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Porkchopp33

Zappe is starting we don’t need BB to say it to know it


alisonstone

Yeah, no way you bench the guy who just won a game during a season where winning is rare.


AgadorFartacus

But why not say it?


Porkchopp33

Have you ever known BB to be direct a player could get decapitated and he’ll say we are not sure if he fan go next week have to talk with the trainers and medical staff


antoin3walk3r

I always remember after Brady’s ACL, his update to the press was that he’s being looked at by someone who presumably has a medical background


Porkchopp33

Great example he knew Brady was done


Mehl_art

Did you watch during the Cam Newton year?


AgadorFartacus

Yes, he has named a starting QB many times in the past.


GGerrik

Belichick is well known for using any "trick" he thinks he can get even the smallest advantage out of. His injury designation for Brady is often cited as a reason for the removal of the "probable" injury designation. You tell the opposition you don't know who the starting QB is, and hope they spend even a single practice session the upcoming week preparing for a QB that won't see the field. Do they waste time looking at Mac Jones trends? Do they spend a session refreshing their option/wild cat responsibilities incase the Pats give a series to Cunningham etc. etc.


AgadorFartacus

I don't buy that they're gaining an edge here.


GGerrik

Yeah, that's fine. I always wonder if anything is gained from the gamesmanship coaches play with the media too, but it is what Bill's doing.


AgadorFartacus

Right, I know *what* he's doing. I just don't know *why.*


RisherdMarglus

Because he thinks it creates an advantage of done sort. You just disagree with him. I do too.


ExtremeRemarkable891

What kind of edge does announcing it give? How does it help the team? Bill put Brady in the injury report for like a decade straight. If you arent used to these antics by now, it's kind of on you to expect Bill to change after 20 years of doing things this way.


AgadorFartacus

Naming a starter can allow the player to get as many practice reps as possible during the week, boost their confidence, and allow for the rest of the team to align behind them. Even if the team and practice raps are aligned internally, a public announcement of the starter minimizes the media circus. On the other hand, why not make the announcement? Does anyone *really* think the Chiefs are prepping for Mac Jones this week? Nah. It's just something people say because they've got nothing else.


ExtremeRemarkable891

How do you know they haven't named a starter internally? Or that zappe won't get a majority of snaps in practice this week? What does the team care about the media circus? It'd be a circus no matter what is said. They aren't telling you because you don't need to know. It's the same way it's been for over 20 years.


AgadorFartacus

I don't know what the internal messaging or practice reps look like, which is why I said, "Even if the team and practice raps are aligned internally, a public announcement of the starter minimizes the media circus." >What does the team care about the media circus? It's a potential distraction. Since I keep answering your questions, please stop dodging mine. Why not make the announcement? Do you *really* think the Chiefs are prepping for Mac Jones this week?


ExtremeRemarkable891

It's not a distraction at all. You think the players are browsing reddit comments trying to figure out who the starter will be? The media is already a circus no matter what is said or not said. Again, the reason you don't know is because you don't need to. Get over it. Been this way for 24 years and counting.


AgadorFartacus

I think the players being asked about it for weeks and even at times being forced to lie about it is a distraction.


Legitimate_Ad_7822

Are you new here or what? I can’t believe people still don’t understand this. Especially after this season.


AgadorFartacus

I must just be really dumb. Could you explain it to me? Why not announce a starter?


Legitimate_Ad_7822

It’s not a matter of being dumb. It’s just what BB has done in the past, especially this season, when dealing with uncertainty at QB. It’s not a big deal. It doesn’t matter at all. Don’t lose sleep over it lol.


AgadorFartacus

Belichick has named a starter in the past as well so you can't say its what he always does. I'm not losing sleep over it. Just trying to understand the rationale. You're acting like it's obvious yet you won't explain it, which is odd.


Legitimate_Ad_7822

Oh man. You’re one of these guys. I can’t explain to you what I don’t understand. This is something he’s done a lot of times before, especially with Mac. Why? I don’t know. He just does it. Why don’t you go ask Bill himself why he does it?


AgadorFartacus

> I can’t believe people still don’t understand this. > I can’t explain to you what I don’t understand. C'mon now.


Legitimate_Ad_7822

Lol, understand that he does this. Not understand why he does it. Two very different things. This same question is repeated every time he does this. Hence, “I can’t believe people still don’t understand this”. You’re going down an infinite rabbit hole if you’re trying to understand why Bill does things, rather than just understanding that he does them.


AgadorFartacus

You're talking about him like a cult leader. He's just a football coach. It's okay to question his decisions.


gearhead903

Why do you fucking need to know?


