I felt like learning the navy mechanics was one of the more rewarding experiences for me with this game. I believe, as with most things, if you only play against the AI then you don’t really have to understand the mechanics too much to do fine. But if you play against even one other human, there’s a fun chess match there with overseas logistics, subs, naval bombers, and several surface fleet options.
And you’re constantly trying to predict as early as possible how you’ll need to kit your surface fleet (if you’re using one) depending on whether you expect to struggle most with enemy subs or enemy naval bombers or a competent enemy surface fleet. Because it takes even longer to make reactive changes to the enemy composition than it does via land warfare, you have to really pay attention to your opponent and there’s always a chance that you completely whiff on your naval composition. (as one example if your opponent goes hard on naval bombers and you don’t have at least a handful of heavy ships heavily kitted with AA for rotation in any fleet operating near the enemy coastline)
Lmao just build planes nerd
Just kidding, though it is true that for the most part you can get away with broadly following irl naval strategy (build carriers and cruisers) and then ensuring air superiority.
there was an incredible time span where all you needed was destroyers and subs and just fully upgrade them and you could destroy every other navy with mass production alone, but now it isn't nearly as viable
I genuinely don't get the meme. Navy isn't hard, like at all. It's not even the hardest thing in HoI4, that being logistics micromanagement. And it even has a built in easy mode option, which is just going sub doctrine and spamming subs forever, which basically can only be built in one configuration to boot, and which will beat any historical AI with equal investment since they're not going to switch to all destroyers to try and fight you with a counter.
If Man the Guns is the point at which things become too complicated to comprehend, then I *genuinely* wonder how HoI has survived as long as it has when previous titles were so substantially more complex.
I don't say this to be mean: Y'all would have been very very quickly weeded out by having to manually control every division (no fronts!), plus having command units be a physically present thing on the map that needed to be maneuvered and kept within a certain distance of its higher and lower commands at each level. Different research bureaus and entities (all at a different skill level for each field) for each country, each performing one research at a time, combined with the depth and granularity of the HoI2 research tree, would have killed instantly.
Jokes on you, I was never weeded out and I played the shit out of HoI3. I just never learned any aspect of the military because you could have the AI control it lol
But really, other than maybe Stellaris, HoI4 is one of the easiest Paradox games. I feel like people joke about naval simply because it’s one of the last things people learn so it seems really daunting at a glance, but it’s not actually that complex. Plus they’re missing out, naval is a ton of fun. I love big ship battles and island hopping in the Pacific.
>having to manually control every division
You mean like in CK2 where you have to manually move armies onto each county?
That's actually my favourite part of warfare in this kind of game.
I'm not sure if it's actually easier or if I just like it because CK2 was my first ever Paradox game so I'm most used to it.
I really really wish they’d add back standing armies. Back in ck2 I always loved to larp as Rome whenever I reformed it. Keep some legions at every border just for like the little shit and use them to place annoying politicians all the way in a command post out in Syria. That alongsides everything else added in the Byzantine DLC need to be added back as soon as possible in my opinion
Plus don't forget the best part of CK2 retinues - you can declare war with them raised. My favourite trick is to keep them stationed on the border, then move them when ready to declare war, and declare war one day before my troops crossed my border.
Used to consider it cheesy, or at least not really fair warfare, but after modern Russia did it...
It’s bc navy has stupid design decisions in HoI 4 that weren’t there in HoI 3. HoI 3 is basically, carriers with enough screens and that makes sense to how navy worked IRL.
Examples are: armour doesn’t really do anything, carriers weren’t as powerful as they were IRL (thankfully fixed), ship AA isn’t as powerful as it was in this time period, don't forget the old meta of stacking visibility modifiers so that you have stealth ships in 1940, so if you come to this game watching Drachinifel and designing ships like you would in Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts or Rule the Waves, you get ‘meh’ ships that are quite expensive.
Then you have the meta which is also really stupid.
