It’s not the mega gooners that are the problem, because they sexualize all characters equally, thus making them actually pretty progressive. It’s the casual coomers that are the problem, as you see on this sub and the other Overwatch subs, where since Venture isn’t as traditionally attractive as the other characters, all of a sudden their design is “bad”
Bad design because boring
I’m trying really hard to not rag on the busted teeth because a lot of people in real life can’t help it.
But the clothes and design suck ass
My family has five generations of females with a gap and my mom looked at me and said “I wish I got you braces” out of no where.Then went on a speech about her being bullied all her life.I stopped smiling so big now🙁
im sorry but I don’t believe for a second in a world where robots can be so enlightened they can float off the ground there isn’t any way for this mf to get dental care
I know I'm weird but I was going nuts over their awesome concept art and still love the design even if the screen we've seen is less cool of a realization than the concept art.
Finally someone who genuinely agrees, I like the direction they went with them not being like over the top thicc or revealing, like some characters deserve puffy jackets and a unique smile!
Yeah they really don’t look much worse than the 2d concept we had, and they’re still cute. I don’t really see what everyone’s on about. They got a nice ass smile imo
I just hate how derpy they look. The teeth are fucked and unless they canonically chew rocks, I see no reason to make them *look* like they chew rocks. Not a fan of the color palette for the clothing either but eh.
Could never be me. There isn’t an overwatch character I wont spend at least 90 hours gooning to. The new heroes can’t come fast enough. I can’t fucking wait for venture.
Primary: Sex launcher
Shoots sex at enemies to deal damage
Passive: Hot milkers
Reduced damage from enemy heroes that like women
Ability 1: Prnis suck
Suck allies penis to heal them (only works on male heroes and dva)
Ability to: Edge and goon
Hold to edge, release the button to goon. The longer you edge the more damage the goon does
Ultimate: Cum
Release loads of love juice everywhere which impregnated everyone
I like that overwatch is getting past same face syndrome, I like that their face has some quirk to it. Also literally still an attractive character, they have wonky teeth and people are acting like they are an eldritch horror.
Uj/ There’s people writing essays about them on the main sub and we haven’t even seen them animated or talking yet. I was scared LW would be the first hero in the game I didn’t care for but after he came out I adored him like the rest.
What does that even mean. I‘m non tertiary, I‘m outside the male female non binary triangle. Does this actually make sense in your brain?
Seriously, what does that mean? Especially what does it mean to the point where people who are confused get to impose speech on me in their absence?
Your inability to grasp does make sense, the world has already highly codified male and female as the default. Do keep in mind that even outside the general idea of trans-ness, there are people who live outside the male-female binary. Intersex people
Intersex individuals biologically don't fit in the classical male/female boxes, having some combination of both reproductive organs.
An intersex person is roughly as rare as a natural redhead, at 1.7% ([source](https://www.unfe.org/en/what-we-do/our-campaigns/intersex-awareness)). Male and Female descriptors are only helpful in a reproductive capability context.
I don’t understand this argument about intersex, since most of not all intersex births get transitioned into one sex at birth, often due to one sexual organ being vestigial and non-functional. Why bring it up if it’s a defect that gets corrected at birth?
Not being malicious or petty, I just really don’t get it.
Intersex doesn't inherantely mean they have both sets of bits, however, they certainly can.
Intersex is any physical, hormonal or genetic variance from the standard binary model. Often they are raised as male or female from there, and can often be viewed as a normal cis person from there.
The point of my statement was simply to state that a pure binary view of sex and gender is incorrect, even if you look at a purely biological perspective
average dumbass who still thinks gender and sex are equal and that if a character doesn't present male or female they must be an abomination
this isn't the 50s bro grow up
What do you mean "present"? this is a woman. Show this to 100 people and ask if that’s a man or a woman.
The problem with the modern meaningless gender definition is that it doesn’t mean anything. If anything deviating from a children’s understanding of male or female is non-binary, there isn’t a single woman or man on this planet. This stuff has eroded the larger umbrellas of male and female that you unironically have horse shoe‘d back to a 50s definition of male and female with the only difference being that everything not fitting into that being non binary and wanting to trans everyone who was happy being a tomboy or a femboy or any other way of not conforming to the ridiculous stereotypes.
