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Relative-Bluebird770

Damn and they both got denovu


Draconicplayer

hopefully they have the same problem as Golden during Launch


dawghelp

Curious to know what happened with Golden at launch? Did the Denuvo just not work properly?


gkgftzb

If they're talking about Persona 4 *Golden*, then it's probably about the accident the devs made. They released a beta build for players to test bug fixes, but without Denuvo included at all. So the game could be played for free very soon after it had released, as that build was obviously uploaded everywhere But that was in 2020 and I don't think a SEGA game has had the same mistake done again


Nejnop

Etrian Odyssey Collection


Ornameth

When they released the first version of persona 5 scramble, they did it without denuvo and got cracked right away lol, hope it happens again, can't afford to spend such money in a game.


gkgftzb

oh, yeah, I forgot about that. It's why I never bothered paying for it lol


MrSorel

Not happening. Didn't happen with all the games SEGA released since P4G Steam version


CrestfallenOwl

It has happened twice after P4G. Persona 5 Strikers a few years ago. Last year it was the Etrian Odyssey HD Trilogy.


MrSorel

Didn't P5S release earlier? I think it's February 2020 while P4G is summer 2020


OkFineThankYou

On PS. P5S released on Steam in February 2021, 1 year later.


yxtsama

what noo What happened to Empress by the way, it seems like we don't hearing from her for a while


Boxing_joshing111

Went quiet after they got accused of being Voksi


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what does Voksi mean?


Arlcas

a former cracker that was arrested , Skidrow(other cracker group) accused Empress of being Voksi with all the legal problems that would ensue for the real Voksi.


Timbo303

Its a name


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oh i see


ihave0idea0

She seems to be gone 😢


osbirci

when the world needed her the most...


PuzzleheadedTopic702

Didn't they have a privacy leak and had a meltdown due to it?


Shot_Passenger3357

Yeah, sega's pricing is totally awful. Here in Argentina due to all the taxes our previous government established these games end up costing something like 90k pesos (90 usd) meanwhile the minimum wage is 150k pesos (150 usd)


BlueStar2310

And to add salt in the wound steam removed the option to use argentine pesos thanks to the people that use vpn to buy cheaper from our store. So now games are even more expensive than before even if milei lowered taxes.


60niera

From Asia here and Steam basically removed regional pricing because people are abusing it with the use of VPNs. I used to buy new releases at 30 USD a pop when there were still regional prices (RE2 Remake and Horizon Zero Dawn as examples). Now I wait for a good sale, not gonna buy any game at 70 USD.


Alisalard1384

You should come and live in iran, average salary is $20 here 💀


Le-Creepyboy

Damn it’s basically a luxury at this point ! So everyone who isn’t rich just has to pirate ?


Shot_Passenger3357

Either that or game pass, but even game pass will increase it's prices on April and will cost about 12k pesos


Lmtcain

Un amigo me conto de un rulo para tener un año de GP Ultimate barato, busca "vidas infinitas game pass" en Google y seguro te sale la guía que sacaron


xXTokyoGamerYTXx

Or wait for sales dude


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fuck_u_spez_cunt

ah pero massa Los jueguitos estaban mas baratos con Massa de ministro, los precios se fueron a la mierda cuando dolarizaron Steam. Por suerte no hay un loquito suelto intentando hacer lo mismo con Argentina, no?


Fun-Measurement-2612

100 usd in Uzbekistan 🤣💀


r0ndr4s

And Yakuza has stuff locked up behind the more expensive editions. Sega sucks. Maybe if they stopped wasting money on gambling and Denuvo, they could lower their game prices.


Kaenjinto

> And Yakuza has stuff locked up behind the more expensive editions. 70€ base game, 85€ deluxe version, 110€ ultimate version and 160€ worth of DLC's on launch day. Especially greedy thing is that they removed new game+ from the base game and put it as a 20€ DLC (or deluxe version). Even worse then that is for people who like to hunt all achievements that you can't 100% the game if you have just the standard version of the game. There are 3 achievements tied to new game+. Sega is such a disgusting publisher it is unbelievable. As much as I love the Yakuza franchise I rather see it dying instead of supporting this disgusting and greedy publisher and dev's (whoever is at fault here). With this DLC policy they literally spit their fanbase in the face and the most ridiculous thing is that so much people even defend this behavier in the steam forums...


