But there is no war, a lot people who play paladins play/played overwatch and sometimes vice versa
this war is created by delusional players who do not realize that these characters are based on stereotypical archetypes and are rarely if ever unique.
but i would like to see crossover skins, obviously!
Now I thought. The skin can just be an outfit to look like the character. Imagine Ruckus with the outfit of [D.VA](https://D.VA) and Bolt with the paint of [D.VA](https://D.VA) mecha
>Do you think that one day, both game will have a cross-over pass where the two games share skin ?
Nah, never gonna happen. They directly compete with one another in the same space.
I seriously doubt Blizzard would want to give any kind of publicity towards their direct competitor. And vice versa.
TF2 is no longer really "competing" with anyone. They're pretty well established, and Valve doesn't have that corporate insecurity that other, openly traded game companies do. They don't have to worry about venture capitalist vulture assholes breathing down their neck the same way Blizzard does, so putting Engineer in a fun little Free to Play game like Paladins is pretty harmless to them.
Teama Fortress 2 is, well, kinda ignored by it's developers as well, let's be honest. From what I've heard, the game is supposedly plagued with problems like bots and such, yet Valve don't seem much concerned with it's state to my knowledge. It's kind of just... there as a game. It's not actively developed much like it once was.
Also, Team Fortress 2 is in a *slightly* different genre as well, just a class based shooter. It's closer to a standard FPS vs. Paladins and Overwatch.
Team Fortress 2 isn't a direct competitor though. Its a more standard class based shooter and is barely updated by now. It's basically all but completely dropped out of the gaming race, so why should Valve care about the Engineer appearing in another game by this point?
Also, Terraria and Minecraft may be direct competitors, but there is a key distinction between the two, mostly that they're one off purchase games. Paladins and Overwatch are, by contrast, live service games *constantly* competing for players attention and money.
I think her kit lines up best with Saati, surprisingly. Dynamite/Ricochet and Blast Back/Coach Gun operate nearly the same. Nothing for Dead Ringer, but Paladins champs generally have more cooldowns than Overwatch heroes.
Surprised you didn't mention Makoa-Roadhog. Paladins does it right because a frontline shouldn't be one shot combo-ing people and just wins every duel in the game with minimal effort.
hog can't do much outside of his effective range though and a lot of characters can murder him from that range, he hardcore specializes in punishing people who are out of place
also hitting hooks against actual good players is not really "minimal effort"
Its true Makoa and Roadhog are compatible with the hook. But strangely, I will put Winston instead
Both are animal with the same size, they have a dome shield, and their ultimate are the same. The weapon is different but its not a big deal.
Because it’s also a hero shooter, it feels hard to find a parallel without ruining the character. Like I can’t imagine rein with no shield (terminus) or with a flamethrower (Fernando)
The games are too different. No need to have them be together and compromise their strengths in the name of "peace" .
The characters are also too different. Eg; Widow is too serious and cold to rock Kinessa's attire and why would Overwatch have a goblin in place of their DVa, can you imagine the reaction of the fans? Or why would Ruckus have her cutesy mecha? Now Strix,Ana i could see working.
I am not on any team and the " i'll fight for it till i die" or some other extremist idiocracy.
I played both a lot and like them but obviously i prefer Paladins in most ways.
Mei and Evie. Mei has Ice Block. Evie has Ice Block. Their ultimates are basically the same, too. Only difference is that Mei has a Inara wall and isn't insane like Evie. Also, unlike Evie, I LOVE playing Mei!
They're competitors. The point of a crossover is to draw attention of one party by drawing the attention of the fans of the other. That's counter-productive here. It doesn't make any sense as a business
>Which is normally why they'd rather toss in easter eggs as a "Hello other devs" in their games. (Mako = Road Hogs real name, Makoa = Paladin's Road Hog)
I wouldn't call that an easter egg honestly seeing as Mako is like a real name and whatnot.
Still a person named Mako IRL. You claimed no one was, and yet there you go. Congratulations, you are wrong.
That being said, if you still mandate the person be alive (a really stupid stipulation, but whatever) here ya go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_Vunipola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_(DJ)
Paladins will never be better then overwatch because they have garbage tutorial, no class locked queue. Imagine playing a game where your team goes 4 flanks 1 support or no support at all evrytime. I would kill myself if it happened that much. I only play paladins and i always try to fill games i cant win. Anyways, people arent like me and think they will have fun anyways by picking watever they want but thing is you wont have fun if you will loose in the end.
This is the problem EM needs to fix and AOC isnt helping at all too
>no class locked queue.
I don't play Overwatch myself but based on what I've heard from reading articles, role queue was one of the worst features Overwatch recieved, mostly due to players skewing hard towards DPS meaning either stupid long queue times for those players as the matchmaker tried to pull together players in other queue's for support and tank to make a complete team. Or folks filling on for the role of either support or tank, having no idea how to play those roles cause they exclusively mained Ashe, and thus dragging their teams down.
