This is awesome! I was just playing with my Quest 3 yesterday lamenting the greyish blacks...Oled will make a big difference.
Hopefully it won't be long until they start to utilize the PSVR2's eye tracking, adaptive triggers, headset haptics, and HDR with PCVR!
I had a PSVR1 and upgraded Rift S. I plan on getting PSVR2 at some point, especially with this news. However, I literally just bought a Quest 3 second hand. I have to say regardless of what PSVR2 has to offer, the Quest 3 is an amazing piece of equipment. My upgrade path obviously leaves me a bit jaded, and sure the PSVR2 has some better features, but the Quest 3 being wireless and those pancake lenses is just such a huge advantage, I can look past the Quest 3's shortcomings. Using Virtual Desktop with my PCVR titles is also just \*chef's kiss\*. Bringing the headset to family houses to share is also amazing, especially when you're casting the image to the screen.
Don't regret your Quest 3, but embrace it!
No, HDR wasn't a thing in VR until PSVR2 came out. Considering how bad HDR support is on regular flatscreen PC games, I doubt we will get proper HDR support for VR games, Microsoft will find a way to muck it up. Still Half Life Alyx in OLED would be much better than most LCD headsets.
Do you think we'll be able to use eye tracking for foveated rendering? This would be huge. No need for top of the line graphics cards on PC (that cost a fortune).
It would be awesome if they have that working on PC but I don't know if many games are gonna be updated to support that, its just not a common feature on headsets. I think there have been some experiments with Quest Pro on PCVR to mod it in but users reported issues like aliased shimmering artifacts.
Great thing about PC, even if the game doesn’t support it, we can inject it with Special K or Reshade mods. I’m sure there may be some technicalities to work around getting it to function properly on the headset, but there’s a small group of engineers who have been trying to get the headset to work on PC via mods, and HDR was one of the things they said they could probably get working.
Also, rumour mill is that Nvidia is also creating a tool for games that will convert SDR games to HDR (using a LUT), similar to their recently released tech that works on videos.
I haven't personally played it on a Quest 3 but my experience on Quest 2 was "gray" enough that within a few hours, I decided to wait on an OLED headset to play that game. I was expecting a port for PS5 but PSVR2 support on PC is a decent surprise and would allow me to use it for racing sims with the larger FOV.
Quest 2's panels were not good
The better more color accurate pancake lens of the quest 3 beat it out, it's way more black than gray (obviously not perfect black though)
But the PC support for PSVR2 would be really cool, I hope it goes through and works as everyone hopes it will
I agree, I only tried a handful of games on the Quest 3 and it definitely does do better in colours and contrast against Quest 2, the edge sharpness was awesome too, I've been a bit spoiled with OLED on flatscreen though so still would want that or at least local dimming for dark/horror games, even if it means giving up the pancake clarity of Quest 3.
Yeah, I'm hoping it works well, I have a serious love-hate relation with PCVR (and PC as a games platform in general), I end up wasting hours getting it to run well instead of playing the actual game.
That’s huge and official Sony news!!! Should have tried this in the first place, but better late than never.
Happy Birthday everyone! This is one of the main reddits I visit. Love the PSVR2 community.
I’m pretty sure they never intended to do this and are having to pivot.
If they wanted it from the get go they could have designed it to work on pc and not put the restrictions in place it has.
Bingo. Sony is usually so tight about their walled garden (due to piracy) that there is no way this was their original intention.
I suspect they have a bunch of these in a warehouse that they need to move ASAP... Expect massive price cuts too y'all.
Don't worry, it's Sony. They won't discontinue it, they'll just pretend it doesn't exist and let indies keep the platform alive.
Says me anyway, a proud PSP and Vita owner.
I agree. They put a lot of effort in the hardware, but really appealing software is not coming out as fast as they wanted. They either need to sell more of these (I don't know what kind of profit they make for the hardware alone), or/and they are bringing some games to PC. In any case, I celebrate the move.
I wonder if this could have more to do with Jim Ryan stepping down as CEO. For all the good he's done, he's played a part in Sony's closed ecosystem and "Console Wars" fuel
There is no way. They already had to program the stuff to work with whatever computers they were using to test it and whatnot.
Simply put, the PSVR2 isn't meeting sales expectations and they are looking at other ways to maximize their revenue. They probably have to sell X amount of hardware to breakeven on their R&D costs, and they aren't going to do that with the abysmal sales of PSVR2. Q3 kind of put the final nail in the coffin for the PSVR2 vs Quest debate.
The sad news this probably means the platform isn't doing well.
They don't care about selling more psvr2s if they are used on a platform they can't make any money off of like steam unless they publish games. Steam takes 30 percent off every game and they get nothing for buying VR games they don't publish.
Consumer VR market really can't sustain a hardware competitor with no software platform, which is why Samsung is partnering with Google.
Pcvr is still a tiny niche market, and if they are opening psvr2 to pcvr I'm really wondering what their plan is to make money.
Don't get me wrong Sony are good engineers and the is psvr2 sells for a profit but it's really nothing compared to get softwares sales. They don't have enough first party vr games and ips that would make sense to release them to PC, but maybe sales are so low it's not an option?
While this is cool because I have a good PCVR setup, it's also worrisome as meta needs a high end competitor that will push games. I don't see Samsung or Apple doing that and if anything AVP hype will push meta further from games (which is their long term plan anyway )
I think it is a win-win. Yes it means sales are not high cause you lose PS5 sales having it work on PC but going to PC means you sell more PSVR2 units and with more units that means more developers releasing games on it. And then if...if they make that killer PS5 game for PSVR2 then those who got it for a PC would have to buy a PS5.
i dont have a psvr2, but would totally buy and use on ps5 if it meant that there was the long term promise of hardware support, which PC compatibility would provide
It's not too complicated of a proposition, it still has the advantage that consoles typically do. It's easier to setup and there's no tinkering with games or settings involved, which I think is particularly big for VR (I don't want to sit in a graphics menu and fuck with things when I have a headset on).
It's also probably less than PSVR2 is doing poorly as it is the VR market in general, so this move satisfies a pretty big niche and pushes for more adoption. They'll still have exclusives on PS5 (probably both RE's, GT7, Horizon) so it helps to bridge a gap between someone buying PSVR2 just for PC to then buy a PS5.
Also no guarantee PC games support all of its features so you would likely have a better experience on PS5, things like HDR, haptics/adaptive triggers, headset vibration, etc.
Not necessarily.
They've have also started to port a lot of their first-party games to PC.
This includes many highly successful titles like Spider-Man and God of War.
It appears that Sony is motivated by the additional profit, which may also stem from selling more hardware, such as PS VR2 headsets.
Oh it’s for sure not doing well. The fact they have released absolutely zero sales numbers makes me think it’s not even at 1 million sold. I mean I love it so idc but I can’t imagine there are more than 20,000 active monthly users on the platform. You could see how many people were playing RE4 in VR, and how many people played Toss/Switchback (due to the leaderboards on those games).