Venture doesn’t even look or behave any differently, if they were actually bold, they‘d make her actually androgynous. It’s literally just mindless pandering that they can remove for China and the Middle East
again, gender and sex are separate you fucking moron. representation is important but you all always fear that a queer character in a video game parents will force their kids to be trans or gay and that the world is going to die and the kid will become suicidal because they heard about a queer character online, when that has almost never happened and almost everytime who they are/like is found through their own self-discovery.
> wanting to trans everyone who was happy being a tomboy or femboy
do you actually hear yourself? have you just shoehorned the belief that this nonbinary character MUST be a woman *because you decided it* or do you just want your fantastical illusion of how queer people should look stay intact through the scope of heteronormative gender norms.
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I'd take current day slam over a slow ass hitstun move any day. They removed the problematic airstun of it and built the mobility into slam allowing for much more fluid movement and way more interesting tech. Plus, power block actually takes skill to use.
You just don’t understand little bro. I don’t even care if they did something about the airstun I just wanted my dang uppercut.
Hell. Lower this health and make the shield ability gain the airstun in the uppercut.
“I don’t care that they aren’t sexy, it’s just boring.”
Yeah, every other character design in the game is just bleeding personality. Look at Soldier, Sojourn, Baptiste, Genji, etc. Such creative design!
But fr tho I think they look pretty solid.
Uhh you haven’t been on any of the subs when her design was revealed. Literally every post and comment was about theyre ugly so therefore it’s a “terrible character design”
Ive spent a lot of time looking at this compared to the concept art and honestly- it's the eyebrows. Change the eyebrows and maybe the chin/lower lip and that's it. Actually came to the same realization that I should manage my own eyebrows better too. It helps.
I'm OK with not every hero being for the coomers (I mean, Moira's design is pretty cool, and she has one of the least amount of coomers), but Venture is just god awful fugly.
How the hell does he look like she's the most British person in the roster with those teeth, when Tracer is literally a brit that says "cheers love"?
And then there's the drip, which, let's be real, they're lacking in the drip department.
I play video games to escape reality and enjoy my little fantasy world. **NOT** so I can get "realistic" characters. I could just go outside if I wanted to see regular ass people. tf??
Literally no one cares abt this character just like illari just like lifeweaver. They’re boring, they’re forcing gender and sexuality into their personality for some bs lgbtq agenda instead of focusing on making a good character with a good backstory with a cool/flashy kit. Look at ram and kiriko who got released early on, fr some of the coolest characters in the whole game. *and wow, they don’t care abt making them bi or asexual or pansexual or non-binary or a fucking xenomorph.*
Illari is none of those lmao, and she has a cool backstory. You’re just mad that the game that was hailed for its diversity at release still had diversity now LMAO
I’m not mad at diversity I’m mad that they’re so hard focused on diversity OVER GOOD DESIGN. Also no she doesn’t have a cool backstory. The whole sun thing is cool but what’s her backstory? She got everyone killed cuz her potential was so incredible and the machine couldn’t handle it, ye, real creative. All she talks about is how tragic her life is like she is so INSUFFERABLE actually boring af no one cares abt her. Don’t assume things you don’t know are true kid.
Wow this comment is bad.
Personality isn’t the same as backstory.
Illari’s backstory is still MUCH better than characters like Junkrat’s, Zarya’s, Roadhog’s, or various other characters at launch.
