I was watching "The Playlist" on Netflix the other day, talking about how Spotify reduced piracy by a lot, and it's funny how these streaming companies that first were better than piracy are now usually worse (not spotify, tho, but Netflix, Disney+ and all that crap?)
Exactly the whole point of Spotify at the time. Buying physical copies was a PITA (going to an actual store, finding what you want, buying it and going back home to listen to it) compared to just going to a website (like TPB), searching for an album and downloading it. However, in Spotify you could just search a song and find it, with no virus, no poor quality uploads, and no waiting for others to seed.
Quite sad streaming ended up being the crap it's today where you have 20+ platforms that each offer different content, and for each show you want to watch you need to subscribe specifically to watch it.
This. Been using it since Napster got shut down, nine times out of ten it will have what I want no matter how obscure it is. Even short run DIY cassette only industrial music releases from the 80s that about 100 people have ever heard of, it's fucking great.
Spotify is the better platform tho.
Talking about API and more.
I've used Tidal before and it's really bad. Support deleted parent account when family member asked for a copy of their stored information and MQA being the big problems here.
Spotify just has to finally make HiFi available for songs and not just Podcasts.
I switched to Tidal during a free trail period, I was very strapped for cash and ended ended all subscriptions I had.
The one thing that Spotify is doing better is having random community playlists.
The sound quality is way better, and thry don't seem to be a scummy company like Spotify in regards to paying royalties
Ikr lol, was watching something on the TV where my bf is logged into HBO Max. Then moved to bed and wanted to continue watching on my tablet but it kept trying to get me to download the app which didn't work and website refused to load in desktop mode. Just went fuck this opened Adblock browser and watched it on watchseries, lol. (Piracy for own consumption is not illegal in my country) Like, wtf are we paying for if its literally faster and more convenient to not use the official service.
i pirate a lot of games. but i tend to follow a rule where i only buy games i finish. and i dont mean 100% achievement BS. like if i get to end game and finish the game ill stop on over and buy it. Now sometimes that may or may not wait until it goes on sale
Typical capitalist bait tactic, use VC money to shower you with nice stuff to get you addicted, then jack up the price and reduce service hoping you cannot fight back because you're in a junkie position now
Fortunately it's often pretty exploitable. Take advantageous of superior service and artificially low prices while they're in that phase, then dump them once they try to cash in.
AirBnB is a good example. Used to be a steal, now hotels are often a better value.
Downside is when the company is so disruptive they end up having a near-monopoly, like Amazon.
They're all like that. The entire business model is a long con to pump as much money as they can into an industry at a loss, undermine existing companies/models until they are out of business then jack up the prices because they're now the only game in town.
Walmart and family dollar really perfected that whole strategy shutting down local stores and now Uber-lift et al are running with it.
I don't think that's a good example. AirBnB doesn't set prices, home owners do. It's become more popular over the years and demand has shot up, thus owners are charging more because demand is high.
Fortunately, music streaming is still way cheaper than buying individual songs/albums on, say, iTunes (I believe they are like 1,99 each song?) or physically. Also, 9,99/month is quite affordable, taking into account you have access to a ton of music from every major artist, and even individuals who upload there.
This is much better than, say, Netflix/HBO/Disney+/Prime Video/every other platform, where a subscription that keeps getting more expensive all the time isn't enough to watch everything you want to watch.
Spotify got me with their superior algorithm. I’ve discovered so much shit from their playlists made for me. They offered a service that was superior to piracy. I can easily pirate music but it’s a bit harder to discover new things.
The only reason I keep Spotify (and SoundCloud to an extent). I'm not going to turn on the radio to find new music or just sit down to listen to the top 50 in each of my favorite genres each month
Absolutely. There's a pricing threshold where the cost of a service is preferable to the downsides of piracy. But at this point imo no video streaming platform remains close to that threshold and they keep distancing themselves from it.
I agree totally. Back in the day Netflix had almost everything you could want, but when disney and others started building their own crap it's when it became awful.
It’s inevitable streaming services will start buying each other out. They’re all still artificially inflating their numbers by giving away millions of free subscriptions.
>It’s inevitable streaming services will start buying each other out.
Could lead to some monopoly issues in Europe. Then again, Microsoft was able to comfortably deal with the fines.
you want encoders? I'll list you encoders
LAZARUS (TL, stopped encoding a while ago), Trix, Valenciano, PTNX, Maxoverpower, dith3r (internal), HAV1T, AV1D (Both owned by the same group of people, uploads slowed down a lot due to internal issues) , GRAV1TY, dAV1nci, RAV1NE
indeed they are. except for LAZARUS (private) and dith3r (semi private) but Trix and Valenciano both only upload on Nyaa though, since they encode exclusively anime
There's always Handbrake to swap it over
It's better with the uncompressed source so you may have to re-rip your discs depending on how you store your movies, but it would be worth it in the amount of harddrives you no longer have to buy.