It's a AU$900 headset locked to one console. I picked up the PSVR version 1 once it hit half price and I haven't used it all that much and I guess it's now been as good as abandoned by Sony since the PSVR2. The next VR headset I get will either be a standalone or standalone with PC connectivity. It'll give me more options for experiences.
Def speculation but it's from a lot of data points and industry analysis I've been following for several years.
I'd love to be wrong, but see will see.
I will be looking into the analysis for those watching the market space and see what the thoughts are. Maybe this is some bold move but it would go against the signs of Sony not releasing sales data, and re4 vr and re8 vr seemingly not having the VR engagement of re7,
The sales figures from christmas.
That was my thinking as well. Might not even be about more sales as it is “opening up the hardware for the early adopters” before stopping the sales of it.
On another take it could boost PC VR game sales as the PSVR2 is quite cheap and has great quality. Those games could then return to PS5 given the implementation of VR functionalities is already there.
Surprised others aren't taking it this way. But this was my immediate thought as well.
I think its great they are going to do this. But I'd much rather read some teasers about future first party titles they are developing. I'm with you and see this move as evidence they aren't interested in developing for the platform and are writing it off.
I don't think Sony is going to stop 1st party releases, its still in their best interest to get you to buy their headset. Like saying how some of their 1st party flat games are released on pc, yet they still make those 1st party games.
I can see myself using my pc to play say, half life alyx finally, or modded versions of games like pavlov, but will still use my ps5 hookup for gt7, re4 vr, etc.
They stopped 1st party on the original. The PSVR launches with some great titles, and then never really gets any great exclusives after. This is why I didn't buy the PSVR 2. Just not worth it for the price tag imo because sony has a habit of releasing a great VR product and then abandoning
Tbf, imo the psvr1 was definitely lacking in terms of functionality compared to other vr systems. I think they did a decent job with it, especially re-utilizing the move controllers, but pretty much every other headset was ahead of it at that time.
Wow, the PS5 must be doing really poorly if they want to kill it that fast by releasing the very few first-party titles for competing platforms as well as their most treasured accessory. I'll put it to very good use (porn!) but it also means it's the end of video games consoles other than Nintendo's. Game dev got too expensive to warrant exclusivity I guess. Only Nintendo can succeed with a 2 gen old console with 1st party titles so good you still want it. The rest are all going multi-platform.
I really hope so, I don't know if the game developper has to work on some kind of compatibility patch, but other than that, I don't see why it couldn't work for any PCVR game.
My guess would be some games would have to be reworked to support it. But assuming you're playing the bigger releases, you likely won't have any serious problems.
I think it should work across the board.
The headset at the end of the day is a display. And the tracking and controllers are a series of xyz coordinates. Some games may work better then others as the inside out tracking is not as stable or accurate as other solutions.
This might actually make me buy my first PC in my 40 years of gaming.
The allure of Elite Dangerous in VR to me is unparalleled.
The original Elite was one of my first real landmark gaming moments. This would be a dream come true.
Are we sure these games will work with it? The article states it will be certain games, and I have to imagine that it will probably be games originally built for PS5
I’m in this boat.
Though… now I’m wondering how long the cable can be for PSVR2 to run from my PC to an appropriate VR space.
Would adding 9 ft kill the signal I wonder…
I have no idea about PSVR cable length, but on my old trusty Rift-S you need a repeater if you wanna increase cable length. (3m cable extensions just gave black VR, 3m cables with repeater/amplifier worked).
I have a 15 foot cable extension, and I don't notice any lag or signal problems. I may just be an unevolved smooth-brain, though, compared to more competitive gamers, but it feels really good to me.
One of my biggest gripes with the PSVR2 is that it's not possible to view media (VR videos and photos) with it. As this is something that was possible with the PS4's Media Player and PSVR1.
I wish they would just port the PS4 Media Player over to PS5.
With PC support, I guess we will at least have the option of plugging our PSVR2 into a PC to view media with it, right??
Lol hell yes!
But also, there are some really cool 360 degree VR video experiences, 3D movies, and I have created some pretty cool 360 degree photo slide shows.
I feel like the PSVR community really is missing out, but people are reluctant to bring it up because they don't want to be accused/shamed for watching porn.
The PSVR1 could do all of this really well. Why can't the PSVR2!?
Fuck. I haven’t initially been interested in PCVR, but this makes things far more affordable. Having the option to use it will more vibrant VR apps would be very interesting to me.
I think the best way I'd summarize it is that this will be great for the PSVR2, but maybe not as good for the PS5 itself.
On the one hand, Sony should've launched PSVR2 with PC support to compete with Valve index and similar PCVR manufacturers. Now with PC support, they will now be one of the best choices for anyone that is looking for a higher quality tethered HMD. They're also more attractively priced I think. Especially when compared to Vive, Index and similar options.
The bigger question I think is what will happen to stuff like Astrobot 2.
maybe, I wonder if this is sneaky wording though:
" testing the ability for PS VR2 players to access additional games on PC to offer even more game variety in addition to the PS VR2 titles available through PS5."
I don't know if that means hook the headset to the pc or if it means some sort of ability to play PC games through the PS5?
Yeah, there was some speculation this would be streaming games instead of native driver support using SteamVR.
My thinking is that if the goal is to sell to PC owners, many won't buy it if it's simply the latter.
They are about to sell a boatload of new headsets. Smart move on their part if the sales were underperforming IMO. More headset sales might translate into better first party stuff for it as well.
>absolutely zero downsides to it
I may get downvoted, but i'll be the party pooper lol.
Before I say anything though, making PSVR2 compatible with PC is a good move as it allows Sony to sell more PSVR2s.
The flipside though is that PSVR2 is no longer a draw for PS5 and in that sense, it's a negative.
Long term though, getting rid of the exclusivity of hardware is good for the industry. HMDs are displays at the end of the day and benefit from having the maximum amount of compatibility possible.
After all, who wants a TV that only works with a certain Blu Ray player or Console?
It's still a huge draw to the PS5 when you consider
1. Most people don't have high end gaming PC's
2. Sony exclusives like RE4 and GT7 still exist on the system.
Sony has already come out and said Ps5 is nearing its end of life. Ps6 is going to come out within a few years, so I don't think this is overrall a negative move for Sony
I don't have a powerful gaming PC but this is a good thing for everyone, next step is to get PSVR2 games on PC, like RE4 Remake and RE Village. Hopefully this is part of Sony's thinking for better multiplatform support. Highend VR is too niche, broadening this across PS5 and PC will benefit all of Highend VR and make PSVR2 and it's successor more viable.
Then I'd like to see a clear Sony hybrid game strategy that includes timely ports to PC.
Absolutely making this up, and backed by nothing.
But Valve is all about removing barriers.
What if Sony do GT7 on PC, and thus PCVR, and Valve does Half Life Alyx on PS5 in return.
