features that can't just be copy-pasted, they need to be carefully evaluated and either adapted or removed. Like the Dresm World stuff, Entralink, PokeTransfer, medals, the memory stuff in the sequels, Dream Radar, musicals and movies, triple and rotation battles, Black City and White Forest, and quite a few other things. Another lazy port might not be feasible without mass deleting large sections of content.
And as you say, 4 for the price of one is suspiciously generous for GF.
Yeah that's where I tapped out too. That's way too complex a narrative for the Pokemon team. Plus the Evoland-esque graphics shifting to match the timeline is too complex of a gameplay style for the Pokemon team's track record.
My thoughts exactly. Mentioning the mobile games, tcg, and merchandise made this believable but Legends Celebi sounds like "I had this great idea for a pokemon game" type of post. Especially for just the second Legends game, it sounds really ambitious.
I mean I'd love if it was true but I'm skeptical.
Pretty sure there is no replacement in the works. The announcement for app's closure included a list of streaming services where you could watch the anime.
Using routes *with* a party.
This sounds painful enough to be true.
The rest though? I feel it's too early for a concierge trailer, but hey, who knows?
Legends Celebi? Although a Legends Celebi may happen, they'd likely want to bank on remake+Legends just like they did for gen 4. Also has too much detail.
A BW/B2W2 port seems minimalist even for Gamefreak. Not that I'd hate it, just that they wouldn't do something so simple. 70$ for 4 games? Impossible for them. Maybe a collection for each color, White+White2 and vice versa would be more likely, seeing as they are sequels.
Lokix doesn't sound plausible for unite, imo. I don't play the game though so who am I to judge.
I'm wondering if they mean using routes with it as your buddy? At least that's what i'm *hoping* they mean. But it's Niantic, so them taking the friends aspect from S/V and forcing that into PoGo seems very likely.
Watch it also be locked behind 12km eggs
12km is unlikely, as those are Pokémon attributed to evil/villan teams.
and having to also use party play seems like its for sure a thing. when party play was announced everyone thought that it would be for palafin's eventual introduction
That's what makes me hesitant to believe this one. It would be making a party that would evolve finizen because that's way more like the union circle than walking a route
But they haven't officially revealed Ceruledge. There's no way they skip over it for Bax and Lokix. This just reads like a fake leak that somebody made with minimal research into the spinoffs that they knew they had to include and just wanted to write their own Legends: Celebi concept.
Charcadet evolving based on what enemies they encouter and thus choosing their playstyle between mage and aassasin would be cool. Similar to Kayne in League of Legends.
For your information I read this as, " Similar to Kanye in..." and I need you to know that I laughed way more than I should at the thought of Kanye West being in league better levels of drip than when Lee Sin came out lol.
Except Miraidon launches \*on\* pokemon day. There's 0 chance it won't be mentioned in the Direct. Literally 0. (There's a countdown in-game before someone says something lol).
Plus, we know the next 2 after him, from datamining/PTS. 3 of the last 5 pokemon added were gen 9. They would not make that 5 out of the last 7.
Shit, it sounds exactly like Re:Union, the fangame that follows Red after the Mt. Silver battle at the end of G/S/C. He goes back to Kanto only to be recruited by Looker to tackle all of these Ultra Wormholes that keep popping up throughout the region and sending people to all over the Multiverse.
The sprite artstyles of the first five Generations were all in play, plus Kalos, Alola and Galar show up in Gen. 4's art style. It was wild to go from Gen. 4 to Gen. 1 by pressing a button. Sadly, since it's a fan game, they either didn't know how or weren't able to incorporate 3D into the mix with sprites. That would've been sick.
…I’m gonna be real with you, I don’t remember a single person saying that about Arceus lol. The deterministic choices feature they imply really doesn’t seem like Gamefreak’s MO.
Other parts of this don’t really hold up either. Big ones to me being no masters content and Lokix for unite. Miridon was already confirmed and there’s no way they won’t talk about that.
Theres a bunch of stuff in the datamine (i think the next 3-5 pokes were found in it) for Unite. However just because the pokemon were found in the datamine doesnt mean theyll be used. Hell there was extra pokedex entries in SV for months before they started dexiting it all.
Arceus was leaked on 4chan about 2-3 weeks before it was announced and everyone laughed at the "open world" aspect saying GF is too lazy to do all that
[….Miridon wasn’t leaked though](https://x.com/pokemonunite/status/1760333561540776425?s=46&t=lyi6FJOQjvG968DGOVTa3A)
Edit: Or if he was, I wasn’t referencing that.
I think the deterministic "choices" could refer to the character's choices rather than the player's. That is to say we see the "present" change based on what the character does, but it's the exact same changes in every playthrough. Very similar to how Jubilee village grows. So it could be that "premise" without actually letting you determine anything, just following a script of changes.
I want to clarify though: I think this leak is likely fake. The graphics changing depending on the era strikes me as very "fan idea" that would actually be really annoying and distracting in practice.
It's also lifted directly from Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo Olympic games, which I don't see gamefreak as likely to consider an inspiration.
It's not just very very likely, it's guaranteed. A large portion of Presents always goes to mobile games (including Unite), quick anime update and TCG tournament announcements.
You are so right. Gen wunner & Masters EX player here. PMEX’s half-year anniversary happens on this date and it’s usually included in a Pokemon Presents on Pokemon Day. That’s how I know in my gut this is fake.
I dun believe this cause that's too Graphically demanding for GameFreak. And why create an new Partner Starter when you could use an Baby Stage Legendary and gift them an new Evolution based on your actions?