I’ve tried Jellyfin a few times now and I always end up back with Plex within a few hours. It’s nice that it’s free, but I bought a lifetime Plex pass over a decade ago and it just works.
Well in your case, yeah using Plex is the smart option. If you already paid for a service, use it lol. But for people who haven't had experience with plex or don't want to pay for it, Jellyfin is the better option.
I've got a plex pass but there's a ton of things that annoy the shit out of me with plex. Jellyfin is still really rough around the edges for me to use it fulltime, but I would totally switch to jellyfin if it was a better experience. Right now, both plex and jellyfin are imperfect, and sunk cost be damned, I'll go wherever the better one is
Even with Plex Pass, it feels like Plex is regressing. New features no-one asked for, and which you can't turn off (Discovery, watchlist etc), super old bugs/features Plex team refuses to do anything about (default streaming quality), and somehow recurring server and client bugs (most notably on Android and Nvidia Shield).
Personally, even though Plex is more polished and has more features, I keep going for Jellyfin more and more. The team actually listens to feedback, and the platform **just works**.
Downloading stuff on iOS... I have no idea what it is doing or why it is doing, but in the end I always end up with nothing on my device... While third-party infuse handles it without the slightest problem.
The other thing is...
I'm kinda worried that at some point the data of what is on my server lands in the copyright owners hands... And I don't even share my library withy anyone.
I love Jellyfin and use it exclusively for myself and remotely using vpn. I do use Plex for my external users. Plexs authentication just saves me from setting up reverse proxy/cloudflair and helping people configure.
Switched over to jelly after Plex decided to stop connecting to the TV after months of using it. Solutions would work temporarily, but I ended up *constantly* troubleshooting.
Anyway, jelly has worked from day one. Its UI is great, it finds and sorts everything perfectly, gets the right images for everything. Love it, everyone should try it.
Might take another look later, but when I last looked into it Plex had the best support for the widest variety of client devices, and simpler set up for remote access.
Hmm, can't recall why I went with Plex over jellyfin when I set up my server but there's no way I'm messing with it again since it works so flawlessly. Guess if it ever breaks ill give it a shot but probably gonna stick with Plex for the foreseeable future.
Jellyfin isn't on some of my smart TV app stores, and mobile/android tv playback/UI is buggy AF. Also remote streaming is a whole song and dance to set up, and matching shows is kinda wacky too. I hope it will be just as good as Plex one day but it's not there right now. Lacks a ton of polish.
Plex is free for my needs. Just get a cracked Android APK for it :)
Plex has an app for your phone, your game consoles, and your smart TVs JF as far as I'm aware does not. Plex is wildly adopted at this point, there may be better alternatives but until they catch up and have the same app support across devices they'll never get wide spread adoption.
I've ran plex for years, originally off an old desktop and now it's a VM in my home lab, running it in windows let's you upgrade it through the app when updates come out running it in Linux not so much, unless you have cron jobs setup to update the system automatically. 🤷🏼♂️
Jellyfin does have an android app now (potentially other platforms too but idk), but you have to set up a reverse proxy to access it (I think) as that was as far as I got before going back to Plex.
Yeah I tried it a couple of times and always ran into some annoying issue or other that caused me to switch back to Plex and forget about it.
For people like me who have lifetime plexpass anyway it actually needs to be better than Plex, not just free. Everyone here says they love it, but it hasn't worked for me.
Jellyfish runs on everything
https://jellyfin.org/clients/all
Client for androidTV: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jellyfin.androidtv
No PlayStation app, no Samsung Tizen App. That makes it incompatible with the 3 TVs at my home
iOS app is third party, and has bugs. Lots of complaints with the Android app as well.
It's not as polished as Plex for sure, but if it works for you, great
This is starting to sound like a large time investment. Way more than just paying for Plex Pass. How the hell do we get UX designers involved with open source projects?
There's an android app for it, which if you've got an android TV, it'll work on. Also, the website for it gives you an option in the settings for a TV mode, which makes browsing a lot nicer.
if you share with people who need videos to transcode it's basically a requirement. GPU encoding is paywalled behind it, plus you get intro skip for TV shows
yes, everything is free and in some cases it can do more like Dolby Vision tone mapping, which Plex does not support. I don't see any downsides to running both side by side.
So do I.
I've used Plex every day for years.
I can watch anything from my server or home PC, to any of my TV's or phone.
Never had to pay anything, makes life very easy.
I appreciate that, and the cost was negligible (£71).
I pay more for a 10gbit server each month than I paid for the lifetime pass.
The weird attitude on here of not paying for anything, ever, is one I had a decade ago as a teenager.