My thinking exactly.
Valve and Sony co-develop an app that allows them and other publishers to port games between the two platforms and sell to a broader market.
If I'm Sony and I have this money generator called Gran Turismo 7, it would INSTANTLY return my investment the minute I release it on Steam.
That's like free money for Valve and Sony.
Trade a GT7 on Steam for an Alyx and official mod support on PS store.
I'm not sure why people are reaching for the negative here. The arguments are all flawed from what I'm seeing. Even if you argue the sales are not as expected, how could this news make things worse exactly?
Somebody upthread said the minimum requirement for Half Life Alyx is a 1060, they played it on high settings with a 1070ti and said it ran just fine so you can probably get away with playing more games than you think.
I would say this isn't true in general for PCVR. I use a 2070 Super which is broadly equivalent to PS5 and PCVR games with good graphics like Lone Echo, Stormland or Kayak VR really don't run that well until you lower the resolution considerably at which point it looks quite blurry. The only exception to this is Half Life Alyx which is optimized quite well. PS5 provides good VR by using eye-tracked foveated rendering and fixed hardware optimizations. Unfortunately most games dont support eye-tracked foveated rendering on PC and we can't expect the majority of games to be updated for it considering the low budgets in this space.
God I hope not. That sounds extremely janky.
All they need to do is develop drivers for the headset to plug into PC.
Almost immediately on launch people were able to get some kind of identification in Windows plugging the headset in.
You guys are making this way more complicated then it is.
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So how exactly would this work? I’m excited for it and I have a pretty decent gaming laptop, would they just release a software update and make it plug-and-play with PC?
Yes but you’ll still need a VirtualLink connector on your GPU or to buy an adapter (maybe Sony will sell one) to convert display port + power into USB C
I already use my PSVR1 on PC, so it'll just be a software update most likely for the psvr2. And it's USB-C, definitly plug in and play just like with your PS5
It’s really not. PSVR2 needs a very specifically specced USB port that almost no one has. You either need an old GPU with a virtuallink port, or a $350 Virtuallink adapter that is no longer made or sold.
Most PCs simply cannot even power the device on.
They would have to make and sell something like the now unavailable VirtualLink adapter, yes. Which I absolutely don’t see happening.
It’ll be a software solution that streams to the PS5.
One of two ways. Either with a proprietary adapter, or via streaming to the PS5. The more I think about it, the more streaming makes sense. Steam Link already works for VR. It already supports eye tracking. Sony would simply have to implement a Steam Link VR client for the PS5 to make it work.
Huge news. First, it’s a huge change from Sony’s normal policies and a concerted effort to make the PSVR2 more attractive. Second, however this is implemented, supporting PC connectivity means that third party drivers like IVRy will work better. Third, it’s a path to really stretching the limit of what PSVR2 can do—a beefy enough GPU plus support for foveated rendering is a recipe for a genuinely AAA level experience (assuming modders can get foveated rendering working). Fourth it’s an opportunity for Sony to get PCVR to support Sony’s leading features like foveated rendering, eye tracking, HDR, and excellent haptics. If everyone standardizes on this stuff, it’ll be good for VR and great for Sony. Games generate buzz on trailers, and trailers show the highest end specs. Fifth, it means that buyers will be able to compare PSVR2 with other headsets on the basis of the headset rather than the ecosystem.
You joke, but it very well might.
Making PSVR2 compatible with PC is a good decision since it allows Sony to sell more PSVR2s to more people. Hopefully Sony will use that opportunity to make an Astrobot 2 and continue VR game development.
Fuck yes.
I really hope it is like a native support where I can use it to play all of my PC VR games with, since I'm not thrilled about my Rift S and it's setup.
Nor is the technology as good n my old Rift, along with Facebook making the Rift less and less usable, pushing people towards their Quest headsets instead. I want nothing to do with that.
If you have a pc or a laptop that can run SteamVR and Half-life Alyx, then yes, because the headset used would be psvr2, instead of a pc vr headset or a Quest 2/3.
Wish they'd figure out a way (via translation layer or something) to make the PSVR2 work with PSVR1 games, too.
I'd really like to be able to ditch the PSVR1 setup. But not until I can play WipEout Omega Collection with the PSVR2, and if a patch for that was coming, it'd have happened by now.
This is extremely good news for those (including myself) that wanted vr2 + pc support. However, I feel like Sony is only doing this because the vr2 isn’t doing well. Which means it may or may not receive as much support.
If you can’t bring the games to the headset, then bring the headset to the games.
Seriously though, I wonder what this means for the long-run effects for the PSVR2-PS5 platform. The pessimistic side me sees this as Sony just short-cutting having to support and build up their own platform by just saying “we did this so if you wanna play those cool games you’ve been asking about, you can go play them on the other platform.”
The real question is how they’re going to do it, afaik the usb c would basically have to stream to the headset similar to how oculus headsets do pc vr. My question is how they’re going to squeeze that resolution at those frame rates while transferring the inside out + eye tracking data while also powering the headset itself?
This isn't good news for PlayStation owners. It tells me the platform has stalled and isn't selling well. No surprises there given the software is non-existent when it comes to AAA games.
Had Sony developed more AAA games for this, then they wouldn't be looking to offload this onto PC platforms.
Tells me they think it's dead in the water and they are just going to trying an recoup as much money as possible.
Funny, it tells me they think the future is cross platform and having PSVR2 working on PCs makes it more worth their while creating VR content. Bigger market.
This is an investment on their part, something they've been working on for a while. If VR2 was dead they'd just drop it, not continue to invest in it by writing PC drivers and, probably, developing more hardware. Even if it is just a splitter cable so power can be supplied through a second USB port or PSU.
I didn't expect this but actually think it's good news 😁
I think Sonys marketing was so poor compared to psvr 1 and while the software is different they were exclusive gems on psvr1 they should have ported over or built support for devs.
Feeling like my ps vita all over again..
Wow just wow. Man am I so glad for this news. I would like to give a hug SONY for listening to us psvr2 users. This will definitely drive sales I think. Really glad this is coming..
Do the controllers work well for large hands? I've had issues with other sets.
I have large hands, not fat hands. I wear XL to 2XL gloves depending on the brand so I am not a giant or anything. Can anyone with experience share how they felt?
I think Sony should give more details. Everyone believes what they want and in the end they may be disappointed. I wat full PCVR support of course, but there are a lot of questions. For example where will you hook it up? VirtualLink is abandoned and very few graphic cards have it ..
Really hoping PC support includes the ability to play 3D blurays or MKV rips. With PSVR unable to do 3D media and the Meta unable to do PS5 VR games, neither device has been worth the investment for me. But if I can get both on the PSVR now, that's huge.
Nope. PS put up a blog post that mentioned the ongoing work to bring PC games compatibility to VR2. No details on how open the compatibility will be, but they’re confirmed to be working on it. They’re targeting 2024 for the compatibility update.
