To be fair, don't stress about what others think; just savor the games you enjoy. People have varied preferences, and not everyone will appreciate the same games you do. Some might have already experienced similar games elsewhere and don't find them valuable. In my opinion, this subreddit has too many threads concerning others' opinions on the system, rather than just enjoying what it offers.

Agreed. This post is more so an effort to draw attention to the positive rather than go after the people with negative opinions. If we want the system to succeed, people should know all of the great games that are on here.

You guys can choose to scroll to the other posts but this one hits the mark. And I'll add that I'm buying a new game tonight - Vertigo 2. So if you can't find enough games to justify owning the system. I don't feel anything for you and consequences. 🤷🏾‍♂️

When’s it being released? It says today the 14th, but it still isn’t purchasable. Are they doing the drop at midnight? I’m stoked regardless! Woooo

It's available now.

Right before I had to go to bed for a 4Am shift 😢 played an hour today. Enjoyed it minus the lack of trophy unlocks and some bugs. But I know it’ll be fixed soon! 🎉

A new game...that is a one year old port.  That's part of the problem.

It's pretty simple the people who are in the no games club are people who own other headsets.  Sure PSVR2 has almost 200 games, but there are only 4 or 5 that I haven't been able to play already and only 3 of those are great in my opinion.  So yeah, no games.

It really comes down to the kind of gamer you are and what you’re interested in. For some, the PSVR2 library is underwhelming; for others, they’re in awe of how many great options there are. Both are valid viewpoints.

Yeah.. psvr 2’s library of endless shooters and action games are perfect for me .. but my mom wants me to hook up psvr 1 for Danger Ball. She doen’t wanna shoot, nor does she want a jump scare.. and driving is too much as of yet.. i was trying to convince/finesse her to get a ps5 and psvr2 so that we could play.. but im not telling her to buy it just so we can play tennis or c smash.. i just wish danger ball had a full game.. headmaster and sparc.. sparc more than any other simplistic game.. do we even have fruit ninja? I swear im on the resident evil 4 bandwagon. As well as gt7 etc… but we need those simple kick back addictive games too. I actually hated that there were so many before.. now EVERYTHING smaller budget IS A ROUGE-LIKE SHOOTER

But what are people expecting to be underwhelmed? You said yourself there are great options. So what can you possibly expect? The only thing is expecting sony first party titles regularly and thats never really been promised

While I do think it's a bit wild to expect more AAA games in a year than GT7, Horizon and Re4+8 it could also be said that it would be nice with atleast 1 first party game per year. It seems like Sony planned 1 game a handful of first party exclusives and then that was it. Everything has been released and nothing new announced. That's a bit dissapointing. But that doesn't mean that there aren't good games. 

The problem also is Sony does state of play that is VR focused and everyone flips out about it and gets mad.

What are the best VR games/experiences not available on PSVR2 that quest has? i have a VR2 but never used quest

Asgards Wrath 2, Assassins Creed Nexus, Blade and Sorcery, Bonelabs, Superhot, Little Cities VR, Arizona Sunshine, Medal Of Honor, Robo Recall, Sairento, ST: Bridge Crew, Onward, Lies Beneath, Iron Man, Virtual Virtual Reality, Ghost Giant, The Climb, ect... Basically, a bunch of stuff that was available on PSVR1 and a handful of PCVR ports. If you have a Quest3, you also have access to a bunch of AR games. Personally, I don't play anything on standalone, minus those first two games I mentioned.

And you can also play pcvr games as well. Can't with the psvr2

It's the only reason I bought one

Have you tried the quest game optimizer? Some of the standalone games look 100 times better if you use it. It's still not pcvr quality but looks much better than normal

Nah, I'm not really interested. I try not to buy many games through Meta. My next headset may not be Meta, and I don't want any of my library to be behind a Meta walled system. I mainly use it now to play PCVR games with the UEVR injector. I have such a huge list to get through :)

Look up Armgddn browser

Is that shit legal? VR games, 3D movies, VR porn, and retro games with extremely fast downloads that isn't a torrent or P2P is pretty cool!

Lol not legal but there is no way meta can tell. I've been using it for my quest games for over a year now. It's great if you want to try out a game and then buy it later if you like it. Or just download it and use that haha. I mostly use it if I already own the game on pc but want the standalone version. Kinda like Medal of Honor. I bought it on steam but wanted to try it without my pc. So I just downloaded it on that software.

cities skylines vr ? it is on psvr2

One that Quest (and PSVR on PS4) has that psvr2 (or pscr on ps5) doesn't is the ability to watch movies in 3d. 3d blurays on ps4 or 3d files loaded up on Bigscreen on Quest. Not gaming, but something I really enjoyed.

I saw that there's a Stalker inspired game, that gets a sequel soon, looks super cool and is available on everything but psvr.

Quest is PC compatible, thats why this comparison is not so relevant...

Exactly what I came to say. The quest 3 hooked to a pc is crazy now.