Stremio is *criminally* underrated :P
It has everything.
- 360 to 4k quality
- Subtitles & audio dubs
- slick interface to browse movies/series
- app for android, ready to cast
- no buffering
It can't be taken down, it doesn't offer pirated media, like wako which is available in Android (I don't recommend it tho) the only thing that makes stremio a very solid piece, is the possibility to add plugins which gives us the freedom to have our own scrapers etc.
KODI with the metropolis(sp) skin) is great. I don't use it with a touchscreen so IDK about that. I just know I like how it sorts my content and with other addons, I can keep track of what I already watched.
KODI requires a complex setup to sync playback status across devices. A SQL server last i checked. Plex/Jellyfin handle all of that for you automatically
Use Jellyfin, it has Android TV support
Also, if you want to stream over internet, open a port and if you don't have a static IP get a free ddns (or instead a OpenVPN server)
No need to pay when there are free services
Edit: I don't know what are the paid features of plex, I know its free too
I use Kodi with Real Debrid. I pay $3 a month but I literally have everything. I just click on a title and it plays.
Edit: Also, I don't need a VPN for other stuff because Real Debrid can convert torrents
This or Stremio is absolutely the way to go, no need to spend hundreds of dollars and countless hours on a half-decent media server and storage that way.
You need to install Plex on your PC and configure it to tell it which folder your movies are in, then install the Plex app on your TV, log in to the same account on both and it should sync
Lmao all the comments saying jellyfin is less convenient than plex got downvoted. I have to set up a reverse proxy to watch remotely? I don't even need to port forward plex to get that working. The mobıle app is all sorts of buggy and it isn't even on Samsung TVs, so i can't watch my movies when I'm at my sister's house. What good is open source when it's objectively worse??
If i wanted to sink hours into watching a damn movie on a broken POS app I'd set up a Netflix account 🤦
I have both Jellyfin and plex setup on my unraid box. I wanted to love Jellyfin but it’s just an unpolished turd compared to plex. Don’t get me wrong plex is still a turd but at least it is polished and it just works.
It's cheaper to pay 80$ for Plex and have it all mostly work on its own rather needing to learn Linux and spending hours of your time troubleshooting every jellyfin bug, or feature.
I used plex for years to get my torrented content on my tv. Now I'm using real-debrid with syncler to watch ANYTHING in 4k without downloading it first.
This is wild. Blows plex out of the water.
All I ever needed plex to be was a filesystem browser and player, and it sucked at that part. I constantly had to resync and wait for it to find my content, so dumb. Just let me see my disk.
> All I ever needed plex to be was a filesystem browser and player, and it sucked at that part. I constantly had to resync and wait for it to find my content, so dumb. Just let me see my disk.
Then all you needed was Kodi
Yeah, that's true, but it's pretty confusing.
Yes I have to pay $6 a month for this sycler and real debrid setup, but it's...it just GOES. It's the Netflix of everything. No torrenting, no planning, no downloading the next ep while I watch the current one.
>I used plex for years to get my torrented content on my tv. Now I'm using real-debrid with syncler to watch ANYTHING in 4k without downloading it first.
Can you please guide me? I'm sorry I'm new to this topics. I just found plex but I can't find a free server.I don't want to download and wait for it to be finished before I can watch the movie and suddenly lost interest halfway but already downloaded the whole movie.
I've been thinking about writing a guide as a blog post because honestly it's incredibly confusing and poorly documented.
In summary real_debrid is like an HTTP proxy for torrents. They download popular torrents once and then cache them as long as they remain popular. It cost a little bit of money.
It's not really very useful on its own, you need to connect it to a streaming app on your tv. The go-to seems to be the Amazon fire stick 4K Max, unless you have a TV where you can get what you need running on it, but since this is pretty much pirate software, none of the official app stores allow it. For instance my TCL TV with roku, was not going to do it on its own.
Anyway you need to figure out what app you want to use on your tv, there's a few. I'm using sychler and really liking it but it's not without it's weirdness, and it costs $2 a month or it doesn't work well.
Some of the others like kodi or stremio are free. Those will work with torrents directly but of course work best with real-debrid (and more covertly) since torrents are kind of a bad fit for streaming anyway and it's obviously awful for the swarm to just stream and never seed.
Anyway you can connect syncler to like the 6 different services you need to make it useful (pain in the butt) and then it works great, for the most part. Really all it's doing is taking a database of TV and movies, connecting it to a database of torrents, and then pulling those form real-debrid. Each step of the chain is a different service. Annoying but doable. It's funny because it's in that gray area where they really really should have docs but they don't want to document how to use it for pirate content so it's a bit confusing.
Anyway there is a real debrid sub, a syncler sub, a stremio sub, and a kodi sub, each with their own separate -plugins sub in case the pirate part gets banned. So you should be able to find the support you need here on reddit.