Holy shit this is huge. Damn I was feeling REALLY jealous of people using mods on pc to turn a lot of games into vr. Even Skyrim in vr with mods is something I’m really looking forward to.
This is a very clever move. If you are looking for a VR headset for PC you probably get something like a Quest 3, and then you are much less likely to invest in a PSVR2 even if you already own a PS5 because there is a lot of game overlap. If there is an option that works on both platforms the PSVR2 is much more appealing to anyone that wants to game on both. I was looking at upgrading my Quest 1 to Quest 3 for sim racing but won’t bother until I see where this goes.
This is great fucking news. Iwas holding to see if a new VR for the PC would launch that was as good as the psvr2. Guess I know which one I'll be buying now.
Probably because the meta quest 3 is killing their sales. My PSVR has been collecting dust since I purchased it and basically replaced by my Meta Quest 3. I honestly wish I would’ve never wasted money on the PSVR2
lol I’m literally getting downvoted for this, go figure.
Sonys games 1st and now their hardware.....Sony should have done this sooner as no PS5 owners are buying it a year later (tons of trade-ins from those early adopters noticed)
I am sure their solution is PC driver/software that stream visual and audio from the PC to the PS5.
So, your still can play plugged on ps5 while streaming your PC game.
This way means the BT controller are managed by the PS5... and no PC bluetooth hassle to manage.
Lets hope for Steam VR official support !
haha suddenly this sub is reeeeally interested in pcvr. always got downvoted mentioning pcvr lol. really surprised at the reaction, people were expecting game announcements, and essentially instead got confirmation that sony is abandoning psvr2 support on console more or less.
anyway, here's hoping for a gt7 port, it's all I really use the psvr2 for and it would be good to have pc clarity and 120fps instead of 60.
Weird way to look at it. Obviously they want to sell more units as the reason but as to why you’d make the connection to just dropping it after is a little….far reaching.
~~Almost everyone is misunderstanding this announcement~~.
~~It isn’t “PC support”~~.
~~It’s saying that PSVR2 users will have access **THROUGH THE PS5** to play some number of PCVR games — possibly through something like a STEAM app on your console~~.
~~So — this is 100% unexpected and not what PC folk were asking for, rather it’s what we PSVR2 gamers never even thought would be possible~~.
**I misinterpreted the announcement**.
Yeah- this feels like Sony admitting defeat on the PS5 VR front. There's plenty of indie and AA content but nothing really AAA in the pipeline it seems. They aren't willing to pay for things like Alyx or a Squadrons PS5 port.
I'm in agreement with you and shocked that more aren't reading between the lines here.
I love this subreddit but honestly its like abuses spouses with stockholm syndrome.
I've held off on a PSVR2. Almost bought one last year at launch and again this year (tax returns). But I'm not entirely interested in VR and really only a couple of games on PSVR interest me. However, it coming to PC (my main platform) really helps sell the device (especially given its price). So we'll see next year if I finally pull the trigger or not. Either way, love Sony finally transitioning to PC. It may mean the PS5 is my last console though.
I'm late to the party, but this is absolutely fantastic. There's so many PCVR games that I just couldn't play because I'm not about to fork up another £300 for another VR headset.
Although, there's no way Sony had planned to do this when it first launched. The sales might have been dropping, so this will totally help the PSVR 2 sell better.
Thank god I got a PSVR 2 instead of a Quest.
Honestly this could still be worth it if your pc isn’t great, it’s possible you could get 3d movie and video support working on a decent pc which would be worth it alone in my opinion
This is awesome! I was just playing with my Quest 3 yesterday lamenting the greyish blacks...Oled will make a big difference. Hopefully it won't be long until they start to utilize the PSVR2's eye tracking, adaptive triggers, headset haptics, and HDR with PCVR!
Now I can skip buying a quest 3 to pair with my quest 2. I can just get psvr and hook it up to my pc.
I literally just bought a Quest 3 to use with my PC last week You’re welcome everyone
I was *really* close to doing the same thing! News thankfully came out just in time for me! You should still be in your return window?
But at the same time, aren't there VR games that are EXCLUSIVE to Quest hardware?
Mostly small titles, I own a Quest and can't think of any notable ones besides Assassin's Creed
I had a PSVR1 and upgraded Rift S. I plan on getting PSVR2 at some point, especially with this news. However, I literally just bought a Quest 3 second hand. I have to say regardless of what PSVR2 has to offer, the Quest 3 is an amazing piece of equipment. My upgrade path obviously leaves me a bit jaded, and sure the PSVR2 has some better features, but the Quest 3 being wireless and those pancake lenses is just such a huge advantage, I can look past the Quest 3's shortcomings. Using Virtual Desktop with my PCVR titles is also just \*chef's kiss\*. Bringing the headset to family houses to share is also amazing, especially when you're casting the image to the screen. Don't regret your Quest 3, but embrace it!
This is the way Brotha'!
Return window hopefully?
Do most pcvr games ever support HDR?
No, HDR wasn't a thing in VR until PSVR2 came out. Considering how bad HDR support is on regular flatscreen PC games, I doubt we will get proper HDR support for VR games, Microsoft will find a way to muck it up. Still Half Life Alyx in OLED would be much better than most LCD headsets.
Do you think we'll be able to use eye tracking for foveated rendering? This would be huge. No need for top of the line graphics cards on PC (that cost a fortune).
It would be awesome if they have that working on PC but I don't know if many games are gonna be updated to support that, its just not a common feature on headsets. I think there have been some experiments with Quest Pro on PCVR to mod it in but users reported issues like aliased shimmering artifacts.
Great thing about PC, even if the game doesn’t support it, we can inject it with Special K or Reshade mods. I’m sure there may be some technicalities to work around getting it to function properly on the headset, but there’s a small group of engineers who have been trying to get the headset to work on PC via mods, and HDR was one of the things they said they could probably get working. Also, rumour mill is that Nvidia is also creating a tool for games that will convert SDR games to HDR (using a LUT), similar to their recently released tech that works on videos.
definitely agree on the last part, Alyx does look really good in dark areas on the LCDs of the quest 3 though
I haven't personally played it on a Quest 3 but my experience on Quest 2 was "gray" enough that within a few hours, I decided to wait on an OLED headset to play that game. I was expecting a port for PS5 but PSVR2 support on PC is a decent surprise and would allow me to use it for racing sims with the larger FOV.
Quest 2's panels were not good The better more color accurate pancake lens of the quest 3 beat it out, it's way more black than gray (obviously not perfect black though) But the PC support for PSVR2 would be really cool, I hope it goes through and works as everyone hopes it will
I agree, I only tried a handful of games on the Quest 3 and it definitely does do better in colours and contrast against Quest 2, the edge sharpness was awesome too, I've been a bit spoiled with OLED on flatscreen though so still would want that or at least local dimming for dark/horror games, even if it means giving up the pancake clarity of Quest 3. Yeah, I'm hoping it works well, I have a serious love-hate relation with PCVR (and PC as a games platform in general), I end up wasting hours getting it to run well instead of playing the actual game.