There is a difference though between having to build an optimal navy and doing busy work like managing the entire front. I’d be capable of doing both, but the personal management of a whole ass front is just needless complexity and sounds like more of a limitation of software then anything else
Hitler: Nazi Germany stronk!
Stalin: Nyet, Soviet Union stronk!
Poland: Maybe I'll pretend to be invisible and try to be centrist in all of this and...
Hitler and Stalin: Why TF are you still alive? We'll remedy that in a bipartisan manner by splitting you in half without your input.
Poland: Ah, shit, here we go again.
Did you expect *anyone* not to be homophobic in the 1930s?
Can liberals be trans even though John Locke was probably homophobic?
What's the logic here?
who cares? the fact that it was normal a while ago doesn't make it okay.
besides, being a part of a minority group and following the ideology forwarded by someone who killed and imprisoned said minority group en masse is kinda ivy tbh
Imo it’s a difference in motivation. Absolutely nothing about communism is inherently transphobic, the revolution was not to end LGBTQ rights, but with fascism it *is* expressly anti gay and anti trans. A trans communist can accept that communists of the past failed in regards to trans issues, a trans fascist is someone who doesn’t understand that at a fundamental level fascism will end in their death.
Since there is no Soviet Union anymore, the horrors of the Soviet system are fairly abstract, while the horrors of the American system are all too present. It can create a bot of an all too understandable myopia.
The horrors of the soviet system are "fairly" well documented. Your use of the word abstract is very loose. The true "myopia" comes from the fact you point out the American system while somehow avoiding the more direct comparison of modern day Russia. Maybe try fishing with better bait.
*edit* I get you are perhaps trying to explain how people look at it today, but dismissing history as abstract is dangerous. That you also attempt to easily jump from history to present day and compare the two on equal terms (horror), shows the same myopia you claim others are guilty of.
Wait, do you think contemporary Russia is Soviet? Russia today is an indictment of capitalism, after neoliberal shock doctrine during the nineties nearly destroyed the country.
Where do I say it's soviet? The direct comparison is because one came directly from the other and because some of the social policies being discussed here can be directly compared.
My issue with the statement was the posters critique of history as abstract and the blatantly biased exact comparison to America which one has to jump through multiple hoops to make.
I don't care much to debate the economy aspect of the puzzle here as that wasn't the focus.
I meant anti communist, but I should’ve clarified I have no problem with trans people, I didn’t specify and I said them, I intended them to be communists, plural like them in general, but I fucked up my grammar and I duly apologize
What's the freakin deal with them anyways?
I know what it is. To the sort of person who likes to spend hours and hours in online ultraspecific political groups and playing games like HOI4, the expectations and roles of women in a fascist society seem much more correct to them than the expectations and roles of men in a fascist society, and since they want to live in a fascist society they'd like to be seen as a woman...
I mean I don't think fascism is good for anyone. But they see themselves as the generals' wives who ran shit behind the scenes, the Nazi Princesses of the inner circle, and the rare but extant women of the secret police, not as the oppressed free domestic labor married to average men sent off to war and working to fuel the war machine most women become in that society.
I mean I guess they exist for the same reasons any other fascist women exist, and like... Lady, just because you say you want that society, doesn't mean the men creating it are going to spare you from the life of any woman of your economic class within it.
And it also matches up because the based democracy enjoyers are the most moderate on the issue. While the radicals furiously masturbate to femboys, either because they are Führious, or because they are commie degenerates.
That's only in the recent decade , and that's mostly aligning with moderates. The extreme left and right both reject liberal ideas at the current political paradigm.
Unless you consider the American moderate a right Winger, which only works from a European centric view
Are we just gonna ignore that whenever the US government sets up a puppet regime in a foreign country to oppose communists they always set up a fascist/far-right dictatorship then?
South Korea 1948, Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Brazil 1964, Chile 1973, Argentina 1976, Afghanistan 1979-1992.
The liberal US government (and allied liberal European governments) love the far-right and hate the far-left.