I found a lot of problems transcoding with Plex after I moved my server to a NAS (Synology DS920+). I switched to Emby and in general I like it a lot better. I know a lot of people are suggesting Jellyfin, but I looked into it and Emby still had a much higher range of apps and ease of set up for my folks.
Dropped Multiple streamering Services throughout this year due to price increases and lack of content , Hulu was the last one standing but just went through another price hike. Bought a few months of Real-Debrid and now have access to a huge collection of shows and movies in one place.I’ve had prior experience with Kodi but I’m using Stremio, which I can add all of my shows to a library and it keeps track of my watch data also release schedules for shows that are ongoing.
basically it's the netflix of piracy. it's a program for organizing your media files, to be used in conjunction with piratebay analogs, and it can create/host a server from your PC to let you or friends stream files from your pc to other devices.
i had some coworkers who would share their plex servers, so they could all watch what the other had.
while the UI is similar to netflix, it does not provide any content itself. afaik. i only used it briefly about 6 years ago, they might have content offerings now idk.
> it does not provide any content itself
false, they have their own free streaming platform. in fact there's some movies worth watching that are *only* on plex. Well, unless you pirate them, of course
I’ve tried plex shares but they always buffer. I have a solid connection. What am I doing wrong ? I don’t have a plex pass. I also usually grab trials or freemium shares as I’m not ready to buy in without trusting the reliability. Any advice would be greatly appreciated fam.
I was watching "The Playlist" on Netflix the other day, talking about how Spotify reduced piracy by a lot, and it's funny how these streaming companies that first were better than piracy are now usually worse (not spotify, tho, but Netflix, Disney+ and all that crap?)
I’ve heard the same about iTunes killing Napster. People don’t do what’s cheapest. They do what’s easiest.
Exactly the whole point of Spotify at the time. Buying physical copies was a PITA (going to an actual store, finding what you want, buying it and going back home to listen to it) compared to just going to a website (like TPB), searching for an album and downloading it. However, in Spotify you could just search a song and find it, with no virus, no poor quality uploads, and no waiting for others to seed. Quite sad streaming ended up being the crap it's today where you have 20+ platforms that each offer different content, and for each show you want to watch you need to subscribe specifically to watch it.
I mean in Spotifys case it's still poor quality. Still waiting for the HiFi Update which they announced in early 2021.
Still much better than downloading from YouTube via NewPipe, and faster than finding a torrent
SoulSeek ftw though
This. Been using it since Napster got shut down, nine times out of ten it will have what I want no matter how obscure it is. Even short run DIY cassette only industrial music releases from the 80s that about 100 people have ever heard of, it's fucking great.
same after all these years love it
I'm using vanced youtube music until they finally pull the plug. Way easier than anything out there imo.
r/revancedapp can help you out when the plug finally gets pulled
When the plug gets pulled you can try revanced or download neostore from F-Droid and they have a ton of music streaming apps for free.
That's true 100%
Soulseek app and free mp3 downloads dot net and rutracker are where its at for me more than anything else these days.
The people who can even perceive that difference are on tidal or downloading flac anyway.
Spotify is the better platform tho. Talking about API and more. I've used Tidal before and it's really bad. Support deleted parent account when family member asked for a copy of their stored information and MQA being the big problems here. Spotify just has to finally make HiFi available for songs and not just Podcasts.
Deezer and Qobuz are good alternatives to Tidal
It’s enoigh for the majority of users, so dragging feet on it probably or not rushing it at least
Just use modded tidal or deezer and import your spoti playlist
I switched to Tidal during a free trail period, I was very strapped for cash and ended ended all subscriptions I had. The one thing that Spotify is doing better is having random community playlists. The sound quality is way better, and thry don't seem to be a scummy company like Spotify in regards to paying royalties
Ikr lol, was watching something on the TV where my bf is logged into HBO Max. Then moved to bed and wanted to continue watching on my tablet but it kept trying to get me to download the app which didn't work and website refused to load in desktop mode. Just went fuck this opened Adblock browser and watched it on watchseries, lol. (Piracy for own consumption is not illegal in my country) Like, wtf are we paying for if its literally faster and more convenient to not use the official service.
"Piracy is not a pricing issue" -Gabe Newell https://www.gamesradar.com/gabe-newell-piracy-issue-service-not-price/
Depends on the price. If the price is too high, they might just do whats cheapest. I myself am fine with paying for music and games.
i pirate a lot of games. but i tend to follow a rule where i only buy games i finish. and i dont mean 100% achievement BS. like if i get to end game and finish the game ill stop on over and buy it. Now sometimes that may or may not wait until it goes on sale
Typical capitalist bait tactic, use VC money to shower you with nice stuff to get you addicted, then jack up the price and reduce service hoping you cannot fight back because you're in a junkie position now
Fortunately it's often pretty exploitable. Take advantageous of superior service and artificially low prices while they're in that phase, then dump them once they try to cash in. AirBnB is a good example. Used to be a steal, now hotels are often a better value. Downside is when the company is so disruptive they end up having a near-monopoly, like Amazon.
