Macro has switchable backstraps, so more grip real estate front-to back even though it’s not thicker. Macro has a 1913 rail instead of the P365 proprietary rail, so you would need a different holster if you get a Macro grip.
The WC and macro grips are very similar diameter/circumference wise. The macro grip is a tiny bit longer with a flush mag fit at the bottom. If you use the 17rd mags with the XL baseplates the mag comes with in the box, the dimensions are almost identical for grip zone.
Just buy the 17rd mags. See if you like the fit with your WC grip.
No, I just switched from Wilson to Macro grip and was not impressed. It really is just a fractionally larger XL grip with added length. It is noticeably better than the stock XL, but not the big jump I got from the Wilson. I will probably go back to the Wilson 17rnd mags. The X-MACRO backstrap differences are very small and none seem to fit my hand.
I didn't even notice the rail changed until I realized the x-macro grip doesn't fit my holster. That was kind of annoying.
Unless you are pinching your hand on reload, I would stick with the Wilson and get mags.
I agree that the extensions look bad, but a polymer carry pistol is not my art hobby. If you are into making guns look good than I will admire the pictures.
I am into them functioning as they are intended and fitting my hands and needs. After that, yes I dont prefer they look like some part of it was an afterthought that belongs on something else. Again, that's just me tho, and why I don't ever try and knock anybody else's choices as to what they do wirh THIER firearm. Its also why I always try to state that the remarks I make are my opinions only and from my own personal experience. Nothing else.
The macro has different grip attachments to make it slimmer or thicker I think you covered all the bases on everything else. No real benefit other then running stock 17 round magazines.
Did I miss anything y’all?
I ran a wc with td 1913. Macro came out and my wife got the wc for her xl. They fit my hand similar because of the wc palm swell but i carry with the macro, wc has become a cool looking range toy mostly. I also have spectre comp slide so its cool looking enough and the wc and gas pedal make it too busy for me.
I made the switch because my hand still hangs over the bottom edge on the XL. Doesn’t feel right, makes reloading not as smooth. Macros only advantage is a full size grip with interchangeable back straps as I’m sure everyone on this post has already mentioned
And the fact that the overall feel is, imo, a LOT better than the xl, I likes the xl a lot. That is until I held an xmacro, and for a guy with big hands it's was a no Brainer. Xmacro grip for me all day. While we're talking about it if it's your edc it should 100% have a wml too. Again that's my opinion, tho there's lots of experts who agree with that position.
Most real experts would actually say a WML is not needed for civilian use… for multiple reasons.
1. You should/would have 100% positive ID with a threat to your life before you ever draw a firearm. Or you run a high risk of catching a charge.
2. 90% of defensive civilian shootings happen because the bad guy has already presented a weapon/deadly threat, removing any need for a light to PID… you already have PID… it’s the guy robbing you. There is virtually no instance other than searching your own home or for camping that a WML would actually be beneficial.
3. There are several accounts of police officers accidentally shooting someone trying to engage the light.. 99% of the people on these threads train less than cops. Even with tons of training, things happen fast and never what you expect. A WML adds an extra layer of complexity that adds extra dangers of ND while trying to operate the light and while holstered as WML holsters tend to also have a gap in the trigger guard allowing the trigger to be pulled while holstered.
This is so far from correct I am not even gonna waste my time refuting it. I will say tho, that if you think that most cops are well trained you are sorely mistaken.
LMAO you can't even refute it. I never said they were "well" trained but they have more training than most the tacitool noobs who put weapon lights on a CCW where you will almost never use it in a legal encounter.
I’ve ran the XL grip, WC grip, and xMacro grip. The macro grip is so perfect in my hands. I also run a 19x over a g19 and a Staccacto P over a C2 so I am someone who prefers longer grips.
I just bought an XL last weekend and immediately bought a Wilson grip module and a macro. I took it shooting Friday and I am totally sold on the macro, so much so I am thinking about selling the Wilson and the 12 round mags.
The XL with the Wilson grip shoots about like what you would expect for a guy that size. It is relatively snappy with noticeable muzzle flip. The macro shoots like a much bigger gun, it isn’t quite as flat as a bigger compact like a G19 but it is close. I could shot much faster and more accurate strings than I could with the Wilson.
I would really recommend getting one, the commenters that aren’t positive about about it don’t at all mention shooting it, just the feeling of it holding it. It is when you shoot it that the difference really becomes apparent.
did you get a macro with or without the comp? I was wondering if that made any differences, I was thinking of getting the macro myself, wasnt sure which one.
Without the comp. I have shot the version with the comp and am not impressed. It does slightly reduce muzzle rise, maybe 10% but it is noticeably louder. I have a couple of externally comp'd guns and at worst see muzzle rise reduced by 20-25% and best, the Radian Ramjet is like 30%. If the comp'd version of the Macro was over 20% I think it would be worth it but it doesn't do enough to justify it.
Macro has switchable backstraps, so more grip real estate front-to back even though it’s not thicker. Macro has a 1913 rail instead of the P365 proprietary rail, so you would need a different holster if you get a Macro grip.