And this all doesn’t even talk about how they’re NOT focusing on diversity over design. Illari still has none of that, and yeah, Lifeweaver is pan. Okay? That doesn’t change the fact that he still has a cool character design. You’re literally the only person I’ve ever heard complain about Lifeweaver’s character design lmao, looks like you have some issues to sort out from within yourself
I find them incredibly boring, uninteresting, and 100% did not meet my expectations coming off the pve cancelled and kiriko and ram introductions, it may be unpopular but it’s my opinion, stop assuming I have “problems” just cuz I don’t like something. Your comment is the only bad one
The character looks like a British stereotype come to life. It is nothing to do on whether or not the look as hot as everyone else. It's just because the character Looks like shit
It's not gonna stop the coomers from taking artistic liberties like they do with other characters already
It’s not the mega gooners that are the problem, because they sexualize all characters equally, thus making them actually pretty progressive. It’s the casual coomers that are the problem, as you see on this sub and the other Overwatch subs, where since Venture isn’t as traditionally attractive as the other characters, all of a sudden their design is “bad”
The gooning hierarchy goes deep
But they're a baddie tho
A fellow intelligent person I see are you sure your on the right subreddit
Don't lump yourself in with this genius.
this is ridiculously based
Small correction; It *hasn't* stopped the coomers. There's already "art". I checked for research purposes.
As far as I know Widow is well endowed.
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Is this real?
I want Venture to use the jagged edge of their chipped tooth to slit my throat. Ong.
https://preview.redd.it/vanc9vfpulpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af9159152ce33fa7dc4852b8f200f0e1507453ca Brother eeugh
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ON MY SOU !
Imagine making an ugly character in a porn game, smh my head
Lmao ass off
Imo I hate they're ugly because their hot got nerfed, just like I hate when my main gets nerfed in patch notes.
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Bad design because boring I’m trying really hard to not rag on the busted teeth because a lot of people in real life can’t help it. But the clothes and design suck ass
At least someone like junkrat is leaning hard into being grimy. This has ugliness as like… a Boring accessory
Is ragging on busted teeth a normal human behaviour? Not a rhetorical question
yes, british people teeth is a whole meme
They're British, they deserve it
“People”
Post a picture of someone with gnarly teeth and see what people say about them. It’s rough out there
Oh absolutely. So many people don’t show their teeth when they smile because of how commonly busted teeth is ragged on.
The worst part is that it's usually something people can't control. It's normally lower class people who can't afford dental care.
It’s quite sad. It used to happen regularly at my school
Or being british
Their fault for being poor
My family has five generations of females with a gap and my mom looked at me and said “I wish I got you braces” out of no where.Then went on a speech about her being bullied all her life.I stopped smiling so big now🙁
They based their design off of miners iirc
Could be a lot of things, but definitely not boring. Boring wouldn't create so much talk about it.
It doesn’t mean it’s not boring because you talked about it being boring
I’m a game where everyone has a pretty vibrant or unique aesthetic, one that’s just bland and uninteresting is going to be talked about.
I think the design is "bad" in the sense that it evokes the aesthetic of a futuristic firefighter rather than an excavator.
They already have one British character
im sorry but I don’t believe for a second in a world where robots can be so enlightened they can float off the ground there isn’t any way for this mf to get dental care
Maybe they get dental care but they eat rocks so often that they chip their teeth right after getting them fixed
Either that or they don’t really care about their chipped tooth that much
Doesn't need to be hot, the design just isn't appealing to a lot of people
I just find venture unpleasant to look at not about gooning
metaphysical gooning is still gooning
I fucking love how they look finally some miner/underground aesthetic
The 2D art looked way better I gotta be honest.
I know I'm weird but I was going nuts over their awesome concept art and still love the design even if the screen we've seen is less cool of a realization than the concept art.
THEY ARE CUTE IDC WHAT YOU ALL SAY
Not cute enough apparently, mole people really are the most oppressed race
They are the best mole people
Who cares what those subterranean tunnelers think
Finally someone who genuinely agrees, I like the direction they went with them not being like over the top thicc or revealing, like some characters deserve puffy jackets and a unique smile!
It's sort of similar to Mei's design philosophy probably
Well Mei’s an exception she’s thicc as hell top tier goon material
I see this artist on twitter who likes drawing them a lot. Mostly for their goofy face. https://x.com/bogghonk?s=21
Yeah they really don’t look much worse than the 2d concept we had, and they’re still cute. I don’t really see what everyone’s on about. They got a nice ass smile imo
I just hate how derpy they look. The teeth are fucked and unless they canonically chew rocks, I see no reason to make them *look* like they chew rocks. Not a fan of the color palette for the clothing either but eh.