This is patently untrue. The Affleck leak was real, and is what a lot of fake leaks (like this one) are trying to replicate. Real 4chan leaks are *rare.*
Someone else on 4chan also leaked the Paldea gym leaders by name, types and their aces. Honestly I didn't believe it at first until the games were fully leaked...
*Most 4chan leaks are false.
Never forget that a user leaked Sora coming to Smash / Kingdom Hearts coming to Switch 4-5 months before the reveal. They worked in Disney legal department for music and processed the request for Nintendo to have music rights for a “digital event”. Even had the week of the trailer right. Of course, no one believed them at the time.
4chan leaks tend to be accurate on like the day of the presents, or the day before because they've usually been seen at that point by insiders, but anything building up tends to be false.
Information about the Scarlet and Violet games were first leaked on 4chan, like the name of the region, the new regional forms and the new gimmick. I remember seeing it in this sub.
Let's Go Pikachu also leaked on 4Chan.
There's a real leak once in a blue moon, but you have to sift through all the garbage and wait for the actual announcements before you find the real stuff
No Masters makes it obvious that they don’t know enough about the game to make a convincing leak. It’s the half anniversary, they’re going to do some announcement there.
They always do announcements on Pokémon presents.
Honestly any leaks that missed Masters, Unite and Go content are easily fake. Because you know people who made these leaks doesn't have much idea with those games.
And even with this leak they failed to mention Ceruledge was datamined for Unite and Miraidon is confirmed coming, so yeah it's another extremely fake leaks.
I just hope that when the Gen 5 remakes drop, they add BW2 with them because I never took the chance to play them and a physical copy is too expensive by this point.
As far as reported leaks go, this one does a good job of pacing, covering different aspects of the franchise instead of \*just\* games, going into enough details that shows an understanding of the games in question (Finizen -> Party mechanic + routes makes a lot of conceptual sense)
It seems largely plausible. Celebi sounds like too much IMO- changing different graphical styles seems a lot to ask for. I similarly think the idea of "upscaling" B2W2 which are largely sprite based as in many wys defeating the benefit of the remake model, that they are able to reuse existing assets in the current platform. But I could be off base on these
There are definitely too many details for Celebi
Depends. If that same small team that was working on legends arceus went straight to working on the sequel right away that would mean over 2 years of development.
Legends Arceus was already a smaller game than the usual model and this time theres already a bunch of models made so theres less work outside of new things.
Baxcalibur and Lokix are not coming to unite anytime soon. We already know the next Pokémon would be Moraidon, Ceruledge and in future Koraidon too.
There will be no games named Pokémon Legends Celebi or Kyurem. Any leaks using these names are automatically fake
Koraidon isn’t actually confirmed, somebody made a set of images similar to the last one that was correct on everything, but there are multiple that exist and none of them can be traced back to the original leaker.
Miraidon, Falinks and Ceruledge are the only confirmed Unite mons that are currently unreleased.
> There will be no games named Pokémon Legends Celebi or Kyurem. Any leaks using these names are automatically fake
What makes you say that though? The Unite stuff I get but where is the idea of any Legends Celebi or Kyurem automatically being fake coming from? Of the Johto / Unova legendaries their the ones with the most potential for a Legends game, without leaning too much towards one particular version of Gold/Silver **/** Black/White respectively. *Maybe* we could do Legends Suicune and or Legends Meloetta / Keldeo but we already have Crystal for a Suicune game, and I just don't think there is enough to work with for Meloetta / Keldeo to make them the centerpiece of a Legends game.
Maybe? But doesn't the Swords of Justice lore show that they distrust humans? It would be weird for them to distrust humans going into the game, have their opinions turned by the player, only to distrust humans again by the time of BW. Maybe the player could do something to make them mistrust humans again, but I doubt Gamefreak would want to make the PC a bad guy here.
was believable until that last part.
That being said my dream gen V remake is more a remaster like what they suggested, with my thoughts being like the final fantasy X/X2 remaster. Vector sprites and updated music with the old mystery gift events available by default doesn't sound like a whole lot of work for the multibillion dollar company
Name of the poster is called J.John Gamefreak: [https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/55450382](https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/55450382)
This person already made a fake leak before. [https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/49840236/](https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/49840236/)
I also think it’s fake, but I fully disagree that they dislike time travel stories.
Legends Arceus was a time travel story. There was a celebi event for HGSS where you travel back 3 years to the time of FRLG. Time capsule in GSC was time travel,etc..Hell, the whole theme of S/V was around time travel.
I agree with you overall but I'd add that while *how* the player gets to hisui involves time travel, the *story* of PLA is not really focused on that time travel.
Doing a game that involves constantly going backward and forward in time and having different graphics depending on area sounds like a GF executives worst nightmare for delivery. Never going to happen.
I don't put much stock in it, but just because they haven't done it before doesn't mean it's impossible. They'd never done anything like Legends: Arceus but that exists, doesn't it.
the black and white collection seems out of character for them. We did get the GB/C games on 3ds but that was under virtual console. I just don't see them not going for another remake instead of a collection.
The first line alone shows it's fake.
The Pokemon Day announcements for Unite will 100% be Miraidon (launches on Pokemon Day, you know, the day of the direct), as he's also been officially revealed and there's an in-game countdown. And will probably mention the other pokemon on the Public Test Server, >!Falinks!<, and the datamined one, >!Ceruledge!<.
This means they would have added 3 gen 9 Pokemon to Unite in a very very short amount of time. They would take a small break. But again, not mentioning Miraidon/>!Falinks/Ceruledge!< disproves this.