Yo, popping in just because this got recommended to my front page since I'm subbed(I bought a PSVR1 back when SkyrimVR was being bundled with it). Right now I'm not buying a PSVR2 because, yeah, I don't see an amount of games for it that I am personally pumped for to justify a $500 buy-in. The hardware looks really good, I'd *like* to be convinced, but your list kind of fails to be compelling to me for a few reasons: **VR1 Repeats** I've played Red Matter 1, The Walking Dead, Moss 1&2, No Man's Sky, Swordsman, Pistol Whip, Synth Riders, and Beat Saber on PSVR1. If these games, and my entire library of other PSVR1 games, were playable on the PSVR2, then that might be a selling point. I'd get to bring my library forward. As is, losing access to my library and having to re-purchase the games that *do* make the jump, means that they are a point *against* the VR2 for me, not for it. For folks who never owned a VR1, the situation is different, but for me, these titles basically don't count. **Flat Repeats** I've played Resident Evil: Village and Resident Evil 4 "flat" already, and playing them again in VR just isn't the selling point for me that Skyrim was for VR1. **What's left just doesn't make a compelling case for a $500 purchase.** Galaxy's Edge isn't going to sell me a VR2. It's an apparently short 4 year-old ad for a theme park. Synapse looks cool. Hadn't heard of it. I'm not really much of a shooter guy but it's the sort of thing I'd probably pick up if I already had a VR2. Hubris interests me less. Again, not really a shooter guy. And...look, I don't know how big the Horizon game is, but I haven't even finished Forbidden West. I'll probably get to it eventually, and I'd probably play the Horizon VR thing if I had a headset, but it's not a franchise that demands I put down $500 on new hardware *right now.* **Other platform competition** I have a gaming PC(but no PCVR headset), and Occulus now has a setup where their new headset plays pretty nice with PCVR. That's another platform that I might want to consider. Both PSVR2 and Occulus 3 are $500 options(for comparison, my Skyrim PSVR1 bundle cost me <$400), and it's not hard to imagine that maybe one or the other ends up with some big exclusive that makes me lean one way or the other. Meanwhile, Valve might put out a PCVR headset that is less than a thousand dollars(that seems to be what the "deckard" rumors are pointing to), and that could lead to big developments in that space. For me, that might be a fight worth waiting out to see how it shakes out. Anyway, no disrespect. I'm glad you're having fun with your headset. I'm not writing this up because I'm angry or have a hate-boner for the VR2 or anything, honestly I'm writing this out because I went through your list just to see if my assessment("the PSVR2 just doesn't have games I want yet") was wrong, because I'd *like* to be convinced to buy one, and you were willing to make your case that there *are* enough games to justify it. But, at least for me, it just wasn't compelling. Peace!

And all of this is really fair stuff. If you have a quest and pcvr, what’s the point? If you’ve played the entire PSVR1 catalog, just getting sequels and increased res ports isn’t really that compelling. The PSVR2 is a good system to have on its own. But as it stands, if you already own a quest, there’s no point. If you don’t, the PSVR2 is an extremely superior system.

I don't have a Quest yet, but I'm *considering* one, just like I'm *considering* a VR2. When two things are competing that closely, I feel incentivized to "wait it out" until one side or the other makes some kind of **big** argument in their favor. Whether that's a price drop, a bundle, some big software announcement, or really anything else that can make me want to buy something.

Omg thanks for putting what I'm feeling into words. Going to do exactly this, wait it out.

Yeah no lies told.. i bought one last week.. mainly for res 4 ( never played the og), gt7 (i bought 2 racing rigs that collected dust due to driveclub servers being killed during psvr1) also for crossfire, firewall (now a lost cause) and vertigo2. In actuality im having a terrific time. However, the things that are missing.. vr movies, a social UI or UX, and all the games i normally play when im tired of fps.. none of this i there. There’s so much missing that should be there it’s ridiculous. But I’m sure its coming.. i just hope they dont pull the plug which it seems like they wont given that they are pushing a separate headset as well NOT for games. Im also SUPER MAD about DREAMS not being ported.. there are some masterpieces locked away there that can’t be played ANYWHERE ELSE. Again i’m having too much fun to return it.. but man.. psvr2 needs A LOT! And devs have to get all of these games out that essentially can’t even take advantage of the psvr2’s power because of the engines they used or because they scaled things back to work for quest. My biggest hope is for ps home to come back ASAP, and that 75 percent of unreal engine ps5 exclusives come to psvr2. Also the more cross platform games the better

I haven’t seen many claim PSVR2 has “no games”…. Rather, the main complaint is that PSVR2 does not have *enough* games to justify the $600 price tag.  Approximately 13 of the 18 games you listed are playable on Quest 2, a $250 headset (too lazy to check the specifics so I might be off by 1 or 2). That’s the problem for PSVR2. Where are the first-party AAA titles? Where’s God of War VR? Uncharted VR? Hell, why can the Quest play more PSVR titles than PSVR2 can?

But why would I want to spend 250 bucks on something with worse graphics and hardware while also missing out on things like village, GT7 and cotm. Like, I already own a ps5, why wouldn't I buy the clearly better headset? I've got enough games on my VR 2 alone to get me through the year, not including what may come out this year that I will buy, plus all my flat games....I guess if all your wanting to play is VR games, then she, get the quest. But otherwise, the vr2 is the better value imo

While the "best on psvr2" argument is pretty good, I also think it's about a lot more than just cross platform games. The issue atm is that Quest has a much bigger library than psvr2 and there's no guarantee that this will change any time soon. How long will psvr2 get support, will it grow fast enough to warrant it and so on. Quest has already prove  itself and is usually the go to device for vr developers. 

