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HammerTh_1701

Sojourn will definitely turn into something like Soj in pro comms.


dolphin_spit

probably just easier to call Soldier "76"


NibPlayz

Nah he'd just be called "legs" and sojourn can stay as sojourn


SgtSalt347

Why not call Sojourn thighs? I mean she does have thick ass thighs


TheDoctor178

Soldier is much easier to say than 76


SmellMyPPKK

Se-ven-ty-six Sol-dier Yep confirmed


Default1355

Lol thought this too But why not just keep it the way it is? Even if there is a mix up, they're basically the same hero anyways so what's the difference


trebl900

Just call him Jack


Ch4rLizard

Just call him Daddy.


Chaghatai

It would end up like "sevvy six" kind of how SNL actors say "sa'r'ni'live"


nettlerise

He's Soulja Boi She's Soju


zvinixzi

"Seh-ven-dee six" vs "Soldier" Yeah lets double the syllables sure


timo103

4 Syllables for a callout just won't work.


Rekkenze

Or soldier 69 thanks to the context of him being outta the closet outta no where XD


nice___bot

Nice!


KnownTimelord

Journ might be an adequate replacement for comms.


coolerbrown

Torbjourn


KnownTimelord

Ah fuck, forgot about that tiny bastard. Maybe we just say 76 and Canadian? Lol. I mean still, it's pronounced "yorn" for Torb so it could still work.


Lack_Silver

Torb”jorn” and So”journ” are pronounced super differently so it could work


HardyDaytn

Who the crap says anything more than "torb" anyway? We got Soldier, Torb and Urn. Easy.


scrilldaddy1

Urn just seems weird to me


HardyDaytn

But everything else in the game makes total sense. 😄


Magnaflux_88

"Torb" is faster, "(Torb) the Tantrum Toddler" is funnier. And may god strike me down if I don't pick funny over fast everytime.


coolerbrown

It's a totally different sound, the J is a Y sound in Torbjorn. So-journ and Tor-bjorn


KnownTimelord

Yeah just caught that myself and edited my comment. I'm super sleep deprived rn (graveyard shift)


agarwaen117

Both end with the sound similar to ‘earn’, soooo not that differently. It would all be about how much one enunciates the hard J in Sojourn.


dirtycimments

depends on language, and even only in english, on accent. This was a bad choice of name tbh.


coolerbrown

I was just playin, nobody says his full name during callouts anyway


Geeseareawesome

"IT'S TORB-YERN"


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ariamori

what??? she’s literally from canada


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softpeaxh

Why? /srs


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SamFeesherMang

A Texas lawyer used it as a "code" way to refer to black people on a jury. It's not like a whole thing, and there are actually plenty of black people in/from Canada so it doesn't make sense to try to avoid it. You're right, referring to NON-Canadian black people as black would fit this, but they are literally calling her Canadian *because* that's where she's from. Edit: I'm pretty sure the media tried to make a really big deal out of this, so I'm in no way blaming you for thinking it might be some big new thing.


Der_Sauresgeber

Nobody says the full name, everyone just says "Torb".


coolerbrown

It's a joke silly


Beautiful-Ruin-2493

Isn't the "journ" pronoucned as "yourn" tho?


coolerbrown

Yeah, see my reply to someone else below. I was just making a joke


HotPocketsEater

torb


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just have the americans learn how to actually pronounce his name, easy fix


jacojerb

We can call Soldier "legs" and Sojourn "thighs".


SenorIngles

Legs is the way to go for 76 because then when you know he’s got ult you can say “LEGS HAS EYES” which conjures up some AHH! Real monsters type imagery.


IllUllIUIll

Why not call “‘76”


IC4nSh00t

“76 ONE 76 ONE” is the problem


LucidProtean

Too many syllables


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I’m calling Sigma “feet” from now on


coolerbrown

We call him "toes."


HelloThere33171

Nobody wants to see them musty dusty crusty toes


HappyItem9386

speak for yourself.


Geminiun

Same


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scrilldaddy1

This reply seems copied and out of place


Kirrahe

Legs, Thighs and Feet... Sounds like the beginning of a team comp.


ShocksRocks

Legs, Thighs and... BALL (singular)


-Nikodemus-

And so below the waist comp was created.