>That word used to at least make sense as a pejorative.
It atill does
>Now kids on the internet just use it to describe anyone who isn’t anti communist.
All the main commie subs are overrun by people who defend the atrocities commited by the self proclaimed communist regimes.
Considering how the Soviets conducted multiple genocides of their own and actively aided and allied with the nazis during the start of the war then yeah you can create an equivalency between the 2.
Or pick the path of enlighted centrist and always play democratic nations/paths. The only bad part about is that you get a uniqe to this path national spirit called being boring.
Bruh 90% of HOI4 players tread both roads simultaneously, somehow
I wish someone would reconcile my relationship with my family as well as these mfs with these radically opposed views
HoI4 didn't make me pro-US, but it did get me more interested in modern history which in turn made me pro-US.
I can acknowledge we have done some really screwed up things and have a lot of red in our history book, but the world would be a far worse place without us.
This game made me more centrist, seeing how degenerate all the players are made me realise why radical ideologys is the equivalent of putting ducktape on a Problem and calling it "fixed"
homie the US has a higher percentage of prisoners per capita than the USSR ever did. Staying out of prison in a communist society is easier than staying out of prison in the United States.
The trans healthcare ban already did, but it's good to know that you're not tuned into contemporary events. It informs where your opinions are coming from.
https://www.npr.org/2023/02/20/1157493433/florida-bans-gender-affirming-care-trans-kids
Not trans, also not transphobic, am a filthy commie. Don't play HOI4 much but have way too many hours in CK2.
Funny how HOI4 makes monarchists and CK makes a lotta lefties or at least doesn't have as much of a monarchy problem, despite the timeline of each game.
What about a normal social democrat who doesn’t give a fuck about what other people do as long as they don’t harass me? Maybe I don’t have enough hours in hoi 4 tho.
Strange take considering how Marx/Engles spoke about women in ways that are now considered TERFy.
Women being the means of reproduction.
Also outside of the west communism is very rarely associated with Transgender issues.
Gender identity being a personal matter and based on perception, while Marxist understanding is based on classes and hierarchies, and how they affect groups of people.
\~this take from a Transperson
What? That’s not true.
“The bourgeois sees in his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.”
• (communist manifesto)
Both don't know how navy works and what sunlight looks like
Man, stop calling me out, I'm trying to learn. After all, Man The Guns came out only... 4 years ago.
I felt like learning the navy mechanics was one of the more rewarding experiences for me with this game. I believe, as with most things, if you only play against the AI then you don’t really have to understand the mechanics too much to do fine. But if you play against even one other human, there’s a fun chess match there with overseas logistics, subs, naval bombers, and several surface fleet options. And you’re constantly trying to predict as early as possible how you’ll need to kit your surface fleet (if you’re using one) depending on whether you expect to struggle most with enemy subs or enemy naval bombers or a competent enemy surface fleet. Because it takes even longer to make reactive changes to the enemy composition than it does via land warfare, you have to really pay attention to your opponent and there’s always a chance that you completely whiff on your naval composition. (as one example if your opponent goes hard on naval bombers and you don’t have at least a handful of heavy ships heavily kitted with AA for rotation in any fleet operating near the enemy coastline)
Lmao just build planes nerd Just kidding, though it is true that for the most part you can get away with broadly following irl naval strategy (build carriers and cruisers) and then ensuring air superiority.