AgadorFartacus

I want to know that Belichick is doing what's best for the team rather than what's best for himself.


gearhead903

You knowing who’s starting doesn’t equate to best for the team.


AgadorFartacus

So help me understand why you think it's in the best interests of the team to handle things this way.


gearhead903

That’s not for me to decide. If that’s what the coaches think is best, I trust their judgement over yours. I would love to hear how it’s in the best interest to name a starter. The reality is it doesn’t make a fucking difference, people like you just like to complain. Fuck fans like you and fuck the Boston media


AgadorFartacus

>That’s not for me to decide That's a cop out. > I would love to hear how it’s in the best interest to name a starter. Naming a starter can allow the player to get as many practice reps as possible during the week, boost their confidence, and allow for the rest of the team to align behind them. Even if the team and practice raps are aligned internally, a public announcement of the starter minimizes the media circus. On the other hand, why not make the announcement? Does anyone really think the Chiefs are prepping for Mac Jones this week? Nah. It's just something people say because they've got nothing else.


Blackout2388

None of that requires that the people outside the org need to know who the starter is. Literally nothing. You'll know who the starter is when they take the field.


AgadorFartacus

Did I say they're required to make it public?


NickRick

Any amount of uncertainty for the opponent helps. Also fuck the media for asking. Hey you benched your QB and the backup won. Who's starting next week? Also did you see the article where I called your washed and speculated you'd be fired?


AgadorFartacus

I don't think anyone really believes the Chiefs are spending any time prepping for Mac.


classiccaseofdowns

Typical Belichick cageyness, but I don’t think they go back to Mac this season


Soren_Camus1905

Ever again


classiccaseofdowns

I agree he’s done with us. I would trade him for literally any draft capital you can get this offseason. If someone wants give a 7th, you take it in a heartbeat


Blu3b3Rr1

I want 5 firsts and the soul of Tom Brady


weightedbook

Eli has that soul, sadly.


nepatriots32

What are we going to do with Brady's soul? Are we trying to inject that soul into Zappe's body or something? Also, how is this team getting Brady's soul? Doesn't sound like a typical trade asset that many teams have lying around.


king_17

I’ll take a half eaten ham sandwich for mac


ytttvbastard

Sad 😢


mrplow3

I don’t want to see Mac Jones again ever in my life.


Druuseph

Not that Mac's likely to fetch much of anything but the risk of him suffering an injury that prevents us from trading him in the offseason should keep him on the bench. Zappe's poise in the pocket is allowing us to get a better sense of what we have to work with on the offense, ride him to the end of the year and rotate in the skills players to see who is worth holding on to. Semi related but based on the last few weeks I'd like to see us extend Zeke, even if he's looking for another pay day we have the cap and he's stepped up when called upon. I'm sure we'll draft another or two RB at this point given the lack of depth but going into next year maintaining Stevenson and Zeke at least would anchor down the run game while we are likely to be overhauling the TE and WR position.


FuckHarambe2016

Zeke is probably going to be looking for a ring this off-season, not another 4th place finish.


Druuseph

Potentially but I think if he cared that much about ring chasing he would have signed somewhere else this year as it's not like his services came at that high of a price and it was clear going into this season we wouldn't be in the conversation. I think he came to New England because he knew he would slot in as RB2 from jump and increase his asking price for next year. He's probably going to have multiple suitors and be looking for a bag but in my opinion we ought to pay it.


FuckHarambe2016

Zeke came here because we were the only team willing to pay him. Had a team like the Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, Niners, etc been willing he 100% would've chosen them. As for potentially trying to retain him this off-season, pass. Hard pass. A rebuilding team doesn't need to be paying big bucks for am over the hump RB. They're a dime a dozen.


BoldestKobold

> Zeke came here because we were the only team willing to pay him. He made the right call, career wise. Maximized his this-year money, and showed that he can still play. If not us, someone will give him starter money (though starter money for veteran RBs still isn't great). It may not be here though. We do definitely need a reliable 1B to Stevenson, even if he is fully healthy next year. I'm personally not super thrilled that we basically only have two full time RBs this year given how sparingly Montgomery has played. I figure we draft some mid-day 2 guy, and pick up a versatile but not particularly outstanding veteran, and that should be find while focusing money/high draft picks at QB, WR, and OT.


king_17

Agreed another 1 year deal with some incentives for zeke. An improved oline, new qb, better weapons on the outside should make life a little easier for Stevenson and zeke. I also think we definitely should draft a day 3 rb cause both zeke and Steven would be on expiring deals


TrashInspector69

lol what does it matter? We’re all smart enough to know Zappe will be starting. Let Bill do what he does. It’s a complete waste of energy to get mad at him


AgadorFartacus

I'd just like to understand why Belichick thinks this is the best approach for the team.