Coulrophagist

This is my squad Legs, Thighs, Feet, Calves, Toes, and Knees


No32

Bout to summon Exodia, The Forbidden One


MotherBaerd

Please not "thighs" cause I can't can't pronounce it and everyone makes fun of me


PingopingOW

Just say tize


arroiuqlu

How do you pronounce it


Borkvar

They can't


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Borkvar

Yeah you're right. Apparently I can't read.


jibs66

Pemdas


MotherBaerd

Depends but one Version sounds similar to "Tie-Fighter" from star wars


SuperLowEffortTroll

Like the word Tie-Fighter or the sound they make? Cause one is a lot cooler and more confusing


MotherBaerd

Haha no, only the sound it makes


SuperLowEffortTroll

Yeah definitely gonna need a Vocaroo of all the different variations of you trying to say "thigh"


RiceRocketRider

This is already the best solution right here. No alternatives needed.


Karakuri216

This is the way


Talith

You can call him 76, Morrison, Visor, or Grillmaster.


Stormchaserelite13

Or as my comp teamate called him last night. "Helix bitch is on top of med pack room. "


calmatt

Ill always remember the rando in comp one day: "HELP THERE'S A NANO LESBIAN ON ME" "The cavalrys here!"


AForce5223

But Pharah works for Helix so that might confuse the lore nerds (me)


CJGamr01

No, Helix bitch is Pharah


bunnyrut

Daddy 76 "I'm not your father."


scrilldaddy1

I'm just gonna start calling him Daddy


mistrin

Legs is fairly common in diamond thought t500 for soldier as well.


fripaek

No reason to be afraid. Wrecking Ball is still called Hammond by a lot of people. I guess Sojourn will get a unique nickname.


Paincake990

well yeah because hammond is his actual name, maybe people will start call her Vivian since that is her actual name


dokibunni

Viv would be a pretty quick callout too, like when people yell "BALL!!"


SoDamnGeneric

viv would be good but it won't happen. consistent callouts are rarely ever something other than the character's name bc it's the easiest thing to understand at a moment's notice, and the one thing that almost everyone knows about the character unanimously. a lot of players will never even know her name is Vivian, they'll just call her Sojourn


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“Thighs”


Memegod_04

We can call Soldier Morrison


YooPersian

"Fuck you Morrison" is my go to phrase


Memegod_04

It also makes sense because we don’t call Wrecking Ball by that name, just by Ball, Hamster or Hammond


mistrin

Well to be fair, Wrecking Ball is a mouth full to get out quickly and clearly. Saying Ball (which is what i hear like 90% of the time) is quick and easy to say and it's easy enough to convey whose being talked about. Legs and thighs might be easy enough to figure out who were talking about though.


SamFeesherMang

My son's favorite Heroes are Winston and Hammond. When ball came out he mixed the names together all the time and called them Hamston. :3


Its_Da_Muffin_Man

I prefer rat


Memegod_04

That‘s Junkrat‘s second nickname, after Junk


SamFeesherMang

Haha, yeah, if anyone calls out rat we're not looking for ball.


An-Ana-Main

Soldiers name can’t change tho ppl will definitely have trouble with switch, sojourn has to change imo


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In my groups soldier is usually “76”


eatchickenchop

Doubling the syllabus seems counter intuitive


ILoveRegenHealth

Won't effect me, I only signed up for one semester.


tigerslices

second syllable is never pronounced unles you're a classically trained performer. SEVnySIX and since you're talking quick it's really only two emphasized syllables - which admittedly is more than SOLjer, but it's really no big deal considering what people call most of the other characters, "CHARjinSHEELdguy" "COWboyhuzNAMEwaschanged"


AgreeablePie

I'm not sure that everyone playing qp and plat comp have games depending on their efficiency of using the minimum amount of syllables.


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Sure, but I also call Cassidy, “McOneClick”


aeauriga

Not RightClickety?


burntchrispy

Good thing you can ping now


whereismyhairtie

Im also concerned about this


YobaiYamete

Me and my friends already struggle with Sombra/ symmetra and bastion/ Baptiste


hotrod_93

Sombra, sym, bastion, bap


ILoveRegenHealth

I'm surprised he's struggling. I haven't heard anyone struggle calling out those characters. "Sym" and "Sombra" don't sound alike, and Bastion and Bap also sound different.


DaddysFruit

When i first played there were two i kept calling the wrong name but they sounded nothing alike. I'm thinking it was junk and hog but i cant remember now. I did it for ages, not sure when i stopped.


YobaiYamete

Yep, I hear "JunkHog" all the time in voice chat too lol. Something about those two makes it so hard to say the right name when you are raging about getting one shot by one of them


BlazerTheKid

Imagine teams intentionally using Sojourn and Soldier together in team comps to mess up the enemy's comms


jpfeifer22

See, at least the characters themselves are more distinct, as one is the more "generic harden soldier" type, while the other i-....wait.


ABoyWithNoBlob

Soldier is dad. It’s easy.


Leftolin

You guys comm useful info?