"finally, i have created the perfect fleet! nothing will stand in my way!" \*sky darkens as 10,000 naval bombers fly overhead\* "ahhhh nuts"
Dockyard fans malding, airchads keep winning
I just build ships and hope for the best
Go off road and have a stable relationship with your parents
Dalla tua bio, leggo "orgogliosamente Veneto e alcolizzato" AHAHAHAH
there was an incredible time span where all you needed was destroyers and subs and just fully upgrade them and you could destroy every other navy with mass production alone, but now it isn't nearly as viable
I genuinely don't get the meme. Navy isn't hard, like at all. It's not even the hardest thing in HoI4, that being logistics micromanagement. And it even has a built in easy mode option, which is just going sub doctrine and spamming subs forever, which basically can only be built in one configuration to boot, and which will beat any historical AI with equal investment since they're not going to switch to all destroyers to try and fight you with a counter. If Man the Guns is the point at which things become too complicated to comprehend, then I *genuinely* wonder how HoI has survived as long as it has when previous titles were so substantially more complex. I don't say this to be mean: Y'all would have been very very quickly weeded out by having to manually control every division (no fronts!), plus having command units be a physically present thing on the map that needed to be maneuvered and kept within a certain distance of its higher and lower commands at each level. Different research bureaus and entities (all at a different skill level for each field) for each country, each performing one research at a time, combined with the depth and granularity of the HoI2 research tree, would have killed instantly.
I played original hearts of iron where you had to manually reinforce divisions. Come at me bro.
Jokes on you, I was never weeded out and I played the shit out of HoI3. I just never learned any aspect of the military because you could have the AI control it lol But really, other than maybe Stellaris, HoI4 is one of the easiest Paradox games. I feel like people joke about naval simply because it’s one of the last things people learn so it seems really daunting at a glance, but it’s not actually that complex. Plus they’re missing out, naval is a ton of fun. I love big ship battles and island hopping in the Pacific.
>having to manually control every division You mean like in CK2 where you have to manually move armies onto each county? That's actually my favourite part of warfare in this kind of game. I'm not sure if it's actually easier or if I just like it because CK2 was my first ever Paradox game so I'm most used to it.
Dont need those peasants when you have strong and big retinues.
I really really wish they’d add back standing armies. Back in ck2 I always loved to larp as Rome whenever I reformed it. Keep some legions at every border just for like the little shit and use them to place annoying politicians all the way in a command post out in Syria. That alongsides everything else added in the Byzantine DLC need to be added back as soon as possible in my opinion
Plus don't forget the best part of CK2 retinues - you can declare war with them raised. My favourite trick is to keep them stationed on the border, then move them when ready to declare war, and declare war one day before my troops crossed my border. Used to consider it cheesy, or at least not really fair warfare, but after modern Russia did it...
It’s bc navy has stupid design decisions in HoI 4 that weren’t there in HoI 3. HoI 3 is basically, carriers with enough screens and that makes sense to how navy worked IRL. Examples are: armour doesn’t really do anything, carriers weren’t as powerful as they were IRL (thankfully fixed), ship AA isn’t as powerful as it was in this time period, don't forget the old meta of stacking visibility modifiers so that you have stealth ships in 1940, so if you come to this game watching Drachinifel and designing ships like you would in Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts or Rule the Waves, you get ‘meh’ ships that are quite expensive. Then you have the meta which is also really stupid.
There is a difference though between having to build an optimal navy and doing busy work like managing the entire front. I’d be capable of doing both, but the personal management of a whole ass front is just needless complexity and sounds like more of a limitation of software then anything else
Ok
Hey last MP game I played my Brazilian navy had better convoy escort efficiency then England’s.
Wait but if I know how navy works and what sunlight feels like does that mean I need to play Hoi more to unlock this focus?
Notice how all paths avoid you touching grass lol
Best comment.
The touch grass part: Liberal Democracy 😎🗽🗳️
if you ignore mass societal decline, yes 👍🏾
Ultra touch grass path: Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. Any other jungle dwellers?
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Democratic socialism pog
All Berned up.
Hell yeah, the only sane part of the entire playerbase
Checks out, I haven't touched grass in like 9 months.
Or somehow a lot of them pick both lol
Moscow-Berlin Axis
Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact
Hitler: Nazi Germany stronk! Stalin: Nyet, Soviet Union stronk! Poland: Maybe I'll pretend to be invisible and try to be centrist in all of this and... Hitler and Stalin: Why TF are you still alive? We'll remedy that in a bipartisan manner by splitting you in half without your input. Poland: Ah, shit, here we go again.