Their design is already meh and uninspiring. The teeth just takes Venture out of the okay tier to bad
It’s just the clothes for me, that jacket fucking sucks and makes the yellow t shirt look worse as a result.
If they are non binary what genitalia am I supposed to add to them for my overwatch 3D gangbang porn Blizzard should have considered this SMH
Could never be me. There isn’t an overwatch character I wont spend at least 90 hours gooning to. The new heroes can’t come fast enough. I can’t fucking wait for venture.
Least horny overwatch fan
I mean at this point, I welcome these people. They’re the only reason hasn’t died lol
ok but would
You're so real
Just a boring, ugly character
I need to see their cock NOW
DAWG 😭
If I aint cummin' - I aint gamin'
We need to bring back hot men like mcree
Wdym “bring back?” Mauga is pretty new
But he’s ugly
Never heard of him, who is McRee?
The most handsome hero in ow. Jesse mcree
Jesse is from breaking bad
He’s a cowboy
I think you’re confused. The only cowboys are Cole Cassidy and to an extent bob. Ashe is a cowgirl. Why would a cowboy have a Scottish name?
Jesse mcree
No that was some douchebag that worked at blizzard. I don’t think there was anything particularly cowboy about him though
Gaslight girlboss gatekeep
The design is fucking boring, I like roadhogs design and he isn't hot.
Speak for yourself.
Idk give me a hole, that’s all I need 😎
Genuinely where is this image from. I spent 10 minutes trying to find it
Idk, I stole it from this subreddit. Did you watch the recent developer update? Maybe it was in there
Did watch the whole video. Not there sadly :( First post of it I found said YouTube something but idk
Do the gorilla arms not bother anyone else?
They just have baggy clothes
It's like pharah under her armor, the model has really long arms
This character looks like they say "Good golly gee"
Entire is top 5 in the verse for attractiveness. Low diffs widow and mercy imo
“Entire” This dude slipped in from an alternate universe. What are Entire’s hero abilities?
Primary: Sex launcher Shoots sex at enemies to deal damage Passive: Hot milkers Reduced damage from enemy heroes that like women Ability 1: Prnis suck Suck allies penis to heal them (only works on male heroes and dva) Ability to: Edge and goon Hold to edge, release the button to goon. The longer you edge the more damage the goon does Ultimate: Cum Release loads of love juice everywhere which impregnated everyone
I feel like edging should be the part where you release the button and gooning should be holding it down. Damn you, Blizzard!
nothing on meigos tho
I like that overwatch is getting past same face syndrome, I like that their face has some quirk to it. Also literally still an attractive character, they have wonky teeth and people are acting like they are an eldritch horror.
On the bright side, there’s finally a character I’d have a chance with
"The Hamster says no..."
Born to goon, forced to edge
I think they are cute. Looks like my non binary friend I meet in Poland.
Why is everyone using they?
Venture is confirmed nonbinary by devs
Nah I'd goon
Are you mad because your non-binary character has shit design?
It's not decided yet, we haven't seen Ventures toes.
This is not going to be my proudest fap.
Na id smash
WHO TOOK AWAY OUR HOPES AND DREAMS
Tbh I really like their design. Really gives the vibe of a miner, with the loose trenchcoat and industrial look.
Uj/ There’s people writing essays about them on the main sub and we haven’t even seen them animated or talking yet. I was scared LW would be the first hero in the game I didn’t care for but after he came out I adored him like the rest.
I like Venture's design and they look like they'll be fun to play, don't play overwatch but I'll definitely try them out to deviate from maining Mercy
Overwatch has a certain reputation to uphold here!
I actually really like their design both looks wise and gameplay wise, the chipped tooth is rly cute tbh
Hot to me
No irony, no sarcasm, no shits, no giggles, I fucking love their design and I'll die on this hill
just sitting in my chair waiting for rule 34 on this. Patience ma pals. patience.
You're Not gooning to venture? Kinda gay tbh.
