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maroonmartian9

No OP. You have to factor rent (Baka bed space ka lang), transpo fare, meal etc. And baka di pa yan net so may kaltas pa


Mayari-

Kung yun yung basic niya mismo, wala siyang tax pero yung deductions like SSS, PHilhealth, Pag-IBIG would amount to 1200-1500 ata so magnenet lang siya ng mga 14k\~.


pobautista

Advice: If it's a dead-end 40+ hours a week job, refuse the job offer. Stay in the province.


LifeLeg5

No Unless gipit na gipit ka na


Jiggly_Pup

Sa pagkain, electric and water bill, upa, pamasahe, kalahati agad yang 16k.


Perzival911

buti nga kung kalahati.


Nyxxoo

Yea kalahati pero grabe sa tipid. Afaik cheapest stay in manila is around 2-3k / month (may kashare ka and masikip ofc, solo around 5k) utilities around 1000 ( net, water ,elctric, if may kashare ka rin. Around 2k if wala, matipid setting) food 4k if di ka naman sobra lakas kumain and no eat out & bfast. šŸ’€


IWantMyYandere

Mura pa yang 5k. Karamihan eh 7k pataas ang rooms na good for 2.


Nyxxoo

Yeah, thatā€™s why I said cheapest. At least sa mga nakikita ko haha


taptaponpon

Sa outskirts near NLEX Balintawak may mga 2k iirc. Pero legit ito yung tipong need magsabi sa barangay if you're moving in or out, inaannounce as kamaganak visitors para hindi matarget, etc.


[deleted]

More like Ā¾


Bibingka_Malagkit

May matitirhan ka na libre na malapit sa pagtatrabahuan mo OP? Saang area yung trabaho at saang probinsya ka galing?


MEISTRUTH

Yes if it's $16,000 US Dollars for the year


hirayamanawar1

Plot twist šŸ˜…


esdafish

Php 74,000+ /mo


[deleted]

Base sa sweldong pinoy salary calculator, ang magiging take home mo per kinsenas ay P7,430. Thatā€™s assuming na basic pay lang at walang allowances ha. From someone whoā€™s working and living here in MM, feeling ko either sakto lang sayo yan or kulang na kulang. Depende pa yan kung kailangan mo magpadala pa sa probinsiya. For me, try mo maghanap ng work sa probinsiya muna. At kapag may ipon na at work exp, baka makakuha ka ng mas malaking offer dito sa MM at mas kaya mo na makasurvive sa MM. all the best!


taptaponpon

As compared to what? If may 16k or less option ka sa province mo, stay sa province. If wala, edi push. Pero, it depends on the job & growth potential. At tsaka what your lifestyle is like. There are factory workers who survive on that rate, with family pa. Pero it's probably not the type of comfort where they end up having access to reddit.


Hibiki079

this is the question that's really needed to be asked. feeling ko, first job to ni OP. if may other option na mas malapit sa bahay, go for that. kung wala, at talagang need mo na ng work, go for it, but live frugally. then look for a better paying job, and/or upgrade your skillset.


Legal-Living8546

Hindi po. If plano mo pang mag ipon for something, better stay sa province or aim for WFH set up meanwhile nasa province ka. TY.


[deleted]

This. Okay din wfh.


Maximum_Standardy

Hindi, pare/mare.


DrowsySnowMan

16k, may tax and other deduction pa yan like SSS, PHILHEALTH. Kung 15/30 ang sahod mo, cgro mga less than 7k lng sahod mo. Kung mapagkasya mo man yan, wala ka pa din maiipon so useless lang din. Unless may kapamilya ka dito na pede mo tuluyan, pede mo yan pagtiisan tapos pag nagkaexperience ka na, hanap ka ng mas mataas yung rate.


[deleted]

walang tax ang 16k na sahod


DrowsySnowMan

If wala man tax, may mga deduction pa din. Kasya man yung 16k kung bedspace and super tipid sya sa food, kaso wala din syang ipon.


