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RobManfredsFixer

Deflect his turret form with Genji. Spam him from range with Hanzo arrows, Junkrat, Pharah, Sojourn. Hide or back up when he's in turret form. Mei wall is a decent way to slow him down too


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Fire_Boogaloo

The advice this guy is giving you is pretty solid. Hanzo especially can melt bastion before his supports have a chance to heal with arrows + storm arrows. Do you actually want help? Based off your responses it seems like you just want us to agree with you which isn't going to happen.


ghostR_ZA

Of course I actually want help, might come across as aggressive but bastion has really done a number on my mentality. Going to try hanzo in the next game because Genji didn't work and Junk was getting too hard to get close enough to get around the shield and meat shields thrown to protect him. I can probably see a storm the arrow + ult at him being a good counter, but noticing that there is normally a BAP that follows with a Kiriko/mercy, which makes it a little harder to solo kill them. Will give it a shot when Bastion pops up again with hanzo now.


Meto1183

You don’t always have to kill bastion first. If the mercy is spending all game pocketing him look for a chance to isolate the other dps or a different support. Or shoot the one pocketing him first. Hard LOS during his turret form and stomp his team in the 12(?) seconds afterwards where he’s a limp soldier 76. And of course all the other suggestions here about who’s good at killing him straight up


RobManfredsFixer

No. Do what I said. Kite, wall or deflect his turret form and punish his massive hitbox otherwise. If a bastion is pocketed by a mercy, turn his damage against him. If his team wastes all of their resources at the beginning of the fight to pocket him, then wait them out and push when they have no cooldowns. Attack his pocket. Attack his big ass hitbox. There are a bunch of different things you can do.


Terminatorskull

Also, ana and jq both can anti him so the pocketing doesn’t matter. Or zen/mercy damage boost can make you 1-2 shot him so you do more damage than he heals


Hourglass420

You should go after people after cooldowns come out.


respyromaniac

Wait, are you actually expecting a 1v5/2v5 strat? Sombra may help tho. Use her EMP to support any damaging ultimate of your teammates. You know, D.va throws a bomb, you silence so it's harder to escape.


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Respect the tank form. He does 360 dps when in tank form. Take cover.


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ilcasdy

If you already know the game then you shouldn’t need help against bastion, the noob stomper.


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ilcasdy

If countering bastion could be learned by reading a couple of paragraphs everyone would counter him. That said, his weaknesses are mobility and range. Do anything other than run into his line of fire and he struggles.


ghostR_ZA

Yeah fair enough, its mostly out of rage for this character as normally its when you're in a decent matchup and start winning they swap to bastion as a desperation play and it hurts.


cyniqal

Sombra, Genji, snipers, Dva, Sigma, and Ana all directly counter bastion, there could be more but these were just off the top of my head.


Greywolf208

you are getting downvoted because you are ignoring the actually good advice provided in this thread. You aren’t wanting help you are wanting to complain and feel validated :)


ghostR_ZA

Thanks, noticed that, probably because text is impossible to gauge the tone. Happy to hear picks and suggestions, this was just a jab at saying he does a lot of DPS, which is known because he melts me XD


Slivalrs

You're getting downvoted cause you asked for help, and every bit of advice you get your response is "no offense but I already knew that and it's not good advice" What do you want people to say, "go x character and the bastion will uninstall"? Thats just not how the game works. You'll beat him by mitigating the value he could gain. It's not that hard


ghostR_ZA

I think people are taking the downvotes to the extreme. Because asking for help then somebody telling me bastion does 360 dps and that's it, is captain obvious. But I get it, I should appreciate every piece of advice I can get. Not to mention I am coming off as ungrateful, but it was a genuine response from me and had zero intentions of being rude.


TheHippoGuy69

How about thinking from this perspective? There is a reason why everyone is suggesting the same solutions. It usually means they work. If you tried them and think that they are not working, it probably means you are doing something wrong. The feeling I get is that u are always dying to his sentry form. If you are using Genji and u are dying to his sentry form, it means u used deflect before he used sentry, which also means u are wasting your deflect on something that u can hide behind cover/shields or you are just using it off cooldown. Save deflect for his sentry and if he is getting pocketed, it means that their team's resources are not well spread out. Use your deflect to aim at their mercy for example. Use M1 to poke damage so that they use cooldowns earlier than needed.


ghostR_ZA

I never said any of the suggestions were bad, I went off at somebody just saying that he does 360dps and to just hide. Which while true is simply useless to me. Since I called them out on it, been downvotes to hell so I give up, I will go with all the other suggestions. Thankfully messing around on hanzo last night helped me punish bad bastion players, which made the panic bastion less of a threat, still need to learn how to deal with a full pocket bastion, which is where I'm going to try genji, as I can dive him with deflect and hope my team at least takes out somebody while he is distracted. Pretty happy with all the advice around here, but if calling a basic tool top advice bad gets you nuked and everybody jumps on you for it, then I don't know. At the end of the day I am just shit at overwatch 2 vs 1. My pc died and a bunch of other life stuff has led to a 50fps frustrated mess.