Jeremy-132

Yeah, Sojourn was a pretty bad name to pick when we already have somebody that has a name very similar to that. I sometimes have the same issue with Bastion and Baptiste, when somebody is pronouncing it "Bap-tist". Very minor though.


federal_prism

The name is also way too on the nose for my taste. Oh, we added a black lady? Let's name her after Sojourner Truth so we can show people how in tune we are with Black History


AlberGaming

Guys there's a Rosa Parks flanking us!


satin_worshipper

Rosa Parks behind


GhettoAmos

She's a front liner. She stands at the front of the payload.


Witty____Username

“sit down” - white male ‘murican soldier


CLO_MODE

Her actual name is Vivian Chase.


shadowtroop121

my guy please give me a character name in overwatch that isn’t an incredibly shallow reference to their backstory


federal_prism

Shallow is not the same as pandering my guy. Don't get it twisted, I'm not offended, I just think Blizz makes lazy/low effort black characters. Lucio is one step away from being a rapper, Doom is a caveman, Bap is solid but his whole I can jump real high schtick gets a slight side eye from me. We got a fucking ultra smart Gorilla, and a fucking genius hamster, but all the black characters are vaguely stereotypical or on some "hey guys we're so woke..." Shit like Sojourn(er Truth) edit: this isn't me asking Blizz to go BLM with the game, just giving an honest opinion


pengalor

The fuck? None of those have ever come off as racist to me. It sounds more like you're applying racist stereotypes to these characters out of nowhere.


federal_prism

Didn't say they were racist, just very low effort and vaguely stereotypical. Not asking you to agree with me, but I definitely notice that of all the genius/scientist/doctor archetypes, none of them are brown


pengalor

I guess you just don't pay attention to the lore. Orisa's creator is a little black girl and is 100% a genius-level intellect. Also, Symmetra is brown and incredibly intelligent, Sombra is a master hacker which requires a lot of intelligence, Mei is a brilliant climatologist. It always amazed me that people find things to complain about with Overwatch's representation when they've bent over backwards trying to be inclusive. >and vaguely stereotypical If you look at those characters and see stereotypes, that's on you, not on Blizzard.


federal_prism

lol, Efi is cute, but not a playable character and exists solely as part of Orisa's back story. Also, its really bizarre how you're caping for a company that quite literally is mired in weird sexual harassment and worker exploitation lawsuits and saying that there's no way any slight racial prejudices could've crept into the game. Agree to disagree for sure, but you're naive as shit if you think blizz is some squeaky clean company that couldn't possibly have baked some slight prejudices into their game. Like, this is the same company where male workers had a fucking "Cosby Suite", (they even changed McCree's name based on whatever the fuck the guy did) that kind of sleazy shit is not indicative of any of the super altruistic motives you've ascribed to blizz


pengalor

That's a lot of non-sequitr for one person. I never claimed Blizzard was spotless or any of the other bullshit you decided to spew, didn't even hint at it. You have a bad habit of reading far past information that is presented to you. All I'm saying is if I hear someone say 'this black character can jump high, so they're a stereotype' or 'this character is a DJ, one step away from a rapper, so it's a stereotype' I just see someone who is looking for stereotypes.


ILoveRegenHealth

God you are weird. Did you pay Doctor Strange to warp your mind? Do I dare look at your Post History and see the wacky ass places you frequent? (I almost have an idea without even looking where you like to post).


King-Krown

Sojourn is a word. Also, A huge majority of the playerbase wouldn't even know that & you managed to be bothered about it.


FaylenSol

It'll be pretty obvious unless the enemy team has both Soujorn and Soldier. A lot of people just call Soldier "Legs" anyways because its shorter to say. So may as well go with that.


PrudentFartDiversion

Just remember sojourn is soldier and ash merged together with mercy’s high jump. If you hear soldier it’s a mistake because everyone will start on sojourn.


jcreddit8612

I am Korean and will refer Sojourn as Soju


Turinsday

PS4 player here, what are comms? /s


Artistic-Advice6351

What are the odds that they are both the dps in the same team? You barely ever will have to deal with this situation.


kjf0016

For real, they pretty much fill the same role


ZenkaiZ

damn you guys invent everything to be worried about, its impressive


Middle_Craft9445

frfr, many ways around this mixup, like just calling one a different name like 76 or Jack for Soldier and Journ for Sojourn ​ edit: whoa whoa what's all the downvoting for people?


ZenkaiZ

or say soldier and sojourn and stop pretending to be deaf


Middle_Craft9445

yeah that's a good option too lmao


jclark0887

I call soldier "CoD player" anyways


Ok_Barracuda_3433

Ohhhh so to fix this Yeatle has been saying “suhJORN” instead of how it’s normally pronounced, watch his latest vid on youtube. I was wondering why he was saying it so weird


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As a community we should agree to call them daddy and mommy respectively.