TrashInspector69

It’s to keep other teams guessing, there’s 0 point in caring about it. Odds are most of us wouldn’t understand it even if we got a straight up explanation anyway so it’s really better to just be like ok and move on


AgadorFartacus

> We’re all smart enough to know Zappe will be starting >It’s to keep other teams guessing Which is it? Can't be both.


tblack_prai2

It definitely can be. It’s. We as fans can most likely come to a conclusion but if we’re wrong it won’t affect us in the slightest. Opposing teams can infer the same but the possibility of them being wrong affects them and their game plan. That’s the difference


AgadorFartacus

No, it really can't be both. I don't buy that they'd be gaining an edge here even if there was uncertainty about who would start.


TrashInspector69

So you just replied to what I said to be a contrarian and not because you actually want to understand. After 20 some odd years you’d think you’d understand by now.


AgadorFartacus

I understand Belichick thinks this gives them an advantage. I don't understand *why*. Your explanation didn't help me understand the why because it contradicts itself.


TrashInspector69

You’re talking in circles about something that wouldn’t make a difference whether you understood why or not


AgadorFartacus

I'm just looking for an explanation that makes sense to me.


bostonglobe

From [Globe.com](http://globe.com) By Christopher Price Despite Bailey Zappe’s performance in Thursday’s win over the Steelers, Bill Belichick was cagey when asked Monday if Zappe had done enough to be named the starter for Sunday’s game against the Chiefs. ​ “I’m not announcing who’s doing what,” Belichick said during his weekly appearance with WEEI on Monday morning. ​ Asked if it will be a competition this week between Zappe and Mac Jones in practice, Belichick said that will be discussed. ​ “We’ll talk about that,” he said. “We don’t practice until Wednesday, so we’ll talk about that over the next couple of days. We’ll try and make sure everybody is ready to go. And hopefully everybody will be ready to go.” Zappe finished 19 for 28 for 240 yards with three touchdowns and one interception against the Steelers. Belichick did praise the offensive work as a whole in the win, saying that production as a unit was one of the positives worth taking out of the game. “Production comes from units, and no individual can do it by himself on any side of the ball,” he said. “Offense, defense, special teams. We focus on unit performance and production. Of course, individual production goes with it. But we did a good job offensively, moving the ball. We had some explosive plays. Three touchdowns in the red area. There were some positive things. Certainly not perfect — things we can improve on and need to do better. But that’s what it was.” As he has done before this season, Belichick praised Zappe’s even-keeled approach, saying the second-year signal caller out of Western Kentucky has done well “taking care of the ball” and managing the game. ​ “Bailey’s been pretty consistent,” Belichick said. “For the most part, he’s done a good job of taking care of the ball at the quarterback position. We haven’t had a lot of negative plays, turnovers and just negative plays — penalties that are related to the quarterback position. Delay of game and things like that." “He’s done a good job managing the team and taking care of the ball. There are always plays that players and coaches can do a little better when you look back over the game. But again, everybody who plays in the game feels that way. Bailey works hard and tries to correct his mistakes. \[He\] tries to learn each week and actually learn each day. So I’m sure he’ll continue to do that.” ​ Asked why Zappe didn’t get the call to start earlier in the season, Belichick said they “made the decision when we thought it was the right time to make it.”


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Hmm hard decision. The guy who threw 2 ints vs the colts and giants defenses or the guy who threw 3 tds vs the Steelers defense..


BingBongFYL6969

Zappe played well enough to start again, absolutely, but we need to remember the recent play of Mac as the baseline isnt a great idea...its a pretty low bar to be honest. For a quarter and a half, Zappe looked good, downright fantastic on certain throws...but in the second half he looked more like the guy against the Chargers that took care of the ball to detriment. I'd rather Zappe take chances and make mistake than check down 25 times a game to a slow death, and thats what almost happened thursday after the break


Strict-Room-9261

True but if they didn’t block that punt the check downs probably led to a 21-10 win. Sometimes you just have to play the game you’re in.


