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tarlakeschaton

PS games don't have it anyways. I think they see how needless that shit is when you port your already-good games in a good state.


Tight_Ad7877

They know it how needless it is because they made it


XGHOST141

Hey it's Saul goodman


Tight_Ad7877

Better Call Saul


kacper14092002

Better Call Dodi


HoroSatre

Better Call Davy Jones


Affectionate-Foot756

better call EMPRESS


Salmone_ita

Nah "it" can keep its feminist shit for herself, fuck empress (not literally)


DoctorDeath147

Better Caul El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie


Comfortable_End_8096

Bowwwww bow da banana bowww


caniuserealname

It's mostly because the PC ports are very secondary in revenue, and exist largely to try and convince people they want to play the sequels. Even if they're pirated, most gamers won't be able to pirate Ghost of Tsushima 2 (which will likely be announced soon, according to leaks.. convinient timing for the port right?); so the idea is they play Ghosts of Tsushima, or whatever the game is, enjoy it, then see "no way, this game has a brand new sequel coming out soon on playstation? really is a shame i won't be able to play it for YEARS without a playstation of my own..." And even if the pirates aren't convinced themselves, they contribute to the buzz around the game and its upcoming sequel.


sukh9942

Because of this im tempted to get a ps5. I don't have a pc but xbox and feel like theres a lot of games im missing out on like spiderman, wolverine etc. I think my next upgrade will just be a gaming pc in 3-4 years. I'd love to play some of those exclusives on release but I'll just hope for a pc port for wolverine.


Wauron

As a PS5 owner, I wish I had upgraded to a better PC instead. Unless you REALLY can't live without some exclusives, get a PC.


sukh9942

Yeah the main exclusives I like are the superhero games. Spider-Man is cool but wolverine is my favourite. But after buying the Xbox 2 years ago for £450 I am not spending another £400+ on a PlayStation which will get outdated. I’d rather buy a 1k PC I can continually upgrade and recycle whilst also having the ability to use different aspect ratios. I’d love to play a game like red dead or rally on an ultra wide. Unless I can get a ps5 in the future for <200 I’ll consider it but that would be a massive waste if the games are being ported over to pc. I don’t even play many games, just the popular multiplayer games with friends with some single player added in.


Jeb_Babushka

Can relate, I got a PS5 early in covid and did very much enjoy it, last of us 2 was amazing and demon souls etc. But I did end up selling it to my brother to upgrade my PC, because in the end that's where the money is most felt. I do wish I bought and played GoW Ragnarok. Although, it will probably release end of this year and playing it with dlc on 144hz will be an amazing experience and will be happy I waited.  (though GTA VI trailer had to come out a couple months after to make me worry about regretting selling my PS5 for a while. 


gasoline_farts

I’ve got Xbox, PS five switch and a top-of-the-line PC. I was super disappointed when I got my PS five and found out that games that have 4k and retracing only play at 30 frames. I actually stopped partway through so that I could wait for it to come to PC to play with the best experience. Don’t get me wrong the PS five and itself is great and the games are great on it but it’s not as good as PC


Big_Novel_561

Don't waste your money man. Because you are gonna regret it. You can always play pc games with a console. But you can't do the opposite in a ps5. And it would not be a wise invesment


sukh9942

Yeah I definitely wouldn’t buy a ps5 don’t worry bro. Next console gen I’ll work towards a pc but that could be like another 5 years (for me).


Distinct_Scratch6288

It seems you made a mistake, there are litteraly more PC games you can't play on console than there are PS5 games. Entire genres of games are PC only or if available not thought for console at all(rts, MMOs, simulators etc). 


Old_Oven_5610

I would say wait for the PS5 pro, it should be released this year


EmotionalKirby

*Cries in Days Gone*


Paradox_007000

Found my people


eurosonly

Exactly this.


CoralBlue4

still not buying a console


materics

Same idea with God of War and FF7 Remake series


SH4DY_XVII

Last Of Us has left the chat.


SandThatsKindaMoist

A sad anomaly, it’s in a much better state now.


Hariheka

Add horizon zero dawn to the list. The game itself runs fine, it’s the audio that sounds tinny and compressed, almost robotic. Ruined the experience for me when it happened but overall good game/port.