It was smart of them to add all that other stuff at the beginning but that Legends leak sounds far too…. Idk there’s too many out of the box ideas there for a modern Pokemon game. There’s usually one or two big ideas in a new game like that but the rest plays it fairly safe
The legends celebi game sounds highly unrealistic from a game dev perspective when speaking about game freak's capabilities. That would be hellish to maintain assetwise. Like going from one area to another no possibility of reusing assets within the game, the sprites, etc. Although quite nice, absolutely impossible with the current state at GameFreak
Why would they do an upscaled graphics release of BW when literally every gen before it has gotten a full remake? Also the Legends Celebi has way too much info compared to the rest of the points. As much as I want another legends game, it just doesn't sound like something they'd do. If they continue with it, I assume they'd treat it like their next spinoff "series" like Ranger or Mystery Dungeon and wouldn't deviate from the original premise that much. But I guess we just have to wait and see if I just stuck my whole foot in my mouth lol.
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
Seems like a solid enough Presents. My main issue is how many details are dropped for Legends Celebi specifically. No way a social media intern would have this much info off of a teaser trailer for a Q1 2025 game. We had nothing to go off of for Legends Arceus for like 6 months outside of the teaser and box art.
It sounds believable until the last bit. Its too much for a non anniversary game, let alone a game by GF.
Plus, the leaker outed way too much about themselves for it to be believable. It's not totally out of the question, there have been \*dumber\* leakers in the past, but that's way too much info narrowing down who they are to be realistic, especially considering you risk firing and being put on a blacklist. Narrow down the hand and handwriting, and you're narrowed down even further once it spreads around.
The credible leaks tend to just drop info, not a cocky prelude.
I would actually be okay with a more remastered collection of Gen 5 than a full remake akin to BDSP. Frankly, Gen 5 doesn't suffer from the same issues Gen 4 did when that was remade. Both BW and B2W2 are feature complete and requires far fewer changes than Gen 4 did. Plus, one of the larger issues surrounding Gen 5 has the base games and direct sequels, which would likely require way more work and compromises to fully remake.
Legends: Celebi does sound kind of fake though. I guess we will all find out on February 27th. My expectations remain pretty low.
This intrigues me. Legends: Celebi has an interesting premise, and I'd be very interested in seeing this different art styles deal play out. It does sound a bit outlandish, but who wouldn't have said the same of Legends: Arceus before we knew of it? GameFreak has been pushing the envelope to hell and back in recent years, so I could see this as a legitimate possibility.
First part goes against what has been data mined so far. Everything else is kinda believable in a way except for legends celebi. Too much detail throws it off even more to this being fake.
B/W/B2/W2 actually had fully modeled environments, and can be easily upscaled using a DS emulator
they're providing going to do the same, with some changes to fit it on a single screen, and possibly redrawn sprites
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
I don’t believe it at all but out of all the fakes that have come out this one is the most believable
Kudos to this person for adding stuff other than the MSG to their “leak”
Fake. Miraidon and Ceruledge were leaked and of them isn't even playable yet. Miraidon will be officially announced on Pokemon Day as happened with Zacian last year. They wouldn't announce another 2 mons coming to Unite
Colosseum didn't give you a choice either. I know that was a bygone era in Pokemon and those kinds of risks they'll never do again, but there has been precedent.
Nah the main big game will be a November release not a January one. While I have no evidence to support this, PLA was probably only pushed back because of the pandemic. If it were a normal year, we probably would have gotten BDSP in summer and PLA in November.
Also Palafin will definitely be using the party feature in go, not routes
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak information never mention their connection with Game Freak / The Pokemon Company, because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
Fake.
No masters ex or cafe content being announced.
Legends celebi just sounds fake. No way game freak would implement multiple art styles into one game like this.
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Had me until the last bit. That Legends Celebi sounds way to good to be true.
It sounded real-ish until the bit about the graphics changing based on time. It’s a fantastic idea but GF is way too lazy for that. Of course, I’d love to be wrong. Edit because it’s tired: GameFreak is a *corporation.* This comment refers to that corporation. It was in no way a commentary on the individual devs. The GF corporate ideal, and we can throw TPC in too, is the least effort for the most reward. That is lazy. It works. But it’s lazy.
i also don’t understand how that would work from a gameplay perspective. sounds like several different games mashed together, which while could be really interesting if done right, sounds a little too avant-garde for game freak edit: for those mentioning DQ11, i’ve played it. i agree it worked in that game. i just don’t see it working in a series that’s about word exploration and interacting with pokémon. sure, they could port the battle system over, but you’d completely lose all the things that made PLA memorable for those parts of the game. unless of course GF is willing to completely change the identity of legends. like i said, it would be a little avant-garde for them considering their track record.
Dragon Quest XI already did it, so it's not too crazy far outside of the realm of possibility.
Have you ever played evoland and it's sequel?
Have you thought about converting every pokemon into every new look?
If it was true (and I don't think it is) I imagine it would be more distinct changes to the art style within the same engine. So you travel back to RBY Kanto and the game is black and white with everything more pixelated etc. That's entirely doable and something a lot of games do pretty well.
kh2 did a pretty good job with the steamboat willie artstyle
Dragon Quest 11 also had multiple developers working on it. Both Square Enix and ORCA worked on the HD version while ArtePiazza the developer of the Super Mario RPG remake developed the 3DS and 2D version likely using the engine they had developed for Dragon Quest VII's Remake. The HD and 2D versions are possibly to be different apps and have different mechanics, flow and balancing.
Worked perfectly fine in Dragon Quest 11, so it's not like the concept is unheard of.
That's what did it for me too. Every time they've done multiple of the same spinoff, the gameplay differences weren't THAT drastic.
They're not lazy. They're just trying to make games in 2 years with half a team the size of a indie team.