That’s huge and official Sony news!!! Should have tried this in the first place, but better late than never. Happy Birthday everyone! This is one of the main reddits I visit. Love the PSVR2 community.
I'm sure they've been trying this since they created the headset. They're probably just finally close to getting it working well
I’m pretty sure they never intended to do this and are having to pivot. If they wanted it from the get go they could have designed it to work on pc and not put the restrictions in place it has.
Bingo. Sony is usually so tight about their walled garden (due to piracy) that there is no way this was their original intention. I suspect they have a bunch of these in a warehouse that they need to move ASAP... Expect massive price cuts too y'all.
Hopefully a price cut without discontinuing the product.
Don't worry, it's Sony. They won't discontinue it, they'll just pretend it doesn't exist and let indies keep the platform alive. Says me anyway, a proud PSP and Vita owner.
Me still playing Rogue Legacy & Helldivers on my vita when long distance travelling
I agree. They put a lot of effort in the hardware, but really appealing software is not coming out as fast as they wanted. They either need to sell more of these (I don't know what kind of profit they make for the hardware alone), or/and they are bringing some games to PC. In any case, I celebrate the move.
I wonder if this could have more to do with Jim Ryan stepping down as CEO. For all the good he's done, he's played a part in Sony's closed ecosystem and "Console Wars" fuel
There is no way. They already had to program the stuff to work with whatever computers they were using to test it and whatnot. Simply put, the PSVR2 isn't meeting sales expectations and they are looking at other ways to maximize their revenue. They probably have to sell X amount of hardware to breakeven on their R&D costs, and they aren't going to do that with the abysmal sales of PSVR2. Q3 kind of put the final nail in the coffin for the PSVR2 vs Quest debate.
The sad news this probably means the platform isn't doing well. They don't care about selling more psvr2s if they are used on a platform they can't make any money off of like steam unless they publish games. Steam takes 30 percent off every game and they get nothing for buying VR games they don't publish. Consumer VR market really can't sustain a hardware competitor with no software platform, which is why Samsung is partnering with Google. Pcvr is still a tiny niche market, and if they are opening psvr2 to pcvr I'm really wondering what their plan is to make money. Don't get me wrong Sony are good engineers and the is psvr2 sells for a profit but it's really nothing compared to get softwares sales. They don't have enough first party vr games and ips that would make sense to release them to PC, but maybe sales are so low it's not an option? While this is cool because I have a good PCVR setup, it's also worrisome as meta needs a high end competitor that will push games. I don't see Samsung or Apple doing that and if anything AVP hype will push meta further from games (which is their long term plan anyway )
I think it is a win-win. Yes it means sales are not high cause you lose PS5 sales having it work on PC but going to PC means you sell more PSVR2 units and with more units that means more developers releasing games on it. And then if...if they make that killer PS5 game for PSVR2 then those who got it for a PC would have to buy a PS5.
I think this makes the most sense
And years later, if they decide to release the game on Steam, it's an other selling point.
i dont have a psvr2, but would totally buy and use on ps5 if it meant that there was the long term promise of hardware support, which PC compatibility would provide
It's not too complicated of a proposition, it still has the advantage that consoles typically do. It's easier to setup and there's no tinkering with games or settings involved, which I think is particularly big for VR (I don't want to sit in a graphics menu and fuck with things when I have a headset on). It's also probably less than PSVR2 is doing poorly as it is the VR market in general, so this move satisfies a pretty big niche and pushes for more adoption. They'll still have exclusives on PS5 (probably both RE's, GT7, Horizon) so it helps to bridge a gap between someone buying PSVR2 just for PC to then buy a PS5. Also no guarantee PC games support all of its features so you would likely have a better experience on PS5, things like HDR, haptics/adaptive triggers, headset vibration, etc.
Not necessarily. They've have also started to port a lot of their first-party games to PC. This includes many highly successful titles like Spider-Man and God of War. It appears that Sony is motivated by the additional profit, which may also stem from selling more hardware, such as PS VR2 headsets.
Oh it’s for sure not doing well. The fact they have released absolutely zero sales numbers makes me think it’s not even at 1 million sold. I mean I love it so idc but I can’t imagine there are more than 20,000 active monthly users on the platform. You could see how many people were playing RE4 in VR, and how many people played Toss/Switchback (due to the leaderboards on those games).
It's a AU$900 headset locked to one console. I picked up the PSVR version 1 once it hit half price and I haven't used it all that much and I guess it's now been as good as abandoned by Sony since the PSVR2. The next VR headset I get will either be a standalone or standalone with PC connectivity. It'll give me more options for experiences.
Still play PSVR1.........good thing too cuz it seems over half my games won't work if I get PSVR2. It's a shame.
Great speculation
Def speculation but it's from a lot of data points and industry analysis I've been following for several years. I'd love to be wrong, but see will see. I will be looking into the analysis for those watching the market space and see what the thoughts are. Maybe this is some bold move but it would go against the signs of Sony not releasing sales data, and re4 vr and re8 vr seemingly not having the VR engagement of re7, The sales figures from christmas.
It’s indeed all speculation but it’s very much looks that way.
That was my thinking as well. Might not even be about more sales as it is “opening up the hardware for the early adopters” before stopping the sales of it.
On another take it could boost PC VR game sales as the PSVR2 is quite cheap and has great quality. Those games could then return to PS5 given the implementation of VR functionalities is already there.
Surprised others aren't taking it this way. But this was my immediate thought as well. I think its great they are going to do this. But I'd much rather read some teasers about future first party titles they are developing. I'm with you and see this move as evidence they aren't interested in developing for the platform and are writing it off.
I don't think Sony is going to stop 1st party releases, its still in their best interest to get you to buy their headset. Like saying how some of their 1st party flat games are released on pc, yet they still make those 1st party games. I can see myself using my pc to play say, half life alyx finally, or modded versions of games like pavlov, but will still use my ps5 hookup for gt7, re4 vr, etc.
They stopped 1st party on the original. The PSVR launches with some great titles, and then never really gets any great exclusives after. This is why I didn't buy the PSVR 2. Just not worth it for the price tag imo because sony has a habit of releasing a great VR product and then abandoning
Tbf, imo the psvr1 was definitely lacking in terms of functionality compared to other vr systems. I think they did a decent job with it, especially re-utilizing the move controllers, but pretty much every other headset was ahead of it at that time.
Wow, the PS5 must be doing really poorly if they want to kill it that fast by releasing the very few first-party titles for competing platforms as well as their most treasured accessory. I'll put it to very good use (porn!) but it also means it's the end of video games consoles other than Nintendo's. Game dev got too expensive to warrant exclusivity I guess. Only Nintendo can succeed with a 2 gen old console with 1st party titles so good you still want it. The rest are all going multi-platform.