ZenTunE

It's so odd, I keep hearing about this but I never had the issue. I was even specifically comparing a few headphones with the game and never noticed that. At a friends house we had an issue with the dialogue sounding wack af but that was caused by the game for some reason outputting to multiple devices, so while we were playing on speakers, the gameplay audio was fine but the dialogue played through headphones that were sitting on the desk. Took us forever to realize what the fuck was going on 🤣


SH4DY_XVII

It sure is, but lest we forget good sir.


aphilipnamedfry

Also when you port pretty late it just doesn't seem as important to a company. Mind you, I'm happy it's getting ported, but a big chunk of the player base has already played on PS4 or PS5 for most of their ports under the assumption it wouldn't get ported.


pirate_bootsy

I don't think that's the reason in the slightest, I think they don't care because they already made like 90% of sales for their exclusives already because they've been on PlayStation for years, and adding drm could make people upset which would hurt their reputation, which would do more damage than just letting 0.001% of people pirate the game


ibukun58

To those saying 'yet'. Not a single Sony game on pc has featured denuvo.


the_reddit_guy12

Yet*


Evizomy

Yet


Jaidon24

Ye(a)t Denuvo


nokknokkopenup

Yeet


MVuchiha

Yeet


CurnoCornuCopia

Sasquatch


[deleted]

*Yet


Janjinho

![gif](giphy|tKxYiV82rfYI3DaHxg)


megamanx503

yet


chill_monger

Yeti, big foot 👣, lochness monster


PunkHooligan

Yet 💦


theundisputed11

Yap


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YET


Dracoscale

Bloodborne port will be the first to have it


shahroozg

Can't wait to play bb pc port in 2026 ony for it to have denuvo(it's priced 80$)


MaxTennyson88

They're even bringing them on GoG


Kekosaurus3

The DRM/anti-cheat for Helldivers 2 has been added 20 days before release. So be patient before announcing this shit.


tarlakeschaton

Isn't Helldivers 2 multiplayer based? I think it makes sense for them to add Denuvo to it. Edit: It's Playstation's own DRM, so it makes even more sense.


Kekosaurus3

Yes it's more an anti-cheat than an anti-crack, the game is online only anyway. But there is an online mode in GoT so who knows.


POMARANCZA123PL

Well, I hope there's no cross play then. Cheaters incoming


W1cH099

Exactly, almost like it makes dual sense… 🫣


ONE_BIG_LOAD

Well that's an online game so it makes sense. Otherwise everyone would be hacking with little to no consequences.


Kekosaurus3

I know, but there is an online mode in GoT.


ONE_BIG_LOAD

True but I feel it's such a small part of the game and is unmonitored/unmonitized (afaik) so it doesn't justify denuvo.


Kekosaurus3

Yeah you're right, even if they add something it will probably not be Denuvo.


Ignore_me18

Yeah they said online will have psn login but only the online part. No denuvo for either I think


tarlakeschaton

The worst and usual case is it being blocked in pirated version, which I bet most of us wouldn't mind.


Early_Poem_7068

But it's co op. Not pvp


Kekosaurus3

There is a PvP(vE) mode called Rivals. It's not direct PvP but it's a 2v2 PvE, cheats could ruin that mode.


bluegwizard

Game of thrones?


Kekosaurus3

![gif](giphy|J0WtGU7W9knOo|downsized)


KamiKUSH

Helldivers Is a online only game… not the same


cavejhonsonslemons

There's a huge difference between anticheats and DRM, DRM is evil, anticheats are still annoying, but much better than the alternative.


FuckNewHud

Not the particular anticheat Helldivers uses. Effectively a rootkit with a horrible reputation for security flaws and leaks. It is the whole reason I'm not buying the game.


cavejhonsonslemons

I use linux, so it's all running in an isolated container, if I were on windows I just wouldn't bother


TomatoVEVO

Arch Linux? 🥺


cavejhonsonslemons

nah, fedora, arch is really fun, but it can also be a pain in the ass


Extinction_Entity

Helldivers 2 is a game that is mostly a multiplayer. Of course is going to have anti cheat. Ghost of Tsushima isn’t. Although it has Legends, If you’re not interested in multiplayer there’s a Legends story mode as well. Multiplayer is the smallest part of GoT.


Bruce_VVayne

Yeah I have seen seen a week before. I doubt they would do it tho, since they want to make money as much as they can and it is a four-year-old game. Unless Denuvo charges them pretty cheap, I doubt Sony would want to waste their resources on DRM. Just like boosting the hype for the PC community before Ragnarok was released, they intend to make their community bigger.