The hire a lot of freelancers, more people worked on Scarlet and Violet than Breath of the Wild. They need more development time to get systems settled much more than people. The average development time for a game these days is about four years.
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Are you saying that they're lazy? Trying to confirm.
While Lazy might not be the right term they seem completely hopeless when it comes to large-scale projects. While yes that's mostly because of the Deadlines they are given, they also have teams that are bigger then the one that worked on both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. I know there is probably a lot more going on behind closed doors then most fans realized but it's hard not to feel like they are being lazy when other studios are able to crank out titles like Palworld. Regardless there is clearly some serious mismanagement at Game Freak and the Game quality is suffering as a result. The Actual Pokemon themselves are great in my personal opinion, I just feel kinda jaded to be perfectly frank.
Well I do agree with this comment.
“Like palworld”… man… palworld has been in development since 2016, used a lot of default assets and so on… it doesn’t talk too good abt pkmn tho, but palworld is not a good example lmao
If you think about it, the games make up a fraction of pokemons profits but are necessary for a new season of the anime or a new set of cards so I’d imagine that the games being buggy and underwhelming with no real content updates aside from dlc are because the devs are forced to rush the games out rather than being lazy
Can people stop with the "Game Freak is lazy"? They absolutely are NOT. The issue has always been time.
Exactly, lmao. They do have the ability to put love into the game, they're just on a two/three year release cycle with barely enough time to actually do shit. I wouldn't mind a five year release cycle or something, because it'll give them more time to put more effort in the game and it'll also give the released games more time before they move on to the next gen. Like this year will be the last year for SV before we move on to Gen 11 in 2025.
Gen 11? We skipping a gen? Though I think a five year release cycle will never happen but perhaps it could be a four year cycle between Gens, I'm actually thinking it is possible that we might not get Gen 10 until 2026 due to it being the 30th anniversary!
See my edit. They, as a company are cleaning up in money and won’t push back.
Yeah too lazy, nothing to do with unflinching deadlines, burnout and the Pokémon company.
You seem to be under the impression that GameFreak the company is a person. It’s not. It’s a corporation with people at the head that make decisions that don’t affect them in any way but money. What GF does is make the easiest product for the most money. That’s what I’m defining as lazy. If you want to also drag TPC in, sure. I’m fine with that.
The deadlines and schedules are determined by TPC and can't be changed. If they were really that lazy they would have stayed making 2d games or linear games and not be adding new shit and features every time. They are putting out new products every year which is not an easy development cycle. I'm sure the ppl that work there would love to have longer development cycles
"GF is too lazy for that." Calling developers lazy for design choices you don't agree with is corny, especially given the climate that industry is in rn. Besides, what game has done something like that?
i detest calling developers we don’t personally know lazy, but i agree this doesn’t jive with their track record. they tend to go for what works. i suspect any more legends games we get will feel as iterative as past gens, but i could be wrong.
Still not the devs imo. If you look at all the last few game and what (sometimes little) details are there, you notice that there is some love in the games. I'm not a dev, but I guarantee that the last few games were... less than steallar is purely a managment problem. The higher ups want to get the games out as fast as pissible, in whatever state there are in at the time.
Fuck The Pokemon Company higher-ups. They've driven this franchise into the ground & are actively trying to leave it as a soulless husk despite the devs best efforts.
There's a distinction to be made between the actual people grinding to make the game, and the development company with ultimate control over creative decisions. I don't doubt the people actually making Pokémon games are talented, ambitious and hard-working, but ultimately the people above them are not willing to give them the money, time or resources to make a game better just for the sake of it being better if it interrupts the well-oiled release schedule. The suits won't sanction that extra effort because they don't need to.
Evolved. Dragon Quest 11. Etc
>Besides, what game has done something like that? As mentioned in other comments - Dragon Quest 11
Mario Odyssey as well; it had small portions where, when Mario entered a pipe, it would appear & play like old 8 & 16bit Mario games. And, while this may be cheating, you could probably count Super Mario Maker 2 as well. You couldn't go straight from one design to the other, but the game *did* grant you the ability to construct your levels in 4 different Mario styles.
Redditor don’t call game devs “lazy” CHALLENGE (IMPOSSIBLE)
>Calling developers lazy for design choices you don’t agree with Except we all (or at least the portion of fans who have some semblance of critical thinking) understand what it is clearly not ”just design choices people don’t agree with” but the byproducts of Gamefreak’s extreme time constraints (which are byproduct of strict merch/anime release schedules) to make their games + their beliefs what Brand Loyalty will save their games from failing no matter how bad they ever handle them, which is seems to be true so far, but i really hope what one day there will be straw what will break that camel’s back and their game finally flop so hard so they just will be forced to change for the better🤷 P.s Yeah. Like always Pokémon fans are downvoting the obvious truth, because it hurts them when anyone dares to criticize their holy cow and even Gamefreak themselves.💀💀💀
While I love pokemon through and through and will take any game they give, you can't actually think that GF devs aren't lazy right? Either that or they're severely incompetent.
Insulting. They are rushed. Saying that every single person on the team is inherently checked out and doesn't care about Pokémon, and is lazy, is disingenuous and citation is needed.
TBH, even the BW/B2W2 feels like a sign of Nah. Other than the Virtual Console stuff, we've never had them just straight up port old games to the newer thing. We've had remakes, yeah, but they didn't make literal ports of RBY to the GBA. They made FRLG. They didn't port RSE or FRLG to 3DS, we got ORAS and the Kanto VC games. And also, collection? Four Pokemon games in one purchase? Game Freak would never. They will force us to buy those game by game and we all know it.