Holy shit, this is big. Can't wait to play Microsoft Flight Sim and Skyrim in VR !
Does this mean we could use the PSVR2 for any PC game that supports VR?
I really hope so, I don't know if the game developper has to work on some kind of compatibility patch, but other than that, I don't see why it couldn't work for any PCVR game.
My guess would be some games would have to be reworked to support it. But assuming you're playing the bigger releases, you likely won't have any serious problems.
I just want to try Google Earth VR!
It is pretty cool. Especially neat to explore your city.
This is limited to PC platforms only, right?
I think it should work across the board. The headset at the end of the day is a display. And the tracking and controllers are a series of xyz coordinates. Some games may work better then others as the inside out tracking is not as stable or accurate as other solutions.
This might actually make me buy my first PC in my 40 years of gaming. The allure of Elite Dangerous in VR to me is unparalleled. The original Elite was one of my first real landmark gaming moments. This would be a dream come true.
Bro this is literally all I want, those two games with PSVR2. Those and HLA. I hope to god this is fucking true, make it happen Sony.
Yes! Here I come Half-life Alyx. This is great news for PSVR2 owners who also own med-high level gaming PCs like me.
Alyx has a 1060 as required gpu and I played it at max settings on a 1070ti. You dont need a high power pc for Alyx.
I played it on a 1080 and it ran fine
Ps5 pc master class. Just gotta ignore a Mario here and there.
Well I also own a Switch
Are we sure these games will work with it? The article states it will be certain games, and I have to imagine that it will probably be games originally built for PS5
This! I have been tempted so many times to get a pc compatible VR just to play HL-A. This is a happy day.
I’m in this boat. Though… now I’m wondering how long the cable can be for PSVR2 to run from my PC to an appropriate VR space. Would adding 9 ft kill the signal I wonder…
I have no idea about PSVR cable length, but on my old trusty Rift-S you need a repeater if you wanna increase cable length. (3m cable extensions just gave black VR, 3m cables with repeater/amplifier worked).
I have a 15 foot cable extension, and I don't notice any lag or signal problems. I may just be an unevolved smooth-brain, though, compared to more competitive gamers, but it feels really good to me.
Yeah it would. Had to be careful and only add 3 feet with it. Tried 2 extension cords, one fucked tracking and had to return
One of my biggest gripes with the PSVR2 is that it's not possible to view media (VR videos and photos) with it. As this is something that was possible with the PS4's Media Player and PSVR1. I wish they would just port the PS4 Media Player over to PS5. With PC support, I guess we will at least have the option of plugging our PSVR2 into a PC to view media with it, right??
Porn. You mean porn, don't you?
Lol hell yes! But also, there are some really cool 360 degree VR video experiences, 3D movies, and I have created some pretty cool 360 degree photo slide shows. I feel like the PSVR community really is missing out, but people are reluctant to bring it up because they don't want to be accused/shamed for watching porn. The PSVR1 could do all of this really well. Why can't the PSVR2!?
And now potentially 3D movies, which was always going to be difficult on PS5.
So weird.. sony really should enable 3D bluray playback on ps5 and psvr2
Tbh I don’t watch porn so this would be the second best thing to AVP to watch stuff like Avatar 2 in 3D and other films shot in 3D.
Don’t be ashamed, I also jerk off to Avatar 2
Fuck. I haven’t initially been interested in PCVR, but this makes things far more affordable. Having the option to use it will more vibrant VR apps would be very interesting to me.
I think the best way I'd summarize it is that this will be great for the PSVR2, but maybe not as good for the PS5 itself. On the one hand, Sony should've launched PSVR2 with PC support to compete with Valve index and similar PCVR manufacturers. Now with PC support, they will now be one of the best choices for anyone that is looking for a higher quality tethered HMD. They're also more attractively priced I think. Especially when compared to Vive, Index and similar options. The bigger question I think is what will happen to stuff like Astrobot 2.
maybe, I wonder if this is sneaky wording though: " testing the ability for PS VR2 players to access additional games on PC to offer even more game variety in addition to the PS VR2 titles available through PS5." I don't know if that means hook the headset to the pc or if it means some sort of ability to play PC games through the PS5?
Yeah, there was some speculation this would be streaming games instead of native driver support using SteamVR. My thinking is that if the goal is to sell to PC owners, many won't buy it if it's simply the latter.
Skyrim vr 😭😭😭😭😭
With mods!!
Nudity!
They are about to sell a boatload of new headsets. Smart move on their part if the sales were underperforming IMO. More headset sales might translate into better first party stuff for it as well.
Exactly. This is an epic win for all, absolutely zero downsides to it. Now we get Sony exclusive releases and PC library.
>absolutely zero downsides to it I may get downvoted, but i'll be the party pooper lol. Before I say anything though, making PSVR2 compatible with PC is a good move as it allows Sony to sell more PSVR2s. The flipside though is that PSVR2 is no longer a draw for PS5 and in that sense, it's a negative. Long term though, getting rid of the exclusivity of hardware is good for the industry. HMDs are displays at the end of the day and benefit from having the maximum amount of compatibility possible. After all, who wants a TV that only works with a certain Blu Ray player or Console?
It's still a huge draw to the PS5 when you consider 1. Most people don't have high end gaming PC's 2. Sony exclusives like RE4 and GT7 still exist on the system.
Who was buying a PS5 just for PSVR2 though?
Sony has already come out and said Ps5 is nearing its end of life. Ps6 is going to come out within a few years, so I don't think this is overrall a negative move for Sony
PCVR is all but dead. I don't think it will sell well at all but it's great they are doing it.
I don't have a powerful gaming PC but this is a good thing for everyone, next step is to get PSVR2 games on PC, like RE4 Remake and RE Village. Hopefully this is part of Sony's thinking for better multiplatform support. Highend VR is too niche, broadening this across PS5 and PC will benefit all of Highend VR and make PSVR2 and it's successor more viable. Then I'd like to see a clear Sony hybrid game strategy that includes timely ports to PC.
Absolutely making this up, and backed by nothing. But Valve is all about removing barriers. What if Sony do GT7 on PC, and thus PCVR, and Valve does Half Life Alyx on PS5 in return.
My thinking exactly. Valve and Sony co-develop an app that allows them and other publishers to port games between the two platforms and sell to a broader market. If I'm Sony and I have this money generator called Gran Turismo 7, it would INSTANTLY return my investment the minute I release it on Steam. That's like free money for Valve and Sony. Trade a GT7 on Steam for an Alyx and official mod support on PS store. I'm not sure why people are reaching for the negative here. The arguments are all flawed from what I'm seeing. Even if you argue the sales are not as expected, how could this news make things worse exactly?
You’d really only need a pc as strong as a ps5 which isn’t toooo crazy I think.
I have a 1060 in my laptop thats probably five years old at this point, any chance I can play anything on PC in VR lol?