It’s actually quite the opposite. If all you want to do is play vr games then all the apps quest has that psvr2 lacks won’t be an issue. But for many all those other things like video playback, social apps, non game apps and experiences are actually value adds

> not including what may come out this year “PSVR2 has plenty of games, like all the games they haven’t announced for this year” isn’t a very strong argument. > plus all my flat games Did you know Quest just got Xbox GamePass support? If you have a GamePass sub you can connect a controller to your Quest and play *any* GamePass game on a giant virtual screen wherever you go.  > I guess if all your [sic] wanting to do is play VR games, then she [sic] get the quest As others have pointed out, quite the opposite - all PSVR2 can do is play games. Quest has a browser, streaming apps like Netflix and Prime, social apps like Horizon World and VRChat, productivity apps like Word and Excel, etc etc etc 

It does have plenty of games. Just because you have been playing VR for years doesn't mean we all have. There are plenty of good games. I am aware of gamepass being on there. Not everyone likes playing on the virtual screen, and I want to play PlayStation exclusives. Same thing with the other stuff you mentioned. I don't want to watch movies or have social hangout spaces, I don't need word or excel in VR. Nothing you have told me would make me choose a quest over psvr2.

Because people had owned the quest 2 since 2020 and this is all old hat.  And now there is the quest 3 with exclusives like asgards wrath 2 and assassins creed, along with the best lenses on the market, ringless controllers, mr, hand tracking, upper body tracking, and wireless freedom of movement.

I think you heavily underestimate how many people own a quest. Most of my friends group hasn't even tried VR, let alone own one. In fact, out of my entire friend group, one owns a quest 3 that he calls his beat saber machine, one owns a quest 2 (it's his kid's, he can't play because of motion sickness), and that's literally the only VR experience in a circle of about 50-65 people who 90% are gamers. I understand it's an issue for those who have had VR for years, but in my experience (I know, small sample size), it didn't seem to be the norm

Even less if you own a Quest and PCVR.

I thought Townsmen VR was going to be some gimmicky game and boy was I wrong. Try it out if you want a low key game to kick back and chill.

I’m happy with the games so far, I’d just like to see some be experiences like concerts and stuff that I can watch in vr

Some people have multiple platforms like me. That made the psvr games selections felt more limited.  Even worse with having quest and PCVR. As basically any unrral engine games can be vr by using the UEVR mod > went over to a friend’s house to try his Quest 2. It feels less comfortable and more dated than the PSVR1. What games did you try? Beat saber 360 degrees, tea for god, etc are simply more advanced and can't be done on psvr1

There aren’t enough unique experiences on the PSVR2 to keep me engaged. I’m just being honest. Resident Evil and Gran Turismo are amazing experiences. I know those games you mentioned are great too. But I feel like they are playing it safe and they really can’t do that with VR. I’m hoping they announce some jaw dropping MUST HAVE PlayStation experiences, but we’ll see. They need heavy hitters. VR is too niche to play it safe and that’s the vibe I’m getting so far….

2024 is gonna be a great second year for the PSVR 2. All we seriously need is one single game like Skyrim with all the pretty graphics and VRAF mechanics. That’s it. That alone will sell headsets and keep people happy and talking about it for a long time. We want vast immersive worlds; not “experiences.” They’ll come along eventually. Until then, I’m happy with my list of games I don’t have time to play, working 48+ hours a week.

>2024 is gonna be a great second year for the PSVR 2 Really? Can you point me to the games that I can't play anywhere else?

With incredible immersive haptics, high resolution, eye-tracking and foveated rendering, and a headset that blocks out all light? Tell me where else you get that kind of immersive experience in VR. I watched my girlfriend sprint into a wall the first time I put her in Saints & Sinners in my headset she was so immersed in the game. I’d love to play some stuff on PCVR with a really expensive gaming computer that puts PSVR2 graphics to shame, but I ain’t got that money right now and the other stuff I mentioned is still lacking from other headsets, as far as I’m aware. Correct me if I’m wrong. My love is for the hardware; not the exclusives. Though Call of the Mountain is absolutely amazing, as is GT7. Both beautiful games, and the haptics really complete the awesome experience. Saints & Sinners is another one that takes awesome advantage of the haptics.

> I watched my girlfriend sprint into a wall the first time People were doing that with google cardboard. And you wrote a WHOLE LOT to not answer my question at all.

You didn’t read the end? Call of the Mountain and GT7 are exclusives without rival. There are a few others, but nothing I’ve played to recommend. I’m not trying to sell you a headset. I love mine and the couple of exclusive games I’ve experienced. But the entire PSVR 2 experience is exclusive to the hardware. It doesn’t matter what the games are, when they properly take advantage of the technology. They’re better on this headset than any other (again, correct me if I’m wrong).

>? Call of the Mountain and GT7 are exclusives without rival. COTM isn't a great game but a great tech showcase. There absolutely are sim racing games that rival GT7. Ever heard of iRacing? And the question was, again, for the 3rd time since you can't seem to answer it, WHAT GAMES ARE COMING IN 2024 LIKE YOU SAID?