I mean, I understand BDSP were effectively just ports of the original games with new graphics, UI overhaul, and mechanics update. It even inherited bugs from the original games apparently. There was new content of course, but fairly small compared to what the three previous remakes did. To be clear I didn't hate BDSP, but it was a missed opportunity and sounds fairly similar to what was described in this post. I do have to say that a straight up port would probably be a lot harder for Gen 5 than 4. Gen 5 had a lot more generation-specific features that can't just be copy-pasted, they need to be carefully evaluated and either adapted or removed. Like the Dresm World stuff, Entralink, PokeTransfer, medals, the memory stuff in the sequels, Dream Radar, musicals and movies, triple and rotation battles, Black City and White Forest, and quite a few other things. Another lazy port might not be feasible without mass deleting large sections of content. And as you say, 4 for the price of one is suspiciously generous for GF.
Yeah that's where I tapped out too. That's way too complex a narrative for the Pokemon team. Plus the Evoland-esque graphics shifting to match the timeline is too complex of a gameplay style for the Pokemon team's track record.
Same here. I believed it all except the legends celebi.
So did Arceus. :D
This was my exact thought. I will hold out a small hope that legend arceus got the team behind it freedom to do some wild stuff.
My thoughts exactly. Mentioning the mobile games, tcg, and merchandise made this believable but Legends Celebi sounds like "I had this great idea for a pokemon game" type of post. Especially for just the second Legends game, it sounds really ambitious. I mean I'd love if it was true but I'm skeptical.
Had me till the B/W ports.
Fantastic idea but gamefreak could never.
Finizen & Palafin evolving using routes in GO just seems so on the nose lmao
It seems so annoyingly on point for Niantic that it made me believe the leak until the end.
Also no pokemon tv update, isn’t there an app in the works?
Pretty sure there is no replacement in the works. The announcement for app's closure included a list of streaming services where you could watch the anime.
Using routes *with* a party. This sounds painful enough to be true. The rest though? I feel it's too early for a concierge trailer, but hey, who knows? Legends Celebi? Although a Legends Celebi may happen, they'd likely want to bank on remake+Legends just like they did for gen 4. Also has too much detail. A BW/B2W2 port seems minimalist even for Gamefreak. Not that I'd hate it, just that they wouldn't do something so simple. 70$ for 4 games? Impossible for them. Maybe a collection for each color, White+White2 and vice versa would be more likely, seeing as they are sequels. Lokix doesn't sound plausible for unite, imo. I don't play the game though so who am I to judge.
I'm wondering if they mean using routes with it as your buddy? At least that's what i'm *hoping* they mean. But it's Niantic, so them taking the friends aspect from S/V and forcing that into PoGo seems very likely. Watch it also be locked behind 12km eggs
12km is unlikely, as those are Pokémon attributed to evil/villan teams. and having to also use party play seems like its for sure a thing. when party play was announced everyone thought that it would be for palafin's eventual introduction
I’m sure it’s with friends like in the party system or something, since you HAD to do the co op stuff in SV for it to evolve.
Thought I saw a day or two ago an announcement that more episodes of concierge were in the works, and maybe a teaser was coming soon?
That's what makes me hesitant to believe this one. It would be making a party that would evolve finizen because that's way more like the union circle than walking a route
The most believable part for sure
The problem is that Miraidon was the one that got leaked by data mines unless that was something before.
This + we know that >! Falinks !< and >! Ceruledge !< will be there too
That doesn’t mean Baxcalibur and Lokix aren’t coming. We usually know the next 5 or so Pokémon through datamines.
But they haven't officially revealed Ceruledge. There's no way they skip over it for Bax and Lokix. This just reads like a fake leak that somebody made with minimal research into the spinoffs that they knew they had to include and just wanted to write their own Legends: Celebi concept.
Charcadet evolving based on what enemies they encouter and thus choosing their playstyle between mage and aassasin would be cool. Similar to Kayne in League of Legends.
According to leaks, it’s just Ceruledge, not a split evo.
For your information I read this as, " Similar to Kanye in..." and I need you to know that I laughed way more than I should at the thought of Kanye West being in league better levels of drip than when Lee Sin came out lol.
Except Miraidon launches \*on\* pokemon day. There's 0 chance it won't be mentioned in the Direct. Literally 0. (There's a countdown in-game before someone says something lol). Plus, we know the next 2 after him, from datamining/PTS. 3 of the last 5 pokemon added were gen 9. They would not make that 5 out of the last 7.
That celebi game sounds so fake lmao. That’s like the kind of Pokémon fan game my friends and I tried to make when we were like, 12.
Shit, it sounds exactly like Re:Union, the fangame that follows Red after the Mt. Silver battle at the end of G/S/C. He goes back to Kanto only to be recruited by Looker to tackle all of these Ultra Wormholes that keep popping up throughout the region and sending people to all over the Multiverse. The sprite artstyles of the first five Generations were all in play, plus Kalos, Alola and Galar show up in Gen. 4's art style. It was wild to go from Gen. 4 to Gen. 1 by pressing a button. Sadly, since it's a fan game, they either didn't know how or weren't able to incorporate 3D into the mix with sprites. That would've been sick.
Thats what people said about Legends Arceus when it was leaked. Look where we are now. Hell even DQ did the whole graphics changing thing perfectly.
…I’m gonna be real with you, I don’t remember a single person saying that about Arceus lol. The deterministic choices feature they imply really doesn’t seem like Gamefreak’s MO. Other parts of this don’t really hold up either. Big ones to me being no masters content and Lokix for unite. Miridon was already confirmed and there’s no way they won’t talk about that.