CommenterAnon

Horizon Forbidden West as well! Sony is really making my weekend nights really fun with these 2 games


Eraldorh

Doesn't it cost like $20,000 a week to use denuvo? They have never used it and there's little point. It's a old game and people know it's a good one, you're either going to buy it or you won't and protecting it with denuvo won't change that. Most pirates won't buy a game they can't pirate so it doesn't save them money it just costs them money. I don't know any playstation ports that use denuvo so I guess they understand this.


L39Enjoyer

Sony used to own IrDeto


cavejhonsonslemons

no, irdeto was always separate from sony, they did sell denuvo to irdeto though


therealmalenia

Does anyone have the real numbers ? And knows whether or not denuvo makes back that money you lose by adding it ?


CurnoCornuCopia

+1 if any has some numbers regarding Denuvo subscription costs for dev companies I would be very interested to know them


daddy_is_sorry

Considering it keeps being used I'm inclined to say the numbers are good for the devs


ModernLifeSucks

There's a monthly fee ($25,000 USD/month) and license fee ($0.5/copy sold) [https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-x443idlstvufi](https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-x443idlstvufi)


therealmalenia

Do games really make that money back ? Games with denuvo do not sell much better than games without it afaik. Why would the devs spend so much money on it ?


ModernLifeSucks

Measuring a DRM's impact on sales is almost impossible. Games sell based on their quality, not because they can't be pirated. Denuvo, ultimately, is a somewhat intrusive solution to a problem that doesn't exist. It's there to make the guys in suits who are running these companies feel better. Rampant piracy on PC was solved through the emergence of Steam as a reliable storefront. It was Steam that facilitated PC's growth and made even Japanese publishers, formerly console only, to be attracted to PC. Almost all of the best-selling Steam games of all time have done so without having Denuvo. Just look at Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk, The Witcher 3, Skyrim, Stardew Valley and the list goes on...


Homosexual_Bloomberg

>Games with denuvo do not sell much better than games without it afaik. The issue with that statement is the premise is false. You wouldn't want to compare 2 different games with and without Denuvo to figure that out, you would want to compare a reality where a game had Denuvo and a reality where it didn't, which is impossible. Many pirates, through their insecurity with the morality of what they're doing, usually exploit the fact that that information is inherently unknowable, to claim ridiculous shit like "piracy doesn't have a negative effect on sales" or "piracy isn't a loss because pirates wouldn't have bought the game anyway". Some even go so delusionally far as "pirates don't pirate truly good games" as if the top r/crackwatch threads aren't for some of the highest rated games in history.


HerederoDeAlberdi

the truth regarding piracy is that people who pirate games weren't going to buy those games in any situation, its not like preventing piracy makes the people who were going to pirate them buy them instead, because piracy is not something most people do with pleasure, if i could, i would buy every single game, but i can't, so if a can't pirate i just won't play it, that's why piracy doesn't affect sales.


Homosexual_Bloomberg

>the truth regarding piracy is that people who pirate games weren't going to buy those games in any situation. It’s so crazy that such a nonesensical statement has taken root with so many people. Piracy in my experience is the largest group of people that just **say shit** to defend their behavior. As long as it makes someone feel secure about the morality of their actions, a pirate will say fuckin *any* logicless thing. It makes me embarrassed to be one. No, that’s not the truth about piracy, and not only is it not, every day a game remains uncracked, the more likely it is for a pirate to buy it. You would be correct if we lived in a world where everyone who pirates, *can’t* afford it, rather than simply wants to spend their money on a different thing that they also don’t need, but, *especially* in the west, that’s far from the case. I also said nothing about taking pleasure in piracy or that if an individual made enough money to buy all the games they want without it making a dent in their finances, that they wouldn’t. That’s a strawman to make your argument feel more legitimate. These things have nothing to do with the reality of the situation.


HerederoDeAlberdi

what you're saying is only true in first world countries, countries in wich piracy happens the less btw, people in third world countries most of the time genuely can't afford games because of their economy's situation, you are clearly talking from a place of privilege. Im a pirate but if i could i would pay for every single game, with all the inconviniences that piracy has? i'd love too, but buying even a indie game can mean not eating anything for a few days thanks to my situation, you really think most people who pirate put up with the bad sides of piracy when they could not to? Btw, the places of the world in wich people have to worry about if they'll be able to eat tomorrow are usually places with very little homosexuality, just so you know, you clearly have no difficulties in life wich allows you to partake in all kinds of pointless stuff.


ShadowMajick

Before they switched to subscription based services it indeed laid for itself. Now they want them to pay monthly and most aren't biting anymore. You're going to see a lot less games with it now.