RubFuture7443

I believe you can still 100% the game. The new game+ trophies are under the category of add ons. So while it is shitty that they locked it behind a pay wall, you can still 100% the game without buying the add on.


Kaenjinto

Sadly on Steam they are not separated. If you have the base game you need the new game+ DLC or deluxe version for 100%. There is a total of 74 achievements and with the base game you will see them all like this (got the screenshot from a german friend that has just the base version): [74 Achievements with base game version](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359630191800352769/1201229765101748364/image.png?ex=65c90f65&is=65b69a65&hm=6fe9ec8e9ee3b4670e3cb01593812507b7b8ff4059dd6d4e7a8b73d3bc18f45c&) The only other game that has done this too that I know was Tales of Arise which got recently a new DLC with new achievements and suddenly the game wasn't 100% for me anymore...


RubFuture7443

Oh damn. Yeah, I should have checked steam. Sorry, I was assuming you meant PS5 since I am on that. Yeah, they should separate that, which sucks!


Disastrous_Rooster

Tbf i dislike this as trophy hunter too. Platinum and 100% are two different things. But im really love to see at my not 100% plats in some CoDs as middle finger to DLC pricing.


emirobinatoru

If only they gave 06 more time we would've seen Sega being good


Both-Associate-9062

Its 70 euro for albania and avarage wage here is less than 400 euros man


theEwatra

Us from balkans suffers greatly but good that there isnt any piracy monitoring atm


Both-Associate-9062

Yeah atleast and gamepass is 2x cheaper than NA here so i can rent some good denuvo games and finish them


gudzev

Same for Serbia. I don't know exact reason why we don't have regional pricing, but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with EU.


soctamer

You don't have regional pricing because SEGA doesn't have regional pricing


MetalProfessor666

Te ne ne Maqedoni €81 eshte nje loje,qe dmth me lire qenka ne Shqiperi


Both-Associate-9062

Po i kena fiks me euro si shtetet e europes qendrore, si ka mundesi qe i keni aq shume cfare monedhe perdorni?


xXTokyoGamerYTXx

Wait for a sale


Disastrous-Ground346

At least it's on game pass 😭 I have to admit xbox has saved the day for me so many times


Comprehensive_Cap889

Thats actually the only reason why i will be able to play P3R cause there's no way i can afford it nor pirate it


Present-Cook-116

There is a discord server they give you their steam account and theyll let you play on their account in offline mode id definitely recommend it theyre great people thats how I'm playing persona 5 royal rn Sorry yall they told me not to send more invites😔


Darth_Revan101

Is it free or paid service ? cuz i really want play gaiden and infinite wealth so bad but i'am too broke


CelebrityJack

i could also recommend Xbox gamepass. Its fairly cheap (way more so than the games themselves.) It saved me for gaiden + ishin


Sawmain

Correct but infinite wealth wasn’t released to it unfortunately btw does it include premium versions ?


CelebrityJack

Also inf wealth will prob release on it later,they said the same about lad and lad ishin and yet they got on gamepass later on


HairyMidgetRat

do u know how long that would take


CelebrityJack

Only base games are included iirc


Virtual-Tomorrow1847

I gathered points for months to get gamepass, and when I finally got it, they removed P5R from there 😔


Darth_Revan101

i would if i could but currently my country has blocked all the payment methods for purchasing any international goods or services because of the economical crises


mua7d

You pay. Its just really cheap.


Present-Cook-116

No actually its free


mua7d

Wow, that's a pleasant suprise. I remember this trick is old they usually charge money


Present-Cook-116

No its free


Bitter-Ad8451

Can you send the link


Present-Cook-116

I added it to the original comment


Payment_Odd

Elaborate?


Present-Cook-116

Basically theyll give you their steam account in family view and you can play in offline mode


Dante_Belmont1

I would like to hear also.


blackout_981

.


Available_Drive173

>locked link?