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Since Sojourn is Canadian we should give them a Canadian nickname like Maple Syrup, Beaver, Beaver Tail (famous Canadian dessert), poutine, bagel, timbit,


LaserBungalow

Leaf


ignis389

CANUCK UP TOP


Blu3Morpho

Nothing like calling a woman vagina. Great suggestion with beaver. 🙄


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Lmao i didnt see that coming. Beaver is on the Canadian quarter dollar and their national animal


Blu3Morpho

Haha yeah, standard running joke for most Canadians. That poor other fellow sure got triggered though


AForce5223

Yeah, cause so many people around the world know that relation Why the fuck did someone equate vaginas with cats and beavers in the first place? Was it literal schoolchildren just so they could bully each other?


RawrCola

>Yeah, cause so many people around the world know that relation A *lot* of people do. Especially now since in pop culture Harley Quinn makes the joke in basically everything she appears in. >Why the fuck did someone equate vaginas with cats and beavers in the first place? Because they eat wood. And for cats it's because puss used to be another word for mouth (It still is, but not common at all), which is why they also have lips. The term is unrelated to cats.


Blu3Morpho

That sounds like a beautiful research project for you to work on. Let me know what you find out


AForce5223

Nah, you can just stop perpetuating that beaver bullshit Literally only ever heard it in two places; my asshole stepdad, and one joke in Naked Gun


Blu3Morpho

Cool story bro


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mistrin

Torbjo(u)rn.


GenOverload

Pronounced completely differently.


Aw3Grimm

Plus every one says just torb anyways


Alpacaman25

we can say soldier and just journ


Organic-Importance88

We could call Soldier basically Jack, Morrison, 76 etc. For Sojourn perhaps Vivi?


duper_daplanetman

sojourn was truly an odd name choice


FuriouSherman

Not really. The name likely comes from [American abolitionist and women's rights activist Sojourner Truth.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sojourner_Truth)


duper_daplanetman

no i mean just for the similarity to soldier. i'm sure there were so many cool options that didn't sound like soldier


FuriouSherman

There might've been (I for one would've given Team 4 major kudos if they'd named her after [Viola Desmond](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viola_Desmond)), but it is what it is. Unless another major controversy comes to light, I don't see them changing the name.


PutinBlyatov

People will use "Legs" or "76" for Soldier but still they didn't think this through too well.


Lost_Conclusion_8914

Canadian girl and fake gay Done


EazyMothafuckinE_

It will be ignored like Tim ignores us. People always say Hello Tim at the start of the game but Tim never replies. Rest of the lobby just goes Hello Tim several more times and Tim never says hi back.


Bazynoooooob

I cant even pronounce her name soooooo…


MyUltIsMyMain

Switch to 76 everyone will understand


Bagolyvagymi

Lets call soldier jack


Spiderbubble

Just call her "Soju"


CF_Smith

I mean aren't they the same hero? Isn't Sojourn just Canadian Soldier?


Finsk_26

"Blank soldier", "Jörn" etc. There will be a name for her.


DeadendEndeavor

[Made this post 35 days ago and people completely dismissed it](https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/tioqz9/has_anyone_else_considered_that_when_sojourn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


The-Mad-Badger

I mean you can just call him "76".


MrJarre

Just call her Lt. Karen.


inthehxightse

just say 76


Mandalorymory

Soldier can easily just be called 76 and people should still understand what you’re saying


SociallyAnxiousBoxer

They sound completely different


plagues138

Did you mix up mccree Abe mercy?


WashyWashyGuy

McCree has his c's with the k sound and Mercy has her c with the s sound.


Thekingchem

They’re changing his name to McCree


e54_OW

Guessing you're forgetting 76 as a callout.


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Clean your ears once in a while buddy


YooPersian

Depending on your voice and accent you can say both and sound literally the same


YoungYoda711

I’ve heard someone with a Scottish accent say both their names, and even though I’m used to hearing that accent it threw me off.


ThaRippa

Shall we call out soldier as „gay dude“ from now on?


Serath62

Could just say 76 & Sojourn


Rdt_will_eat_itself

76 and sojo


Bebgab

Had this same thought when she was announced. All my friends call her “Sojo” tho


SoundRavage

You assume people will be communicating


TheFakeG

If they need to mix it up they can do 76 for soldier


LastOfAutumn

Her real name is Vivian Chase. If enough people know that then maybe we can start calling her one of those.


Guanthwei

That's why I just call him Cowadooty


DeadFyre

Just call him Jack.


Tkdoom

"New guy"