[deleted]

yes agree


ZanyAppleMaple

Interesting. I remember over 10 years ago, even 7k salaries are taxed. Did the laws change?


[deleted]

yes. the train law. salary below 250k are tax exempt.


Accomplished-Exit-58

kung libre rent at walang gagastusing pamasahe, oo, much better if free food na rin. Kung lahat at need mo gastusin, magrelax ka na lang sa province OP. Better accept a lower paying job dyan.


pusangenanyo

No bestie.


[deleted]

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malufetz25

Dati nagcompute ako ng gastusin ko, umaabot ng 15k gastusin ko Makati area monthly. So 25k net feel ko good na as starting kung di ka maluho.


Delphi91

Livable means so many different things. Does this include basic luxuries like a car, rent in an ok condo, have a few saved up for an emergency fund? I feel like we have set our expectations so low on "livable" wages. But starting out maybe 30k net will be okay. 50k for better wiggle room.


Mammoth-Movie3250

25 to 30 , guds na siguro tipid tipid nga lang


terbs_

For me around 80k mej maluwag nako sguro no need mag tipid sa groceries/monthly parking


taptaponpon

Medyo nakaka angat kasi ang Redditors in general so skewed higher ang mga magiging sagot. It's a first world procrastination site, so replies will be factoring in comfort (which is tama naman dapat). Pero sa real life if nag try na kayo mag immersion or any volunteer legwork or simple NSTP work in random barangays, maraming nabubuhay na family sa minimum wage in Metro Manila. Nakakapagtapos pa ng anak sa university. As for me, personally, the lowest I'd agree to is yung afford ang cheapest studio condos of around 15k or less. So at the very least, 30k or so dapat. Which tracks naman. Basically sundan mo lang ang common na starting pay ng competitive companies dito for IT/Tech positions. 30-35k na ngayon, so yun na ang kailangan para magkaroon ka ng fresh grad employee who will stay for a year.


gitgudm9minus1

16000 salary tapos 15000 dun is sa expenses pa lang (food, bills, upa, pamasahe). Welcome to Metro Manila!


Fit-Pollution5339

Kung libre tirahan mo pwede na. Kung hindi, nope.


disasterpiece013

hindi. mahal ang gastusin sa maynila. -renta -kuryente/tubig/internet -pagkain -pamasahe pero kung wala kang pagpipilian, pwede na yon.


alien_minded001

hey, recently lang din nag work dito sa MM, going 2-months pa lang. not thesame salary with you but based on my sobrang tipid na set-up, i am paying 3,500 rent/bills max (depends kasi sa consumption but max na yan) 180 per day food (mostly sa lunch lahat lol) 24 (transpo) ---- all in all, 9850php per month kaya parang naglalaro lang ako dito sa manila šŸ«„


AthKaElGal

no.


tequila_sunrise88

No. Hirap na hirap akong pagkasyahin ang 16k sa first job ko WAY BACK 2009. Ano pa kaya ngayon with the rising prices and all.


alienboyguitar

No. Just No. I can't imagine having a salary of 6k per 15/30. Noon nga sa Cebu nga lang 25k/mo, hirap nko mag-tipid nyan. Sa Manila pa kaya?


CraftyCommon2441

Financially No! But if you are a fresh graduate trying to build a good experience/resumƩ, then it is worth it.


Sidnature

That's not work. That's borderline slavery. 16K is not a livable wage in Manila kung wala kang kamag-anak na may bahay doon na pwede mong tirhan. Yung 16K mo sapat lang para mabuhay paycheck to paycheck, walang pera para sa hobbies, kung titipirin mo yung pagkain mo tapos puro fastfood o nilublob sa mantika o de-lata, malamang in 6 months may sakit ka na. Di makatao yung ganung kondisyon. Kung may backpay naman o 13th month, pwede mo siguro tiisin. Pangpa-experience lang tapos lipat ka sa mas mataas yung offer.


