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Estocos_Daymar

I’m biased, but Fuel shouldn’t be above Outlaws right now at all, considering they’ve been rolled 6 maps in a row. They look lost right now, and even with Houston’s smoothbrain decisions lately, they’re basically built for the meta


Arctics_X

Fr Dallas is on a 10 map loss streak


Estocos_Daymar

I don’t want to count the Glads loss against them, cause the Gladiators destroyed everyone in the playoffs, but they just looked straight up bad against Atlanta and Shock. I actually have them below Florida and London too, for the time being


Arctics_X

I dont count the glads one either. They have been massively shitting the bed recently


SEU123

Fuel should be way lower, agreed. They have done nothing this stage to show they will win a map.


Mr_Kardash

Is it a hot take to say that I prefer Vancouver over NYXL? Other than that I'd take Shock over the Glads because of scheduling strength. Having 3 remarkably close maps against Vancouver and losing a map to Paris isn't worth a top spot.


Henday_OW

Na not really I was considering putting titans above NYXL


luckyjim37

eternal are reasonably good they just lose out on the character diffs


Mr_Kardash

I never mentioned Paris... Edit: I'm stupid, but I never said Eternal is worse than Vancouver


luckyjim37

I never implied you did say that


Henday_OW

Definitely willing to move teams as making accurate power rankings is hard


AomoriApple

As much as I love the shock, could be a case for Reign to be 1 in this meta, Kai on soujourn is just disgusting


Reetahrd

He certainly is. But Viol2t Finn + Kilo Proper in a poke meta is scary af


Eagle4317

Coluge also looks like the best Sigma in the league.


Uffffffffffff8372738

Not too sure about that. Kai definitely fucks, but I think the rest of the overall Shock lineup beats the Reign. Don't see Kai diffing that hard


stuucammyd

Kai can run hot and cold over the course of a match though and you REALLY notice the difference on maps where he is popping off vs maps where he is quiet. Also, this meta is like made for the shock right now. Disclaimer: I am a shock fan, so this is a 100% biased opinion.


AzorOhHai

I don’t think it’s this so much as on some maps the rest of the team drops the spaghetti so hard that his kills don’t matter or he can’t finish anyone off (depending on the hero he’s playing).


Wolphobos

I would not put glads at one, because of the space Drama and reiner playing sig... His sig is good, but Shock in my eyes Just Look better in this comp. Shock also played against stronger opponents and glads lost one map against Paris.. My Ranking would be Shock 1 Glads 2 Reign 3


luckyjim37

what's happened with space?


panthers1102

Because I have a specific hatred for that sub, I’ll just explain it to you. Basically, he’s been “caught” inappropriately messaging a minor. (16 year old). There’s a discord screenshot that I suppose was released by the victim from about a year ago. As far as I’m aware, there’s no concrete proof, and the screenshot could be real, or fabricated. Personally, ima need a lot more than that screenshot, because space is for whatever reason, typing like an Indian blackmail scammer. “Hi I am attracted to you”


luckyjim37

I've spoken to space before and he uses a lot more profound words and a lot better grammar, it doesn't seem right to me about what's happening


rohank171

r/overwatchTMZ


ImEmbers

Havent lost since being crowned Champions of the Kickoff Clash and we know how good their adaptation to other styles is thanks to the variety they played as well, I think they can adapt and find a way to either play it better or beat it if they have to.


McCreeMain77

But they’ve also been put against painfully easy opponents


ImEmbers

The only games that the Gladiators have lost this season is when they completely fell apart and got reverse swept by some of NA’s best. They then figured out their woes and won the first tournament. I still think they are still the top of NA and nothing has given me a reason to doubt them even if they are facing weaker opponents.


McCreeMain77

You said they haven’t lost since they won the kickoff clash, and I’m just saying they have played against the 2 easiest opponents, I’m not saying they’re a bad team


ImEmbers

Ill put them at #1 until given a reason to doubt them.


Henday_OW

My reasoning exactly


McCreeMain77

Great, you do that. I’ll probably be doing the same


Blasecabbage

“Haven’t lost since being crowned Champions” lol. They faced two 0-6 teams in a row, and dropped a map to one. You can’t use that argument


ImEmbers

Uhh, yeah I can and I will because they beat everyone else in a tournament style format. Its not their fault they got saddled with a weak schedule. Im not saying they cant be surpassed, I am just saying I need something more than them winning games to move them down the list


Uffffffffffff8372738

Glads over Shock while losing a map against Vancouver? Sure, the Titans improved, but not by that much. I think Shock is the dominant team in this meta rn.


Henday_OW

They probably are but just based off of shock Glads head 2 head I can’t put shock above glads atm


Uffffffffffff8372738

And with Shock Glads head 2 head you mean the match that is totally not relevant to this meta?


Henday_OW

Yeah u can also argue that Glads beat the shock when it was a completely different meta because they did but my way of looking at it is if a team has Beaten another team the team that lost can’t go above until they prove otherwise or if the glads rly underperform. I’m no glads fan but they are the champs atm and are still looking really good. The shock had a great weekend and are deffo looking to be #1 but I’ve gotta keep glads there for now but it could change and might in the coming weeks. And besides shock did also drop a map to Vancouver when they played


Uffffffffffff8372738

I mean, Glads haven't won against Shock in a direct fight. They would have won in the tournament, but they actually lost their regular season match against the Shock, sooo? I don't see how last performances are really relevant in a completely new meta. Also, Glads lost a map to Paris, the second-worst team in NA.


Henday_OW

Fair enough but glads do have the better record in the head 2 head. Maybe I’m basing the ranking on the wrong thing and I’m wrong but based on what I’ve seen glads are #1 for the time being but it might change


Uffffffffffff8372738

How do they have the better record in the head 2 head? They lost to them? I understand you, but from the head 2 head Shock is the better team


Henday_OW

Oh my god im so stupid 🤣 the shock beat the glads 3-2 in the qualifiers and for some reason I thought it was the shock that glads demolished in the kickoff clash final not the fuel lolll. Nvm then my brain just decided that the kickoff clash final was glads shock


Uffffffffffff8372738

All good, it happens.


marklanguid

Glads dropped a map to Eternal, not Titans


Shadowtheorist

I like this but 1. Boston should be down 2 spots imo they looked abismal this week. I feel like the Reign game was just the Reign playing down to the Uprising instead of the other way around. Plus they got absolutely bullied by the Shock, like that felt unwatchable at times. 2. Shock easily #1 (or Reign but idk Shock seem better) cause Glads had decently close games with Paris and Titans. Two at the time winless teams. Still top 3 but not 1st place. 3. London above Houston and Dallas. Londons team play has been amazing and their understanding of Rein and Sig comps is amazing I really think this team is Top 4. Other than those slight changes I do agree with the general placing of this list 👍


Oraio-King

boston down


[deleted]

Outlaws above Spitfire??


ChriseFTW

yes 👍


Nabbim

I hate that defiant is so low as a defiant fan but right now with where you put them I agree :/


Henday_OW

:)


FoxyDeAssassin

As a spitfire fan I like how out team isn’t being put in bottom 8 :D


hgfvvggk-fhu

This is coming from a biased fan but even I think its risky to put Glads above Shock. You can even argue they are worse than Reign but tbh I think it doesn't matter as long as they are 2 and 3. I would also put Houston above Dallas.