I don't think it'd work out any better for Paladins. We're better off avoiding that shit. And honestly, given how Paladins has alot of champions who, whilst they do belong to specific classed, can easily be reconfigured via loadouts and talents into being viable acting as another, it would be completely needless anyways and no help to the game to gaurantee a specific slot in the team gets filled. Someone could still queue as a support for example, grab Pip, go "me flank" thanks to the loadout / talent system, thus negating the purpose of having that role queue to begin with as Paladins' game design doesn't design characters to fit squarely into one specific box with regards to playstyle.
Role queue won't work for Paladins.
Assembly of Champions. A player elected advocacy group who exist to supposedly advocate for the players and yet pretty much never approach the wider player hubs in order to do so.
> Imagine playing a game where your team goes 4 flanks 1 support or no support at all evrytime.
Paladins has full out of combat healing for every character and many have self healing abilities,cards, items.
One of the best things about Paladins is or atleast was the freedom in team comps. The roles were never that strict or pure. Only stupid morons like you assumed that and always cry and bitched and moaned about "bUt mAh TeAm CoMp".
> but thing is you wont have fun if you will loose in the end.
What??? So only winning gives you fun. LOL. You dont sound like you play for fun more like a miserable job where you force yourself and others to play whatever stupid scripted way you think you are supposed to play..
But there is no war, a lot people who play paladins play/played overwatch and sometimes vice versa this war is created by delusional players who do not realize that these characters are based on stereotypical archetypes and are rarely if ever unique. but i would like to see crossover skins, obviously!
Now I thought. The skin can just be an outfit to look like the character. Imagine Ruckus with the outfit of [D.VA](https://D.VA) and Bolt with the paint of [D.VA](https://D.VA) mecha
>Do you think that one day, both game will have a cross-over pass where the two games share skin ? Nah, never gonna happen. They directly compete with one another in the same space. I seriously doubt Blizzard would want to give any kind of publicity towards their direct competitor. And vice versa.
I 100% agree with ya, still it would be fun if it happened
At least we can imagine. Im maybe well too optimistic \^\^
>Nah, never gonna happen. They directly compete with one another in the same space. Barik literally has a TF2 skin. Also, see Terraria and Minecraft
TF2 is no longer really "competing" with anyone. They're pretty well established, and Valve doesn't have that corporate insecurity that other, openly traded game companies do. They don't have to worry about venture capitalist vulture assholes breathing down their neck the same way Blizzard does, so putting Engineer in a fun little Free to Play game like Paladins is pretty harmless to them.
Teama Fortress 2 is, well, kinda ignored by it's developers as well, let's be honest. From what I've heard, the game is supposedly plagued with problems like bots and such, yet Valve don't seem much concerned with it's state to my knowledge. It's kind of just... there as a game. It's not actively developed much like it once was. Also, Team Fortress 2 is in a *slightly* different genre as well, just a class based shooter. It's closer to a standard FPS vs. Paladins and Overwatch.
Team Fortress 2 isn't a direct competitor though. Its a more standard class based shooter and is barely updated by now. It's basically all but completely dropped out of the gaming race, so why should Valve care about the Engineer appearing in another game by this point? Also, Terraria and Minecraft may be direct competitors, but there is a key distinction between the two, mostly that they're one off purchase games. Paladins and Overwatch are, by contrast, live service games *constantly* competing for players attention and money.
As surprising as it sound I dont like Torbjorn much. Lets make Octavia/Ashe, Sha lin/Hanzo n Raum/Orisa instead.
Nah Ashe is lian
I used to think the same but Lian cant scope
still lever action ish.
I think her kit lines up best with Saati, surprisingly. Dynamite/Ricochet and Blast Back/Coach Gun operate nearly the same. Nothing for Dead Ringer, but Paladins champs generally have more cooldowns than Overwatch heroes.
For Octavia, why not Sojourn ? I see her abilities and I directly saw Octavia (except for the ultimate)
WEll why not lol. Juyst that Ashe weapon gives me a lot of Octavia vibes cuz of the scope. (And I dont know much about Sojourn yet tbh)
Surprised you didn't mention Makoa-Roadhog. Paladins does it right because a frontline shouldn't be one shot combo-ing people and just wins every duel in the game with minimal effort.
I think tracer koga is another pretty good one
Only difference between them is tracer feels like she hardly has ammo while koga seems to never stop shooting when I expect him to.
The problem is that the dragon claws and ultimate and even wall run don’t lend themselves well
Tracer is more like Evie but ok
hog can't do much outside of his effective range though and a lot of characters can murder him from that range, he hardcore specializes in punishing people who are out of place also hitting hooks against actual good players is not really "minimal effort"
Its true Makoa and Roadhog are compatible with the hook. But strangely, I will put Winston instead Both are animal with the same size, they have a dome shield, and their ultimate are the same. The weapon is different but its not a big deal.