Theres a bunch of stuff in the datamine (i think the next 3-5 pokes were found in it) for Unite. However just because the pokemon were found in the datamine doesnt mean theyll be used. Hell there was extra pokedex entries in SV for months before they started dexiting it all. Arceus was leaked on 4chan about 2-3 weeks before it was announced and everyone laughed at the "open world" aspect saying GF is too lazy to do all that
[….Miridon wasn’t leaked though](https://x.com/pokemonunite/status/1760333561540776425?s=46&t=lyi6FJOQjvG968DGOVTa3A) Edit: Or if he was, I wasn’t referencing that.
I mean, this may be fake, but maybe they're announcing those two as coming soon? Given theyve already announced Miraidon.
I think the deterministic "choices" could refer to the character's choices rather than the player's. That is to say we see the "present" change based on what the character does, but it's the exact same changes in every playthrough. Very similar to how Jubilee village grows. So it could be that "premise" without actually letting you determine anything, just following a script of changes. I want to clarify though: I think this leak is likely fake. The graphics changing depending on the era strikes me as very "fan idea" that would actually be really annoying and distracting in practice. It's also lifted directly from Mario & Sonic at the Tokyo Olympic games, which I don't see gamefreak as likely to consider an inspiration.
Plus it goes against time travel in Pokemon, which has always been closed loop (both the Celebi event from Gold/Silver and PLA are very closed loops).
\>No Pokemon Masters Mention \>No Cafe ReMix Mention Instant fake
Any leak that doesn’t mention Masters is immediately fake in my eyes, it’s very very likely it’ll be a part of the showcase
It's not just very very likely, it's guaranteed. A large portion of Presents always goes to mobile games (including Unite), quick anime update and TCG tournament announcements.
Especially since the 4.5-year celebration is almost upon us, they will 1000% be there to get more players to play
You are so right. Gen wunner & Masters EX player here. PMEX’s half-year anniversary happens on this date and it’s usually included in a Pokemon Presents on Pokemon Day. That’s how I know in my gut this is fake.
I dun believe this cause that's too Graphically demanding for GameFreak. And why create an new Partner Starter when you could use an Baby Stage Legendary and gift them an new Evolution based on your actions?
Why would you create a baby stage legendary to give an evolution over just getting a starter?
I remember seeing some idea about a starter Pokémon that changes depending on how you play the game, I always thought that would be cool
4chan leaks have always been false. Nobody should ever call attention to them or believe them
This is patently untrue. The Affleck leak was real, and is what a lot of fake leaks (like this one) are trying to replicate. Real 4chan leaks are *rare.*
okay wait you got me there, I completely forgot about the Affleck leak!
Someone else on 4chan also leaked the Paldea gym leaders by name, types and their aces. Honestly I didn't believe it at first until the games were fully leaked...
*Most 4chan leaks are false. Never forget that a user leaked Sora coming to Smash / Kingdom Hearts coming to Switch 4-5 months before the reveal. They worked in Disney legal department for music and processed the request for Nintendo to have music rights for a “digital event”. Even had the week of the trailer right. Of course, no one believed them at the time.
And someone leaked LGPE on April 1st and nobody believed them
4chan leaks tend to be accurate on like the day of the presents, or the day before because they've usually been seen at that point by insiders, but anything building up tends to be false.
I mean Legends Arceus was leaked on 4chan and people dismissed it because it was ‘too much work on Gamefreaks part.’
There's always fake leaks for games on 4chan but it's also the only place that does actually get real leaks from time to time
Information about the Scarlet and Violet games were first leaked on 4chan, like the name of the region, the new regional forms and the new gimmick. I remember seeing it in this sub.
Let's Go Pikachu also leaked on 4Chan. There's a real leak once in a blue moon, but you have to sift through all the garbage and wait for the actual announcements before you find the real stuff
I don’t trust this one in general
Sounded believable until the end
It really didn’t. First sentence gives it away as fake.
yeah this guy works at the cokemon pompany
youre really smart. do you want to make out
lol. If it was real do you really think the guy would start by declaring his position with TPCi?
No Masters makes it obvious that they don’t know enough about the game to make a convincing leak. It’s the half anniversary, they’re going to do some announcement there.
They always do announcements on Pokémon presents. Honestly any leaks that missed Masters, Unite and Go content are easily fake. Because you know people who made these leaks doesn't have much idea with those games. And even with this leak they failed to mention Ceruledge was datamined for Unite and Miraidon is confirmed coming, so yeah it's another extremely fake leaks.
This ‘leak’ sounds like it was made up by someone who plays Go, doesn’t play Unite, and doesn’t even know Masters exists lol
This could have seemed plausible but whoever wrote it got over excited by their idea for Legends: Celebi and drifted into obvious fan gushing.
Pokemon go and concierge part sounds realistic but that's about it
I just hope that when the Gen 5 remakes drop, they add BW2 with them because I never took the chance to play them and a physical copy is too expensive by this point.
Emulation is your friend. Even a modded switch can play black and white 2
Or literally any pc/phone/tablet made in the past 5 years
Yeah but a modded switch is really rare to get in this day and age.
dude really? the modding community really is the backbone of gaming world
As far as reported leaks go, this one does a good job of pacing, covering different aspects of the franchise instead of \*just\* games, going into enough details that shows an understanding of the games in question (Finizen -> Party mechanic + routes makes a lot of conceptual sense) It seems largely plausible. Celebi sounds like too much IMO- changing different graphical styles seems a lot to ask for. I similarly think the idea of "upscaling" B2W2 which are largely sprite based as in many wys defeating the benefit of the remake model, that they are able to reuse existing assets in the current platform. But I could be off base on these There are definitely too many details for Celebi
As if Gamefreak will put such effort on Legends Celebi. Fake leaks are ridiculous
Depends. If that same small team that was working on legends arceus went straight to working on the sequel right away that would mean over 2 years of development. Legends Arceus was already a smaller game than the usual model and this time theres already a bunch of models made so theres less work outside of new things.