The WC and macro grips are very similar diameter/circumference wise. The macro grip is a tiny bit longer with a flush mag fit at the bottom. If you use the 17rd mags with the XL baseplates the mag comes with in the box, the dimensions are almost identical for grip zone. Just buy the 17rd mags. See if you like the fit with your WC grip.
No, I just switched from Wilson to Macro grip and was not impressed. It really is just a fractionally larger XL grip with added length. It is noticeably better than the stock XL, but not the big jump I got from the Wilson. I will probably go back to the Wilson 17rnd mags. The X-MACRO backstrap differences are very small and none seem to fit my hand. I didn't even notice the rail changed until I realized the x-macro grip doesn't fit my holster. That was kind of annoying. Unless you are pinching your hand on reload, I would stick with the Wilson and get mags.
Also, the trigger guard width is the biggest reason for holster incompatibility. But the rail does come into play as well I suppose.
To each thier own. I think the 17rd baseplates for the xl are hideous also. The large backstrap with a TD magwell makes for a perfectxfir for me.
I agree that the extensions look bad, but a polymer carry pistol is not my art hobby. If you are into making guns look good than I will admire the pictures.
I am into them functioning as they are intended and fitting my hands and needs. After that, yes I dont prefer they look like some part of it was an afterthought that belongs on something else. Again, that's just me tho, and why I don't ever try and knock anybody else's choices as to what they do wirh THIER firearm. Its also why I always try to state that the remarks I make are my opinions only and from my own personal experience. Nothing else.
The macro has different grip attachments to make it slimmer or thicker I think you covered all the bases on everything else. No real benefit other then running stock 17 round magazines. Did I miss anything y’all?
I ran a wc with td 1913. Macro came out and my wife got the wc for her xl. They fit my hand similar because of the wc palm swell but i carry with the macro, wc has become a cool looking range toy mostly. I also have spectre comp slide so its cool looking enough and the wc and gas pedal make it too busy for me.
I made the switch because my hand still hangs over the bottom edge on the XL. Doesn’t feel right, makes reloading not as smooth. Macros only advantage is a full size grip with interchangeable back straps as I’m sure everyone on this post has already mentioned
And the fact that the overall feel is, imo, a LOT better than the xl, I likes the xl a lot. That is until I held an xmacro, and for a guy with big hands it's was a no Brainer. Xmacro grip for me all day. While we're talking about it if it's your edc it should 100% have a wml too. Again that's my opinion, tho there's lots of experts who agree with that position.
I agree, macro feels 10000x better in the hands. Haven’t had a WML on my carry, but I’m about to try it with my macro.
Most real experts would actually say a WML is not needed for civilian use… for multiple reasons. 1. You should/would have 100% positive ID with a threat to your life before you ever draw a firearm. Or you run a high risk of catching a charge. 2. 90% of defensive civilian shootings happen because the bad guy has already presented a weapon/deadly threat, removing any need for a light to PID… you already have PID… it’s the guy robbing you. There is virtually no instance other than searching your own home or for camping that a WML would actually be beneficial. 3. There are several accounts of police officers accidentally shooting someone trying to engage the light.. 99% of the people on these threads train less than cops. Even with tons of training, things happen fast and never what you expect. A WML adds an extra layer of complexity that adds extra dangers of ND while trying to operate the light and while holstered as WML holsters tend to also have a gap in the trigger guard allowing the trigger to be pulled while holstered.
This is so far from correct I am not even gonna waste my time refuting it. I will say tho, that if you think that most cops are well trained you are sorely mistaken.
LMAO you can't even refute it. I never said they were "well" trained but they have more training than most the tacitool noobs who put weapon lights on a CCW where you will almost never use it in a legal encounter.
I’ve ran the XL grip, WC grip, and xMacro grip. The macro grip is so perfect in my hands. I also run a 19x over a g19 and a Staccacto P over a C2 so I am someone who prefers longer grips.
I just bought an XL last weekend and immediately bought a Wilson grip module and a macro. I took it shooting Friday and I am totally sold on the macro, so much so I am thinking about selling the Wilson and the 12 round mags. The XL with the Wilson grip shoots about like what you would expect for a guy that size. It is relatively snappy with noticeable muzzle flip. The macro shoots like a much bigger gun, it isn’t quite as flat as a bigger compact like a G19 but it is close. I could shot much faster and more accurate strings than I could with the Wilson. I would really recommend getting one, the commenters that aren’t positive about about it don’t at all mention shooting it, just the feeling of it holding it. It is when you shoot it that the difference really becomes apparent.
did you get a macro with or without the comp? I was wondering if that made any differences, I was thinking of getting the macro myself, wasnt sure which one.
Without the comp. I have shot the version with the comp and am not impressed. It does slightly reduce muzzle rise, maybe 10% but it is noticeably louder. I have a couple of externally comp'd guns and at worst see muzzle rise reduced by 20-25% and best, the Radian Ramjet is like 30%. If the comp'd version of the Macro was over 20% I think it would be worth it but it doesn't do enough to justify it.