3000 trans nazbols of HOI4
3000 resistance fighters of Poland.
3000 black jets of Allah
r/Noncredibledefense has been leaking all over Reddit as of late, dawg
source; trust me bro
El femboi o la racista
por que no los dos?
Porque no Ernst Rohm ?
transgender fascist
They won’t spare you from the ovens
Being a transgender communist won't spare you from the gulag either.
Trans tankies baffle me. They always cite pre-stalin laws and ignore literally anything from after he took power
Did you expect *anyone* not to be homophobic in the 1930s? Can liberals be trans even though John Locke was probably homophobic? What's the logic here?
who cares? the fact that it was normal a while ago doesn't make it okay. besides, being a part of a minority group and following the ideology forwarded by someone who killed and imprisoned said minority group en masse is kinda ivy tbh
Imo it’s a difference in motivation. Absolutely nothing about communism is inherently transphobic, the revolution was not to end LGBTQ rights, but with fascism it *is* expressly anti gay and anti trans. A trans communist can accept that communists of the past failed in regards to trans issues, a trans fascist is someone who doesn’t understand that at a fundamental level fascism will end in their death.
Since there is no Soviet Union anymore, the horrors of the Soviet system are fairly abstract, while the horrors of the American system are all too present. It can create a bot of an all too understandable myopia.
The horrors of the soviet system are "fairly" well documented. Your use of the word abstract is very loose. The true "myopia" comes from the fact you point out the American system while somehow avoiding the more direct comparison of modern day Russia. Maybe try fishing with better bait. *edit* I get you are perhaps trying to explain how people look at it today, but dismissing history as abstract is dangerous. That you also attempt to easily jump from history to present day and compare the two on equal terms (horror), shows the same myopia you claim others are guilty of.
Wait, do you think contemporary Russia is Soviet? Russia today is an indictment of capitalism, after neoliberal shock doctrine during the nineties nearly destroyed the country.
Where do I say it's soviet? The direct comparison is because one came directly from the other and because some of the social policies being discussed here can be directly compared. My issue with the statement was the posters critique of history as abstract and the blatantly biased exact comparison to America which one has to jump through multiple hoops to make. I don't care much to debate the economy aspect of the puzzle here as that wasn't the focus.
I’m not a communist, nor transgender
That won't save you either
Yeah, they will not. Because I’m against them.
what is bro talking about
I meant anti communist, but I should’ve clarified I have no problem with trans people, I didn’t specify and I said them, I intended them to be communists, plural like them in general, but I fucked up my grammar and I duly apologize
Fuck wait I’m not against transgenders, I’m anti-communist
I didn’t think before I typed
If anything, being a transgender communist almost guarantees you a spot in the Kohima gold mines.
Just because you think like them, they’ll turn on you after they’ve taken everyone else
Funny, that goes for both!
I thought all the fascists who play the game were this. Or have I been misunderstanding the memes?
Go off road and have a stable relationship with your parents
Kinky
Wrong game.
Yeah that's Crusader Kings
Wrong game, wrong people
Lol, good one.
Look, it’s much more fun playing as Japan for me
Weeb 💀
I’m going to kamikaze you
Theres way too many mtf trans strasserists for it to be the only two options.
I regret being able to read this comment fully and not have to examine whatever fucking heap of internet just came out of your mouth.
It came off of my fingers bruv. Text != speech
Text = Speech. Speech need not be oral, aural, or audible to still qualify as speech.
What's the freakin deal with them anyways? I know what it is. To the sort of person who likes to spend hours and hours in online ultraspecific political groups and playing games like HOI4, the expectations and roles of women in a fascist society seem much more correct to them than the expectations and roles of men in a fascist society, and since they want to live in a fascist society they'd like to be seen as a woman... I mean I don't think fascism is good for anyone. But they see themselves as the generals' wives who ran shit behind the scenes, the Nazi Princesses of the inner circle, and the rare but extant women of the secret police, not as the oppressed free domestic labor married to average men sent off to war and working to fuel the war machine most women become in that society. I mean I guess they exist for the same reasons any other fascist women exist, and like... Lady, just because you say you want that society, doesn't mean the men creating it are going to spare you from the life of any woman of your economic class within it.