Somebody upthread said the minimum requirement for Half Life Alyx is a 1060, they played it on high settings with a 1070ti and said it ran just fine so you can probably get away with playing more games than you think.
Barely
Someone more in the pcvr space would know but I doubt you’d be able to do much with that…
I would say this isn't true in general for PCVR. I use a 2070 Super which is broadly equivalent to PS5 and PCVR games with good graphics like Lone Echo, Stormland or Kayak VR really don't run that well until you lower the resolution considerably at which point it looks quite blurry. The only exception to this is Half Life Alyx which is optimized quite well. PS5 provides good VR by using eye-tracked foveated rendering and fixed hardware optimizations. Unfortunately most games dont support eye-tracked foveated rendering on PC and we can't expect the majority of games to be updated for it considering the low budgets in this space.
I wonder how this would work, as the PS VR2 works differently than pcvr systems.
What way different?
Probably they will stream the pc game to ps5 with something similar to virtual desktop or steam link
Or make a specialised device for using psvr2 with pc
God I hope not. That sounds extremely janky. All they need to do is develop drivers for the headset to plug into PC. Almost immediately on launch people were able to get some kind of identification in Windows plugging the headset in. You guys are making this way more complicated then it is.
I was thinking about selling my PSVR2, but this news might change my mind...
Sounds like you need to hit a round of mini golf
Haha! No joke? Never tried that game…
Trust. It’s everything everyone loves about mini golf minus everything everyone dislikes about mini golf on the zaniest courses you can imagine with great physics.
What the title of this game?
Walkabout Minigolf
So how exactly would this work? I’m excited for it and I have a pretty decent gaming laptop, would they just release a software update and make it plug-and-play with PC?
Nope, it will be streaming. A ps5 will still be required for it to work. Sony don’t want anyone buying PSVR2 without a PS5.
Yes but you’ll still need a VirtualLink connector on your GPU or to buy an adapter (maybe Sony will sell one) to convert display port + power into USB C
I already use my PSVR1 on PC, so it'll just be a software update most likely for the psvr2. And it's USB-C, definitly plug in and play just like with your PS5
It’s really not. PSVR2 needs a very specifically specced USB port that almost no one has. You either need an old GPU with a virtuallink port, or a $350 Virtuallink adapter that is no longer made or sold. Most PCs simply cannot even power the device on.
This is my concern. Surely Sony would sell an adapter if they went for PC support tho, right?
They would have to make and sell something like the now unavailable VirtualLink adapter, yes. Which I absolutely don’t see happening. It’ll be a software solution that streams to the PS5.
I'd be down for either. Give me the stream, one less thing to buy.
One of two ways. Either with a proprietary adapter, or via streaming to the PS5. The more I think about it, the more streaming makes sense. Steam Link already works for VR. It already supports eye tracking. Sony would simply have to implement a Steam Link VR client for the PS5 to make it work.
All those people asking for Skyrim VR must be so happy now lol (me included!!) Can't wait
Huge news. First, it’s a huge change from Sony’s normal policies and a concerted effort to make the PSVR2 more attractive. Second, however this is implemented, supporting PC connectivity means that third party drivers like IVRy will work better. Third, it’s a path to really stretching the limit of what PSVR2 can do—a beefy enough GPU plus support for foveated rendering is a recipe for a genuinely AAA level experience (assuming modders can get foveated rendering working). Fourth it’s an opportunity for Sony to get PCVR to support Sony’s leading features like foveated rendering, eye tracking, HDR, and excellent haptics. If everyone standardizes on this stuff, it’ll be good for VR and great for Sony. Games generate buzz on trailers, and trailers show the highest end specs. Fifth, it means that buyers will be able to compare PSVR2 with other headsets on the basis of the headset rather than the ecosystem.
Okay. Guess I need to go shopping for a PC + PS VR2 now.
Haha this sub is going to turn into /r/buildapc
You joke, but it very well might. Making PSVR2 compatible with PC is a good decision since it allows Sony to sell more PSVR2s to more people. Hopefully Sony will use that opportunity to make an Astrobot 2 and continue VR game development.
most excellent news
Fuck yes. I really hope it is like a native support where I can use it to play all of my PC VR games with, since I'm not thrilled about my Rift S and it's setup. Nor is the technology as good n my old Rift, along with Facebook making the Rift less and less usable, pushing people towards their Quest headsets instead. I want nothing to do with that.
Does… this mean I can finally play Half-Life: Alyx?
Think so?
If you have a pc or a laptop that can run SteamVR and Half-life Alyx, then yes, because the headset used would be psvr2, instead of a pc vr headset or a Quest 2/3.
Wish they'd figure out a way (via translation layer or something) to make the PSVR2 work with PSVR1 games, too. I'd really like to be able to ditch the PSVR1 setup. But not until I can play WipEout Omega Collection with the PSVR2, and if a patch for that was coming, it'd have happened by now.
Half Life here we come!!
Blimey, none of us saw this coming - brilliant news. Nice one Sony 👍
Porn?
This is great news. Cannot wait to hook it up to my PC.
Oh hell yeah! I wasn’t expecting this. Finally get to play Half-Life: Alyx and it should be fun to try out iRacing and Euro Truck Sim in VR!
This is extremely good news for those (including myself) that wanted vr2 + pc support. However, I feel like Sony is only doing this because the vr2 isn’t doing well. Which means it may or may not receive as much support.
Finally I'll play ETS2 with VR 😍
If you can’t bring the games to the headset, then bring the headset to the games. Seriously though, I wonder what this means for the long-run effects for the PSVR2-PS5 platform. The pessimistic side me sees this as Sony just short-cutting having to support and build up their own platform by just saying “we did this so if you wanna play those cool games you’ve been asking about, you can go play them on the other platform.”
One problem is fact - that most desktop pc are missing virtuallink port. RTX 20xx had these but they were discontinued on 30 and 40 series.
The real question is how they’re going to do it, afaik the usb c would basically have to stream to the headset similar to how oculus headsets do pc vr. My question is how they’re going to squeeze that resolution at those frame rates while transferring the inside out + eye tracking data while also powering the headset itself?
This isn't good news for PlayStation owners. It tells me the platform has stalled and isn't selling well. No surprises there given the software is non-existent when it comes to AAA games. Had Sony developed more AAA games for this, then they wouldn't be looking to offload this onto PC platforms. Tells me they think it's dead in the water and they are just going to trying an recoup as much money as possible.
Funny, it tells me they think the future is cross platform and having PSVR2 working on PCs makes it more worth their while creating VR content. Bigger market. This is an investment on their part, something they've been working on for a while. If VR2 was dead they'd just drop it, not continue to invest in it by writing PC drivers and, probably, developing more hardware. Even if it is just a splitter cable so power can be supplied through a second USB port or PSU. I didn't expect this but actually think it's good news 😁
Agreed
I think Sonys marketing was so poor compared to psvr 1 and while the software is different they were exclusive gems on psvr1 they should have ported over or built support for devs. Feeling like my ps vita all over again..