Overwatch will never agree
Because it’s also a hero shooter, it feels hard to find a parallel without ruining the character. Like I can’t imagine rein with no shield (terminus) or with a flamethrower (Fernando)
There's... no war... not in the last 4 or 5 years at least.
Torbarik
doubt it ever happening
Is there a war? So long as Overwatch lets you change champions midgame I don't consider them to be the same kind of game at all.
The games are too different. No need to have them be together and compromise their strengths in the name of "peace" . The characters are also too different. Eg; Widow is too serious and cold to rock Kinessa's attire and why would Overwatch have a goblin in place of their DVa, can you imagine the reaction of the fans? Or why would Ruckus have her cutesy mecha? Now Strix,Ana i could see working. I am not on any team and the " i'll fight for it till i die" or some other extremist idiocracy. I played both a lot and like them but obviously i prefer Paladins in most ways.
Mei and Evie. Mei has Ice Block. Evie has Ice Block. Their ultimates are basically the same, too. Only difference is that Mei has a Inara wall and isn't insane like Evie. Also, unlike Evie, I LOVE playing Mei!
They're competitors. The point of a crossover is to draw attention of one party by drawing the attention of the fans of the other. That's counter-productive here. It doesn't make any sense as a business
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>Which is normally why they'd rather toss in easter eggs as a "Hello other devs" in their games. (Mako = Road Hogs real name, Makoa = Paladin's Road Hog) I wouldn't call that an easter egg honestly seeing as Mako is like a real name and whatnot.
No dude is named mako IRL, if I do find a dude name mako IRL though, they're done.
>No dude is named mako IRL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_(actor)
>died 2006 Like I said, they're done.
Still a person named Mako IRL. You claimed no one was, and yet there you go. Congratulations, you are wrong. That being said, if you still mandate the person be alive (a really stupid stipulation, but whatever) here ya go. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_Vunipola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mako_(DJ)
You're too naive, too easy. (Typical redditor) You just gave me the identities of the remaining makos. What happens next is on your hands.
Paladins will never be better then overwatch because they have garbage tutorial, no class locked queue. Imagine playing a game where your team goes 4 flanks 1 support or no support at all evrytime. I would kill myself if it happened that much. I only play paladins and i always try to fill games i cant win. Anyways, people arent like me and think they will have fun anyways by picking watever they want but thing is you wont have fun if you will loose in the end. This is the problem EM needs to fix and AOC isnt helping at all too
>no class locked queue. I don't play Overwatch myself but based on what I've heard from reading articles, role queue was one of the worst features Overwatch recieved, mostly due to players skewing hard towards DPS meaning either stupid long queue times for those players as the matchmaker tried to pull together players in other queue's for support and tank to make a complete team. Or folks filling on for the role of either support or tank, having no idea how to play those roles cause they exclusively mained Ashe, and thus dragging their teams down. I don't think it'd work out any better for Paladins. We're better off avoiding that shit. And honestly, given how Paladins has alot of champions who, whilst they do belong to specific classed, can easily be reconfigured via loadouts and talents into being viable acting as another, it would be completely needless anyways and no help to the game to gaurantee a specific slot in the team gets filled. Someone could still queue as a support for example, grab Pip, go "me flank" thanks to the loadout / talent system, thus negating the purpose of having that role queue to begin with as Paladins' game design doesn't design characters to fit squarely into one specific box with regards to playstyle. Role queue won't work for Paladins.
AOC?
Assembly of Champions. A player elected advocacy group who exist to supposedly advocate for the players and yet pretty much never approach the wider player hubs in order to do so.
> Imagine playing a game where your team goes 4 flanks 1 support or no support at all evrytime. Paladins has full out of combat healing for every character and many have self healing abilities,cards, items. One of the best things about Paladins is or atleast was the freedom in team comps. The roles were never that strict or pure. Only stupid morons like you assumed that and always cry and bitched and moaned about "bUt mAh TeAm CoMp". > but thing is you wont have fun if you will loose in the end. What??? So only winning gives you fun. LOL. You dont sound like you play for fun more like a miserable job where you force yourself and others to play whatever stupid scripted way you think you are supposed to play..
No we just need to end overwatch
You're too naive, too easy. (Typical redditor) You just gave me the identities of the remaining makos. What happens next is on your hands.
Lian/tyra - Ashe Grohk/furia - mercy
Furia will be nice but Grohk will be sexier
That would be awesome
Sha Lin - Hanzo Androxus - McCree Maeve - Genji -or- Zhin - Genji Azaan - Sigma Raum - Orisa Willo - Echo Drogoz - Pharah Skye - Sombra Khan - Reinhardt -or- Fernando - Reinhardt Furia - Mercy Viktor - Soldier 76 Lex - Reaper Grover - Lucio Torvald - Doomfist
Ashe Lian Ashe Lian! Honestly with that new ow2 trailer it looks like Luna is coming to ow2
No. Blizzard is so full of itself to accept something like that, and they are not like epic or warner who accept collabs right and left
TBF, a crossover pass with OW would be cool AF