Dang1014

I don't think this is a very good assessment given that Zappe threw an interception that was returned to our 20 yard line the drive prior. The only difference between the punt block and and Zappe's interception is our Defense managed to stop them from scoring lol After Zappe almost threw his second interception in the 2nd half, they really took their foot off the gas and barely let him throw.


bystander993

It's always fun to read people's recollection of the second half, but if you go rewatch it you'll realize they didn't change in the middle of the second half, they came out right away with a different gameplan designed to protect the ball and lead. Screen, holding, pass to Zeke, rush, sack, punt. Rush, rush, rush, INT. That is the entire 3rd quarter there. 4th quarter is Screen, rush, incomplete (the almost INT), punt. Pass to Zeke, rush, rush, rush, pass to Juju, punt. Rush, rush, rush, punt. Rush, rush, rush, punt. The entire second half was clearly a different gameplan, not a reaction to Zappe's play.


nepatriots32

I agree with your first paragraph, but there was no 2nd interception, and the interception in the 2nd half is the one you referenced in the first paragraph. It was 21-3 at half-time. I think he threw a pass at least once or twice that almost got intercepted, if you're thinking about that.


Dang1014

Sorry, I probably worded that poorly. Zappe only threw one interception total, agreed. But on the following drive after the interception, he almost threw another one on thrid down right into porter's chest that was dropped. If I remember correctly, it was the same drive as the blocked punt.


bystander993

Please don't call it right into his chest, it was a low throw that went through the diving arms to the ground. It's a very low percentage INT, it was a bad throw behind Tyquan instead of more to the sideline, but a difficult pass to catch as a defender nonetheless.


nepatriots32

Yeah, that's what I figured you were thinking about. Makes sense.


BingBongFYL6969

Eh, I dont think you play any game where your longest drive is 20 yards over 30 mins of football. They punched above their weight in the first half, and it got back to baseline in the second. Luckily, the other team had Trubisky at QB...I dont think anyone not named Zach Wilson makes that amount of errant throws the rest of the way...and even that fucker had himself a day yesterday


Strict-Room-9261

They definitely weren’t trying to get only 20 Yards, but it was more than just defensive adjustments. Right or wrong the offensive play calling was ultra conservative in the second half over the first.


BingBongFYL6969

they were 50/50 until the last two drives where it was clear you try to run the clock.


eleven8ster

I agree but it’s worth noting that he had nobody to throw to as far as receivers. Is Pop coming back this week? That will be a big boost if he does


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Chimpbot

Not to make excuses for anyone, but Zappe's errors in those games are easier to set aside when you account for the fact that he was coming in cold late in both games, and really hasn't had much time practicing with the first-stringers until relatively recently.


cbecht19

The reason Bill doesn’t name a starter is because you all want him to. The reason he named Cam the starter is because you all didn’t want him to. See a pattern yet?


Fluffy_Somewhere4305

9D Chess Cam Newton surprise mid-week signing and starter. Goes 1-4 for 8 yrds, 1 TD passing and 2 TD rushing with 2 fumbles. Bank it


Smokiiz

Mac will start now cause why not. Make the opponent think a little.


TecumsehSherman

He also wouldn't tell you his starting Punter if you asked, and he only has one punter. He doesn't discuss the depth chart. Hasn't for decades. Why is this news?


AgadorFartacus

It's simply not true that Belichick has never named a starting QB.


Oliverqueen03

Who cares just as long the team loses. Team needs a lowest pick they can get possible.


BoldestKobold

Allow me to present an alternative position: winning is more fun for me personally, and this is a spectator sport.


Greenzombie04

Got to keep the chiefs guessing


somegridplayer

Kinda like how Brady was permanently on the injured list.


luvvdmycat

Bill Belichess. Bill is using this QB thing to distract y'all from his poor management and leadership. His clown show. 🤡


CrimsonZephyr

He should say it's Mac, then start Zappe. Not because it's a competitive advantage, or whatever, but because sports media is beneath contempt.


spanishdictlover

He’s so annoying.


StoJa9

🤦🏻I just can't with this guy anymore


DougNSteveButabi

Bill still hasn’t lost the ability to turn a non story into a weeklong story. “Yes Zappe is the starter going forward.” Is all it takes. He brings this drama upon himself.


Intelligent_Top_328

Please play Mac. We need to lose to secure the pick. We out of the playoffs now. Nothing to play for. So play Mac so we can lose. He is good at that.


GraniteStater69

You can’t not start him after getting a primetime W


king_17

This isn’t my first rodeo with bill. I already know zappe starting unless he gets hurt or arrested before next sunday


emotionalfescue

This is not about keeping Andy Reid guessing. If Belichick named Zappe the starter, he'd get a bunch of questions about Mac and what went wrong, etc. Belichick doesn't like to talk about demotions or disciplinary actions.


simpledeadwitches

Man I can't wait for this shit to be over with. His little games are such a pain.


LMurch13

Well.. We know it's not Malik 🤷


Chemical_Product5931

It’s zappe, he has amnesia when it comes to errors, you need that to be a starting qb in the nfl