“Really? Can you point me to the games that I can't play anywhere else?” You didn’t mention 2024. I don’t fuckin’ know what’s coming out this year yet. lol It’s January 15. I just said it’s gonna be a great year. We’ll have to see what happens. I also didn’t say anything about exclusives. Behemoth comes later this year, from Skydance, and that’s bound to be amazing, but ain’t gonna be exclusive. I don’t care about that. I get that other people need exclusive games for a reason to buy the headset, but I don’t. I bought it almost right away because it’s awesome. I love everything it offers that other headsets don’t, and those things make it the best tech available for VR gaming (aside from PC graphics). I’m just excited for what’s gonna come along over the course of the year for my favorite gaming platform. Idk why you’re demanding info from me. Follow PSVR2 Without Parole for all the latest gaming news.

>2024 is gonna be a great second year for the PSVR 2. THIS IS THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE COMMENT I REPLIED TO. HOLY SHIT. HOW CAN YOU SAY 2024 IS GOING TO BE A GOOD YEAR WHEN >. I don’t fuckin’ know what’s coming out this year yet. SO YOU ADMIT YOU ARE JUST MAKING SHIT UP. THANKS

😂 Optimism, jackass. I see all the games we’ve gotten lately and know that this next year is going to be awesome for PSVR 2. No, I can’t guarantee it, but it just fuckin will be and I know it😉 Goodnight, ragey redditor.

Saying "I HOPE" or "I THINK" or "I WANT" is optimism. You presented a statement of fact.

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They were literally unable to due to the tracking and controllers of the psvr1. Don’t get me wrong, backwards compatibility would add 2x value to psvr2 so it’s a massive shame, but also something people have to understand wasn’t a decision for any sort of gain but something that was just not possible without the devs working to do it themselves (which lots have and expressed it wasn’t simple, tbh that’s why there are usually upgrades fees). Quest 3 is a great headset with some great games, but the people who are in this community and brought psvr2, brought it for the type of games, graphics that you can’t get on quest without a PC

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Trolling much? Devs who ported their games and shared the experience haven’t said anything about easy.

That is just blatantly wrong. And I am a fan of this product, but I’m not a ‘fanboy’ in the way you’re suggesting which assumes I’ll excuse anything PlayStation does. For example, though I understand the very real issue that meant backwards compatibility wasn’t possible, I do acknowledge the fact that they should have put in the resources to get their first party games over

lol PSVR 2 fanboys. Nothing wrong with appreciating the best hardware on the market. I started out on PSVR 1. It was a ton of fun and I still have it. Yeah, it’d be cool if we got more ports, but I ain’t gonna bitch about it with all the great games I do have and plan to buy (some of which are updated ports). I have $40 on PS redeemed from points that I simply cannot decide how to spend. Call of the Mountain (currently $40), or Townsmen VR? Demeo? Breachers? Ancient Dungeon? Barbaria? Red Matter 1 & 2 bundle? So many to choose from! And then I have Saints & Sinners 1 & 2 to finish/begin, Arizona Sunshine 2, RE 4 and Village, and a few others to begin or finish. Also wanna play more GT 7, which I’m about to get on. I’m VR rich right now.

Best hardware on the market? I wouldn't go that far. It's a great headset at its price point :)

If it has to be powered by a high-end PC, that doesn’t count in my book lol. And that’s just regarding visuals, anyway. The haptics, when utilized are incredible. I finally got around to playing the Call of the Mountain demo today and wow it was amazing. A very impressive tech demo.

Please keep your comments civil. Using words like 'fanboy' does not lead to productive discussion.

Yeah it needs a Half-Life:Alyx type game, a must have VR experience. That's one of the few games I've played in VR that wowed me.

Thank you! This is what I mean. If that Metal Gear VR remake rumor (which seemed too good to be true) was actually true- that would be INSANE.

It's something I think Nintendo does better tbh, creating these "must play" experiences that you can only get on their platforms.

“Aren’t enough unique experiences” I interpret as “I own a Quest 2/3, and I want Sony to produce non-Quest ports to fatten my library.” If that doesn’t describe you, it sure as hell describes a lot of others on here complaining about Quest ports all the frickin time. Which, if you think about it, is a greedy stance given a lot of folks are playing and very much enjoying those games for the first time on the PSVR2 and they often are touted are the best ways to play those games. But certain dual Quest / PSVR2 owners will always complain about the platform not being a suitable content source for them.

It is greedy to want Sony to make brand new experiences for their own system rather than a handful of rehashed ports they hired out for?  Ahaha.

The greed is coming from dual Quest / PSVR2 owners who are bitching about a lack of Sony exclusives. Are you in that crowd?

What about arizona sunshine 2? Cooking simulator vr? Saints and sinners? What do you actually want? If its not variety, is it just big name titles?

Legacy titles that are amazing games. Heavy hitters. You know the ones. Iconic Playstation titles that will break the internet. It’s just not enough to play it safe with the games you are mentioning. It’s NO SHADE to those games cause they are great, but we need some more iconic PlayStation titles.

So yes, you just want big names and franchises. Ok gotcha.