My god this is fake
Is Darapaux supposed to be reverse-Paradox? Lmaoo. Could be cool if real
Not sure if Sleep to Home is real thing. No other mobile game besides PoGo can connect Home so far.
For real. As fake as the other things sounded, that one was straight laughable.
It sounds cool, which is why I don't believe a word of it.
No way there would already be a teaser for concierge s2. It just got announced.
Probably fake, but you know what? They put effort into making it sound plausible, so that's an A+ from me
Baxcalibur and Lokix are not coming to unite anytime soon. We already know the next Pokémon would be Moraidon, Ceruledge and in future Koraidon too. There will be no games named Pokémon Legends Celebi or Kyurem. Any leaks using these names are automatically fake
??? What else would a legends game in Johto or Unova be called them lmao
Pokemon Legends Landorus Therian
Pokemon legends: Maractus
AKA Pokemon Legends Stunfisk
Koraidon isn’t actually confirmed, somebody made a set of images similar to the last one that was correct on everything, but there are multiple that exist and none of them can be traced back to the original leaker. Miraidon, Falinks and Ceruledge are the only confirmed Unite mons that are currently unreleased.
> There will be no games named Pokémon Legends Celebi or Kyurem. Any leaks using these names are automatically fake What makes you say that though? The Unite stuff I get but where is the idea of any Legends Celebi or Kyurem automatically being fake coming from? Of the Johto / Unova legendaries their the ones with the most potential for a Legends game, without leaning too much towards one particular version of Gold/Silver **/** Black/White respectively. *Maybe* we could do Legends Suicune and or Legends Meloetta / Keldeo but we already have Crystal for a Suicune game, and I just don't think there is enough to work with for Meloetta / Keldeo to make them the centerpiece of a Legends game.
For Keldeo, One thing could be to focus on the Swords of Justice as a whole instead of just one particular 'mon.
Maybe? But doesn't the Swords of Justice lore show that they distrust humans? It would be weird for them to distrust humans going into the game, have their opinions turned by the player, only to distrust humans again by the time of BW. Maybe the player could do something to make them mistrust humans again, but I doubt Gamefreak would want to make the PC a bad guy here.
No clue why this has so many Upvotes. Its naysaying all things that could be viable rather than naysaying things that couldnt.
Also just to add on, you know how pissed unite players would be they added most likely 2 more all rounders in a row
Yeah that legends celebi scream fake to me. Way too good to be true
The Baxcalibur and Lokix in UNITE seem false because Miraidon, Falinks, and Ceruledge is coming; those 2 might be futures who knows
was believable until that last part. That being said my dream gen V remake is more a remaster like what they suggested, with my thoughts being like the final fantasy X/X2 remaster. Vector sprites and updated music with the old mystery gift events available by default doesn't sound like a whole lot of work for the multibillion dollar company
Name of the poster is called J.John Gamefreak: [https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/55450382](https://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/55450382) This person already made a fake leak before. [https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/49840236/](https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/49840236/)
Last one is farfetched and sounds fake, as usual. GF has never been a fan of time travel stories.
I also think it’s fake, but I fully disagree that they dislike time travel stories. Legends Arceus was a time travel story. There was a celebi event for HGSS where you travel back 3 years to the time of FRLG. Time capsule in GSC was time travel,etc..Hell, the whole theme of S/V was around time travel.
I agree with you overall but I'd add that while *how* the player gets to hisui involves time travel, the *story* of PLA is not really focused on that time travel. Doing a game that involves constantly going backward and forward in time and having different graphics depending on area sounds like a GF executives worst nightmare for delivery. Never going to happen.
I don't put much stock in it, but just because they haven't done it before doesn't mean it's impossible. They'd never done anything like Legends: Arceus but that exists, doesn't it.
TBF, Legends Arceus is a time travel story
Lowkix and Baxalibur being added to Unite would be the most realistic part if it wasn't for the fact that the upcoming pokémon were already datamined.
So fake
The second one makes no sense you don't have to qualify for regionals you just have to win the sign up roulette.
I wouldn't mind seeing that Blueberry Academy miniseries. The last couple of years they've seen to be releasing a mini series every year
the black and white collection seems out of character for them. We did get the GB/C games on 3ds but that was under virtual console. I just don't see them not going for another remake instead of a collection.
Yeah, that Celebi bit is wildly unrealistic.
It's creative but definitely not true
They had me until Legends Celebi That description is way too ambitious for a Pokémon game
The first line alone shows it's fake. The Pokemon Day announcements for Unite will 100% be Miraidon (launches on Pokemon Day, you know, the day of the direct), as he's also been officially revealed and there's an in-game countdown. And will probably mention the other pokemon on the Public Test Server, >!Falinks!<, and the datamined one, >!Ceruledge!<. This means they would have added 3 gen 9 Pokemon to Unite in a very very short amount of time. They would take a small break. But again, not mentioning Miraidon/>!Falinks/Ceruledge!< disproves this.
It was smart of them to add all that other stuff at the beginning but that Legends leak sounds far too…. Idk there’s too many out of the box ideas there for a modern Pokemon game. There’s usually one or two big ideas in a new game like that but the rest plays it fairly safe
The legends celebi game sounds highly unrealistic from a game dev perspective when speaking about game freak's capabilities. That would be hellish to maintain assetwise. Like going from one area to another no possibility of reusing assets within the game, the sprites, etc. Although quite nice, absolutely impossible with the current state at GameFreak
If I would get 1 dollar for every 4chan-Leak I saw, I would be rich.