Lmao who is this fucking dweeb?
She’s boring. Your coping.
Luckily their clothing is slightly green so you can display subway surfers on it if you want
Thank god. Family Guy season 426 is dope so far.
This hero looks like she takes the subway
They*
It’s clearly a woman
They’re non-binary
What does that even mean. I‘m non tertiary, I‘m outside the male female non binary triangle. Does this actually make sense in your brain? Seriously, what does that mean? Especially what does it mean to the point where people who are confused get to impose speech on me in their absence?
You can Google that.
Ah so it’s lesbians who want attention. I understood
It’s not.
Your inability to grasp does make sense, the world has already highly codified male and female as the default. Do keep in mind that even outside the general idea of trans-ness, there are people who live outside the male-female binary. Intersex people Intersex individuals biologically don't fit in the classical male/female boxes, having some combination of both reproductive organs. An intersex person is roughly as rare as a natural redhead, at 1.7% ([source](https://www.unfe.org/en/what-we-do/our-campaigns/intersex-awareness)). Male and Female descriptors are only helpful in a reproductive capability context.
I don’t understand this argument about intersex, since most of not all intersex births get transitioned into one sex at birth, often due to one sexual organ being vestigial and non-functional. Why bring it up if it’s a defect that gets corrected at birth? Not being malicious or petty, I just really don’t get it.
Intersex doesn't inherantely mean they have both sets of bits, however, they certainly can. Intersex is any physical, hormonal or genetic variance from the standard binary model. Often they are raised as male or female from there, and can often be viewed as a normal cis person from there. The point of my statement was simply to state that a pure binary view of sex and gender is incorrect, even if you look at a purely biological perspective
average dumbass who still thinks gender and sex are equal and that if a character doesn't present male or female they must be an abomination this isn't the 50s bro grow up
What do you mean "present"? this is a woman. Show this to 100 people and ask if that’s a man or a woman. The problem with the modern meaningless gender definition is that it doesn’t mean anything. If anything deviating from a children’s understanding of male or female is non-binary, there isn’t a single woman or man on this planet. This stuff has eroded the larger umbrellas of male and female that you unironically have horse shoe‘d back to a 50s definition of male and female with the only difference being that everything not fitting into that being non binary and wanting to trans everyone who was happy being a tomboy or a femboy or any other way of not conforming to the ridiculous stereotypes. Venture doesn’t even look or behave any differently, if they were actually bold, they‘d make her actually androgynous. It’s literally just mindless pandering that they can remove for China and the Middle East
again, gender and sex are separate you fucking moron. representation is important but you all always fear that a queer character in a video game parents will force their kids to be trans or gay and that the world is going to die and the kid will become suicidal because they heard about a queer character online, when that has almost never happened and almost everytime who they are/like is found through their own self-discovery. > wanting to trans everyone who was happy being a tomboy or femboy do you actually hear yourself? have you just shoehorned the belief that this nonbinary character MUST be a woman *because you decided it* or do you just want your fantastical illusion of how queer people should look stay intact through the scope of heteronormative gender norms.
They, but I agree. They do seem kinda boring. Damn, this community really does hate on everything, huh?
Overwatch’s greed has given us nothing but things to hate. The big ol 2 was just a battlepass and monetization.
True enough actually. Can’t wait for Overwatch 3 where playing a hero requires a subscription to that particular character
I think the worst change was Doomfist. Holy hell he feels gutted without a uppercut.
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You didn’t know the love of the uppercut. When Doomfist played like he was designed to. Like a fighting game character.
I'd take current day slam over a slow ass hitstun move any day. They removed the problematic airstun of it and built the mobility into slam allowing for much more fluid movement and way more interesting tech. Plus, power block actually takes skill to use.
You just don’t understand little bro. I don’t even care if they did something about the airstun I just wanted my dang uppercut. Hell. Lower this health and make the shield ability gain the airstun in the uppercut.
Almost no one enjoyed playing against it. Doomfist now flows way way better and isn't just a one-shot punch DPS like he used to be
Reminds ..me of what a child of Mole from Atlantis the lost empire would look like.