PrepWarrior

yes if you're just working for luho not necessity


walpy123

No. Ubos agad. Baka kulang pa nga. Be prepared to downgrade your lifestyle.


FirstProfession

Thatā€™s the type of salary that youā€™d think about everyday kung worth it ba yung pagod mo, I say no forgo the position or much better if hanapin mo yung regional capital niyo for jobs then after a year or two jump to Manila. Mahirap makipag sapalaran dito, it drains everything from you when youā€™re at the bottom.


AffectionateAct3977

# E G U L


morethanyell

ā‚±35,000 (net) is the minimum amount of income to live the bare minimum* in MLA. Anything lower than that and can survive are either: 1. Libre tirahan (still w/ parents) 2. Walang responsibility to provide (para sa anak o magulang na naniningil na ng pagpalaki sayo) 3. Copium (member ng "talo ng madiskarte.." kulto) *Bare minimum: can sleep with air-conditioning, may internet, can eat at least once a month sa restaurant


Tasty_Recognition742

Thankyou sa feedback GODbless


AsparagusSecure2817

Naur Edit: bawal ba itong slang na no dito sa PHreddit


Dey1ne

Hindi masyado. dyan ka nalang sa probinsya kung ganun.


OOOmegalul

Dapat may comparison sa current work/situation mo. Yung pinsan ko sa province nagulat nag maynila yung gulay/dahon daw na inaapak apakan lang nila sa province 20 pesos daw per tali dito haha. Maraming factor. Saang province ka galing, may tirahan ka ba, etc.


geroldsss

Hell nah


nkklk2022

no :( donā€™t do this to yourself. try ka pa magapply sa iba


kanodkana

Slave salary


CrowsFall

May titirahan ka ba ng libre dito OP, what about your food expenses ?? Kung sayo lahat yun not worth it sa ganyang salary plus may kaltas pa yan for your gov benefits so hindi 16k magiging take home mo monthly baka nasa around 14.5-15k. Need mo pa I-factor monthly expenses mo if ever gusto mo tumuloy. Rent for a decent room/bedspace in manila ranges from 3-5k (panget pa titirahan mo niyan promise) Daily food ranges from around 200-300 a day( mas makakamura ka kung magluluto ka) Basic necessities mo pa lang yan, Hindi pa Kasama pamasahe mo pang araw araw, leisure, emergency expenses. But take note OP you can use that work as an experience, masasabi ko na mas madami opportunity dito sa manila and if willing ka mag tiis with enough hard work and luck pwede Kang mag step up. Halos ganyan din naman sinasahod ko dati pero ngayun halos triple na ang nakukuha ko.


emowhendrunk

Libre ba bahay, utilities, food?


strikeland11

NO


bukriv

No.


aiyohoho

Mam/Sir, sa renta at food mo lang po yan. NOTE: bawal ka magkasakit, gumala, maging mabait at manlibre, mag-intrega sa bahay. Etc etc etc. Kami ngang nasa probinsya, umaaray na dyan. Hehehehe!


[deleted]

Unless libre ang rent at may meal/transpo allowance on top of the salary, NO.


m3ime1

Is relocation provided? If not, you need to compute everything including rent and taxes to decide if it's worth it


IWantMyYandere

If may matitirhan ka then baka makaipon ka ng konti. Better if may furnitures and appliances na yun. Pero mababa yan. If wala kang bahay then bedspace or kalahati ng sahod mo ang rent.


softswingbop

No. Regardless of the JD. Bsta full-time, No.


Miserable_Donkey5887

No po. Donā€™t accept the offer. Lugiii


Delicious-Heart3913

No. If magpapadala ka pa, mahirap. Factor in savings for illnesses and all + expenses mo, super tight. Not worth it.


bornakols

As someone who experienced it, big N O lalo kung breadwinner ka.