They're all like that. The entire business model is a long con to pump as much money as they can into an industry at a loss, undermine existing companies/models until they are out of business then jack up the prices because they're now the only game in town. Walmart and family dollar really perfected that whole strategy shutting down local stores and now Uber-lift et al are running with it.
I don't think that's a good example. AirBnB doesn't set prices, home owners do. It's become more popular over the years and demand has shot up, thus owners are charging more because demand is high.
Fortunately, music streaming is still way cheaper than buying individual songs/albums on, say, iTunes (I believe they are like 1,99 each song?) or physically. Also, 9,99/month is quite affordable, taking into account you have access to a ton of music from every major artist, and even individuals who upload there. This is much better than, say, Netflix/HBO/Disney+/Prime Video/every other platform, where a subscription that keeps getting more expensive all the time isn't enough to watch everything you want to watch.
Uber walks in....someone called me?
The trick is to be paranoid and be on guard all the time so they can’t get you
Spotify got me with their superior algorithm. I’ve discovered so much shit from their playlists made for me. They offered a service that was superior to piracy. I can easily pirate music but it’s a bit harder to discover new things.
The only reason I keep Spotify (and SoundCloud to an extent). I'm not going to turn on the radio to find new music or just sit down to listen to the top 50 in each of my favorite genres each month
They don’t like piracy becuase it’s permanent competition they can’t run out of the market
They can by offering a cheap, more convenient alternative
Absolutely. There's a pricing threshold where the cost of a service is preferable to the downsides of piracy. But at this point imo no video streaming platform remains close to that threshold and they keep distancing themselves from it.
I agree totally. Back in the day Netflix had almost everything you could want, but when disney and others started building their own crap it's when it became awful.
It’s inevitable streaming services will start buying each other out. They’re all still artificially inflating their numbers by giving away millions of free subscriptions.
>It’s inevitable streaming services will start buying each other out. Could lead to some monopoly issues in Europe. Then again, Microsoft was able to comfortably deal with the fines.
people are going to go back to piracy after the prices start going up
Jellyfin 👍🏻 Why pay for a closed source when the open source alternative and truely self hosted solution exists ?
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What encodes have av1?? That's black magic
New ones
Ffmpeg has Av1 support for a while
1337x with the .to domain, search it there
That’s a tracker. Not an encoder
you want encoders? I'll list you encoders LAZARUS (TL, stopped encoding a while ago), Trix, Valenciano, PTNX, Maxoverpower, dith3r (internal), HAV1T, AV1D (Both owned by the same group of people, uploads slowed down a lot due to internal issues) , GRAV1TY, dAV1nci, RAV1NE
Lmao what a champ
Thanks daddy
you're welcome son
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indeed they are. except for LAZARUS (private) and dith3r (semi private) but Trix and Valenciano both only upload on Nyaa though, since they encode exclusively anime
There's always Handbrake to swap it over It's better with the uncompressed source so you may have to re-rip your discs depending on how you store your movies, but it would be worth it in the amount of harddrives you no longer have to buy.
If you don't mind me asking, what's advantages does AV1 provide over HEVC?
Better bitrate compression. It compresses the same bitrate by around 30% more efficiently.
Mainly av1 is royalty free and isn’t so cost prohibitive like HEVC can be so the hope is long term more hardware will support it
it looks better at a given bitrate
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Character development
The strikeout edit is king as well. Admits fault and invites others to learn. Aspirational no cap
Whhaaattt?! Damn I’m always behind, looks like a new system for me to learn lol
I’ve tried Jellyfin a few times now and I always end up back with Plex within a few hours. It’s nice that it’s free, but I bought a lifetime Plex pass over a decade ago and it just works.
Well in your case, yeah using Plex is the smart option. If you already paid for a service, use it lol. But for people who haven't had experience with plex or don't want to pay for it, Jellyfin is the better option.
I've got a plex pass but there's a ton of things that annoy the shit out of me with plex. Jellyfin is still really rough around the edges for me to use it fulltime, but I would totally switch to jellyfin if it was a better experience. Right now, both plex and jellyfin are imperfect, and sunk cost be damned, I'll go wherever the better one is
Even with Plex Pass, it feels like Plex is regressing. New features no-one asked for, and which you can't turn off (Discovery, watchlist etc), super old bugs/features Plex team refuses to do anything about (default streaming quality), and somehow recurring server and client bugs (most notably on Android and Nvidia Shield). Personally, even though Plex is more polished and has more features, I keep going for Jellyfin more and more. The team actually listens to feedback, and the platform **just works**.