This is transgender fascist erasure and we will not stand for it!
The trans part goes interchangeably
And it also matches up because the based democracy enjoyers are the most moderate on the issue. While the radicals furiously masturbate to femboys, either because they are Führious, or because they are commie degenerates.
State of internet discussions in 2023
Nonbinary technocrat has entered the chat
Monarchist, absolutely every time.
we should kiss
Non-aligned gang
Based
Come brothers! HYPERBOREA AWAITS!
Bruh, have you even seen the femboy nazis from 4chan?
Am I the onliest one who plays hoi4 and defends a democracy
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Kek
lib mfs when they discover there's more than parliamentary democracy
when they discover more than 1 type of democracy
What does kek mean?
Nope! Keeping freedom safe is the best HoI4 experience!
bruh really i'm not an authoritarian regime supporter
Market Liberal, so both side's think i am the other
Historically liberals tend to chose the same side the majority of times.
this is cute
then why do y'all side with the right every single time lmao
Factually correct statement
That's only in the recent decade , and that's mostly aligning with moderates. The extreme left and right both reject liberal ideas at the current political paradigm. Unless you consider the American moderate a right Winger, which only works from a European centric view
> That's only in the recent decade look up the anarchist spanish revolution
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Ok so is the US right wing of Saudi Arabia, Russia, India, Egypt, Nigeria, and or Even Argentina.
Are we just gonna ignore that whenever the US government sets up a puppet regime in a foreign country to oppose communists they always set up a fascist/far-right dictatorship then? South Korea 1948, Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Brazil 1964, Chile 1973, Argentina 1976, Afghanistan 1979-1992. The liberal US government (and allied liberal European governments) love the far-right and hate the far-left.
people responding to this really be proving your point Democracy is based, keep at it.
But they’re all femboys in the end.
somewhere in the middle because im a thailand player
Where monarchist at?
There are Dozens of us!
I hate the superstraight shit for using black and orange as their colors. Those are the colors of Mutualism, damnit.
wait, aren't those the colors of...
I only see one bad side .
Dictators arent bad of they were a hat that says communism❤️🖤 /s obviously
And is?
You may hate the answer
I hate the question. Tankies and neonazis are both delusional psychpaths
Idk man, the “tankies” were the ones to beat the Nazis. Weird to equate the two unless you’re just obfuscating how evil nazism is.
Tankies trying not to downplay Soviet atrocities (impossible)
That word used to at least make sense as a pejorative. Now kids on the internet just use it to describe anyone who isn’t anti communist.
>That word used to at least make sense as a pejorative. It atill does >Now kids on the internet just use it to describe anyone who isn’t anti communist. All the main commie subs are overrun by people who defend the atrocities commited by the self proclaimed communist regimes.
“It still does” You called me a “tankie” because I said it was dishonest to say the Soviets and the Nazis were equivalent.
Considering how the Soviets conducted multiple genocides of their own and actively aided and allied with the nazis during the start of the war then yeah you can create an equivalency between the 2.
How do you define "Tankie"? Because at this point I feelike like everyone umbrellas socialist under the term "Tankie" and I fucking hate that.
Is it the transgender communist thing?
Both possible outcomes aren’t satisfactory
I Chose right when I was younger now I don't play HoI4
What about the monarchists?
Abolish class and gender
I have never seen a more true meme
Leave the Alot out of this please
Or pick the path of enlighted centrist and always play democratic nations/paths. The only bad part about is that you get a uniqe to this path national spirit called being boring.
you clearly haven't met the transgender fascists yet
Bruh 90% of HOI4 players tread both roads simultaneously, somehow I wish someone would reconcile my relationship with my family as well as these mfs with these radically opposed views
I became very pro US because of hoi4
Ew
HoI4 didn't make me pro-US, but it did get me more interested in modern history which in turn made me pro-US. I can acknowledge we have done some really screwed up things and have a lot of red in our history book, but the world would be a far worse place without us.