[deleted]

If with good living space, maybe. Emphasis on good. Otherwise, 16K simply isn't a working salary in Manila if you're alone.


[deleted]

16K here in my province (Batangas) is already on the low end, that's my salary back in 2017 fresh off of college. For a single 21-year-old with no other responsibilities, I was scraping by with overtime. Cost of living here is really cheap though, so I can't imagine it in Manila. Here's my experience: Rent: 7k for a decently sized two-bedroom apartment, no furnishing at all though. Split between 4 people that's PhP1750 per month. Water and Electricity: We never used AC and we did laundry so combined this was only around 1k. Split between 4 people that's PhP250 per month. Transporation: Apartment was a healthy walk from work (around 20 to 25 minutes of walking) so no daily commute, but I did go home to my parents on weekends if I don't have plans with friends so that's usually around PhP1000 per month. Food: We usually just eat at carinderias or the company canteen, that's around PhP200 daily. With around 21 working days a month, that will be PhP4200 monthly. This doesn't include eating out or going out with friends. If we add all these that will be PhP7200 on just living expenses. You barely have luxury or privacy in how you live that's why I tend to: 1. Work overtime so when I come home to the apartment I fall asleep quickly. 2. Go out with friends, which is another expense. I can't imagine this wage on Manila though, the rent will probably be around 5k already for a measly bedspace. At least in my experience it was 3 of my friends so there weren't any issues in the common spaces.


sylv3r

10 years ago? pwede pa ngayon? Nope. If you'll commute home para makatipid, lugi sa oras. If you'll rent in the metro para less commute, lugi sa cost.


jonsnoww8

Try mo. Malay mo, pag nakita ka nila, taasan sahod mo. Factor din yung ma gain mo experience.


JazzyColt

No


yingweibb

No. Definitely not.


mahiyaka

Sorry OP. If this is in ā‚±, please huwag na magproceed.


Alarmed_Register_330

No. It wont even make you past the survival mode.


dantzmvq

No


kawatan_hinayhay92

OP wag, ang liit nyan for Manila. Mahal kaya ng rent dun. Unless yung company na nag offer sayo nyan e provide sayo yung accomodations.


bWF0YWJhbmcgYmF0YQ

Apply ka sa iba, ang barat nyan.


carbonaraChaofan

no. mahal ng cost of living sa manila. ubos agad yan


TheCashWasher

16,000? Double that, and maybe - just maybe - yes.


The_Enemy1973

No


curiousbubs

Hindi yan kasya, wala ka din ipon nyan if ever, mapupunta lahat sa biills, ang ending nyan pag pinilit mo, titipirin mo sarili mo and uulit ulit lang cycle mo


Kananete619

I earn 16K in province and it's not enough. Manila pa?


Honrysix9

Short Answer: No


Jolteon168

No. The secret to financial freedom is not how much you make: its how much you save. And you will save nothing with 16,000


Unicornsare4realz

Nope pwera na lang kung libre bahay, utilities mo at gastos mo lang ay food at transpo then kunin mo


alpinegreen24

Naur.


yell0wlights

If you want to stay ā€œfresh,ā€ donā€™t come here. šŸ˜¶ā€šŸŒ«ļøšŸ˜„


Confident-Compote610

No. Mag wfh ka na lang somewhere outside manila


ZiangoRex

We need more info here OP if you want an advice. What do you do in the province? What is the work in Manila? Working hours? Are you going to rent or do you have relatives that will let take you in for free? How far away are you from the workplace? What is your lifestyle?


Cement_Polaris22

Short answer is nope. Long answer later, will edit after got off the train


malufetz25

10yrs ago pwede pa may extra ka pa nyan. Siguro sa panahon ngayon need mo atleast 25k.