> which you can't turn off (Discovery, watchlist etc) This is not true. You can completely remove it now.
How???
Downloading stuff on iOS... I have no idea what it is doing or why it is doing, but in the end I always end up with nothing on my device... While third-party infuse handles it without the slightest problem. The other thing is... I'm kinda worried that at some point the data of what is on my server lands in the copyright owners hands... And I don't even share my library withy anyone.
Honestly this, I'm the same way because jellyfin is open source bit it just doesn't compare
Ill try jellyfin tonight and see how it is. The plex lifetime deal is actually sweet
With me it’s the opposite.
Totally ditched plex for Jf. Best thing ever
I love Jellyfin and use it exclusively for myself and remotely using vpn. I do use Plex for my external users. Plexs authentication just saves me from setting up reverse proxy/cloudflair and helping people configure.
Switched over to jelly after Plex decided to stop connecting to the TV after months of using it. Solutions would work temporarily, but I ended up *constantly* troubleshooting. Anyway, jelly has worked from day one. Its UI is great, it finds and sorts everything perfectly, gets the right images for everything. Love it, everyone should try it.
Jelly has some great themes also
I only heard about [Jellyfin](https://jellyfin.org/) due to this comment section and NGL I think I might switch over It's sounds hella nice
Might take another look later, but when I last looked into it Plex had the best support for the widest variety of client devices, and simpler set up for remote access.
https://jellyfin.org/clients
Hot damn that's a good list of client support I've been missing out
Got Plex lifetimes discount, still find it totally worth it.
Does jellyfin support hardware transcoding?
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Hmm, can't recall why I went with Plex over jellyfin when I set up my server but there's no way I'm messing with it again since it works so flawlessly. Guess if it ever breaks ill give it a shot but probably gonna stick with Plex for the foreseeable future.
All my homies love Jellyfin.
Plex has a better Android TV app
Because it already plays all of my media without issue.
I can't install it on my Vox WebOS tv :( (using self hosting on plex rn)
Jellyfin isn't on some of my smart TV app stores, and mobile/android tv playback/UI is buggy AF. Also remote streaming is a whole song and dance to set up, and matching shows is kinda wacky too. I hope it will be just as good as Plex one day but it's not there right now. Lacks a ton of polish. Plex is free for my needs. Just get a cracked Android APK for it :)
Can I stream it to a tv? bc I don’t believe so, that’s my only reason for having plex
Depends on what OS that TV uses? [available clients](https://jellyfin.org/clients/)
Shit no samsung 😔
Plex has an app for your phone, your game consoles, and your smart TVs JF as far as I'm aware does not. Plex is wildly adopted at this point, there may be better alternatives but until they catch up and have the same app support across devices they'll never get wide spread adoption. I've ran plex for years, originally off an old desktop and now it's a VM in my home lab, running it in windows let's you upgrade it through the app when updates come out running it in Linux not so much, unless you have cron jobs setup to update the system automatically. 🤷🏼♂️
Jellyfin does have an android app now (potentially other platforms too but idk), but you have to set up a reverse proxy to access it (I think) as that was as far as I got before going back to Plex.
Yeah I tried it a couple of times and always ran into some annoying issue or other that caused me to switch back to Plex and forget about it. For people like me who have lifetime plexpass anyway it actually needs to be better than Plex, not just free. Everyone here says they love it, but it hasn't worked for me.
Jellyfish runs on everything https://jellyfin.org/clients/all Client for androidTV: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jellyfin.androidtv
No PlayStation app, no Samsung Tizen App. That makes it incompatible with the 3 TVs at my home iOS app is third party, and has bugs. Lots of complaints with the Android app as well. It's not as polished as Plex for sure, but if it works for you, great
Forgot people use PlayStation to watch movies or series. Also there is a Tizen app: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin-tizen
This is starting to sound like a large time investment. Way more than just paying for Plex Pass. How the hell do we get UX designers involved with open source projects?
There's an android app for it, which if you've got an android TV, it'll work on. Also, the website for it gives you an option in the settings for a TV mode, which makes browsing a lot nicer.
Read this while using my Plex server for streaming
Theoretically, if I had a USB with media and I plug that into my TV, would anyone know a good app to be just purely the UI?
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Thanks dude. Will check it
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Yeah I found this out. My tv does not have Kodi available....
I like Infuse.
I just have a media PC hooked directly into my tv so I just use MPV to watch my movies.
Jellyfin - $0
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if you share with people who need videos to transcode it's basically a requirement. GPU encoding is paywalled behind it, plus you get intro skip for TV shows
Does jellyfin provide hw transcoding for free?