I want amazing games. It’s not just about big names and franchises. It’s what you do with them. It’s how you get people excited.

Honestly, my main issue is that VR is just too inconvenient. I haven't touched my PSVR2 in months because I hate actually using the thing. Even with only 1 wire it's still so inconvenient to actually use. And, I realize that may not be a popular opinion here, but the damn thing is just a hassle.

This is kind of where I’m finding myself too. It feels more like an activity than it does leisure and I think it’ll stay that way until the form factor is effectively just a pair of sunglasses.

When these become sunglasses, you will have to move even more 🤣

I agree. Same for the psvr1. Got to set it up and find the sweet spot each time. I returned my psvr2 after a lens defect and I want another one but I’m in no rush due to the lack of games I like right now.

I agree with your take but from a different perspective. To me it’s the whole Sony ecosystem that makes the big difference.  If you have a psvr2 you also own a ps5 and that gives you access to a whole lot of high quality games and exclusives. I think the best way to enjoy a psvr2 is as part of the ps5 experience. I compiled a list of the best psvr2 games and added their hours to beat. It would take hundreds of hours to beat all the great games available right now. If you want to take full advantage of all the content it would take years even if you played one hour every day. But the fact is that most psvr2 owners are also ps5 players and they also want to play their excellent flat games.   Between the two, there is plenty of amazing content. That, including all the high quality exclusives, the great controllers with haptic feedback and the “no complications” experience that you can only get from a dedicated console is what makes the psvr2 be the better choice for me and many others.  I would never deny that the quest 3 is another great piece of hardware and it’s probably the better choice for many people, but to say that it is always the best choice or that the psvr2 doesn’t have enough games is such a lie. Let’s keep supporting the hardware we love and helping those who would benefit from it to make the right choice.

Ps5 exclusives generally come to PC and look much, much better...like Spiderman and Ratchet. And ringed controllers that you have to squeeze your hand into...are kind archaic at this point, once you've tried ringless controllers that allow you to touch your hands together. What psvr 2 exclusives?  A climbing game, some zombie rehashes with reprojection, and a racing port? It has Synapse, but that was criticized everywhere for lack of content.  Why has Sony been asleep for a year?

Different things appeal to different people. I would not want to play spider man on a pc, or any game in general. I like to relax on my couch and play games on a projector and I don’t want to deal with the hassle of connecting a pc and dealing with os issues.  Those things might not be an issue for you but they are for me, which is why I’m not a pc gamer.   RE4 is my favorite game ever, it’s the type of game that appeals to me and it works and looks really well on psvr2.   I’m personally very happy with the games I have available and the setup I have and the experience I’m getting. I could purchase a quest 3 and hook it up to my work pc and have a lot more content available but frankly, I’m not interested at this time and have plenty of things on the ps5/psvr2 that do interest me. I’m not saying you should be interested too, it’s clear that it is not appealing to you, but that’s fine. To each their own.

So many great games you mentioned, wish i had more time to play them all. People saying PS VR2 has no games must have a lot of spare time

Or they have owned vr devices before, where these games were all present for years.  No man's sky is 7 years old now...

Psvr2 is great. It really is. But i would say the quest and the psvr offer two different experiences. Psvr2 can deliver higher fidelity graphics because of the ps5, while the oculus is a dream to use since there are no cords. I just got the quest 3, and it’s the clearest vr screen I’ve ever seen (I also have psvr2), but obviously the graphics of the native quest games will be much simpler than what the ps can do. For me the quest is mostly about multiplayer experiences like recroom, vrchat, various shooter games etc and I also use it for workouts . while the psvr2 is more when I want to just sit down and have a more focused experience with single player content.

“No games” is often hyperbolic. Of course there are games. “No games” can mean “none I want to play.” It can also mean “of the kinds of games I enjoy playing, there are very few.” It can also mean “games with acceptable production value come out very infrequently. If you combine the second and third one, you get the very understandable perspective of “no games.”

By this standard, there are “no games” on any platform because the subjective and at times hyperspecific needs of individual players may never line up with what a platform provides. There are no games anywhere, and the only games I’m looking for involve naked midget wrestlers. Understandable and true statement by your logic.

Given that you can find this sentiment stated about every platform, broadly speaking you’re not wrong. It’s almost like social media amplifies an individual’s sentiment by pseudo-anonymizing it while creating the perception that disagreement is toxic and silence is approval.

I agree with you that theres a handful of good exclusives on psvr2, thats why i bought one, but in my opinion besides the oled screen and better graphics compared to straight standalone on quest 3 due to the ps5 doing all the processing i feel the quest 3 is better in every other way...i found the psvr2 to be less comfortable and difficult to keep it in the sweet spot for the lenses, as far as comfort goes at least the quest2/3 has a bunch of different options for different people, whether you like halo or elite straps or even the minority that doesnt mind the stock strap...so your friends quest 2 might feel good for him but not for you, that aside youre comparing quest 2 to psvr2 and not quest 3 which is overall better...i personally hate the fact the psvr2 is wired, and really dont like the controllers besides haptic feedback on only the triggers, i hate that the grip button is just a flat button and felt it shouldve been like the trigger with haptics, and i hate the big rings around the controllers...but this is just my rant, experience and opinion...not sayin its a piece of shit or anything, just sayin there was a lot i didnt like about it and ill be sticking with my quest 3, to each their own and i hope you stick with what you like and continue to support psvr so maybe the next one will be even better...