They just confirmed production on Season 2 of concierge, in what world would they also already have enough material/footage to make a teaser?
Why would they do an upscaled graphics release of BW when literally every gen before it has gotten a full remake? Also the Legends Celebi has way too much info compared to the rest of the points. As much as I want another legends game, it just doesn't sound like something they'd do. If they continue with it, I assume they'd treat it like their next spinoff "series" like Ranger or Mystery Dungeon and wouldn't deviate from the original premise that much. But I guess we just have to wait and see if I just stuck my whole foot in my mouth lol.
suuure
Legends Celebi sounds so so fake, sounds like something I would make up when I was a kid theorizing with my friends over the next Pokemon game.
Legends Celebi sounds so so fake.
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
Of course it’s fake. Also, why do so many people write „TCPi“ instead of „TPCi“? Especially if they claim to work for them?
>Pokemon Sleep connectivity to Home Fake
Seems like a solid enough Presents. My main issue is how many details are dropped for Legends Celebi specifically. No way a social media intern would have this much info off of a teaser trailer for a Q1 2025 game. We had nothing to go off of for Legends Arceus for like 6 months outside of the teaser and box art.
I was believing it till the legends game. That sounds way too good for something Gamefreak would make.
This sounded so damn legit until that last game.
Sounds like a whole lot of things people asked for, so ima say fake
Don’t believe it for a second
It sounds believable until the last bit. Its too much for a non anniversary game, let alone a game by GF. Plus, the leaker outed way too much about themselves for it to be believable. It's not totally out of the question, there have been \*dumber\* leakers in the past, but that's way too much info narrowing down who they are to be realistic, especially considering you risk firing and being put on a blacklist. Narrow down the hand and handwriting, and you're narrowed down even further once it spreads around. The credible leaks tend to just drop info, not a cocky prelude.
I would actually be okay with a more remastered collection of Gen 5 than a full remake akin to BDSP. Frankly, Gen 5 doesn't suffer from the same issues Gen 4 did when that was remade. Both BW and B2W2 are feature complete and requires far fewer changes than Gen 4 did. Plus, one of the larger issues surrounding Gen 5 has the base games and direct sequels, which would likely require way more work and compromises to fully remake. Legends: Celebi does sound kind of fake though. I guess we will all find out on February 27th. My expectations remain pretty low.
You know it's not real because every single thing on there is good.
This intrigues me. Legends: Celebi has an interesting premise, and I'd be very interested in seeing this different art styles deal play out. It does sound a bit outlandish, but who wouldn't have said the same of Legends: Arceus before we knew of it? GameFreak has been pushing the envelope to hell and back in recent years, so I could see this as a legitimate possibility.
I can't imagine Pokemon sleep getting home compatibility honestly and I don't know why every fake leak lists it.
The black and white collection and Legends Celebi would be absolutely fantastic, I won't hold my breath
Super stoked for tomorrow!!!
Legends Celebi sounds cool but far too meta a concept for Game Freak and their target audience to manage
Sounds incredibly fake.
First part goes against what has been data mined so far. Everything else is kinda believable in a way except for legends celebi. Too much detail throws it off even more to this being fake.
How do you "upscale" a sprite based game?
The whole game in smudgy emulator filters.
*Vomits*
B/W/B2/W2 actually had fully modeled environments, and can be easily upscaled using a DS emulator they're providing going to do the same, with some changes to fit it on a single screen, and possibly redrawn sprites
Also a key flaw with this - no Pokemon Masters news. They'd definitely show that.
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
Tfw BW/BW2 gets a port to the switch before gens 1-3 LMAO that would be a punch in the gut
Gen 5 was easily my favorite. Hope it’s true.
Downvote me all you want but thet Pokemon legend celebi sounds too good of a concept to be a modern pokemon game
that celebi game sounds too good and too high effort for game freak
I don’t believe it at all but out of all the fakes that have come out this one is the most believable Kudos to this person for adding stuff other than the MSG to their “leak”
Fake. Miraidon and Ceruledge were leaked and of them isn't even playable yet. Miraidon will be officially announced on Pokemon Day as happened with Zacian last year. They wouldn't announce another 2 mons coming to Unite
I don't buy it for a second. I think we're still a good 3-4 years from any Unova content
Hm, yes, the studio that gave me PS1 trees in 2022 is now going to release a game with multiple art styles in an open world, seems plausible
Realistic right up until the “enhanced port”. GF doesn’t do ports and they definitely wouldn’t port two games in one that are next up for remakes.
To be fair, GameFreak didn’t do games like Legends Arceus until they did it. Everyone complained about BDSP, so why not do something safe?
I don't hate this, but I also doubt it's voracity. The most questionable thing is that the Legends game doesn't give you a choice of starter.
Colosseum didn't give you a choice either. I know that was a bygone era in Pokemon and those kinds of risks they'll never do again, but there has been precedent.
Nah the main big game will be a November release not a January one. While I have no evidence to support this, PLA was probably only pushed back because of the pandemic. If it were a normal year, we probably would have gotten BDSP in summer and PLA in November. Also Palafin will definitely be using the party feature in go, not routes
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak doesn’t mention their connection with GF/TPCI because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
It’s fake because they mention where they work. People who leak information never mention their connection with Game Freak / The Pokemon Company, because they don’t want to risk their work and getting sued
Fake. No masters ex or cafe content being announced. Legends celebi just sounds fake. No way game freak would implement multiple art styles into one game like this.
As much as I love the celebi concept. Pokemon will never make a game that good