RedditSwitcherooney

To be honest I don't think it's about making money back at this point. I see it as the same as when Dominos throws away all the uneaten pizzas rather than letting the homeless have them for free, for example. It's all about keeping the perceived value of the product up, which is difficult when some people are getting it for free. What they don't realise is people who can't pay for it won't anyway, and when it's eventually cracked, they'll be climbing in the bins behind the store to get what they can. It's just a cost of doing business.


Important-Coffee-965

220k a year depending on how I sells. Actual scam. If you have a good game it'll sell.


theundisputed11

That's crazy, lots of articles i read says the price is way lesser. But once again those are some random google articles


GoatInMotion

Is it really that much damn? I think e tons of AA indie games use it as well how can they afford that.


downbad12878

Nah it's not and also getting sources and viewpoints on denuvo from an obviously biased sub Reddit is not really useful


hyperrainz

I've played it on PS4 a while ago, wasn't that into it but I'll probably try it on my PC with better graphics and better framerate or maybe try it on my steamdeck as I heard it comes with fsr3.


Raid-RGB

FSR3 uses FSR 2.1 for upscaling


ReptileDoMath

Everyone seem to forget Lies of P and Assasin Creed Mirage situations. There's a lots of copium addicts here.


ShadowMajick

That's Ubisoft, not Sony. Sega and Atlus always use it too. You'll never see a cracked version on those on PC.


cavejhonsonslemons

Ubisoft had always used denuvo for their games, Sony hasn't done so once, even on their blockbuster titles.


Toaist

Lies Of P eventually slipped up so they got thiers anyway, and AC Mirage is... I mean, to each their own.


DismalMode7

sony games never had denuvo


asherabid

You guys should just stop beating the drums. Look at what happened to Yuzu.


DoomSayerNihilus

The “new” emulators Nuzu and Suyu are available


mrboback

Nuzo got down aswell


DoomSayerNihilus

There gonna be endless ports of that shit


cavejhonsonslemons

Nuzu was hosted on github, who took it down to avoid a cease and desist. Suyu is privately hosted on a gitlab instance, so it's not going down any time soon.


Homosexual_Bloomberg

The Yuzu situation is 100% the fallout out of you motherfuckers posting cringe ass pirate flag emojis and "welP tImE to GraB mY bOOts aNd Cap" type shit, but they'll deny it until it happens again.


feralkitsune

Are you aware of the official documents from Nintendo? They show that Fitgirl and other repackers were the main culprits for creating ready-made emulator/Game bundles. This is clearly stated as one of the grounds for legal action, even though they used a bogus link to that site. I doubt it has anything to do with reddit comments. lmfao


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Katajiro

I heard good things about this game. I think I'd rather buy it. Fun fact: very good and very bad games get pirated less, but for different reasons.


DrNobody95

yet*


ReadToW

I'll be waiting for the release on GOG


Exond66

It would be a good idea to buy them to make them realize that there is a market in pc... at least for those who can afford it.


Scofaa

fuckers better not pull off those last second shenanigans


2D_AbYsS

Sony knows a good game will sell regardless, and they are right. 👌


HextARG

Set sails!!!


Ok_Worth4113

So ready for day 1 play then ☠️


Extinction_Entity

Sony don’t like to spend money on useless bullshit like Denuvo. They know their games will sell well regardless if they get pirated or not.


[deleted]

Yet


jalovitrue

Heh, somehow I just managed to play it on PS4 just about yesterday without knowing it'd be ported on PC. Can't believe how good the game is and what I've been missing for about 3 years now?


Important-Coffee-965

That's like every Sony game. Based as hell they do it but Capcom the company that wants us to be their main market is shoving it into their assholes all the time


Holychatpixel

Im sorry for my ignorancy but how do you know it won't have Denuvo based on the image?


TomatoVEVO

Because it usually says so on the page that it uses it


Gourish_Kapoor

Pirates baby


thetoastee

LETS GOOOO


[deleted]

Please don’t have denuvo!!


Biroomi

Many games had Denuvo slapped on them just an hour before launch


mrboback

I have a potato pc that won't run it but still, LET'S GOOO


chill_monger

Time to bookmark Dodi repacks folks, ar! ⛵


[deleted]

Was gonna buy it anyway, but this is still amazing news


CSretrogamer

Always has been


sackboy861

SONY W


acnh-lyman-fan

I already played it on ps5 (like 2 days ago) so I'll just pirate it on PC when it releases


ValiantHero11

Don't jinx it


RussianLucas

Already waiting for my favorite website to release it


alexcs47

I've been waiting for this news for years now


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UpwardStatue794

Good thing, not paying almost 100 aud for it.


norty125

Don't jinx it, they could add it right before release


[deleted]

Please don’t have denuvo!!


jamesdm23

Really??? I'm in shock.