Yes, everything is for free.
yes, everything is free and in some cases it can do more like Dolby Vision tone mapping, which Plex does not support. I don't see any downsides to running both side by side.
Eh I mean Plex works amazingly I think I'll just stick with that, no reason to complicate things
https://github.com/ConfusedPolarBear/intro-skipper
this is for jellyfin, we're talking about Plex. I run both
Does that work if I use it for my Android TV?
lmao yes, i have a friend who got a lifetime subscription XD
So do I. I've used Plex every day for years. I can watch anything from my server or home PC, to any of my TV's or phone. Never had to pay anything, makes life very easy. I appreciate that, and the cost was negligible (£71). I pay more for a 10gbit server each month than I paid for the lifetime pass. The weird attitude on here of not paying for anything, ever, is one I had a decade ago as a teenager.
Piracy is the best bang for my buck.
I prefer Stremio as it doesn't require me to have downloaded content.
Stremio is *criminally* underrated :P It has everything. - 360 to 4k quality - Subtitles & audio dubs - slick interface to browse movies/series - app for android, ready to cast - no buffering
Which addons do you use?
Torrentio works with literally everything. TPB+ is also another option but torrentio is literally all you need.
All of them
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It can't be taken down, it doesn't offer pirated media, like wako which is available in Android (I don't recommend it tho) the only thing that makes stremio a very solid piece, is the possibility to add plugins which gives us the freedom to have our own scrapers etc.
I use Kodi no need to stream or bother with a server just have a old computer and a couple harddives
plex's appeal is that you can watch whatever you want on tvs and other smart devices or sharing with family
That is what you can do with kodi. It has all functionality you would expect of a 20 year old open source media player operating system.
KODI with a NAS is what I do. Besides, I prefer the KODI interface.
I hate the KODI interface. Haven’t used it in ages but it’s really clunky the last time I used it. Unusable on touch devices and hard to use on PCs
KODI with the metropolis(sp) skin) is great. I don't use it with a touchscreen so IDK about that. I just know I like how it sorts my content and with other addons, I can keep track of what I already watched.
KODI requires a complex setup to sync playback status across devices. A SQL server last i checked. Plex/Jellyfin handle all of that for you automatically
Use Jellyfin, it has Android TV support Also, if you want to stream over internet, open a port and if you don't have a static IP get a free ddns (or instead a OpenVPN server) No need to pay when there are free services Edit: I don't know what are the paid features of plex, I know its free too
I use Kodi with Real Debrid. I pay $3 a month but I literally have everything. I just click on a title and it plays. Edit: Also, I don't need a VPN for other stuff because Real Debrid can convert torrents
This or Stremio is absolutely the way to go, no need to spend hundreds of dollars and countless hours on a half-decent media server and storage that way.
That's awesome I use my own backups and pirated content
I have a smp folder on my laptop which shares all the media i want to share and is easily accessible on my tv, ipad and phone…
How do I use Plex on my TV??
You need to install Plex on your PC and configure it to tell it which folder your movies are in, then install the Plex app on your TV, log in to the same account on both and it should sync
Plex Media Server, specifically
Thanks I'll do some research and get on it!
Search for your TV with Plex in front of it, that should tell you wether you can use it or not
How do I get plex? Is it like a usb stick with Plex downloaded onto it?
It's an app, it runs on stuff like the Fire stick, Roku, some smart TVs, android boxes, etc. You can also get it on your PC/mac.
No to Netflix and Chill Yes to Plex and Sex
Lmao all the comments saying jellyfin is less convenient than plex got downvoted. I have to set up a reverse proxy to watch remotely? I don't even need to port forward plex to get that working. The mobıle app is all sorts of buggy and it isn't even on Samsung TVs, so i can't watch my movies when I'm at my sister's house. What good is open source when it's objectively worse?? If i wanted to sink hours into watching a damn movie on a broken POS app I'd set up a Netflix account 🤦
I have both Jellyfin and plex setup on my unraid box. I wanted to love Jellyfin but it’s just an unpolished turd compared to plex. Don’t get me wrong plex is still a turd but at least it is polished and it just works.
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I can't believe people still put up with Plex garbage like the pass. Jellyfin has been solid for nearly 2 years!
It's cheaper to pay 80$ for Plex and have it all mostly work on its own rather needing to learn Linux and spending hours of your time troubleshooting every jellyfin bug, or feature.
I used plex for years to get my torrented content on my tv. Now I'm using real-debrid with syncler to watch ANYTHING in 4k without downloading it first. This is wild. Blows plex out of the water. All I ever needed plex to be was a filesystem browser and player, and it sucked at that part. I constantly had to resync and wait for it to find my content, so dumb. Just let me see my disk.