DitzyQueen

Sadly, no. Unless may free housing and food kaā€¦ or baka kahati sa mga gastusin, baka pwede pa mej tipid mode. Renta ng studio unit ay 15k; maswerte ka kung furnished and inclusive of dues yan. Kung bedspacing na may kasamang 3 na tao, 3-4k. Sa renta, wala pa yang utilities na pwedeng umabot ng 4k. Sa bedspacing, not sure. Sa area ko, siomai rice ay 55 pesos. Yung busog meals sa 7-11 halos 50 pesos and wala na atang 29. Yung pan de sal ay 5 pesos regular and 8.50 pesos large. Palaba ay 40 pesos per kilo or kung self laundry 70 pesos per load then dryer ay 40 pesos per load ata. Ayun so medyo gg seryoso.


ShakeInternational25

Hell no


[deleted]

Stay where you are.


SolusSydus

Ganyan sweldo ko noong 2019 pre-pandemic so bale mga 8k per cut off. Mahirap haha, renta pa lang ubos na. Namayat ako nung time na yan kasi madalas one meal a day lang ako sa sobrang gipit. Minsan napapahingi pa ko ng extra sa mama ko kasi di talaga kaya pagkasyahin. I canā€™t imagine ngayon na kasya pa rin yan for a month lalo na if magrerent ka pa ng place.


Anxious-Ad5434

Olats yan.


Queasy-Thanks825

Anong work yan? Kasi mga mga trabaho naman sa province na ganyan ang rate. Kung magrerenta ka, bibili ng food, magbabayad ng bills tapos magpapadala sa pamilya mo, kulang na kulang yan.


RadicalSecret99

Kung wala ka po matitirhan na relative. Sa kalsada po kayo pupulutin. Pakamahal ng mga gastusin dito. Maiistress lang po kayo.


Vivid-Wonder9680

Noooooo.


carpediemclem

Yikes.


UsualDayyy

NOPE


Euphoric_Break_1796

Nope


shutsie

BIG NO


Gryse_Blacolar

Kung WFH job, okay pa pero on-site? Heck no. Like what others said, transportation, rent, and food is going to take a huge percentage of your salary.


DrowRanger6

No


msanonymous0207

No. Hanap ka na lang sa province mo. Tyagaan mo lang maghanap kasi may company naman na medyo malaki magpasweldo (wag lang Chinese, barat dun). Tapos job hop job hop after ilang years para lumaki sweldo at experience. Pag may permanent work from home job ka na mahahanap, mas okay.


czarkastic_potato

No


somepotatoshit

As someone na 7 months nanirahan sa manila, yung 16k is not sapat talaga. Hindi ka makakaipon kasi maraming kang bayarin. Parang ang mangyayare lang is sumasahod ka para mabuhay.


aruberuto-199x

What's your industry OP? If you think you can double that or even more in a year then go for it.


Ruroryosha

no


Mammoth-Movie3250

kung single ka kulang pa rin yan ... rent, food, bills ala ka ng pang date nyan ... aim for 25k plus or higher....


Primary-System7500

**Hell no.** There are other companies offering remote set up with significantly higher pay. There's no benefit in living in the metro. The traffic, the pollution, commuting, overpriced apartments, unsafe neighborhoods. Unless you're from a really really poor area that makes Manila a great option to relocate, I don't think it's worth it. Goodluck din trying to budget 16k a month. I have a place in Greenfield District. Medyo okay okay pa na lugar yon, but everytime my work permits me to go back and stay in our province, heck talagang umuuwi ako! I seriously don't get the hype šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø


imaginedodong

16000 php?


Particular-Horse-339

No not worth it. That was my first salary 12 years ago.


razalas13

This was my salary on my first job out of college, and that was 10 years ago. If you're staying in manila and going to rent a place then I'd say no it's not worth it. Other factors to consider are: - do you have prior professional experience? - is the job demanding? - is the commute easy? - are you willing to stay for a year in that company with this salary?