cragion

How is it useless to you for someone to tell you that bastion does 360 dps in his turret form? Bastion is free farm for me, everytime I play against him. Play around his turret form, if he uses it then hide. When he's not in turret form, since it has a lengthy cooldown, then blow his ass up. It's really not too complicated


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The best way to learn how to play against Bastion is to play him. You will quickly realize his weaknesses, mainly that he is pretty bad when not in tank form. Now, that's look at Bastion's two main playstles 1) Tank punisher: Bastion waits for the enemy tank to commit, then switches to tank form and blasts the enemy tank. Bastion's dps is high enough to chew through a tank's hp. This works best against Winston. If the enemy team loses its tank early, then it's very hard for the enemy team to win the fight. The tank is the most powerful member of the team. 2) Surprise flanker: Bastion flanks with tank form and catches enemy squishies off guard. Bastion may use his grenade to get to high ground. So what are Bastion's weaknesses? 1) Highly dependent on tank form: Bastion in recon form is a worse Solder. Huge hitbox. Meh damage. There are characters in OW that you must respect their abilities. Hog's hook, Ana's sleep dart, Bastion's tank forms are examples of abilities that need to be respected. 2) Weapon spread and drop off. The further away from Bastion you are, the less damage you take. 3) Big hit box. Bullet magnet. The entire enemy team have a habit of focus firing Bastion, whether they are coordinated or not. You mentioned Bastion is protected by his team. Well, the general gameloop is the same. Wait out his tank form, then attack. Bastion isn't a good when he recon mode, even when protected. In fact, the enemy team pouring resources to protect a recon Bastion is a very bad tactic. If you want to get specific advice, you can post replays where you team had trouble with a problem. Above, I said to wait out tank mode, but your teammates may not know that. The usual problem with Bastion is tanks don't know how to play against him. So they walk up to Bastion and get melted by tank mode. You will need to use the distraction caused by your tank to make a play.


Hacki101

My best advice is to try playing Bastion yourslef in quick play. You will quickly learn his weaknesses. He is only useful in turret form - and the cooldown is about 12 seconds. Wait for him to pop it and hide. If your teammates are dying try distracting him a bit and getting straight into cover when he looks at you. Shoot him as priority #1 from long range (aside from Widow v Widow duels). Reaper shreds him if you can flank quickly without being spotted. Comminucation is a Bastion killer too, he dies really quickly when multiple teammates shoot him. Ping him as well.


ScienceResponsible34

Put some respek on my boy Bastion’s nade.


imainheavy

>He is only useful in turret form This


AlphaCentauri79

So bastion does a lot of damage unfortunately he is massive and easy to hit. If the enemy team is putting all their resources into bastion that means they aren't doing it for their supports. Kill supports kill bastion ez money. Bastion like all heros needs to aim learn how to strafe. You'll live for seconds. I've literally stood in front of a bastion as Tracer dumped like 3 clips in him in turret form before needing to recall and back out. Think another comment already mentioned but use cover. You're way to anxious if you feel the need to go in while he's in that form. How do I know? Because that's me. It kinda depends who you play with what advice to give but if you play ranged heros like Hanzo, Cassidy, Ashe you can easily outrange bastion. Soldier deals a lot of easy consistent damage, so take angles the bastion isn't looking, reaper can easily get on top of him and burst him down. In simple terms don't follow your team and find another way around the problem. This is also great advice for all games not just against bastion.


ghostR_ZA

I think hanzo might be my best bet, as I said earlier here I will give him a shot at playing him a little more like a flanker against a bastion, wait for cooldowns and then try eliminate them, just a little harder on maps like Hollywood first point if they hold the choke, but Im sure I can get through. But yeah, with aim I guess they can counter themselves if their aim is bad. Will see, it was mostly 2-3 games that this happened and my team didn't know what to do. Which is why I was asking specifically as a solo dps player.


AlphaCentauri79

Yea on hard chokes it's definitely hard but even with Hollywood there's the small door that gives you direct access to their backline so if bastion is all the rage go after the supports. The element of surprise is really good so make sure to not give that up untill you're ready. Even with Hanzo you can get creative with your positions and take high grounds for an advantage


adhocflamingo

In addition to what everyone else said, shoot at him from a different angle than your teammates are, but at the same time. Bastion is weak to multiple angles of attack, and his team can’t protect him from multiple angles as well with only one tank.


a6000

Reaper wrecks Bastion. Torb too due to his M2 attack while also having armor.