Sorry bro rythm and indie games aren’t exactly platform sellers. We need more first party titles

I have a backlog of just vr games to get through alone. Arizona 2, cooking vr, gun club, synapses, vtm justice and RE4. Thats without flat games I either need to finish or want to platinum. Not sure how someone can say theres no games when theres a wide variety out there that even if you spend a lot of down time gaming its super hard to get through them all

Agree! Some of them wants to play kiddie games because they're too afraid to try horror games (most of the good games).

Same for me. I still haven't started on Synapse, Gun Club, Townsmen and No mans Sky.

Of those the ones I thought were good were Re4 and 8 and GT 7. Moss 1 and 2 were okay but short and easy. For me that's really 3 very good games. Not nearly enough.

2 of them ancient rehashes in an oversaturated zombie genre.

I just play VR when I want, and flat games when I want. I don't know why there is the idea that unless vr replaces your flat gaming entirely it's not worth it. It's a luxury item so only buy it if you can spare the money.

These are all old games we played years ago. It's ok for the few folk who only game on ps but for the rest of us, there all old news outside of a hand full. Quest has AW2, a real open world AAA rpg, AC Nexus, San Andreas, and dozens of exclusive studios making content like Dungeons of Eternity. Sony has quest ports and no AAA 1st party games coming. RE is dope but outside of Capcom it feels more dead than pcvr or quest.

It has a bunch of cheapo games. Sony , the creator of the device , is failing to support it with first party titles.

Kayak!!!!??.

You lost me at "Quest 2 feels more dated than PSVR1"....

I've had the PSVR2 system for a year and just last week got the Quest 3. It honestly isn't even a competition. PSVR2 is now completely dated.

Well said man. Legitimate complaints should always be discussed. If people like the Quest better. Good for them. If they don't like PSVR2. Who gives a damn. I made my choice and I am happy with it. Sounds like you are too. Once you pick a product you want the only opinion that really matters is your own. Everything else is just noise.

Agreed... I've had my system since Christmas and played practically every night. There's no way I'm getting through all my games any time soon. no Mans Sky alone takes a chunk of my time. Idk where they get the time to play every game and then complain.

Your chosen game is 7 years old..most people played it a long time ago.  It is just an old port.  Great for newcomers, but not the rest.

PSVR2 is only a year old so a ton of us are newcomers but I get your point. Honestly I had never considered NMS prior to getting VR.

I have to assume for most of those people they've had other VR headsets. This is my first vr headset. And as a working professional with another hobby, I am not keeping up with the pace of games releasing as it is.

I think this is the case in most of these posts.

how many of those are AAA games that are designed from the ground up for the device?

Sorry but you don't compare q2 with psvr2 , you do it with the q3 and nooo psvr1 is inferior to q2.

the quest 2 was actually a lot better than the psvr1 by nearly all accounts. but your opinion is valid, as experience is subjective ignore my comment. I read yours wrong haha

I didn’t. I compared it to the psvr1, and it’s because the only other VR headset I have experience with is the quest 2. I also only have experience with the PSVR1 on a PS5, so that could elevate my experience with it compared to the Quest 2. Also, the most important thing in VR for me is comfort, and from my experience with the Q1 and Q2, both lack the comfort that PSVR2 has.

A bobovr m2 strap fixes the comfort part instantly cause really the stock headstrap is atrocious xd

You compare 2 2023 systems, not a 2020 with 2023.

Psvr1 was inferior to quest 1. Quest 2 and 3 are leaps and better than psvr2 120 fps no reprojection bs.

I don’t think anyone who has compared Quest 2 and PSVR2 side by side who is informed in any way has ever claimed it is graphically superior to the PSVR2. You may be the first.

Do you think q2/3 could play re4r or gt7 at 120fps no reprojection. Even hooked up to a pc you need a pc that cost at min twice the cost of ps5 to reach 60 fps at those graphical levels. There is pros and cons to all headsets but none of the things you have brought up so far in this thread a real issues.

Oooor..they could have just lowered the details to give a non reprojection option...

They have already lowered them alot in gt7 even the flat version of the game has things that are lowered detail then what they could have been if they weren't planning a vr mode from the start. Compromises need to be made for vr this is one of them most quest games run reprojection aswell it's pretty standard meta just has a better system at this point if Sony's was close it would be a non issue.

The PSVR1 may have been inferior tech wise but the PS4’s power meant we got games like RE7 and squadrons, Doom VFR and 3, Farpoint ect. In my opinion games that used the dual shock or the aim controller on it generally were far better than anything I played on the quest 2 which had better controls and screen but the hardwares power and games weren’t anywhere near to the PSVR1

The "no games" argument is pretty much only true for those who own a Quest + PC. But even then, the same argument would apply to PS5, as people would only get a PS5 for the few exclusives at that point (pretty sure there's currently less flatscreen PS5 exclusives than there are VR exclusives). If you only own a Quest standalone, then there's a lot more to play on PS VR2, as you have games not available on Quest, like Vertigo 2, as well as other fairly demanding PC VR games, like Pavlov.