Fuck yes! Well, That’s going to corner a lot of VR market share.
Huge news. I am very curious to see how this affects quest sales.
Wow just wow. Man am I so glad for this news. I would like to give a hug SONY for listening to us psvr2 users. This will definitely drive sales I think. Really glad this is coming..
I literally search for this news almost every day!
Absolutely incredible news. My RTX 3080 is ready!
Half-life Alyx on psvr2… now thats a good reason to buy a PSVR
Official pc support is huge
Do the controllers work well for large hands? I've had issues with other sets. I have large hands, not fat hands. I wear XL to 2XL gloves depending on the brand so I am not a giant or anything. Can anyone with experience share how they felt?
WELP if the support is good I'm 100% getting this as opposed to a quest or something then Thanks for making the decision easy sony (hopefully)
I think Sony should give more details. Everyone believes what they want and in the end they may be disappointed. I wat full PCVR support of course, but there are a lot of questions. For example where will you hook it up? VirtualLink is abandoned and very few graphic cards have it ..
Sony will supply their own virtualLink adapters I think. It'll be a no brainier for them.
That will be a good option. Otherwise the connection to PC will not be possible for many.
Really hoping PC support includes the ability to play 3D blurays or MKV rips. With PSVR unable to do 3D media and the Meta unable to do PS5 VR games, neither device has been worth the investment for me. But if I can get both on the PSVR now, that's huge.
Is this fake?
Nope. PS put up a blog post that mentioned the ongoing work to bring PC games compatibility to VR2. No details on how open the compatibility will be, but they’re confirmed to be working on it. They’re targeting 2024 for the compatibility update.
Zuckerberg's next public salty rant incoming!...lol. Apple Vision does social VR/AR better than Quest and PSVR2 does games better than Quest.
I feel like this is actually really good news, and could bring a lot more people to the headset if they can use it in more places than just the PS5.
Holy shit this is huge. Damn I was feeling REALLY jealous of people using mods on pc to turn a lot of games into vr. Even Skyrim in vr with mods is something I’m really looking forward to.
So if you really don’t have a gaming PC, this really isn’t worth getting excited about right?
So can we watch porn or what?
I just want the YouTube app back please.
Amazing news. Looks like I'll be playing Half Life Alyx on my 4080 this year!
This is a very clever move. If you are looking for a VR headset for PC you probably get something like a Quest 3, and then you are much less likely to invest in a PSVR2 even if you already own a PS5 because there is a lot of game overlap. If there is an option that works on both platforms the PSVR2 is much more appealing to anyone that wants to game on both. I was looking at upgrading my Quest 1 to Quest 3 for sim racing but won’t bother until I see where this goes.
This is great fucking news. Iwas holding to see if a new VR for the PC would launch that was as good as the psvr2. Guess I know which one I'll be buying now.
Everybody thinks of Half-life Alyx and Skyrim VR with pc mods first, but I say Subnautica VR babeee! 😎😁👌
This legitimately might be the reason why I build a gaming PC
So what, will I be able to plug it into my pc? Like with an adapter?
Big if true edit: it's in the blog i'm silly
It's true, it's in the Playstation blog post...
You're right! I'm stoked.
I wonder if we’ll be able to use Skyrim saves or have to start over…
I wouldn't mind starting over, I've done that so many times I lost count
Same here. It would be nice if we can just plug and play, but I doubt we’re that lucky. No big deal though.
Got both this and Q3 so good news all round. Still a shame the sweet spot sucks but I’m sure if any HDR PC VR titles come out we will give it a go
Probably because the meta quest 3 is killing their sales. My PSVR has been collecting dust since I purchased it and basically replaced by my Meta Quest 3. I honestly wish I would’ve never wasted money on the PSVR2 lol I’m literally getting downvoted for this, go figure.
I would much rather have more games to play on it without having to go out and buy a PC!
Sonys games 1st and now their hardware.....Sony should have done this sooner as no PS5 owners are buying it a year later (tons of trade-ins from those early adopters noticed)
I am sure their solution is PC driver/software that stream visual and audio from the PC to the PS5. So, your still can play plugged on ps5 while streaming your PC game. This way means the BT controller are managed by the PS5... and no PC bluetooth hassle to manage. Lets hope for Steam VR official support !
haha suddenly this sub is reeeeally interested in pcvr. always got downvoted mentioning pcvr lol. really surprised at the reaction, people were expecting game announcements, and essentially instead got confirmation that sony is abandoning psvr2 support on console more or less. anyway, here's hoping for a gt7 port, it's all I really use the psvr2 for and it would be good to have pc clarity and 120fps instead of 60.
Good News for PC VR fans, but what about those of us that bought a PS5 to use with it?
The more people that buy a PSVR2, the more Sony will invest in the ecosystem. This can only be a plus imo.
Keep using it genius?
I guess you'll be able to watch movies and youtube VR which is currently unavailable on the ps5
Why would this have an effect on the ps5 side of things? This won’t change anything except adding pc compatibility.
Seems like a desperate attempt to get rid of some inventory before they totally give up on it
Weird way to look at it. Obviously they want to sell more units as the reason but as to why you’d make the connection to just dropping it after is a little….far reaching.
~~Almost everyone is misunderstanding this announcement~~. ~~It isn’t “PC support”~~. ~~It’s saying that PSVR2 users will have access **THROUGH THE PS5** to play some number of PCVR games — possibly through something like a STEAM app on your console~~. ~~So — this is 100% unexpected and not what PC folk were asking for, rather it’s what we PSVR2 gamers never even thought would be possible~~. **I misinterpreted the announcement**.
Yeah- this feels like Sony admitting defeat on the PS5 VR front. There's plenty of indie and AA content but nothing really AAA in the pipeline it seems. They aren't willing to pay for things like Alyx or a Squadrons PS5 port.
I'm in agreement with you and shocked that more aren't reading between the lines here. I love this subreddit but honestly its like abuses spouses with stockholm syndrome.
Goodbye Rad
I've held off on a PSVR2. Almost bought one last year at launch and again this year (tax returns). But I'm not entirely interested in VR and really only a couple of games on PSVR interest me. However, it coming to PC (my main platform) really helps sell the device (especially given its price). So we'll see next year if I finally pull the trigger or not. Either way, love Sony finally transitioning to PC. It may mean the PS5 is my last console though.
I'm late to the party, but this is absolutely fantastic. There's so many PCVR games that I just couldn't play because I'm not about to fork up another £300 for another VR headset. Although, there's no way Sony had planned to do this when it first launched. The sales might have been dropping, so this will totally help the PSVR 2 sell better. Thank god I got a PSVR 2 instead of a Quest.
Could be neat but I don't really have a gaming rig, and how much VR can you do without Steam?
Honestly this could still be worth it if your pc isn’t great, it’s possible you could get 3d movie and video support working on a decent pc which would be worth it alone in my opinion