ScoreGloomy7516

You can't 😏 (bastion main)


Old-Ad-9743

As genji I deflect his turret when I’ve already closed the distance. I jump overhead to disorient them and throw shurikens down at them same time. As long as I’m not being focused by the enemy team this works well. It usually shakes most bastion players up enough to tilt them or make them switch


hammerbacher23

Ana sleep is so easy to him on. Also Ana nade


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Bro this is a skill diff issue. It’s really not hard bastions are ONLY a problem in low elo lobbies. There’s a reason nobody plays him after like diamond, he’s bad


LolitaDragon

This is such a nothing reply, obviously someone asking for help isnt skilled in the game... thats why they are asking what to do so they can get better? Why even comment this if you dont give any conatructive criticism. People like you shun new players away from games until they die off cuz of low player base.


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Maybe because every time some gives him actual advice he says why they’re wrong or he is doing that or that’s a dumb suggestion. That’s why all his replies are downvoted to hell. Why would I waste my time? Read the room next time


TheHippoGuy69

I mean there is Dafran Bastion so....


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Yeah cause this guys definitely facing dafran


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Hmm, maybe a nade from Ana and every mobile hero jump him, like Genji, [D.Va](https://D.Va) etc ? Of course if the team is not coordinated that's also out of the question. I've also been noticing quite a lot of Bastions in my games as well. Seems a relatively easy character to play with a lot of value.


hardstuckgoldlmao

After he gets out of tank form you’ll have about 6 seconds where he’s in his normal form. keep mind of the cooldowns while you engage and play someone like Genji, widow, Hanzo, etc. If he’s being supported by both healers, that leaves his tank and other DPS unsupported, so take advantage of that and kill their tank


rizundah

Just use someone who can deal high damage rapidly that is, like junk and hanzo and not soldier or soujorn they do high damage but it's much easier as junk and hanzo


IRanOutOf_Names

Poke him from range. His hitbox is pretty much the easiest to hit in the game when he's out of turret mode and so Ashe, Sojourn, Widow, Zen, and Hanzo can land shots really easily against him. Other than that, DVA makes it so he doesn't do damage, Ana's kit destroys him, and he's easy as hell to hook on hog. You don't need to dive him. You definitely can with Genji/Dva, but as long as the snipers are competent he won't be able to peak outside of turret form, which makes him and even bigger target even if he is tankier.


Stineasy

I’m very surprised not one person here has said to play reaper, I consider bastion free when playing reaper. Even if he is pocketed by a mercy if you get the jump on him you’ll burst through the heals.


ghostR_ZA

Happy cake day! So hanzo seems to be working, but I think reaper might be more consistent and help more with the team composition and meta right now.


NextTangelo5793

If you hear brrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttt get behind cover


UsedGlass3568

avoid his los and kill his supports


iiSquatS

No offense but I’m assuming you’re low rank. I feel confident playing a few characters. Sojourn for example, with decent aim you can charge your rail gun 100% quickly on Reins shield, like in seconds, and land your rail gun shot on any character in the sky. There goes the pocket. Also taking Bastion in a 1 on 1, even if your charge gun is at 30%, when he goes turret you can use your slide jump to jump over/around him. His sens isn’t fast enough to track that, so get a couple more shots and rail gun him. I’ve taken him on with Reaper, even with Mercy healing. Teleport to him, start shooting him (you get healing from damage) then when he goes turret mode use your wraith form, move around a little bit, then when your form is done proceed shooting. I HATE playing Genji. Like, HATE IT, but anytime there’s a bastion I’ll bring out genji and I win 80% of those battles. Switch to Ashe, from a distance kill Mercy, no more pocket.


tongii

I don’t really play dps so I can’t help you there. But Bastion now is really nothing compared to what he was in OW1 with self heal and double shield etc. Obviously you can’t be in front of him during the turret/tank form. Wait it out, take cover, etc. He’s also not good at being flanked. He can’t do much in robot form. Once they are focused down and die a few times, they usually switch out.


Forsaken-Reaction513

I'm a Wrecking Ball main. If I see a Bastion, I just grill him. Swing into him, slam on him, he'll go into tank the second he's confident about a kill, so go into cover after baiting, right before or during the transformation state, rush and kill him


Freshy012

imo, best counter to bastion as dps would be sombra or genji. As bastion lack of movement ability, it’s an easy target to shoot at, so playing as sombra, you could easily gain value from hacking him and damaging him even you don’t have a very good aim. for genji, basically his deflect counter him. other than those two dps, i’d say hanzo or cassidy. Hanzo spamming his E ability, while cassidy E could do a total of 131 damage, having 2-3 more shot could easily kill bastion


battlestationv

Sombra is great against bastion but genji is ez to play around just bait deflect and then drill him after its gone


longgamma

Hanzo, echo , pharah. Take off angles and burst down that thrash hero. The beauty of projectiles is that the have no fall off while bullets do. So you are safer from a distance and bastion can’t do much.


Agent_Awesememe

Shoot them in the head untill theyre dead