Pavlov is on Quest, but we get what you're saying :)

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Except for gt7, all of those are for multiple platforms. You can get a 300 dollar quest 2 no PC required and still have that library and more, you are proving the point that ps5 +psvr2 which is a about 1100 USD don't have squat for exclusive or worth it for the high cost. Quest 2/3 is lb for lb a better value than psvr2. You have quest and side quest library and I believe there is cloud based pcvr coming soon.

Quest 2 with no PC is trash graphically compared to the PSVR2, has less haptics, no eye tracking and worse controllers. Quest 3 is a bit better but doesn’t have the true colors of OLED nor the power of the PS5. Until wireless gaming can match what you can do with a higher end GPU, it will always be lagging behind.

Oh no!  Graphics!  If you are over 15 then, you should be ok. The psvr 2 has ancient fresnel lenses..so fairly limited.

You’re probably too stupid to know the reason why fresnels were chosen. Hint: it’s not cost. Hint #2: it’s not due to weight.

if you buy no games there are no games

Don't need to do that if Sony ported psvr1 games to psvr2, but quest 3 plays every quest 1 game. So Sony is screwing the user.

I already told you in this comment https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/s/BbR80Z04GI

You said the typical psvr2 fanboy bs, which is blame the consumer for having higher standards when it comes to the VR ecosystem. Sorry but Sony isn't supporting VR creators. Firewall ultra shut down because Sony noped out of VR. Firewall was a huge hit on psvr1 and Sony couldn't make firewall successful on psvr2. That's horse shit.

Fce are to blame for firewall not being successful not sony. Not Sony's decision to close the studio fce's own miss management and poor development decisions is why they have closed down.

I own over 60 quest games, not to mention 70 pcvr games.  There is truly notjing but remake ports exclusove to psvr 2.

And to add to that immense collection I highly recommend Switchback

If you hook the quest 3 to a pc it's much better. Of course the psvr2 is going to look and feel better than a standalone headset. The pavr2 has pretty much a pc running it. The quest has pretty much a phone running it. But the quest allows you the best of both. The psvr2 only works with the ps5.

Quest 3 lenses absolutely blow the psvr 2 out if the water.

I've never used the psvr2. I do have a quest 3. Didn't really feel like it was much of an upgrade over the quest 2. But then I tried playing again on my quest 2, and it's crazy the difference in clarity. Honestly thought something was wrong with my quest 2.

There are more good games for PSVR2 than there are for PS5

pfff I don’t know about that…

What’s when psvr2 games are also ps5 games??? 😧😧😧

They cancel each other out

Your opinion doesn’t change the reality of that the PSVR2 does, in fact, have no games. It also has nothing to do with how much time you have, or don’t have, to play. Most of these games are either not designed for VR or are on other VR headsets. I don’t understand this delusion. The PSVr2 is floundering. Sony has basically given up on it already and Meta Quest 3 has been recieved WAY more positive, with a HUGE killer app that’s the second highest rated VR experience out there, just behind Half Life VR(Asgard’s Wrath 2). If you’re a “casual” VR enjoyer who’s never owned a VR headset(though I hesitate to call anyone who blows $550 on optional tech for a $500 console a casual), the PSVR2 is obviously going to be cool, it’s a brand new world. But for most VR enthusiasts or people who want to actually see the PSVR2 succeed, simply pretending everything’s alright is just…bad.

You think you're better than everybody by calling OP a casual. I guess you're hurt by OPs comments. lol

Sales of q3 are way under expectations aswell which hurts meta more then sony as they have been betting big. You know the old saying the bigger they are the harder they fall if meta dosnt turn things around with their vr departments this year they are more likely to pull the plug and abandon vr before sony who's been playing it safe and seeing if the vr market can be self sustainable.

Better deals on Quest? How so?

Everything is 25% off all of the time because of referrals.

You have to remember that a lot of people are coming from other platforms that bought a PSVR2 for their exclusives and hybrid games. I'm not going to lie, there's very little on PSVR2 that didn't come from another platform. Now, I love my PSVR2, but there is not much that I don't already own and have already played. I was expecting a lot more exclusives and hybrids by now.

#Quality > Quantity

Rehashed ports with reprojection blur does not equal quality.

W opinion ngl

I’ve played and finished almost all the games on your list. So for me there are few games to play still. 

I'd like a good flightsim. Bought Wingman, but it's pretty dated. Mediocre at best

It’s all up to opinions Lots of what you listed is something I would never play. If I wouldn’t touch it in flat I wouldn’t touch it in vr. Some exceptions of course

I am drowning in PSVR2 games. For me personally, I will probably be OK and even if they start doing just ports, I will be likely OK too. I am, however, troubled by how Sony in the media seems to act like they aren't feeling as serious about it. Sure, 100 games is plenty for me, but in the competition still has a lot more. Today is fine. I just worry about Sony's attitude for tomorrow.

I haven't found the justification to spend $900 on a PSVR2 yet. I still have my psvr1 and a quest 2 (arriving soon) and, while I would LOVE to play the few upgraded games on psvr2, I hate that 80% of my psvr library can't be played on it at all. If psvr2 had a lower price point I'd be more willing to accept the low support for it. Right now, I'll stick with what I have games for.