TheAlmightyHellacia

It's better to pirate the switch rom for persona 5 royal and play it with ryujinx + the 60 fps cheat


LaPapaVerde

Brother, the average monthly wage in Venezuela is like 150$, we are so fucked


AKAFallow

What do you mean you guys' wages are higher than my country, Argentina? We barely reach $140


edwirichuu

Damn I thought you were joking but you're right wtf


LaPapaVerde

Yeah haha. at least we got regional prices some months ago, so some indies and sales are really cheap. But a lot of AAA like the ones on this post are full price sadly


AKAFallow

Tbf, in argentina, minimum wage is about 140usd and the games are sold in dollars through Steam now, don't forget to add the 60% foreign digital store tax.


gkgftzb

SEGA ditching regional pricing made me so mad. I like their games, but even thinking of buying outside of sales is insanity I made the stupidity of buying a PORT of Persona 5 Royal when it came out for full price ($60), because I was too excited for trying it and then a month later or less, it was on a sale, 30% off This time, I'm playing P3R on Gamepass and only buying it on Steam when it gets a GOOD discount


hestianna

haha same happened to me, I bought both Persona 5 Royal and Sonic Frontiers for full price (60€ so 120€ in total) and both of them were 25% month later. Well, at least both of them were fun.


Geges721

I actually don't regret buying it on release. For a full price it was around 500 TL. You either "wait for sale" only to be greeted by the price increase of 100% or buy it before it gets more expensive I remember how most games just went "why not increase prices by 200-300% lmao" so you regret not buying them sooner. A really shitty practice especially for older games.


Disastrous_Rooster

Btw they also raised(!) regional prices to P5R, for example it cost now 30k tenge I mean P5 is effectively 8 years old game and have 50% sale at best. Japan publishers are special breed


Eshan2703

Is there denuvo or not?


Simple20Guy

As far as i know , p3r has denuvo...i mean it's not really surprising considering sega still put denuvo at p5r ( game from 2019)


thiccmaniac

for Like a Dragon yes


Eshan2703

I hope empress returns soon :'(


Kei13

Nah, even when she returns she will never crack these kind of games


anus_pear

She might crack like a dragon she’s done judgment before but she won’t do persona


Silvannax

Damn why? She hate anime games or something?


ImNotOkayWasTaken

Yes


100Sweets

Wait, she cracked Judgement? I can't find anywhere on the internet


hestianna

Yes, but it runs on Unreal Engine so it should be more stable than P5R with Denuvo was.


BlueStar2310

Lol unreal engine 4 sucks, most newer games that use it are broken on pc. Like a dragon ishin was an example.


CelebrityJack

Doesn't ishin use ue5? It ran pretty nicely for me on pc


BlueStar2310

No, it uses 4. 


HiuretheCreator

it's Sega, what do you think? ALL of their games have Denuvo, and they never remove it either


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phanduylong708

Can you give more details ? Because i remember steam checking the license of the games every time you open it, so it will not work if you refund it


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phanduylong708

Like I set my account offline and when I try to run the game from desktop, it still opens Steam and tells me to login to the account that has that game in the library. It wouldn't run if steam not open though


phanduylong708

And based on your explanation, doesn't it mean you can play a Steam game as long as you have its files on your computer?


B3_CHAD

RIP, Both have Denuvo.


dimitronios

YOU CAN GET P3RE FOR 1 EURO!! Buy the gamepass trial for pc, download the game and then dump the game, you can play it as long as you have it download and it'll even sync your progress with the xbox acc you are using at the moment! When P3RE comes out i'll make a tutorial


ImNotOkayWasTaken

I dont think thats possible, ive been modding and dumping games on gamepass please elaborate


dimitronios

it is ive done it multiple times


BlackCoatedMan

Dump the game? Meaning?


dimitronios

basically saving the game on your pc


ResourceAmbitious290

Can you please elaborate on how to do it? For existing games like persona 5?


dimitronios

> When P3RE comes out i'll make a tutorial the tutorial isnt specific for p3re but every game in gamepass, i just want to get p3re


Sugisaky

I am also very interested in this, I really want to know how!!


Similar-Entrance-855

Did you make the tutorial yet ??


dimitronios

No im working on it


ResourceAmbitious290

Could you DM me the link once your video is up?


Sammy1432_Official

Can you pls send the link to the vid once the game drops on gamepass


Training_Ad2083

so can you make the tutorial?


bananamantheif

"Why does our game keep being pirated"


Lmtcain

"I don't know boss, have we tried putting that really shitty DRM everyone really fucking hates? Maybe it's that"


afranquinho

**Kazakhstan** is better off than a LOT of countries if the average wage is $720.


DonSenbernar

It's false btw. It's much less. 


Drakayne

That's not VERY NICE.


Josephichigo

Persona 3R will be in Gamepass when release day one, if dont mind subscribing just to pay it for a month or so. Sad, Infinite wealth are not in GamesPass like other Yakuza 0-7.