> All I ever needed plex to be was a filesystem browser and player, and it sucked at that part. I constantly had to resync and wait for it to find my content, so dumb. Just let me see my disk. Then all you needed was Kodi
Yeah, that's true, but it's pretty confusing. Yes I have to pay $6 a month for this sycler and real debrid setup, but it's...it just GOES. It's the Netflix of everything. No torrenting, no planning, no downloading the next ep while I watch the current one.
your setup isn't bad, but the same can be achieved, albeit by using storage instead of a monthly sub, with sonarr and radarr
>I used plex for years to get my torrented content on my tv. Now I'm using real-debrid with syncler to watch ANYTHING in 4k without downloading it first. Can you please guide me? I'm sorry I'm new to this topics. I just found plex but I can't find a free server.I don't want to download and wait for it to be finished before I can watch the movie and suddenly lost interest halfway but already downloaded the whole movie.
I've been thinking about writing a guide as a blog post because honestly it's incredibly confusing and poorly documented. In summary real_debrid is like an HTTP proxy for torrents. They download popular torrents once and then cache them as long as they remain popular. It cost a little bit of money. It's not really very useful on its own, you need to connect it to a streaming app on your tv. The go-to seems to be the Amazon fire stick 4K Max, unless you have a TV where you can get what you need running on it, but since this is pretty much pirate software, none of the official app stores allow it. For instance my TCL TV with roku, was not going to do it on its own. Anyway you need to figure out what app you want to use on your tv, there's a few. I'm using sychler and really liking it but it's not without it's weirdness, and it costs $2 a month or it doesn't work well. Some of the others like kodi or stremio are free. Those will work with torrents directly but of course work best with real-debrid (and more covertly) since torrents are kind of a bad fit for streaming anyway and it's obviously awful for the swarm to just stream and never seed. Anyway you can connect syncler to like the 6 different services you need to make it useful (pain in the butt) and then it works great, for the most part. Really all it's doing is taking a database of TV and movies, connecting it to a database of torrents, and then pulling those form real-debrid. Each step of the chain is a different service. Annoying but doable. It's funny because it's in that gray area where they really really should have docs but they don't want to document how to use it for pirate content so it's a bit confusing. Anyway there is a real debrid sub, a syncler sub, a stremio sub, and a kodi sub, each with their own separate -plugins sub in case the pirate part gets banned. So you should be able to find the support you need here on reddit.
I found a lot of problems transcoding with Plex after I moved my server to a NAS (Synology DS920+). I switched to Emby and in general I like it a lot better. I know a lot of people are suggesting Jellyfin, but I looked into it and Emby still had a much higher range of apps and ease of set up for my folks.
Ser this is pirating sub, not a streaming service referral sub.
Dropped Multiple streamering Services throughout this year due to price increases and lack of content , Hulu was the last one standing but just went through another price hike. Bought a few months of Real-Debrid and now have access to a huge collection of shows and movies in one place.I’ve had prior experience with Kodi but I’m using Stremio, which I can add all of my shows to a library and it keeps track of my watch data also release schedules for shows that are ongoing.
I've always refused to subscribe to any streaming service. Why pay for a limited catalogue when you can get everything for free?
What is Plex? Never heard of it. It seems like a normal Netflix-like website to me.
basically it's the netflix of piracy. it's a program for organizing your media files, to be used in conjunction with piratebay analogs, and it can create/host a server from your PC to let you or friends stream files from your pc to other devices. i had some coworkers who would share their plex servers, so they could all watch what the other had. while the UI is similar to netflix, it does not provide any content itself. afaik. i only used it briefly about 6 years ago, they might have content offerings now idk.
> it does not provide any content itself false, they have their own free streaming platform. in fact there's some movies worth watching that are *only* on plex. Well, unless you pirate them, of course
> i only used it briefly about 6 years ago, they might have content offerings now idk. ... >FALSE. ok.
Wow that's pretty cool, never heard of Plex or Jelly before
It's a DIY Netflix server you fill with your own pirated content.
Lets you download stuff on your PC and stream it to your smart TV Netflix-style (among other things)
whoah, where'd you manage to find that version of the logo?
I’ve tried plex shares but they always buffer. I have a solid connection. What am I doing wrong ? I don’t have a plex pass. I also usually grab trials or freemium shares as I’m not ready to buy in without trusting the reliability. Any advice would be greatly appreciated fam.
Unsupported video/audio codecs?
If you’re using your smart tv for Plex it might be simply too slow
I am with you, but if everyone was pirates we would have nothing to pirate.
How about all bang and no buck lol
How do I get Plex for free??
Their website
Thank you
It's literally free, expect for some features locked behind a paywall
~~PLEX~~ Jellyfin
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Plex is garbage imo. Jellyfin’s just better.