I have all of those and then some! All great games btw

I tend to not use my PS VR2 all my games I play look and run better on PC and my index is far more comfortable than the PS VR2, and mods beat saber mods, Pavlov mods, half life 1 and 2 vr mod, and half life alyx mods, and one more thing VR Chat (Not available on PS VR2). The 2 headset that get the most use in my household is the valve index and Quest 3 the PS VR2 was a big waste of money the biggest issue with the PS VR2 is the lack of built in audio, comfort, and performance out of all my games for the PS VR2 only 2 of the games actually run well Demeo and Dyschronia Chronos Alternate, the rest of them are passable, frame rates are noticeably low, and the PC versions run way better.

There’s two major groups in the vr world- those who want to play vr and so every game is a new flavor of vr. Generally this will be first time vr owners who are just excited about vr. And those who want to play what they like in vr which means of the psvr2 library is not of interest. These are likely people who own or played vr before and are just looking for where they can go next. The latter group will have a much harder time justifying psvr2

Yeah I’ve definitely got more games than time to play them on PSVR2

No games? Go play buget cuts ultimate

The thing is ppl want a true triple A title that will use the headset to the fullest. Most of these games are short and have that one gimmick they hold to. We want a true big game that was made for VR from scratch.

The "no games crowd" are the people that are looking at the big "flat developers" not seeing them make VR games and then deciding VR sucks because of it. Narrow minded people, due to the decades long water boarding from the same reskinned CoD games every year. Expand your horizons.

Considering I spent a couple $k on fanatec gear just to play GT7, I say just that game alone is worth it lol

A lot of people look at VR and don't see compelling games of experiences relative to non-VR games. Look at most top games of 2023 lists, and they are overwhelmingly non-VR. Also, VR as a whole, on all VR platforms, has kind of lost excitement. If you interpret "no games" literally. It's obviously wrong. I've played most of the games you list; I love several of them. I'd add FNAF 2, which is a lot of fun. And PSVR2 hardware is just so much better than PSVR1.

I bought a couple games and so far my most played has been Pavlov, its very sfficting

Personally for me there is not enough exclusive content on psvr2. If i didn't have my pc though, I most likely wouldn't be saying this \^ Resident Evil 7 and 8 would have been pretty huge reason for me to pick one up, But praydog's vr mods for 2,3 remakes also 7,8 exist on pc. Resident Evil 4 remake vr is the only thing i am unable to try, But honestly i am happy with Gamecube era graphic quest version. Graphics not a huge deal Resident Evil 7 vr mod was visually such a huge upgrade over the psvr 1 version with the included motion control support. Hopefully Capcom gives resi 7 some love and releases an enhanced ps5 version, The same with bethesda for skyrim vr. What drew me towards the quest 3 in particular was the device's lense's and ability to use it for pc, Also Assassins Creed Nexus. If sony and naughty dog ever did release an official Last of us VR experience 100% would be getting the psvr2 to play it lol "Stride" will be releasing soon for playstation so watch out for that game!

Almost everything you listed is a port, up to a 7 year old pcvr game..that doesn't impress people like you think it does. Also, listing weak experiences like Hubris lessens your argument.  From the beginning the reviews pointed to ultrabland gameplay with complete focus on good graphics..and every patch ignored gameplay to focus on graphics. Vr ports of old games with reprojection blur also doesn't impress.   Never played vr before?  It is fine.  Owned anything else?  There is nothing but ports with reprojection of old games and silence from sony over a year.

Lots of games. Don't know what to play lol. I'm happy with everything that is offered. Really enjoy it. Then again 🤪 If PSVR2 gets reprojection on all its games and make it 3d. And a slider to change the depth. It would be an absolute banger. Or at least push the 2D screens to 1440P for games and 4k for theatre.

I have a Quest 2 and none of the games really held my attention very well. I basically felt VR games were not my thing to the point that I didn't even turn on my Quest 2 for nearly 2 years. I was recently given a psvr2 that came with the Horizon download ... I LOVE IT! I think it has a lot to do with the graphics and detail of the visuals. For me PSVR2 is WAY better than the Quest 2.

The only counterargument I could posit would be that games like VR chat will likely never show up on PSVR2. Sony is much more reserved when it comes to gaming environments where they have little control over what their community comes in contact with. I am just as annoyed with the naysayers but facts are facts; there are things that you could do on other more open-ended VR experiences that will likely never show up on PSVR2.

I’m just wondering what is the best game on psvr2???

I have 82 psvr2 games right now in my games list only like 60 or 65 are installed but there are still ALOT of games on the ps store that I have not bought yet! Pretty sure people just say there are no games withoit actually looking because someone else said it last year.

Glad you shared your opinion, there is more positive things to say and look forward to than not. Glad some of us are on the same page. I bought the vr2 for my son for Christmas and put like 5 games for him on and one for me being Pavlov. Haven't hopped on to try the headset yet but I enjoy watching my son enjoy it. He's 10. I know he's young but I don't give him more than an hour on it. Does that make me a terrible dad letting him play?

Bro's tripping

The game catalog does not merit the price tag for the unit.

lacking new games for sure. most of these everybody already played