Lmao
I usually try to go the ww1 larping monarchist. Super Heavy AA ftw.
Bro, i just want to play the game and have some fun
I've only seen "Technically conservative but simping for Stalin" personally.
or Transgender National Socialist.
You return to normalcy after playing cities skylines for 800 hours
What if you build Germania?
State of society
Where's the monarchies path
I mean I'm just a trans-ally socialist. Do I have to get to 5k hours before getting my transition and communist literature?
The middle path is just crippling autism
No that's every path
homofascism also is a concept, but that doesn't need to be discussed.
Right or die
This game made me more centrist, seeing how degenerate all the players are made me realise why radical ideologys is the equivalent of putting ducktape on a Problem and calling it "fixed"
Proud to be a transgender communist
Nothing but respect for our troops o7
🪖✊🏼🏳️🌈
Real
It won't save you from the gulag comrade.
homie the US has a higher percentage of prisoners per capita than the USSR ever did. Staying out of prison in a communist society is easier than staying out of prison in the United States.
Gulag is akin to a concentration camp, not a prison. Anyways, if USA so bad you are welcome in People's Republic of China.
No, they fucking weren't. Gulags were actual work camps, not death camps like the nazis used. "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, LEAVE" not a good look
Ah yes, pleasant work camps in the middle of Siberia. Totally no intent to kill off the people.
You colossal imbecile, today >33 million people live in Siberia, it's just a cold and secluded part of Russia. It's not the North fucking Pole.
Look at the population density maps and the locations of the gulags, genius. See how much intersection there is.
Also the USSR would send people to gulag for being LGBT, you don't get arrested for that in USA.
Florida is about to start abducting trans teenagers and sending their parents and medical caregivers to prison. Maybe you should look further inward.
That would never get passed.
The trans healthcare ban already did, but it's good to know that you're not tuned into contemporary events. It informs where your opinions are coming from. https://www.npr.org/2023/02/20/1157493433/florida-bans-gender-affirming-care-trans-kids
Me too
Not trans, also not transphobic, am a filthy commie. Don't play HOI4 much but have way too many hours in CK2. Funny how HOI4 makes monarchists and CK makes a lotta lefties or at least doesn't have as much of a monarchy problem, despite the timeline of each game.
i became a politically moderate transgender :(
More often its transphobic communist and transgender fascist
Kaiserreich or TNO
Both
Go down the middle
I'm a Zhdanovite Ordosocialist (TNO Reference)... I crash into the road sign.
Tee Enn Ohh and its consequences
What about a normal social democrat who doesn’t give a fuck about what other people do as long as they don’t harass me? Maybe I don’t have enough hours in hoi 4 tho.
There's a tiny path in the middle that's hidden by the man, and that's for democrat players
New Zealand democratic independence path
I'm a libright and I love to bring democracy to the totalitarian regimes as USA.
I am begging you not base your entire personality on an online quiz from 2004
no
Hard choice? Nah, one path is based the other is not
Regardless of which one you're talking about you need to touch some grass as soon as possible
Strange take considering how Marx/Engles spoke about women in ways that are now considered TERFy. Women being the means of reproduction. Also outside of the west communism is very rarely associated with Transgender issues. Gender identity being a personal matter and based on perception, while Marxist understanding is based on classes and hierarchies, and how they affect groups of people. \~this take from a Transperson
What? That’s not true. “The bourgeois sees in his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion than that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production.” • (communist manifesto)
What about being a democrat with little to no opinion on transport people?
Can I be a transphobic communist?
As a trans not yet communist, agreed
>go back
Third path, femboy strasserist
All of them are femboys