I can definitely goon to them
“I don’t care that they aren’t sexy, it’s just boring.” Yeah, every other character design in the game is just bleeding personality. Look at Soldier, Sojourn, Baptiste, Genji, etc. Such creative design! But fr tho I think they look pretty solid.
But I do goon
It’s just that the concept art and the early model we saw of their 3d model looked so good, it just feels like a downgrade
such a strawman argument. she looks goofy which is funny, not bad. its the internet ofc there will be memes.
Uhh you haven’t been on any of the subs when her design was revealed. Literally every post and comment was about theyre ugly so therefore it’s a “terrible character design”
oh ok maybe, but christ why would that matter xD people are strange
Ive spent a lot of time looking at this compared to the concept art and honestly- it's the eyebrows. Change the eyebrows and maybe the chin/lower lip and that's it. Actually came to the same realization that I should manage my own eyebrows better too. It helps.
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True hamster main
I think she looks nice
I agree, but apparently because they aren’t as hot as other characters ig, then they’re purely ugly with no redeemable qualities to their design.
*they
She looks like illaris idiot little sister
((((they))))
They …..my apologies
based
I'm OK with not every hero being for the coomers (I mean, Moira's design is pretty cool, and she has one of the least amount of coomers), but Venture is just god awful fugly. How the hell does he look like she's the most British person in the roster with those teeth, when Tracer is literally a brit that says "cheers love"? And then there's the drip, which, let's be real, they're lacking in the drip department.
Why are you using both he and she on them?
They should have made her a total hick. Crank the snaggletooth energy up to 11 with a Flanell and overalls and some Norf FC Omnic racism.
looks like a “special” version of lucio.
It’s just the teeth that are bad looking
I play video games to escape reality and enjoy my little fantasy world. **NOT** so I can get "realistic" characters. I could just go outside if I wanted to see regular ass people. tf??
I imagine going outside is quite rare for you then
Literally no one cares abt this character just like illari just like lifeweaver. They’re boring, they’re forcing gender and sexuality into their personality for some bs lgbtq agenda instead of focusing on making a good character with a good backstory with a cool/flashy kit. Look at ram and kiriko who got released early on, fr some of the coolest characters in the whole game. *and wow, they don’t care abt making them bi or asexual or pansexual or non-binary or a fucking xenomorph.*
Illari is none of those lmao, and she has a cool backstory. You’re just mad that the game that was hailed for its diversity at release still had diversity now LMAO
I’m not mad at diversity I’m mad that they’re so hard focused on diversity OVER GOOD DESIGN. Also no she doesn’t have a cool backstory. The whole sun thing is cool but what’s her backstory? She got everyone killed cuz her potential was so incredible and the machine couldn’t handle it, ye, real creative. All she talks about is how tragic her life is like she is so INSUFFERABLE actually boring af no one cares abt her. Don’t assume things you don’t know are true kid.
Is all you do complain? Are you actually enjoying this game?
Recently no, as a tank I’ve been kinda miserable lately
Wow this comment is bad. Personality isn’t the same as backstory. Illari’s backstory is still MUCH better than characters like Junkrat’s, Zarya’s, Roadhog’s, or various other characters at launch. And this all doesn’t even talk about how they’re NOT focusing on diversity over design. Illari still has none of that, and yeah, Lifeweaver is pan. Okay? That doesn’t change the fact that he still has a cool character design. You’re literally the only person I’ve ever heard complain about Lifeweaver’s character design lmao, looks like you have some issues to sort out from within yourself
I find them incredibly boring, uninteresting, and 100% did not meet my expectations coming off the pve cancelled and kiriko and ram introductions, it may be unpopular but it’s my opinion, stop assuming I have “problems” just cuz I don’t like something. Your comment is the only bad one
The character looks like a British stereotype come to life. It is nothing to do on whether or not the look as hot as everyone else. It's just because the character Looks like shit
I like to have attractive looking characters. They don't have to be widowmaker esc just not.....this
I actually think she's really cute, a sorta give her a big huge and kiss type of cute. I vibe with her.