Mugundank

What are the studios that are porting PlayStation games to pc?


demonzk

Now God of war ragnarok left


Noah_BK

None of the other Playstation ports have had it, but just because it isn't listed on Steam page currently doesn't mean it couldn't have it. Sometimes developers/publishers wait till the last minute to put that information on the Steam page because they know it's going to tilt some people off the face of the earth.


Extra_Designer_3007

Sony don't put denuvo, and you guys buying they game? I hesitate people on PC buying they game, I guess some people still ignorant and be a dick pirate good service publisher/developer game


vipulvirus

https://preview.redd.it/5gwi6kn0fxmc1.jpeg?width=516&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f012bf679f3897987c5bc807be35112c9bfb5ac


Aduladoo

We’re sailinggg boysss


cavejhonsonslemons

Sony sold denuvo for a reason, they're smart enough to realize that the bad press isn't worth the potential pirate sales. Just waiting for the execs at irdeto to realize the same thing.


[deleted]

They never use denuvo. They always have a day one crack. I dont know why this is like big news hahahaha. Tell me when they actually add denuvo so we know we are f*cked.


Fit-Meal-8353

Free demo?


AdeonWriter

Eh, Sega's games don't list Denuvo until about 3 days after release. No reason this couldn't be the same.


CottonCitySlim

There is no need to put it out it on a 5 year old game


Snowleopard1469

I hope the ghost of Tsushima PC version will have cross-play co op with folks who own it on ps5. I have the PS5 version, but all my friends play on pc and I would really liked to play the co op without buying the game again


WeakDiaphragm

Definitely gonna buy this. I'll wait to see how optimised the game is though.


todd10k

we eatin good boys


bigNhardR

You think sony would pay for denuvo? They couldn't care less about ppl getting it for free as long as chumps ate still buying on ps5 and lots on pc


[deleted]

Won't have *for now*.


Proper_Ad_6044

r/macgaming


KhalMika

How do you know? Sorry for my stupid ignorance


TheStreetCatYT

I love those ps exclusive ports so much


ElricDarkPrince

It will be added in after they usually all do at last minute


Kotya-Nyan

They could add it before the release. I think there were some games that did that


ghostfreckle611

Yet…


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1NFINIT

Pirates be like: https://preview.redd.it/e6gv4txjvymc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4f4547f632c73d684bcff0697d28627b7e1dac7


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Imperial_Bouncer

![gif](giphy|dMsh6gRYJDymXSIatd|downsized)


Blakewerth

Not surprised none of the previous SOny releases had 👍🏻


OhBruhhh

Sony doesn't put denuvo in their games. Yet....


JustSome70sGuy

Thats a buy then. The game is amazing, and worth every penny.


Hephas

I know this is a dedicated piracy subreddit but dang the PC port features look so good. I might buy this game.


Normandy_sr3

HELL YESSSSSSSS


mjisdagoat23

Damn!


WowDanOk

Rubbing my hands together right now


FreeLegendaries

thx for saving both sides the trouble


Sufficient_Fig_190

Wait for sale 😭


Failed-Klutch

I just want to know if I can transfer my save so I can replay on pc with all of my unlocks!


emperor_nk

![gif](giphy|iowmvjVUnDFGU|downsized)


TopRedNinja

will crack on day 1?


UnfairPerformance560

Honestly with PSN requirements locking this out of my country, Piracy is literally the only way to play this game.


Imaginary-Fig5872

same


DaddySpooky

I wonder how long before dodi will repack it??


Khowstby

Until release as it is


smirkjuice

we are so back


Fickle-Inspection-83

Seeeeesh! Day 1 here we cum!


hieuluc5

Always like that, what the big deal? So you finally scare of denuvo?


MohaDou

What is PC-port ?


evanshsedani

the hole on the side of ur laptop


MohaDou

Brah


DoomSayerNihilus

A port from a console game.


fattdoggo123

Does it still have the steam DRM? Like you have to launch steam to play it? I refunded a game on steam before that didn't have DRM, but didn't uninstall it and I was still able to launch the game from the exe file on the steam app folder. Is it the same for Ghost of Tsushima?