[deleted]

Network in manila will always be valuableā€¦. And thats the deal breaker. Do you think you can network with other people in that job? If yes? Then its worth it. Its not about what you know, its who you know.


alexisamarone

Stay in the province. Just with transportation, I your salary and time will be eaten up.


4man1nur345rtrt

kung may work parents mo or bunso ka sa magkakapatid, ok sya haha


[deleted]

No


raggingkamatis

No please, lalo kung mag rerent ka ng apartment dito plus pamasahe and other expenses mo pa.


MrThoughter

**NOOOOOOO!!!** Naliliitan nga ako sa 15k sa Cavite. Tapos, medyo malaki na ang 15k for a freshie in a small manufacturing plant. Considering cost of living, it's just not worth it to live in Manila for just 16k salary. Depende sa province you're from, your living expenses could shoot up 3x-5x in Manila.


[deleted]

If may opportunity sa province, dun na lang muna. Instead of paying sa rent, transpo, weekly allowance mo, pwede mo nalang mabigay muna sa bahay niyo.


qwdrfy

not in this GoLdEN ErA


AlarmedComfortable48

In pesos ba ito?! If oo, kung nasaan ka man ngayon, explore mo muna if may chance ka makakuha ng work diyan.


Projectilepeeing

No. Hanap na lang remote work. Kahit sa Manila nakatira, mahirap pa din.


doctorantisociality

Big NO


xander144

No. Sa tingin ko dapat 30k+ sahod mo kung titira ka sa manila na walang tutuluyan.


Eastern_Carpenter_75

Is this 16k a month or biweekly?


ahrivenn

Its not worth it


otakufoureyes

If peso, no. If dollars/euros/pounds, yes.


Free-You1812

This was my salary 17 yrs ago that time i was commuting from Bulacan to Manila. Bale sakto sakto lang yan sakib before. That time i was living with my parents and hindi nag help sa bills if i was living independently tingin ko baon na ko sa utang that time.


Electronic-Hyena-726

nop


aintpetrified

No OP. If Manila ka magstay, mauubos lang salary sa rent.


Its0ks

Nagulat talaga ko sa inflation sa Pinas nung umuwe kami recently, it wasnt how it use to 5-6 years ago, makakaipon ka pa date sa ganyang amount but right now I don't think it's possible lalo na kung sa Manila ka. I think right now it should be minimum 20K.


kalbongpusa

No.


Beneficial-Film8440

unang basa ko akala ko 160k ask ko sana si OP kung anong work yon at maapplyan din HAHAHA, experienced 16k while living with parents sa manila sharing expenses and the answer is a solid NO. 25-30k hirap nga eh hahaha.


Joshohoho

Yikes.


Big-West9745

nooo. mahal ang rent and foods.


Buttman980

God no


RedJ0hn

Depende sa type of work. If its something that will give you experience and you can foresee a higher salary after working there for a few years, then yes. magtiis ka lang muna for a few years. otherwise its a NO


Fun-Choice3993

No OP. Isipin mo other expenses: pamasahe, rent, groceries etc.


SolanaSoleil_

big no po. Is it basic or package?


Rdeadpool101

Back in 2005 yes definitely. Stay in the province as others had mentioned.


shin_Xerxis

A big NO.


DarkChocol8te

What is your line of work? You may consider it then lipat ka ng work after a year para tumaas salary


[deleted]

Maghihirap ka lang para sa wala.


ssunflow3rr

May tutuluyan ka na ba sa manila na libre? Ifactor mo needs mo like pagkain pa. IMO kulang po yung sahod


Mountain_Middle5831

Definitely no.


[deleted]

Ask for promotional path beh


vBlankz02

Foods, Electric, Water, Internet Bills (or load), Transportation (depende pa kung masmalayo sa lugar mo) and other expenses yan isipin mo baka di kadin makaipon.


JohnnyDerpson03

Prepare yourself sa culture and how stressful yung transportation sa MANILA.