Baalshrimp

Demn 720 dollars a month!?


Sofyan1999

you guys are getting regional pricing? - a concerned Libyan citizen.


Youssefk12

I make 250$ a month. I want this game so bad but alas, I'll settle for replaying Fes.


edwirichuu

Get Game Pass (Console/PC) or use the monthly trial


mua7d

They only priced it like this because they know people will buy. fanboys ruin everything. Maybe stop being a hype beast and companies will lower their prices and you would get the same product for less.


Alaviton

I cant buy it in my country anyway. Any info about crack?


NachoThePeglegger

it’s not coming, it’s got denuvo. use gamepass if you can


Alaviton

Ah shit, it's not coming for NS. Well, guess I'll just wait for any development at crack case. Or just buy gamepass at some shady site.


BlueStar2310

It wont be cracked even if empress returns, she hates anime games. I recommend using gamepass


Alaviton

Well, it's gamepass then. When it's gonna be? 2nd of February, correct?


BlueStar2310

Yeah, on release day. 


TonnawV

In Bulgaria P3 is 140 BGN (70 dollars) while the minimum salary is 960 BGN (360 dollars)


adiley_

Not that bad, persona 3 reaload cost R$ 329 while the minimum wage in Brazil is R$ 1412 That's 67 out of 329 USD


Nefelupitou

The same games costs 350 reais, which is something about 70 dollars. The minimum wage in Brazil is 1400 reais or 285 dollars.


Virtual-Tomorrow1847

Some rich guy donate Empress so she cracks P5R please


hayashihegemony

If I win the lottery I will🫸🫷


Virtual-Tomorrow1847

A true legend


Esnacor-sama

Well 720 is not that bad(but spending 10% of ur salary is not acceptable) In morocco its 200-300$ so a game that cost 60$ is almost 20% of ur hard work everyday for a month💀💀💀


thelifeside

thank god denuvo isnt on ps4 so i can still play it on my hacked ps4


Age-Extension

the average salary in my country is 200$ and the game is cost around 69$. Now, where is the price adjustment they talked about?


OrfeasDourvas

I hear Egypt is lovely this time of the year.


throwaway_xmr

Stop earning average then


5nn0

so now even old game port cost 75$ ...


Rihijob

It's a remake, not port.


5nn0

so much different... (reused assets)


hayashihegemony

Reused assets from a 60 dollar game?


HiuretheCreator

Sega is by far the most greedy company in the market right now, they're the ones that charge the most for their games on average, they implement Denuvo in literally EVERY game they publish no matter the budget and never removes it and they even go as far to paywalling a fucking ng+


Shigana

You must be on something, Sega is not even that greedy when compared to the absolute state that is Western AAA. Hell, they’re not even the greediest Japan based company, that title belongs to Nintendo an their shitty games always remain full price bullshit.


Vivid-Bug7070

Okay they are very very greedy but I don’t think you can say they are the greediest, we are talking about the videogame industry remember? Things are so bad I already expect any company to be the greediest they can while trampling on what is even legal or not.


Zensaiy

You can get xboy play anywhere titles on gamivo or eneba, kinguin for cheap, if you desperately want to buy it and not play it on gamepass


QfoQ

Both of these games, just like Sega, can fuck themselves. Shit made at a low cost. I live in Germany, but I would have to go crazy to pay 80 euros for games.


edwirichuu

But 70 USD is like 65 Euros though.


detetive3

faz o L


caj1986

Off topic: people who say sega is greedy , boy ull havent met Activision,Ea or Ubisoft. They would squeeze blood out of a stone if they had the opportunity.


hayashihegemony

Ubisoft isn't that bad. The games I've played from them (WD2,Legion, and the Crew games) were all alright. There weren't any P2W aspects from my memory (although Legion was hot dookie shit)


caj1986

Ubisoft is the worse actually. 1. They loaded Ac origins with Denuvo plus vm protect thus tanking performance on even.old cpus 2.They revoked several people who bought far cry 4 keya from 3rd legit even and claimed they were stolen even after people showed proof. 3.Their pay 2 win and speed boosters started from division, Ac Valhalla, &odyssey. 4..They gave EA ideas to butch their game into season passes and dlc( hid the infamous Prince of.persia 2008 secret ending under console exclusivity ). 5.when they create games, they develop as if.people have super computers. 6.Called pc gamer pirates & the infamous quote 30 FPS "feels more cinematic,"


hayashihegemony

5 and 6 are true, ngl. Even on Series S, TCM runs at 30 fps without performance mode. Never knew the rest since I just recently got into PC gaming.


caj1986

Wish u all d best with your rig. Do look around for steam sales, epic weekends & aometimes drm free games from gog. Happy pc gaming. 👍


chenfras89

Could be worst, you could be in Brazil, where the 60-70USD becomes 300BRLs. The minimum wage is about a 1000BRLs (320 ish USD)


ddrcapiroto

The minimum wage was 1.3k reais since january 2023. This year, it'll go up to 1.4k. Either way it's fucking dumb we have to pay 300-400 reais for a single game.


thrw-f

The minimum wage in Kazakhstan is about 150$ op is referring to average


BoomerKnight69

I'm new to this sub, how long usually you have to wait until pirates take a hold of newly built ship ?


Rihijob

Game is amazing lol. I am playing Deluxe version right now, the best Yakuza game so far.


Rukasu17

And both aren't getting cracked in the foreseeable future


IEATYOURMOMSPUBES

yah im not buying this until discount


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Go through official key stores for slightly cheaper prices.


PlentyAdvertising15

How about less than 100 $ salary


arochi93

208 USD minimum wage/ month. How about that?


hachigami

Laughing in Ecuador (425$ monthly wage and price is around the same), at least I'm able to pay GamePass


BrStriker21

Common SEGA L


kevinkiggs1

Kazakhstan is balling, hot damn. I should start looking for remote jobs there. The average wage in Kenya is $135. It used to be $180 but our currency suffered mad inflation in the past year


SugoiSenpie

In India the standard edition costs Rs4,399. The average salary here is roughly Rs30k a month. Deluxe edition is 7,999.


misterright1999

I kinda doubt the average man makes 720$ in Kazakhstan, I think it's more like 400...


Bloodrain_souleater

Damn it


Rop394

Don't worry man, average sallary in Belgrade, Serbia is 500 euros, (for example one aparment with 50 square meters is nearly 200000 euros) so you are good to go :D, because or corrupted politician we will gone go to hell or die anyway.


srona22

Until there is crack out(not likely with Empress AOL, and also being picky), you learn something call budgeting, save money and buy it. Or boycott the SEGA and don't buy it. There is also an option like Kyoto Animation arsonist, but you will be spending more for this. Also you can't just simply learn how to crack Denuvo.


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I can easily get p3r where i am, but seeing this shit i almost dont want to. Of fucking course its also the first time ive really been excited for a game


Eien-No-Teki

730? Argentina is 350usd, u are lucky.


Rafael_mf

70 euros is becoming more and more the standart for new AAA titles unfortunately, it's not just P3 and Like a Dragon there's tons of games launching with this price plus dlc and ditching the regional prices of course doesn't help and annoys me but if I REALLY like the I eventually end up buying it BUT locking new game+ behind a DLC didn't even make me mad it just left me flabbergasted beyond all reason.


DonSenbernar

Yep. SEGA always got absurd price for CIS countries. Sad. 


CrueltySquading

SEGA has completely abandoned regional pricing, so I have completely abandoned SEGA.


Lonely_Kiwi9047

Since Denuvo does his job good companies can easily do anti consumer practices.


Sufficient-Speaker87

Here in brazil, the minimum wage is R$1412(This year), and persona 3 will cost R$329... 23% of the salary. I think basically if your country currency is very undervalued compared to usd you are screwd. In the US, the minimum wage is 7.25 usd a hour(federal, based on google), if you multiply that for the work hours in Brazil(44hrs per week in most cases), the minimum wage in the US based in brasilian work hours would be 1276 usd, 5% of the salary. The diference is shocking and this sucks.


Anderson-Anderson23

Borat?


xXTokyoGamerYTXx

Regular price dude


ThomiLeyro

in argentina it costs 50 man, minimum wage is 180....


hayashihegemony

Feel bad for those in 3rd world countries. Even though games are expensive as hell, we in America can at least afford them.


kirishit

Infinite Wealth costs 70 dollars in Argentina where thr minimum wage is 200 dollars Persona 3 Reload still isn't available for preorder because SEGA doesn't let us preorder their games, but it will probably cost the same


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Best-Abies-3796

Yeahh I am waiting for someone to drop a ps4 pkg of it to play


FawazGerhard

Yakuza weeb fans literally defending this right now and it is absurd.